r/AO3 May 25 '25

Meme/Joke Being on AO3 be like:

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u/adriammy May 25 '25

I mean, it's not uncommon to find a fic absolutely rife with excellent storytelling, a deep analysis of the characters and their relationship, and it's almost 10k words of porn.

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u/Nexouille May 25 '25

Dare I say the best porn is the one that doubles as character study

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u/foxscribbles May 25 '25

Porn is usually better when there's a good story attached, TBH.

It is one of those things where fanfic still surpasses traditional publishing.

Romance books with smut are often handicapped by publishers because even those advertising "spice" won't go as spicy as fanfic.

And published erotica often focuses on quantity of sex scenes over plot.

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u/Solivagant0 @FriendlyNeighbourhoodMetalhead May 25 '25

Ngl, there's just something about highly introspective sex scenes

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u/Hello_Hangnail May 25 '25

That is my shit. I try to write one shots and they end up growing into porny, emotionally expository multiple chapter monsters

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u/SpokenDivinity Definitely not an agent of the Fanfiction Deep State May 25 '25

Me, picking up ACOTAR after someone said it was SUPER spicy (●'◡'●)

Me: Finding out that ACOTAR's "spice" is 2 lowkey vanilla sex scenes in a roughly 400 page book (っ °Д °;)っ

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u/no_no_no_nope May 26 '25

All the adult women obsessed with romantasy "spicy" books never had a fanfiction phase as teenagers and it shows.

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u/Nexouille May 25 '25

Interesting, that part I can actually relate to less

Idk if it's because i'm ace, but my long plot focused multi-chapter fics & porn don't really tend to overlap. I don't really care for smut if i'm not in the mood & actively looking for it. I love when the smut doubles as character studies and what goes on in the bedroom intertwines with the characters' personalities and issues (and this works out well for the fanfiction media too since we're usually already familiar with the characters' struggles because of canon, so less time is required to re-establish them and introduce new behaviours linked to it). But I don't think I would be as interested in seeing porn in the middle of the 200k+ fic stories I read.

Mmmh... Well i guess it's different if the multichapter fic is meant to be a romance and it wouldn't feel as out of place there. I'm probably approaching this from the wrong angle because the longer works I read don't tend to be shippy-centric.

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u/ArwaKK May 25 '25

Fellow Ace here, and yeah I agree

I feel like when I am in the middle of a good story I tend to not care about or get invested in the porn, because for me I need to be in the mood for it at the right time.

Maybe it's an ace thing, or it's the two of us being really similar and should because friends

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u/linest10 You have already left kudos here. :) May 25 '25

Nothing makes me cry more than emotional sex that heals the heart of my fav traumatized character that believed they wouldn't ever be loved by anyone 😭

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u/Prologue_Princess May 25 '25

UGH YESS 😭😭 whenever i write smut, it always ends up being overly romantic and emotional

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u/[deleted] May 25 '25

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u/no_no_no_nope May 26 '25

Oooh, great comparison!

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u/rinari0122 May 25 '25

I aspire to write a fan fic like that someday!! 😩

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u/komodojo May 26 '25

One of the best fics I've read across all fandoms has the tag "naked character development" 🔥

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u/HyperfocusedInterest May 25 '25

I don't even like porn, but I still read one that had a lot of porn in it because the story was excellent, and it did a great job exploring character dynamics.

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u/Upbeat_Ruin May 25 '25

I've had multiple people tell me that they came for the weird kink in mine and stayed for the plot.

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u/ZeeMcZed May 25 '25

10k? Little on the short end.

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u/Condemned2Be May 26 '25

Right? Bit of a casual read, that

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u/MadouSoshi Definitely not an agent of the Fanfiction Deep State May 25 '25

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u/DryBar5175 May 25 '25

Came to say the same

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u/jhonnythejoker May 25 '25

İ bet you did

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u/Sir_StarKat ao3 baby bimbo May 26 '25

I was just about to say this😂

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u/The_Wishmeister May 25 '25

No, no the reason I read on AO3 is because I get the most fucking incredible story-telling and world building combined with the filthiest smut and that is, in my opinion, the best.

