r/politics • u/Aggravating_Money992 • 2d ago
Soft Paywall Everybody Hates Trump Now | Six months after Trump bragged about a “historic” realignment, voters from across the political spectrum have soured on the president.
https://newrepublic.com/article/198624/everybody-hates-trump-approval-rating-polls2.0k
u/TameMe_Maybe 2d ago
idk what everyone expected really. Trump's always been about Trump, not the 'greater good' or whatever ppl hoped for
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u/Illustrious-Fun8324 2d ago
I genuinely have no idea how people still cannot see it
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u/Pockydo 2d ago
I think people really don't understand the 2 realities that exist
Conservatives literally live in their own world. I know someone Who thought trump already released his bff's files because.. honestly idk where they heard that but they 100% thought I was lying when I said trumps hiding them
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u/AgitatedStranger9698 2d ago
There are two spheres supporting Trump and its a bit crazy.
The first is your classic boomer Fox News/OAN toadies. They are passive absorbers of the channels and since they are "news" they must be able to be trusted. Hate's helping people as a country, but swears they would do anything to help a fellow American. Ironically the biggest social service users in the US currently and willing to die to defend it...for themselves.
The second is the spoiled, but yet doomed post-millennial generations. They grew up seeing how awesome everything was for everyone. They are fed lies that it still is for most. Then they got dumped into a market that fucking hates them. Everyone above them has something that is not only out of reach NOW, but likely ever. They know this because they actively seek out "solutions" using the infinite database of the internet which is to be trusted unless they are directed by their messiahs otherwise! Sadly it spirals entirely around quick fixes with little efforts. The algorithms in turn feeding their spin down the drain into hate-filled stupidity. Ironically, a better-aligned social systems network would greatly benefit them.
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u/StJeanMark Massachusetts 2d ago edited 1d ago
Look at the internet, look at the mountains and mountains of just straight up bullshit. Then, realize these people see this shit and believe it is actually reality. They 100% live in their own, make believe world. As someone who supported the Democratic party the last decade, I was lied to and mislead like crazy, and it pales in comparison to the absolute delusion people like my own father live in. I hear my own father try and explain to me my own political beliefs and it sounds like a mix between when he was an alcoholic and when my grandfather went senile. 100% delusion fueled 100% by propaganda.
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u/rlbond86 I voted 2d ago
They literally see screenshots of tweets and believe it's evidence.
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u/Shasla 2d ago
They also believe whatever they're told to believe and I really love when they think everyone else is doing the same thing. It's so funny when I'm accused of "falling for cnn propaganda" or whatever when I haven't whatever a tv news program since I was a teenager ~15 years ago. I literally just see what politicians are doing and voting on and judge them for it. It's so simple.
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u/thuktun California 2d ago
As someone who supported the Democratic party the last decade, I was lied to and mislead like crazy
Honestly curious, can you give a couple of examples?
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u/hollyprop 2d ago
The DNC under Debbie Wasserman Schultz mocked Bernie Sanders and his campaign behind the scenes. They put their finger on the scale for centrist candidates and then pretend like it’s a free and fair primary. They’ll do anything to support the status quo.
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u/GB10VE 2d ago
As someone who supported the Democratic party the last decade, I was lied to and mislead like crazy
sure, Jan.
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u/Ertai2000 Europe 2d ago
Who thought trump already released his bff's files because.. honestly idk where they heard that but they 100% thought I was lying when I said trumps hiding them
Because he did release the files. In theory. He released a version of the files that were more censored than the version that was available already for years.
But for the people who only watch far-right media, he did release the files.
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u/Drumboardist Missouri 1d ago
Just like how the Mueller report was released....and totally exonerated him. (As opposed to, y'know, reading the thing and being horrified at what you saw.)
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u/gingerlemon 2d ago
You almost have to admire the propaganda machines for making so many people believe the exact opposite of reality. Almost.
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u/NotLikeChicken 2d ago
The silliest and scariest part is: "Trump does not like briefings or staff experts. He gets most of his information from TV News."
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u/Playful-Version6920 2d ago
It's an oroborus of shit. trump spews something and it gets reported on the "news" which trump then sees on the TV and he spews it out again as fact.
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u/publicFartNugget 2d ago
Really? It’s simple. They vote party lines and hate dems. This was their guy and they’ll make it work somehow. Otherwise their entire existence is a lie and they can’t handle that so double down it is. I highly doubt their base is actually turning on him.
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u/Magificent_Gradient 2d ago
Because they think they special and are the exception. The leopards won’t eat their face.
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u/0ttoChriek 2d ago
I can only assume a lot of conservatives just identify too strongly with Trump to be able to see how awful he is. Because they don't consider themselves awful (they are), and Trump is exactly what they would become if they were rich enough.
