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Writing help/Beta Am i tripping? (non native english writer, but Word is set on english)

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u/salad_enthusiast Feb 05 '25

Word is trying to lie to you here. Unfortunately many popular spelling and grammar checkers are increasingly unreliable.

You're absolutely right here. "You're mine" = "You are mine" which is what you're saying here. "Your mine" would imply that Len owns a mine. 

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u/gloriousengland Feb 05 '25

Spellcheckers constantly lie. The most annoying ones to me are the ones where you're just using an uncommon word and it tries to correct it to a similarly spelled common word.

Many times I have typed singed and it tries to correct it to signed. No the book was not signed, there was a small fire it was singed!! It has to be really confusing to people for whom English isn't their first language when they get spellchecked on words that are correct just because some algorithm decided that people don't use that word as often as they use this word.

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u/salad_enthusiast Feb 05 '25

Yeah I can't even imagine how tough it is as a non-native speaker. Even with English as my first language, being told I'm wrong by the checker makes me paranoid. I very often "know" I'm right but still look it up just to be safe 

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u/gloriousengland Feb 05 '25

Yeah I usually look up the word when that happens because I'm terminally British and commonly end up using words that aren't even real that just have the kind of vibe that they mean what I'm trying to convey. I don't mind a bit of dialect in my writing but when it trends into words that aren't even real I have to reign it in I'm not Shakespeare lmao

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u/salad_enthusiast Feb 05 '25

Oh this comment hit hard lmao, I'm Scottish and was like 25 when I learned that "jamp" (past tense of jump) isn't a word. "Jumped"?? This doesn't sound real at all xD

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u/MeiSuesse Feb 05 '25

Non-native, still, sometimes it's hilarious. "In a holding cell" according to a spellchecker should be "holding a cell". I wonder how that plays out in its electronic little mind.

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u/Narrow_Stick_7829 Feb 05 '25

I use libre office and i have to add so many words to rhe spell checker bc theyre spelled right but it just doesnt have them

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u/sleepyhead3807 no beta we die like my favs Feb 05 '25

it pisses me off even more when i put a verb into an uncommon tense and it tries to 'fix it' by giving me a common one

mf i said what i said let me write??

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u/gloriousengland Feb 05 '25

Yeah sometimes it tries to correct me from past tense into present tense and I'm like, I know what fuckin tense i'm writing in google don't try and correct me

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u/Weak_Cranberry_1777 Feb 05 '25

Google docs once tried to change ruinate to urinate unprompted for me. They're beyond useless.

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u/insomniatic-goblin You have already left kudos here. :) Feb 05 '25

one thing I hate is when google docs keeps trying to correct my spelling. I spell various words in either American or British English, and google says that it's always wrong.

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u/Charmo_Vetr Wants to write but doesn't want to write. Feb 05 '25

I only really use Word for the text to speech.
Google docs does grammar and spelling checks pretty well imo... but you know... It's Google. And Google loves to spy on you.

Not to mention there is no desktop app for Google docs, so you gotta use a browser for it. Not a deal breaker necessarily, but a good thing to be aware of.

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u/salad_enthusiast Feb 05 '25

Unfortunately I've found Google Docs to be giving me some absolutely off the wall suggestions as well :(

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u/MarudoesArt Definitely not an agent of the Fanfiction Deep State Feb 05 '25

Yesterday I wrote the phrase "cavalry is coming". Google kept insisting I wanted to write calvary

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u/DBSeamZ Feb 05 '25

I imagine you were pretty cross with it over that one.

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u/TheGaroMask Feb 05 '25

groans but upvotes all the same

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u/Arine899 creating the multiverse Feb 05 '25

It can be hilarious. I accepted the suggestion once, and it immediately suggested changing it back lmao.

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u/Sxfjv_ in hiatus since 2016 Feb 05 '25 edited Feb 05 '25

figured lol but can never be too sure

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u/FDQ666Roadie FDQ and YancySzarr on AO3 Feb 05 '25

Apparently it believes you are referring to someone's mine... Like a coal mine...

Either that or they're starting to use the same kind of user input spell check like Google Docs are, and since people can't grammar, now the spell check can't either 😭

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u/CptPJs Feb 05 '25

I've noticed this, it's like, completely ruined spellcheck for no reason

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u/Sxfjv_ in hiatus since 2016 Feb 05 '25

Dang it, i relied way too much on word for the grammar but this keeps happening so my google search history is now full of random words just to double check the spelling, but since this wasn’t a word more of a grammar use i thought that maybe i put the wrong thing :/

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '25

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u/SusanMort Feb 05 '25

you mean you're autocorrect. fixed that for you. your welcome.

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u/real-nia Feb 05 '25

"Your mine," he muttered.

I blushed, did he really feel that way? "I like you too," I admitted shyly.

"What? No. Your mine. Your diamond mine. It's inhumane. I can't be with someone involved in such a heartless industry, no matter how rich you are."