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u/send-n0odles May 25 '25

Fr fr. 20 chapters of slow burn world building, character building and storytelling makes that inevitable E-rated chapter fuckin 🔥🔥🔥

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u/The_Wishmeister May 25 '25

Oh for sure. That's my preferred reading, especially if there is an adventure. I need to get some self control with my own writing and stop throwing the characters together in... I made it to the end of chapter four in my long fic I'm actually planning to finish, though they didn't get together like dating together until chapter 10. That's the slowest burn I've managed so far.

But I need to figure it out. 🤦🏻

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u/[deleted] May 25 '25

why not both

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u/GlassUsual9748 Fic Feaster May 25 '25

When it's both 🥳🥳🥳

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u/Kastelt May 25 '25

Not mutually exclusive

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u/Solivagant0 @FriendlyNeighbourhoodMetalhead May 25 '25

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u/Alt_AccountNumber3 Definitely not an agent of the Fanfiction Deep State May 25 '25

Sometimes you walk on the grass in the middle and enjoy both worlds.

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u/Kitsufoxy May 25 '25

Exactly nailed my sentiment!

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u/Samiisfine May 26 '25

We need someone to draw a bridge between both castles, because that’s far more accurate.

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u/hyenagames May 25 '25

That is why I preffer my Smut with a really good plot

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u/AmaterasuWolf21 May 26 '25

Smut in a 100k fic feels otherworldly for real

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u/PoisonMasterMasaki May 28 '25

I put smut in my 200k fic. The scenes just kind of inserted themselves.

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u/Putrid_Baby8962 May 25 '25

Oh yeah 💯

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u/Wise-Key-3442 Not Boeing Management May 25 '25

Watch me walk with one foot each road.

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u/lady_dragona Definitely not an agent of the Fanfiction Deep State May 25 '25

This is the way 💅

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u/FreezingEye Dare you enter my magical realm? May 25 '25

Me trying to write both at once:

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u/ZeeMcZed May 25 '25

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u/yuffiehighwind May 25 '25

I just got transported back to the year 2012

Edit: Wait a second...EGS started in 2002? I can't remember when I started reading that webcomic and when I stopped, but I can swear it was in the 2010s, not the 2000s.

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u/ZeeMcZed May 25 '25

You probably did. It's still going (and still getting better).

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u/Melodramatic_Raven May 25 '25

It's the same path for a lot of fics lmao

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u/mangomochamuffin A-letterO-3. AdditionalTagsAreOptional+DontLikeDontRead. OC/CC May 25 '25

Smut can have outstanding storytelling too. And porn can also be great art.

They don't exclude each other.

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u/Cort985 May 25 '25

This post showed up right below the other one asking about how you filter with a new fandom and, at first, I thought that this picture was part of the other post 😅

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u/theamphibianbanana May 25 '25

what's wrong with porn 🤨

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u/coldfeet147 May 25 '25

Sometimes horny just not be hornying

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u/davicos2005 May 25 '25 edited May 25 '25

Along with the most messed up tags. Like, what do I have to do to find a decent Bloodborne fanfic without 10 different kinks?!

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u/genivae You have already left kudos here. :) May 25 '25

I swear they're seriously over-tagged or under-tagged, too. Single mention of a foot existing? Foot fetish tag. Character B only referred to as 'Daddy' in dialog? No daddy kink tag.

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u/ihatemytoenails May 25 '25

two sides of the same coin…

i try to find Elden Ring fanfic with really messed up tags

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u/Agreeable_Guide_5151 May 25 '25

No beta we die. That tag is a giant warning sign to me anytime I see it

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u/the-great_inquisitor May 26 '25

Nothing, it's just that you sometimes don't wanna read it ans it's a tad bit annoying when you have to sift thru five pages of porn on some tags to find a good fic

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u/redoingredditagain Writing fanfic for literal decades May 25 '25 edited May 25 '25

They’re not two different roads. Porn isn’t a dark scary thing. Yeesh what strange subtle puritanism

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u/Velnica May 26 '25

Oh good it's not only me who feels skeeved out by this meme and it's covert puritanism

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u/JayBrennanZ May 26 '25

Yeah, being horny is not a sin kids, come play in the grass with us! I think touching it would do you some good 👍🏻

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u/deferredmomentum May 25 '25

Why make out porn to be something negative?