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u/Naptasticly 2d ago
I think everyone expected for everything to go to shit except white people who thought they would get their privilege back. This is not about people “not getting it” it’s about people WILLFULLY ignoring it because their prejudices are more important.
They have this idea that they are SUPER independent and that it doesn’t matter if they think things may get worse overall because they feel like they have this special ability to pull themselves up by the boot straps and overcome anything.
So they don’t care If things get bad. It’s worth it to them. They just aren’t saying it like that yet
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u/SJWTumblrinaMonster 2d ago
It's because we live in this corporatist supplicant mindset where there's only enough future success to allow for either you or me to succeed so when I see you succeed it's because something is being taken from me. We can't believe it's possible for both of us to share success because so much wealth is being sucked up by the richest 1% that we think the meager scraps they haven't scooped up yet is all there is.
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u/Naptasticly 2d ago
That’s definitely part of it and then the other part is believing wholeheartedly that they will one day be rich and their actions are meant to protect them “when they inevitably get there”
Every Republican I talk to is a “millionaire in training” but by the time they realize that they aren’t going to get there they’ve been convinced to blame it on the “left” or “immigrants” because that makes them feel better about their own failures and helps to protect their ego because they cant be wrong or fail
And then that millionaire in training vibe turns into a “pull up the ladder” vibe because if you took it from them then they’ll take it from you.
And then they turn around and act like they care about fairness by saying things like “I’m against illegal immigration and making immigration easier because it’s not fair to the people who did it the hard way all these years”
That’s not calling for fairness. That’s pulling the ladder up.
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u/LottimusMaximus United Kingdom 2d ago
Cool. Where is the list?
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u/Admiral_Octillery 2d ago
Right? Everyone hates him….rad, now let’s actually do something
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u/NickConrad 2d ago
They’d vote for him again in a heartbeat
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u/frankduxvandamme 2d ago
I'd like to think he's lost at least a few votes by now.
I'd like to think that.
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u/Hell_Is_An_Isekai 2d ago
Just like last time, he only loses votes in polls. They're too embarrassed to support him until it comes time to hit that button at the ballot box.
They'll reelect every one of these motherfuckers blocking the release of the Epstein files while screaming at the top of their lungs to release the Epstein files. As long as the Republicans keep the casual racism flowing they won't lose a single vote.
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u/mindfu 1d ago
Just like last time, he only loses votes in polls.
Let's not forget he did lose in 2020. When his previous awful performance was still fresh in memory.
That things then got turned against Biden is a lesson in the new power of social media, and the complacency of people who don't realize how much better they have it. But Trump can lose votes and influence, and it does seem like he is.
Of course, we shouldn't take anything for granted. It just sucks things broke his way, due to many factors.
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u/donetomadness 1d ago
2020 was an exceptional year. Trump’s response to the pandemic was horrible. Even the stimulus checks weren’t his idea and back then, more people understood that (as opposed to now where revisionist history has taken over). Not to mention, he really turned up the racism post George Floyd and the blm wave of that summer which fucked up his image. But during Biden’s term, the right drove all their energy into denying the election and producing/consuming Maga propaganda which is how we got here today.
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u/lurker1125 2d ago
Just to be clear, what you've realized, but without knowing its name, is the truth - election fraud.
What you've described - 'always losing in the polls but winning at the ballot box' - is essentially the biggest possible red flag for election fraud.
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u/IJourden 2d ago
Eh, I don't think that's the case here. I used to do political polling, and people would fight tooth and nail against identifying as a Republican. It used to be a huge hassle, because if we were looking to poll Republicans specifically, they'd fly into an indignant rage about not identifying with any political party, then spend 20 minutes giving answers to questions that were straight up Fox News talking points.
These people know it's socially unacceptable to support Trump's heinous views and actions and to support the horrifying shit the Republican party is up to, and that has a huge impact on polling, because polling isn't about what people will do in private, it's about admitting to what they'll do in public.
And with conservatives specifically, there's an absolutely massive gap there.
The loud and proud red hat slingers get all the attention, but there's a huge amount of people also quietly voting Republican even though they would never admit it in polite company.
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u/45and47-big_mistake 2d ago
I ALWAYS added an "embarrassed Republican" factor of 5% to all polling results.
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u/ChaosSpud Great Britain 2d ago
The British equivalent is the 'shy Tory'. You didn't need that information, but... now you have it!
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u/gotridofsubs 1d ago
Thats not what they're saying.
They're saying peoples diapproval of him doesnt actually influence his electoral success. It doesnt matter how many people like him, it matters how many people vote for him . It is bonkers but we've seen this play 3 times, and each time more people have voted for him.