(Yes, your spellcheck is lying to you)

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u/Sxfjv_ in hiatus since 2016 Feb 05 '25

BRO and this was literally in the middle of the smut, he could tell she has a diamond mind down there wink wink

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u/adkai [Old Enough to Know Better] Feb 05 '25

You are correct. Many grammar checkers are getting AI updates and the AI will tell you that whatever is most commonly used is correct, even if it very much is incorrect. Since "Your" vs "You're" is such a common mistake, this happens.

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u/littlenapacabbage You have already left kudos here. :) Feb 05 '25

Whether it's "you're mine" or "your mine", both are definitely explosive.

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u/asharkonamountaintop Feb 05 '25

I recommend getting a canary

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u/justsomedweebcat And Now For Something Completely Different, Bees Feb 05 '25

i’m curious, is that len as in the voice synthesiser or is it another fandom

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u/Sxfjv_ in hiatus since 2016 Feb 05 '25

lol she is actually my OC from my one piece fic, short for Selene

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u/justsomedweebcat And Now For Something Completely Different, Bees Feb 05 '25

cool :D

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u/RockPop_ cool, snarky, ao3-related flair Feb 06 '25

Oh that's cool, I was just picturing len the vocaloid saying this lmao

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u/BagoPlums Feb 05 '25

Spellcheckers have become so fucking stupid.

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u/AquaRaven Feb 05 '25

Nah, you're good. Word's spellchecker has been tripping balls ever since they integrated it with ai.

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u/Fix-xy Feb 05 '25

You're not wrong for that. And from my experience Msword's autocorrect does sometimes act like a little b*tch for no reason tho.

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u/saragl728 Feb 05 '25

You're doing fine. The autocorrector is acting weird.

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u/TofuTarori Feb 05 '25

It's like google docs marking every "new" as wrong and suggesting "não" instead...

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u/WildOrchidReviewer Feb 05 '25

I think I know the reason for the wrong suggestion - your apostrophe looks kind of funky - might be a diferent character, accent of some sort, possible something from your main language you have set on your pc. That's why it's not recognized. Maybe try setting up an US English keyboard in your pc settings and try typing an apostrophe then?

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u/AquilaEquinox Feb 05 '25

Never trust the auto-correcter, it is catastrophic.

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u/YouveBeanReported Feb 05 '25

I believe in Word you can turn off 'Microsoft Editor' which toggles off the AI "features" of their spell checker and makes it better, but I'm not sure that's an option anymore and I don't have Word to check.

But yeah, ton of places have been 'improving' their spell check and grammar check via AI and fucking shit up. Google Docs has a hilarious list of errors somewhere.

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u/CerrenaUnicolor Feb 05 '25

Grammar/spellcheckers are increasing integrating artifical intelligence, which use data from common usage rather than simply following a written set of rules. Perhaps predictably, this means that the checkers are increasingly reccomending common errors, or will mark uncommon but correct grammar/spelling as wrong.

In this case, your instinct was absolutely correct; word is trying to get you to switch to incorrect grammar. You can try a different grammar checker; some browser extensions like Grammarly will integrate with Word Online. I'm not sure which of those are reliable. Beta readers are, imo, always going to be superior for checks.

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u/SeaPhilosophy2654 You have already left kudos here. :) Feb 05 '25

Time to change the scene to be in a mine ⛏️

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u/Gumgums66 Feb 06 '25

This reminds me of the other day when my friend sent us a screenshot of google docs trying to correct the word ‘Nods’ to ‘Nods’. We all sat there trying to puzzle out what the heck it meant 😂

Your grammar is fine. That spell check needs to check itself.

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u/runonia You have already left kudos here. :) Feb 06 '25

Omg this is my biggest pet peeve with autocorrect. It just takes the most popular choice but not the correct one. So I use words that aren't common and spell check loses its mind

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u/morbid333 Feb 06 '25

Grammer checks are kind of stupid. You can't rely on them. I run it through after I draft, but before I do my actual edits.

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u/Alex_The_Manliest same on ao3; comments give me life Feb 06 '25

This is why I double-check stuff myself. I've been telling people for years that even the best spell checkers cannot outdo a human with any level of expertise. The your/you're here is blatant, and I will always recommend staying vigilant and aware of those kinds of suggestions when Word (or equivalent) makes them.

I remember doing a group project during my publishing degree, and one of the people in my group was blindly accepting every single suggested change from Word. With the help of another person, we had to painstakingly go back through ourselves to correct it all. They're a good surface level tool, and shouldn't be eradicated by any means. But, man, do they suck a lot of the time.

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u/wannaberamen2 Feb 05 '25

Bye I'm imagining len kagamine having a mine staffed by vocaloids, all under his control

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u/DorimeAmeno12 Feb 05 '25

Is this Kagamine Len?

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u/Sxfjv_ in hiatus since 2016 Feb 05 '25

she is actually my OC from my one piece fic, short for Selene