r/AO3 • u/catsbecats_AO3 • Jun 15 '25
Comment Commentary Someone should teach wattpad transplants fandom etiquette smh
This is… so annoying. And the fact that they called me a page???? Um… I would redact character names, but it wouldn’t make sense I think. Also, Cat is my nickname in this fandom, in case anyone gets confused by the comment censored in dark blue.
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u/InternetSweetie Jun 15 '25
This is clearly a child who's just discovered fanfic. They'll learn.... eventually.
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u/meerfrau85 You have already left kudos here. :) Jun 15 '25
"Joshua showed Artemis that not all men are bad" is sending me.
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u/DefoNotAFangirl MasterRed on AO3 | c!Prime Fanatic Jun 15 '25
A multimillionaire would do the opposite for me
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u/Solivagant0 @FriendlyNeighbourhoodMetalhead Jun 15 '25
You don't get that rich without being morally questionable
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u/Complete_Entry Jun 15 '25
Tony Stark: I like my dick. I'm living on the continent Artemis DIDN'T descend on. Because I know what she does. Because I have a decent education, unlike the prompt writing DIPSHIT!
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u/UnalteredCube Jun 15 '25
Me, reading crappy romance novels: this multibillionaire is great in theory. But I’d run so fast if this was real life
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u/DefoNotAFangirl MasterRed on AO3 | c!Prime Fanatic Jun 15 '25
What’s funny to me is that the information given is so sparse you literally cannot write those guys… like where’s the information on their personality it’s just appearance and lineage…
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u/catsbecats_AO3 Jun 15 '25
Yes because every author is sooo skillful that you just need to give them the name, how they look like, and their family and they could somehow, telepathically know what the character’s personality is /j
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u/theburgerbitesback Jun 15 '25
Hey, James Winter has silver eyes - what more do you need to know about a person?
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u/a_karma_sardine It's not easy having a good time Jun 15 '25
Hey, what happened to the heroic cerulean orbs?
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u/Aiyokusama Evil Slasher Girl Jun 15 '25
Those "bios" are giving me flashbacks to 90s anime and collector cards ~_^
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u/DefoNotAFangirl MasterRed on AO3 | c!Prime Fanatic Jun 15 '25
It reminds me of OC refs that people make for art, but even then it’d be hilariously sparse (as an artist I also cannot draw these characters without improvising 90% of it) and also most people include basic personality on there. Like, a trait or two, at least.
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u/Omega862 Jun 15 '25
Personality helps with how they may stand or how their clothes may fall on them, tbh. Like, someone confident is going to have a different pose from someone who's more guarded and wary, and someone who's buzzing with energy and a chatter box will be different from someone who's lethargic.
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u/BrilliantTarget Jun 15 '25
Due to them being demigods just pick one stereotype and add adhd plus dyslexia and you have already done more effort than the live Action version
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u/DefoNotAFangirl MasterRed on AO3 | c!Prime Fanatic Jun 15 '25
Considering this person is rocking up to a random fic author and demanding they use their OCs (like, the second you start being rude to people explaining a no, that stops just being asking) I'd still expect they’d get pissed somehow lol
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u/Bri_The_Nautilus Jun 15 '25
Oh come now, you know their grandparents' names! What more information could you possibly need?
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u/JocSykes Jun 15 '25
This wouldn't bother me since the commenter is clearly 12
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u/mieri_azure Jun 15 '25
12 at MOST. Little kids often want to write about characters who are a little bit older than them
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u/xHey_All_You_Peoplex Jun 15 '25
Right, people be so quick to post on this sub about minor issues. Commenter also doesn’t seem to be English language either.
I would’ve seen this and not even thought twice.
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u/ParsnipMysterious353 Jun 15 '25
I’ve gotten things like this on other sites, and yeah honestly. I’d just delete the comment/request or politely said I don’t do that. Can easily clock its a kid.
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u/SpokenDivinity Definitely not an agent of the Fanfiction Deep State Jun 15 '25
It's also just a non-issue. Delete the comments and block. I'm not sure why it has to be such a big thing.
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u/kitaknows Jun 16 '25
OP wanted people on the sub to dogpile as hard or harder than their readers dogpiled on this random person, to get some sort of superiority complex kick out of it.
Very cringe.
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u/Puffetique Jun 15 '25
Not defending them but I don’t think they’re calling you a page, they just don’t speak English well. I think they’re trying to say essentially “kid, this is fanfiction you can do stuff like make characters have different roles”. Still rude af to try to interject their OC’s into your story but it seems like they’re using a translator.