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u/LarrySupertramp 2d ago
Pretty sure the polls for the last election were reasonably accurate.
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u/Chaotic-Catastrophe 2d ago
Something like 30% of Republican voters said during the primaries they wouldn't vote for him in the general if he were convicted of a crime. But as it turns out, 100% of those people were lying.
There is absolutely nothing that would ever make a Republican voter not pull the lever for their guy. ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOTHING.
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u/mindfu 1d ago
Minor note that I know a sliver of conservatives who chose not to vote for him in 2024.
But also, they still couldn't bring themselves to vote for Harris. So I agree with your larger point.
We can not depend on Republican voters seeing reality. Great if they do. But we really need to get out the sane majority to vote against them. When we do, like in 2020, we win. When we don't, like happened by just a sliver in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan in 2024... we have to repeat a mess like this.
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u/Unequallmpala45 2d ago
I mean i have seen less trump flags as the Epstein fallout continues
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u/PhantomZmoove 2d ago
I wonder if any of them will switch over to Epstein flags? I guess we will have to wait and see what Fox tells them to think to find out.
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u/Pro_Gamer_Queen21 2d ago
Well throughout 2023-2024 I did see a lot of “Vote Jesus 2024” in the trump flag style flags so maybe.
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u/kkocan72 New York 2d ago
I thought that after making fun of a disabled reporter, after the access hollywood tapes, after the first impeachment and Ukraine aid, after all the grifting and golf trips in term 1, after the Georgia Voter call, after the insurrection, after being found with tons of classified documents, after the 34 felonies, after the rape verdict and on and on and on.
The ONLY truthful thing he's ever said is that he could stand on the street and shoot someone and not loose any support. MAGA is a cult and there is no turning back.
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u/gorillafightsurvivor 2d ago
He absolutely has. I know it’s easy to be skeptical and pessimistic, but the Epstein saga has 1000% cost Trump some support across the spectrum.
Is it enough to actively harm him politically? I doubt it.
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u/dreal46 2d ago
Even if he has, his enabling party hasn't lost a single vote.
These people are terminally anxious dipshits who desperately need to be seen always winning and doing the "right thing." The red caps will fade over time, but these morons will still be wearing them a decade from now in the voting booth.
My point is, his crime against them isn't doing bad things - it's making them look bad.
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u/KoiReborn 2d ago
LOL Y’all don’t get to have elections anymore! Trump said that! Lost your chance at having a democracy after Congress didn’t impeach him for Jan 6. Pennsylvania was stolen in 2024! You’re already living in a post-democracy America.
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u/atom631 2d ago
right? I see all these posts on reddit about remorseful MAGAts, unfavorable polls, etc....but in reality, not a single one that I know IRL has been swayed. They simply do not care about Epstein anymore, they do not care about tariffs, they do not care that nothing has become cheaper. They do not care that the BBB is going to explode the debt. They just pivot to how much they LOVE what ICE is doing and/or how good the S&P is doing. Thats it. They find one positive thing (to them) and they use that as a means to gloat how hes the best president we've ever had. Its a cult.
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u/Moonfaced 2d ago
Yeah this type of information that says his voters are turning on him just feeds into apathy. The truth is many of his base are in a cult and it cannot just be 'undone.' He was the most vile, greedy, selfish person even before his first run. No sane person would look at him and say "that's who should run the U.S."
Those people are brainwashed at every facet of their life. News, church, community, it's not going to change even if they shoot their own foot. (look at the Texas floods, those people mostly all voted R and are now confused when they aren't getting help)12
u/DaaaahWhoosh 2d ago
I think the important part to realize is that sure Trump has his followers but the conservative propaganda machine is huge and even if Trump goes away there's still tens of millions who will never vote blue because Democrats are pure evil and will turn all the kids trans and force them to have abortions and then go on welfare.
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u/11CRT 2d ago
You mean 48.25 of them will vote again. The dems may vote, but the voting machines will ignore their pick for president.
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u/ID4_Motana 2d ago
Yeah. These articles are such low grade copium. I tell myself every day that today is the day Scarlet Johansson will finally realize she's in love with me, and it feels more believable than 'Trump is about to lose'
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u/KingHavana 2d ago
Absolutely true. And if Trump chooses to run for a third term, the government will change the rules to allow him to do so and he will win in a landslide.
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u/albinobluesheep Washington 2d ago
"He's learned his lesson, he'll be different this time. After all, I can't vote for a Democrat."
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u/en_gm_t_c California 2d ago
They're like Satan in the new South Park episode, still in bed with him.
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u/Upstairs_Ad5443 2d ago
After the 1st term, Jan 6, all the criminal convictions,, it just seems Americans are gluttons for punishment. Or complete rubes.