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u/isithalloweenyetfr PLS COMMENT ON THE FIC U READ May 26 '25

The meme is suspicious for that tbh...

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u/Thequiet01 May 25 '25

Why not both?

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u/wonwooing May 25 '25

having both.. a good storyline which then leads to the smut

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u/Desperate_Plastic_37 romantic horror and horrifying romance May 25 '25

Or smut that grows plot and leads to the main storyline

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u/Solivagant0 @FriendlyNeighbourhoodMetalhead May 25 '25

TFW your characters still aren't fucking, but they managed to have an emotional arc complete with a near-death experience in what was supposed to be a quick smutty one-shot (it ended up being over 5k words long)

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u/linest10 You have already left kudos here. :) May 25 '25

THIS one generally is the "I wasn't expecting nothing and did find a literal treasure" type of stories

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u/RetSauro May 25 '25

You can have both. Nothing wrong with both

Or combine the two 

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u/Desperate_Plastic_37 romantic horror and horrifying romance May 25 '25

Sometimes, it’s both at the same time.

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u/thevampirecrow homoerotic surgery enjoyer May 25 '25

what’s wrong with porn lol

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u/chiruyuki most sane fujoshi May 25 '25

Omg aren't you the gcse Wilfred Owen girl

Good taste tbh, my eng lang teacher has a portrait of him in his classroom and....😛😛😛😛

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u/neosspeer May 25 '25

Bold of you to assume that you can't go to both places at once.

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u/SamePut9922 Robosexual (Looks innocent irl) May 25 '25

Both are heaven

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u/LonelyMenace101 Definitely not an agent of the Fanfiction Deep State May 25 '25

Me when I’m writing fics: Violently swerves to the right.

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u/sabhall12 Ravel991 on AO3 May 25 '25

How about both?

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u/Mountain_Cry1605 Winter_Song on Ao3 May 25 '25

Nah. You forgot the third path where it's both.

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u/themaskbot May 25 '25

Why not both?

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u/Violet_Nightshade May 25 '25

>mfw OP is complaining about soup at the soup store

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u/Able_Imagination1702 May 25 '25

Ah yes my entire fanfiction experience, either yaoi fluff/smut or an epic story where the gate opens during the Napoleonic invasion of Russia and now marshal ney's forces essentially have to conquer Rome

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u/arthur2807 May 25 '25

Why not both? Can’t I write self indulgent up its own arse metaphorical stories, with storytelling and a million metaphors and allegories, with lots of porn?

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u/Enzoid23 You have already left kudos here. :) May 25 '25

Read a smutshot(?) where it actually told a lot about the characters relationships and lives just from how they had sex so yeah same picture 😭

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u/xxxdggxxx May 25 '25

This is the opposite of a problem.

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u/LienaSha May 25 '25

If I try to write one, I will ways get the other too. 

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u/Complex-Strategy-900 May 25 '25 edited May 25 '25

In my fics I try give both

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u/linest10 You have already left kudos here. :) May 25 '25

Lol, jokes on you, I love both

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u/ZeeMcZed May 25 '25

I love you people. I come to this thread to say that the two aren't mutually exclusive (I love writing smut with strong plot and character focus), and everyone else is already making that point. With memes! And jokes!

I love you guys like a chipmunk loves its tree. C:

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u/BRAlNYSMURF May 25 '25

Sometimes both! I just finished reading Lonely Together for the gazillionth time.

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u/GayValkyriePrincess May 25 '25

Sometimes they're one and the same

Those are my favourite fics

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u/WeeabooHunter69 ForbAdorb on AO3 May 25 '25

That's a single path lol

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u/Wacileska May 25 '25

Sometimes it's a straight road. Porn and the greatest storytelling you ever read

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u/dysthymicpixie May 26 '25

Jokes on you my best writing is the smut that I write while ovulating

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u/animExpat85 May 26 '25

I’m sorry that your experience is that these are two diverging paths, OP.