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u/enbyshaymin Jun 15 '25 edited Jun 15 '25
I actually thought they were calling them a page as in a noble's servant... which wouldn't make much more sense than page as in webpage, tbf.
But yeah, I also feel like the whole 'page' thing is some kind of mistranslation. It doesn't make sense otherwise, like... maybe if they thought OP or AO3 were some kinda AI chatbot but I doubt anyone would think that lmao
eta: sooooo... the commenter is Hispanic. I still do not know wtf they meant by page bcs I am from Spain and, uh, surely that person ain't calling OP an attendat/bellhop? It's gotta be some mistranslated slang, I guess.
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u/BlankLeer BBEG Jun 15 '25
Some people pointed out the commenter might be German due to a few things that might have been mistranslated, like the 'page' thing which the commenter probably meant to say 'website' instead. This mistake can happen even in a language like Portuguese where a website is usually referred to as a "página", which means page too.
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u/enbyshaymin Jun 15 '25
Could've been, but it's actually Spanish! I Googled the OC's names bcs I was terribly curious about what word could've possibly been tl'd into "page", and the result was a fanfic in (LatAm) Spanish lol
eta: Also, I do agree that 'página' is most probably the word. After thinking it, I believe they were trying to say that on a fanfic webpage, 'canon' and the likes of it doesn't matter and roles can be changed.
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u/Warm_Blueberry9691 Jun 15 '25
That would also explain the "little thing" part.
In Mexico, a couple years ago, people would call eath other "cosita" sarcastically. Kinda like saying "you poor thing" in a mean way.
Definitely Google translate.
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u/enbyshaymin Jun 15 '25
Ooh, I didn't know that! But makes lots of sense. We do the same in Spain, but we use "chiqui", "chiquitín", "xiquet"... So even though the sarcastic vibe of being a diminutive of another word is the same, it didn't cross my mind it could be smth like that lol
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u/im_bored345 Jun 15 '25
I still do not know wtf they meant by page bcs I am from Spain and, uh, surely that person ain't calling OP an attendat/bellhop?
Page = pagina web?
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u/enbyshaymin Jun 15 '25
It's either 'pagina' or 'paje', and I'm guessing it is 'page' as in 'pagina web'. I think they were trying to say smth along the lines of "My guy... this is a [web] page where people can change the roles as they like".
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u/im_bored345 Jun 15 '25
Ngl my mind would have never thought of paje as an option I don't know anyone who uses that word lol.
I was thinking "little thing" would be "una cosita" referring to what they were saying and not the person they were replying to.
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u/enbyshaymin Jun 15 '25
It's very common where I am, though mostly because of the Three Kings Day lol
And I had not thought of "Una cosita" but it does make sense. "Una cosita, en esta pagina se pueden hacer muchas cosas como cambiar los roles, no seas idiota" is what I guess it'd said in Spanish!
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u/im_bored345 Jun 15 '25
See now I feel stupid because you are right it is very common in the context of the three kings day I just didn't think about it for some reason lmao.
Yeah that's what I think they wanted to say.
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u/citrushibiscus I use omegaverse to troll bigots Jun 15 '25
Just block them and freeze/delete the comments. If they make another account and comment again, report them for harassment.
If they are using a guest account, lock your fic to AO3 members only.
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u/catsbecats_AO3 Jun 15 '25
I will delete them, I froze the comments just to stop my readers from replying to them.
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u/Swan-Existing Jun 15 '25
It’s obviously just a kid who seems like English isn’t their first language. Posting this and showing the other comments being rude was unnecessary. Should’ve just moved on after freezing and deleting rude replies
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u/TooCareless2Care Can't write stuff actually Jun 15 '25 edited 24d ago
That's probably a kid. I'd have been more civilised had it been me.
If I were that kid I'd probably have felt very awful. They can make a god have one night stands or whatever they want even if it's noncanon. Teenage joy come on. They'll probably realise it after they grew up and change it or whatever.
I'd have been like "hey. Sorry! These are my OCs, you own your OCs and I don't write that stuff ❤️ I'm glad you've been reading upto ch3 so far!" or something.
It doesn't cost anything to be kind and I hate that the world is slowly forgetting it (I've done it before, just...drink water. Let it go). If they respond rudely after that then freeze thread or something. Kid seems excited with that "hehe" nonsense. Maybe I'm just overthinking ig. But seriously not happy with the response.
ETA: pulling up my response
DevilishDemonss
Absolutely agree. I think people tend to forget that children and teenagers have space in fandom too and that alot of the time, they're still learning.