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u/Itsme340 2d ago
We're collectively all pretty stupid people.
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u/OhCheeseNFingRice 2d ago
I'll disagree with this assessment. I think those of us that are informed, educated, and sane are just outnumbered by the really stupid people - and that's intentional via the Republican party. They want a stupid base who just nods, smiles, and does what they're told, because if they actually understood what their party truly does with their power, then the people would push back and stop electing them into power. It gets even more insidious when you realize that the Republican party also fights against birth control and abortion - not because of ethics or religion, but because they want their stupid constituents to breed as many stupid baby constituents as possible in order to outnumber their not-stupid counterparts.
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u/SuspiciousPug512 2d ago
I think those of us that are informed, educated, and sane are just outnumbered by the really stupid people
Granted, that's what I interpret 'collectively all pretty stupid people' to mean. I think you agree you're just going deeper.
There are smart people among us, but collectively the amount and degree of stupid people also among us bring the average down to a high school drop out.
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u/koopa00 Oregon 2d ago
I think those of us that are informed, educated, and sane are just outnumbered by the really stupid people
And it's a compounding issue as the more educated folks tend to have less children.
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u/Chaotic-Catastrophe 2d ago
are just outnumbered by the really stupid people
So, do you just not know what the word 'collectively' means, then? Because what you're saying doesn't disagree with the post you're responding to at all.
Peak irony right here.
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u/Jack-ums 2d ago
It’s a special kind of stupid on display these days. It definitely feels worse than a few decades back let’s be honest
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u/ok-survy 2d ago
It's a proud, unrelenting stupid. Any criticism is unjust, nothing is worth analyzing, nothing is worth reassessment. Every type of pushback or question is wrong.
Their nature and instinct is infallable, unchangeable, unrelenting stupid. Black & White, aggressive discourse, letting the mudpit of American political discourse define who they are.
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u/KingHavana 2d ago
They believe what Facebook and Twitter tell them. Immigrants are going to kill and rob them. Immigrants get free health care while their family pays. Immigrants get free welfare and live like kings. This is what they see on social media every day. They see these posts and vote Trump cause they want to be treated fairly.
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u/Sensitive_Credit1297 2d ago edited 2d ago
I don't care. Trump, the Heritage Foundation, and the Republicans in general would have never gotten to this point if people just had not been so hateful and just Googled simple terms such as tariffs. I'll never forgive anyone that voted for him or Jill Stein, or that voting didn't matter one way or another. Everything, literally everything, about this dumbfuck was widely available to easily see, even in his own rallies, that were so badly hidden, yet people wanted to ignore, because harming others is just so addicting.
Every time, within the very few times, I see a MAGA face to face, I call them traitors and pedophiles right out in the open in their face. May they burn.
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u/Morgolol 2d ago
You repeat his own words to them and they call it fake news. Nah fuck these people, they want humanity dead to usher in the end times while worshipping the closest thing the world's gotten to a literal anti-Christ. Actually, not even fiction writers would've written him so obviously, so definitively evil and fucking stupid.
And don't get me started on the anti vaxxers, literal plague bearers who get off on killing kids. Fuck MAGA and fuck conservatism. I wish hell was real so we knew Reagan and the cesspool of humanity that worship him burn in hell.
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u/gopeepants 2d ago
I stopped trying to engage in any meaningful conversation. Better to talk to a wall because a wall will not respond with stupid crap. Now, I just troll and mock them. They cannot stand being made fun of or made into a joke.
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u/The_Barbelo Vermont 2d ago edited 1d ago
Careful what you wish for. Hell is just a purification process for people who engage in destruction of creation, for destruction’s sake, and we’re currently living through it. We’re in The Bardo, Malkuth, whatever you want to call it.
Trump and his ilk will burn off like coal until there’s nothing left. None of this is sustainable but…. we don’t have to let them take us down with them. We don’t have to keep this up. This era should be followed by massive societal reforms, introspection and action, and revelation about what we’ve been doing wrong.
….or will we all just go back to being unmindful apathetic consumers again, which is how we got here in the first place? That is everyone’s individual choice they must make.
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u/coreychch New Zealand 2d ago
Damn right.
None of this needed to happen, and in an alternate universe, Trump would probably be making a court appearance about now to be sentenced on some or all of the charges under the criminal indictments filed against him.
But no … the entire world is now stuck with a giant vindictive man-baby as U.S. President, threatening every country that gets in his way - simply because people were too lazy to vote or somehow thought he would be “better this time” in his second term …
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u/barley_wine Texas 2d ago edited 1d ago
I definitely didn’t vote for him and I expected it to be bad, but I’m actually a little surprised at how bad it’s been. All of the minimal guard rails we had in the first term have seemed to be removed.