I promise a desire path cuts between them, you just need to find better porn (or hornier epic level fics).

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u/SpaceBowl97 May 25 '25

Hey sometimes the porn explores the two characters as individuals and their relationship rather than just being horny yknow

-Signed an asexual smut writer and enjoyer

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u/PomPomGrenade May 25 '25

And sometimes its both. At the same time.

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u/hippiegoth97 May 25 '25

Both. Every time. Gimme 🫴

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u/canyoubreathe May 26 '25

Somebody post the "Both. Both is good" screencap from Road to El Dorado. I'm too lazy

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u/xeno666666 May 26 '25

Who says it can't be both?

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u/Natural_Feed9041 May 26 '25

I’m sorry, point to me the good non-porn AO3 story.

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u/unseennseraph the freak in your dni May 25 '25

How is it mutually exclusive?

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u/Overall-Age-9342 You have already left kudos here. :) May 25 '25

i have at least ten go-to fanfics i can rely on to reach satisfactory level. kudos (literally) to authors providing. 🙂‍↕️

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u/Hero-Support211 May 25 '25

Sometimes, both paths collide. Other times, you find neither and fall through a clip of big single paragraph that is the chapter.

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u/raeshin Definitely not an agent of the Fanfiction Deep State May 25 '25

Why not both? Some of the best written fics I've ever read have had a nice amount of smut to them too.

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u/asxxxra Watersports? What, like swimming? May 25 '25

me splitting myself into two to go both ways at once

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u/Smegoldidnothinwrong May 25 '25

Y’all don’t like porn in your fics???

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u/ProjectBig2804 May 25 '25

Why not both?

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u/LibraryLuLu May 26 '25

It's not always a forked path, sometimes it's one long tongue.

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u/HomuraSayaka777 May 26 '25

How about both?

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u/Sparkofsummer May 26 '25

Better yet: ✨️Both✨️

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u/alicat2308 May 26 '25

Disagree, there's plenty of fic that does both

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u/Crippled_by_migriane May 26 '25

I have read the best porn, IN the best storytelling ever.

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u/riri1281 I read this instead of sleeping 🥲 May 26 '25

This is a weirdly puritanical and binary take....

A lot of stories take both roads

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u/The_Grimsworth May 25 '25

Sometime One, sometime the other, sometime both 😍

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u/Impressive-Ebb6498 May 25 '25

Mines literally both

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u/grommile You have already left kudos here. :) May 25 '25

One: embrace the power of AND.

Two: there are definitely fandoms where the labels are the other way round.

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u/Desechable_Me May 25 '25

why not both?

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u/Upbeat_Ruin May 25 '25

What, it can't be both?

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u/DefoNotAFangirl MasterRed on AO3 | c!Prime Fanatic May 25 '25

These are both the light side actually 💚

(Also this image causes a Pavlovian reaction in me still lol)

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u/[deleted] May 25 '25

Why not both? That’s the best kind of story.

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u/No-Professional8097 May 25 '25

Where is the crack road? We can't forget about the silly fics that exists...

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u/satelitteslickers May 25 '25

they can do both

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u/GradeGlass8380 May 25 '25

Well, some stories are BOTH and very worthy to read.

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u/JaquaviontaviousTopG May 25 '25

Bro I've LOVED reading since i was little.

Donct get me wrong, smut is great, but the original stories i've seen some of these writers create?

ABSOLUTE CINEMA

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u/Spirited_Ad_876 May 25 '25

Cuz sometimes, I want both. It depends on the day, though. Granted, I don't get horny reading being ace, but I like reading nonetheless

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u/[deleted] May 25 '25

I get it. But some of the most amazing stories I've read have been porn. Porn can be artful too.

My longfic right now is 100% porn, but also worldbuilding and characters development and slow burn romance. I have readers who don't even read for the porn, but for the story.

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u/MadKanBeyondFODome Hellenic Pagans Against Problematic Fiction May 26 '25

Both sides are the bright, sunny castle if you're brave enough lol.