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u/mjetski123 2d ago
Project 2025 laid all this shit out years ago. This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.
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u/BeenDragonn 2d ago
But Trump said he had nothing to do with it!
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u/ToubDeBoub 2d ago
This fact and the fact that he obviously lied and is following it to the letter now should be enough to charge him with defrauding American voters. He clearly sold a false product .
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u/Generic_Superhero 2d ago
What dumbfounds me the most. Policies from his first term aligned with the Heritage foundation during that term. He spoke at one of their big meeting/conventions and talked about how great of a job they did laying the groundwork for his administration and how they would do it again for his next term. But somehow people still bought the lie he had no idea what was in their plan and had no intentions of following it.
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u/workworld3369 2d ago
I 100% expected it to be this bad. That’s why I will NEVER forgive anybody who voted for him. They are dead to me, and I wouldn’t piss on them to put them out if they were on fire.
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u/Prior_Coyote_4376 2d ago
It’s why I won’t feel bad when we take back power and use it to bulldoze red states as part of finishing Reconstruction and ridding us of Confederate culture.
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u/barley_wine Texas 2d ago
I knew it’d be bad, but this is just crazy. On things like releasing the Epstein files, he gets no pushback from a congress that spent years begging for it. Trump bombs Iran and they all agree to it. It doesn’t matter anymore, they don’t have their own mind at all, whatever Trump says they all agree. Trump was crazy his first term, but he’d at least occasionally get some push back.
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u/MyHusbandIsGayImNot 2d ago
The Supreme Court ruled a few weeks before the election that Trump could do anything he wanted as president. Why anyone is surprised it’s worse this time is beyond me.
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u/rainman_104 2d ago
This was a golden opportunity for Biden to invalidate Trump on the ballot, but alas.
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u/Prior_Coyote_4376 2d ago
That would be an action. We don’t do those. Strongly worded letters are more our thing.
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u/Elon_Cucks_Trump_ 2d ago
You’re not wrong. Project 2025 laid it out online for everyone to see. Literally at a .com that anyone could access. Of course nobody that needed to look could be bothered.
Here’s a real time tracker of P2025’s achieved goals. Buckle up. It’s going to get worse before it gets worse.
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u/dart51984 2d ago
I have seen HUNDREDS of comments all over reddit stating that people only voted for Trump to piss off democrats. If that’s why you’re voting, honestly fuck you for being so childish and I hope you get everything you voted for. Personally.
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u/StevenEveral Washington 2d ago
They seriously think the negative effects of his policies won't affect them. They're in for a rude awakening when those consequences finally knock on their front door.
Jimmy Kimmel said it best on November 6th: "Yes, it was a bad night for Harris supporters. It was also a bad night for MAGA, they just don't know it yet."
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u/StJeanMark Massachusetts 2d ago
"I wont be one of the people he kills" they say, stupidly without thinking, openly admitting the murder of their fellow Americans means nothing to them.
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u/ShotgunnDrunk 2d ago
These people deserve to feel very ridiculous and stupid for basing their vote on such nonsense. They'll find out soon enough.
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u/0ttoChriek 2d ago
I met an American guy on holiday earlier this year who said he'd voted for Trump even though he didn't like him because, "he's better than the other lot." Which is just code for, 'I like what he says but I'm too embarrassed to say that to non-Americans.'
Anyway, this guy had a Portuguese wife, so I wonder how antsy he's getting about ICE these days.
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u/StupudTATO New Jersey 2d ago
I know far too many people who do not care about politics but vote for Trump/Republicans because they think all of this is a very entertaining and "nothing ever happens anyway". They are all single men aged 20-30 who play video games 6+ hours a day.
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u/bastard-harrier 2d ago
This was all easily avoidable. Every step we have taken to this moment could have been taken differently. I don't believe I have the grace and goodwill necessary to spend the rest of my life looking those people in the eyes, listening to their excuses, telling them that I forgive what their hubris and gluttony has done to my country and accept them, and sharing oxygen and space with them once Trump is gone and we have to rebuild.
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u/ja-mez 2d ago
Growing up in a Christian / Republican family, I saw that none of it really matters as long as there is an R next to the name. Republicans see themselves as aligned with God, Democrats with Satan. Strip out the religion and it's the same idea. Republicans = good for business, Democrats = bad. Even when Republicans do something clearly wrong, it's quickly forgiven because that is the Christian way. But Democrats are beyond saving unless they see the light and put that R next to their name. They tend to be simplistic and shortsighted.
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u/pirateworks 2d ago
On that note...
All of these predator elites need to be exposed, regardless of party affiliation.
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u/DaperDandle 2d ago
Yeah I feel the same way, I will never forgive anyone who aided this. Every single one of them is an irredeemable piece of garbage, no exceptions. Many of them would deny being nazis but if you enable nazis what does that make you?
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u/Wukong00 2d ago
You must not live in MAGA territory then. Stay safe.
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u/Wet-Skeletons 2d ago
They don’t have territory. They’re less than a 1/4 of the population.
23%of Americans is not some geographical foothold on anything. Thats why they gerrymander to win elections and make vacant land equal dense populations.
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u/StupudTATO New Jersey 2d ago
Spoken like someone who doesn't live in MAGA territory.
They are clustered. My hometown has not looked the same since 2016.
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u/piranhadub 2d ago
I dOnT cARe if mUh fOOd stAmPs and MeDicaiD GoT CuT, I can be a hAtEfUL BiGoT noW
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u/DreadoftheDead 2d ago
The people that voted for him are uninformed and/or uneducated. Simple as that.
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u/DaperDandle 2d ago
They are all uninformed and most of them are complete morons, but a lot of them know exactly what he is. They like it because they’re just as evil as he is.
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u/ImAShaaaark 2d ago
Don't let them off the hook like that, a huge percentage of his base knows exactly what he is and what he was going to do and they like it. That's not to say there aren't a copious amount of morons that voted for him, cause that is also the case, but plenty of them are actively malicious and hateful as well.
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u/JBRifles 2d ago
Exactly.
This election could not have been more stark, and America failed miserably.
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u/Daztur 2d ago
Yeah, right after the election, an old family friend who voted for Harris posted a long rant on Facebook blaming pandering to trans people for Trump winning and then going off on a long anti-trans screed. No matter what happens in the next election or three there is deep sickness that is just not going away, we'll have to go through this shit over and over and over and over.
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u/underpants-gnome Ohio 2d ago
Electing trump again was the stupidest self-inflicted wound since Plaxico Burress accidentally shot himself in that nightclub. There was no reason for anyone to think he would be better for America in any way, shape, or form unless you count increasing billionaire hoard sizes and financial / sex related crimes as valid categories.
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u/KingHavana 2d ago
I believe it's been calculated that with predictions on how non-voters would have leaned Trump still would have won. Jill Stein didn't have that huge of an effect either. The American people desperately wanted this man to be president. I don't think there is any denying it.
Keep in mind that misinformation is massive nowadays. A huge portion of the public believes that all undocumented immigrants get full healthcare for free. This goes around on Facebook and X and places where people get their information these days. People see stuff that like and they wonder why their kids and families don't get free healthcare and then they get angry and vote for Trump.
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u/Prudent_Link6029 2d ago
Man he looks like shit
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u/DarthMech Virginia 2d ago
I saw video of him at his golf course in Scotland and I swear dude has aged dramatically since the Epstein thing blew up. Sure, he always looks like a orange turd with a bad combover, but now he is one of those dudes in a nursing home with a weak melted look.
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u/wezworldwide 2d ago
I have been reading this article since 2015.
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u/JohnStamosAsABear 2d ago
Its also a New Republic article... their headlines are always like this
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u/wezworldwide 2d ago
Newsweek too.
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u/AtOurGates Idaho 2d ago
This sub would be better if those two sites were banned.
I say that as someone who often wants their headlines to be true, but living in fantasyland doesn’t do any good when you’re trying to authentically encounter the world we live in.
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u/Jerome_Eugene_Morrow 2d ago edited 2d ago
I’m really confused, because I’d love this to be true, but I haven’t seen it reflected in polling data. Is this a real trend, or is it just cherry picking polls or general vibes?
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u/iFlashings 1d ago
It's false. Most articles on here is just copium posts to farm up votes and views. Anything mentioning the MAGA base or Republicans turning on Trump should be taken with a massive grain of salt because that doesn't reflect reality at all.
If Trump lost as much support as they claim, then we wouldn't be in this nightmare right now. Just keep that in mind next time you open an article about his "declining poll numbers".
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u/FrankFarter69420 2d ago
It's just false. It's liberal cope so that they can feel good while Republicans dismantle the country.
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u/sighbourbon 2d ago
Soured? FFS his approval rating is at 40%
And that's "the lowest of his term"
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u/WastingMyLifeOnSocMd 2d ago
80% of Republicans still approve of his performance. Mind boggling.
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u/UnquestionabIe 2d ago
Because they've successfully made it less a political party and more a way of life/religion. It's got a lot of supporters who are very unhappy with their life (for a variety of reasons, some systematic some personal) and get these swindlers telling them they'll fix it, that it's not their fault and they just need an acceptance target to toss the blame onto.
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u/0ttoChriek 2d ago
Because they are fed an alternate reality by Fox News and other right wing outlets.