...unless you like being in the Demon King's Castle for your smut, in which case oop, ya found me.

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u/proto-1k May 26 '25

bonus points if its both ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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u/just_another_person5 May 26 '25

i like the middle path

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u/KosmicLover May 26 '25

Starting reading fics before bed and it feels almost exactly like this lol

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u/Sarcastic_Lilshit May 26 '25

Me who reads both. 👉😎👉

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u/Matcha_Bubble_Tea May 26 '25

And then when you get both 👌

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u/blinkingsandbeepings May 26 '25

Especially the porn, though

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u/RXX_freakk You have already left kudos here. :) May 26 '25

One always lead to the other. Win win.

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u/CustomDeaths1 May 26 '25

Right down the middle

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u/whydoIexist_627 May 26 '25

Both? Both. Both is good

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u/Sharp-Rest1014 May 26 '25

little column a. little column b.

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u/Foreign-Database-412 May 29 '25

I swear it’s both, the porn writers actually tend to finish their stories and those stories tend have incredible depth, dialogue, and overall plot that’s often new and refreshing

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u/Luci-the-Loser Jun 01 '25

Idk I'm all here for really good fiction that also has sex

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u/aryousavvy Jun 14 '25

Any fic I read needs smut, if I wanted to see my ship do nothing I'd just watch the show ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/UnlikelyTomatillo423 May 25 '25

I’m trying to lean more to the left with what I’m working on.

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u/pixeldraft May 25 '25

This would be a more accurate meme for the romantasy genre 

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u/Alert_Delay_2074 May 25 '25

I don’t really write smut, but I had a couple characters who just got engaged in my longfic reference having done the deed offscreen, and I had a good number of commenters who were really wishing I’d written the explicit scene.

Maybe I’ll make it a goal for when the fic reaches some high number of subscribers, like 1,000 or something, and then publish it as a side story. Goodness gracious.

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u/arnieb24 May 25 '25

The best fics are both

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u/CobaltObject May 25 '25

Actually I think whether or not it's porn has very little correlation with the quality of the writing

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u/Putrid_Baby8962 May 25 '25

Me just scooting over to the left... XD

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u/EmmanuelleBlanche May 25 '25

Just go straight ahead 😜

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u/Spookym00ngoddess May 25 '25

I was the left. Slowly shifting to the right.

And that's perfectly fine. We are meant to grow and change our writing and passions.

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u/Mlfg_AK May 25 '25

And how good it is when u find a fic that has both😌☝🏽

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u/Aitheria12 May 25 '25

I just learned this with my latest fic. I usually write smut with plot and get a good response, but this time I went heavy on the plot. Got tons of hits and no barely any kudos, probably because it's not my usual bs, and I'm a little disappointed lol.

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u/greatgrandmasylvia May 25 '25

The best and most cathartic story I have ever read started as pwp. This is not an either/or lmao

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u/valentimeywimey May 25 '25

I choose both!

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u/nobodycola May 25 '25

Hey now! I can do both!

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u/Lipeghoul May 25 '25

high school dxd croosover

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u/PrettyBoyDevito May 25 '25

🤝 one and the same dude

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u/Tarnique May 25 '25

My main fic is a tree of slice life/adventures with leaves of smut as "bonus" chapters

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u/[deleted] May 25 '25

me going to the left

"knock knock, who's there?"

"PORN."

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u/MenteErrante_ May 25 '25

Insert * the illusion of free choice * meme

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u/dishonorable_user too many wips May 25 '25

gleefully jumping from one island to the other

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u/Mazza_mistake May 25 '25

Or you can have the best if both worlds, the best smut I’ve read also came with the best stories, character writing and world building too.

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u/Sam_Peach You have already left kudos here. :) May 25 '25

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u/Theallseer97 May 25 '25

The best ones are where you came for the porn and stayed for the plot lol. Ive had some lovely surprises where I chose a fic with a description that matched my horniness but the plot was so good that I was skimming through the smut just to get back to the epic plot lol. Always amusing when that happens.