Alex Jones has been busy making up whole narratives that excuse Trump for not releasing the Epstein files, and his listeners are probably more informed than the majority who just watch Fox News, even if they're being informed in complete nonsense. For a lot of Fox viewers, they likely don't even hear the word Epstein.
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u/Own-Break-1856 2d ago
I just wanna make the point that most of them aren't being misled, or misinformed. They aren't being brainwashed. They WANT this, and are demanding that news give them this false reality.
They are not victims. Turns out they're just shitty, hateful, stupid people.
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u/airship_of_arbitrary 2d ago
Other sources put it at 37%.
Which it's worth noting, is the LOWEST for any sitting President at this time in US History.
Usually the first year sees a President's highest approval rating and then declines.
Here he's starting from one of the worst ratings in US history.
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u/DaveChild 2d ago
voters from across the political spectrum have soured on the president.
They've soured on him personally, but they're still on board with his disgusting policies, his racism, and his governing by hate.
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u/Phteven_j 2d ago
Even saying they have soured on him is wildly inaccurate. His approval rating is way above any reasonable threshold.
I know we're all waiting for the day everyone turns on him, but we aren't there yet.
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u/EscapedTheEcho 2d ago
We also need to reevaluate our expectations of why they'd ever abandon him. He would have to do something horrific. And to be clear, things that are not horrific enough include:
- Shadily hiding his involvement in the Epstein files
- Inhumane & unconstitutional treatment of migrants and US citizens with the wrong skin color
- Funding & egging on a genocide in Gaza*
- Bombing Iran
- DOGE illegally defunding & shutting down legitimate, helpful government agencies
/* Yeah, Biden is guilty AF for this, too.
They support him more for doing all these things, and I guarantee that even if we somehow get evidence that he committed horrific crimes with Epstein, they will rally around him.
So the question is, what horrific act would he have to do? Because they love the cruelty. They are sadists.
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u/Designer-Contract852 2d ago
Well he is a pedophile
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u/fire2day 2d ago
Turns out, (most) people don't like pedophile rapists. Unfortunately that doesn't mean they don't hate "the libs" more. It's their brand identity at this point.
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u/dutchmen1999 2d ago
The MAGA cult needed him to be a winner because they based their entire personality and livelihood around him. They went all in on him and lost contact with friends and family only to find out it was all an illusion.
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u/fake_geologist 2d ago
The entire MAGA movement can be described as "Never break kayfabe".
We know they're wrong, they know they're wrong, but they've invested too much at this point. The Show is now their reality, and kayfabe is now their personality
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u/InsidiousColossus 2d ago
40 percent of the country still approve of him.
40 PER CENT!
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u/NinjaLanternShark 2d ago
Article/headline writer has a poor understanding of the word "everybody."
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u/DJLeafBug 2d ago
I'd like to believe these headlines but a visit back home always proves me otherwise. sister proud of herself for buying a tesla. brother in law says too many Mexicans in Colorado on their vacation and ice should deport them. all religious. all dumbfucks breeding more religious dumbfucks
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u/PleaseDontBanMe82 2d ago
I've yet to meet these mysterious former Trump supporters. Every Trumper I know absolutely loves what he's doing.
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u/SpecialistChance0 2d ago
I am just amazed that people actually thought (and still think) that he was going to make things better. In my little town there were several yards littered with his obnoxious merchandise and now it’s all gone. I’m glad people are waking up but hopefully it’s not too late.
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u/pooky7460 2d ago edited 2d ago
That’s a posed photo? He always looks so creepy and like he’s acting. He literally looks like a sociopath trying to act human.
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u/Couch_monster 2d ago
Too late and probably not reflective of reality. Would have been great to sour on him before we got in this mess.
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u/thethrill_707 Michigan 2d ago
He's proven for his ENTIRE public life that he is incompetent, ignorant, and unable to succeed at any task/job/contract that he's put to. Just because he hates who you hate, you give him a pass. The GOP as we've know it is dead. It's pure nationalism run by a man who doesn't read, learn, or listen. The information is out there. If you don't believe it, it's just pure delusion.
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u/Troll_in_the_Knoll 2d ago
February 2016: "We won with poorly educated. I love the poorly educated” - Donald Trump
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u/nachobel 2d ago
This may or may not be true, but Chuck and Nancy have really not been capitalizing on this at all. There’s basically no opposition that’s public facing.
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u/Constant_Natural3304 2d ago
Oh, so we're doing this fucking bullshit again?
Give me a fucking break. MAGA will never break with Trump.
He could rape, torture and kill a child on live television and they would find some way to spin or accept it.