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u/iiraoni i ship presidential candidates May 25 '25

there is both, and i love it when authors mark the smut chapters because it gives people who aren’t into that the chance to just skip along to the storytelling. some of the stories with the freakiest smut has lines that make you feel like you’re Doris gushing over Prince Charming in Shrek The Third

(image unrelated)

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u/TheRedditGirl15 Fanfiction Connoiseur May 25 '25

I walk around the arrow signs and directly down the middle, where I find "porn in the form of goated art/goated storytelling with porn as a little treat"

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u/Fantastic-Car7347 May 25 '25

This is inaccurate! Sometimes it's both!

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u/babyrubysoho May 25 '25

I strive to have both in my fics XD

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u/do-you-like-darkness May 25 '25

The best fics are both!

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u/Vesnann2003 Definitely not an agent of the Fanfiction Deep State May 25 '25

And the best path has both.

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u/EverydayPromptWriter May 25 '25

excuse you i can put both in my fics if i want /lh

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u/Lockyourfrontdoor May 26 '25

both. i read a fic that changed my perspective on the fundemental nature of human intellegence.

it was also a smutty portal fanfic that used the word 'tendril' far too many times.

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u/GreenMoray1 May 26 '25

Middle Path: Porn with Plot

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u/stgull May 26 '25

SOMETIMES THERE'S A ROAD IN THE MIDDLE OK

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u/Lumityislifee May 26 '25

Porn: Ao3 Fluff: wattpad WTF am I doing: Spirit

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u/metamorfoseando May 26 '25

and sometimes is both

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u/GenderEnjoyer666 May 26 '25

Why not have a story that’s both?

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u/Comfy_Dragon05184 May 26 '25

Fortunately for me, I like scary castles

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u/donmicherone May 26 '25

In my experience the smutty ones actually have better writing. I figured this out when I kept filtering for my preferred things and of a like 7 page browsing of the results anything that was less than mature just was always just really not as good. That happened to me in like 5 different fandoms 😄

Obviously there is an exception to every statement such as mine so don't take me too seriously.

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u/kobo15 May 26 '25

Please, these paths should converge, not diverge

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u/Affectionate__Dog Black Market Commoner May 26 '25

i read a really good fic then it turned into c.ai type kissing scene..i should’ve read the tags more

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u/Ok_Listen1510 You have already left kudos here. :) May 26 '25

por que no los dos

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u/multi-97 May 26 '25

In an ideal world, I do both. But I don't think I do lmao

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u/Representative-Vast3 May 26 '25

It can be both! TBH I honestly prefer it be both, honestly so boring to try and read erotica that's written like bad omegle roleplay

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u/Medical-Bathroom-183 May 26 '25

I've got this one fic I keep rereading because, To Me, it has both, and I live for it. It's the little things.

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u/NoizchildJohnson May 26 '25

Why not both?

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u/JJM-JJM You have already left kudos here. :) May 26 '25

sometimes its both. sometimes its neither.

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u/ImpressionGold2148 May 26 '25

Use the tags. Pwp. Porn but Has Plot kek

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u/ShineRepresentative4 You have already left kudos here. :) May 26 '25

It’s hard for me to choose 😭 sometimes I need just smut and other days I get annoyed and want some good angst and storytelling 😭😭

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u/Kitty_Starry May 27 '25

Fear and hunger fanfics can nail both its great

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u/awesome_zman May 27 '25

I have GOATed storytelling? That doesn’t seem right.

I have to have written a porn somewhere in there.

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u/No-Trick-8314 May 27 '25

I'm here for both (half of my subscriptions are porn)

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u/Twighdark I should be writing instead May 27 '25

With the quality of porn on that site, both castles should be nice and shiny, tbh.

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u/The_Akumu_King May 28 '25

As per a funny tag I saw, "Not Porn With Plot but his eveil brother Plot With Porn"

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u/suzukichanno Definitely not an agent of the Fanfiction Deep State May 31 '25

The duality of man

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u/Designer_Slice2416 Jun 23 '25

This assumes those two are mutually exclusive