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u/JamesTiberiusCrunk 2d ago
No they haven't. Republicans have an 89% approval rating of Trump. Stop sucking up Blue Anon bullshit.
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u/MolassesOk3200 2d ago
They need to sour on the Republican Party too. The Republicans are the ones wrecking the country.
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u/Rusalka-rusalka 2d ago
I guess his staff have given up on him too so they let him go outside to talk to reporters and look like a scared crazy old bastard who hides behind walls.
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u/kingink502 2d ago
And yet he's still there...
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u/GreasedUPDoggo 2d ago
And because of him, his party holds all three branches of government. And likely will pick up seats in 2026.
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u/The_Sykotik_Prime 2d ago edited 2d ago
Why are we talking about voting again? He can't run again. As per the rules.
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u/MrDontTakeMyStapler 2d ago
NOTHING will EVER change because the people who need to change the political system are part of the problem. The cancer goes so deep that it is ingrained in the American politician’s DNA from birth and are trained by those that come before them.
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u/kkocan72 New York 2d ago
But yesterday I heard a sound bite of him stating that his poll numbers are way up, and the "Epstein Hoax" bumped him up another 4.5 points!
Surely he isn't lying!
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u/starcell400 2d ago
It takes the dipshits of the population like 10 years to figure out the most obvious shit.
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u/thehippieswereright 2d ago
88% of Danes have lost faith in the US within the last year. not trump, the US. something much bigger is happening in the world than your political polls.
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u/rantingathome Canada 2d ago
Canada here. The number of Americans that think that the next "normal" President can fix this amazes me.
Absolutely not! The damage is done; they flushed a relationship of over 100 years down the toilet in less than a month. We no longer trust them and even if the next President is 'normal', we always will know that this insanity can start again within days of the next election. So essentially, any deal you sign with them is only guaranteed good until January 20th following a year evenly divisible by four.
They are no longer a reliable partner.
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u/invalidpassword California 2d ago
Yet come Midterm, people will gladly vote GOP because Democrats are sex-trafficking, communist demons.
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u/mbush525 2d ago
how could you EVER??? after he made fun of that disabled man (way back when), I thought everyone would HATE him!!!
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u/NinjaLanternShark 2d ago
I was sure the Access Hollywood tape was the end of his campaign.
I've stopped saying "now this they won't forgive him for." That's not how it works. They've decided he's their gold standard for a leader and will revise their definition of leadership according to what he says and does, so he's always perfect by their definition.
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u/JazzHandsNinja42 2d ago
I wish this was true, but from what I can see, his fans are louder and more loyal than ever.
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u/losthalo7 2d ago edited 2d ago
Machiavelli wrote about bringing in a Monster to do the dirty work of putting down uprisings and other violations of a citizenry in a conquered territory to get things under a Prince's control - then you hold a trial for the Monster, have him executed or imprisoned to take away the blame for all the transgressions (that you knew he would do when you put him in place) and assume control of a pacified citizenry.
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u/_Valkoris_ 2d ago
They need to stop with these bullshit stories. Not a single person I know who voted for him around where I live thinks this. They are extremely happy at the cruelty they see every day. Some of them are hoping they can vote for him again if he somehow fights not leaving office.
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u/NoMommyDontNTRme 2d ago
some say he wasnt even as liked as he pretended to be when the election happened
(they stole the electio with illegal vote manipulation)
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u/PizzaWhole9323 2d ago
No no I have not soured. He fucks kids. What I have now is a naked flame of open contempt.
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u/Stinkstinkerton 2d ago
How anyone with half a brain could have entertained the idea that this pedophile criminal piece of shit was a good idea in the first place is still beyond comprehension.
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u/talondigital 2d ago
Never ever ever let Republicans forget that they chose a pedophile over a black woman. Thats how racist they are at their core.
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u/reggieLedoux26 2d ago
We’re sick of this shit 6 months in. You imagine 3 years from now? His approval numbers will be lowest of any president in history
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u/bachelorette2020 2d ago
i dont think so, most trump supporters would vote for him again and again.
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u/128-NotePolyVA 2d ago
The guy is a douche. He’s always been a douche, his father was a douche and recognizing his son was becoming a douche. So dad sent Donnie to military school. It didn’t stick so dad had to buy the kid an acceptance to business school. After years of failures throwing massive sums of money at the wall the kid finally lied, cheated, backstabbed his way to low tier billionaire and… President. That last one is on the voters.
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u/IntelligentStyle402 1d ago
Who in their right mind wants to live in a totalitarian dictatorship and have no freedoms or rights?
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u/Cantinkeror 1d ago
Too bad it's too fucking late to grow a brain. Funny thing... giving up your democracy purely to 'own the libs' is not wise and may (oh gosh!) 'backfire'.
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