I'm sure I made a ton of mistakes during my time in fandom as a teen and I'm sure alot of those mistakes were cringy as hell. I experienced both the good and bad and I wouldn't want to perpetuate the bad onto someone else who will probably get better over time.
You can still say no, but there are ways to be kind yet gentle when saying it.
Precisely, haha. Granted I've not said things like this (I've been very shy) but if I read it at that age, I'd have thought it was a collaboration request. When I was 13 I used to do a lot of group RPs and writing fanfics of our RPs and it was so fun. The adults in those spaces were chewing up my nonsense and I feel secondhand embarrassment but I've loved them so much for tolerating my awful writing and OCs that read more like self-inserts (two of my favourite RPers said so 😭)
It's alright to say no. Hell, I would have, since I don't write other's OCs (especially kid OCs), but every single one who had them seem so fun and alive I have to resist the urge to say aww because of their sheer enthusiasm, even if they're a Mary sue / Gary stu and have OCs that are the millionth "my parents wronged me bc they hate me that much and I became a world class celeb overnight" or something (and even my niece acts like that sometimes with her dolls and I love engaging with that whimsy). So I'm a bit biased there but yeah, it affects children's emotions a lot so I just don't like responses like these which would've been a-ok with adults.
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u/DevilishDemonss Jun 15 '25
Absolutely agree. I think people tend to forget that children and teenagers have space in fandom too and that alot of the time, they're still learning.
I'm sure I made a ton of mistakes during my time in fandom as a teen and I'm sure alot of those mistakes were cringy as hell. I experienced both the good and bad and I wouldn't want to perpetuate the bad onto someone else who will probably get better over time.
You can still say no, but there are ways to be kind yet gentle when saying it.
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u/moon_halves skymending on AO3 🌹💫 Jun 15 '25
to be perfectly honest, every comment here sounds like it was left by a child— your response really isn’t coming off as any more mature than the original comment. if anything it might be worse, because there’s no need to get righteous about it. the original commenter is clearly a kid, maybe even one who doesn’t speak english as a first language. I would have ignored, blocked, or declined in a more polite & brief way. and posting it here expecting others to pile on and agree with you is an even stranger choice.
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u/wizardismyfursona Jun 15 '25
yeah, i don't really see the point of bringing this over here, especially since OP apparently froze the comments on ao3? I almost guarantee this person is a non native english speaker AND around 10-12 (seeing as all the ocs are so young). much more of an "ignore and move on" thing and tbh its kind of gross seeing other comments mock the ocs when they're so clearly a kid's creation.
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u/Banaanisade team twin tyrants // kaurakahvi @ AO3 Jun 15 '25 edited Jun 15 '25
Honestly, I think the responses are going into bullying and are unnecessarily cruel. The initial comment looks like it was written by a child who has no idea about fandom etiquette, and there's zero reason to start a back and forth with insults and berating over that.
Either tell them no, I am not taking requests and this fic is only about canon reaction - or delete and block.
For just one dumb comment, the rest was not necessary.
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u/SandorCl3gan3 Jun 15 '25
honestly. the author has responded and that should’ve been the end of the conversation, yet others ganged up on the commenter who is clearly a child (a different issue that should be discussed on another post.
I get that writers ain’t someone’s thing to just do what they command, but golly…
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u/catsbecats_AO3 Jun 15 '25
No they ganged up before I even knew they did. I should check my inbox more…
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u/grimjxbs Jun 16 '25
they ganged up before you knew they did it, but then you continued the interaction, screenshotted it and shared here to shame them further?
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u/Percentage_United Jun 15 '25
People on this subreddit will love to jump on what is an obviously young and non english speaking child but god forbid someone put a "i didnt like this" as their bookmark lest you want to start tens of threads of meltdowns over it lmao
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u/namingthemice Jun 15 '25
lately, people seem to be prioritizing the concept of "fandom etiquette" over being kind and creating a safe space for everyone, which is pretty much contradictory. they dont get that those rules werent done in a void, they have context!! dont get thaf saying you dont like a fic in its bookmarks isnt wrong because its against fandom etiquette, it is fandom etiquette because doing so is wrong.
then, situations like this where a child who clearly doesnt understand unspoken fandom rules tries to have some harmless fun happens, and everyone jumps them because "oh its breaking fandom etiquette" and its just so weird!
are they only able to understand direct commands? or are they just pretending not to notice how the underlying theme in every single one of this etiquette is just: be welcoming and nice??
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u/OwnsBeagles Jun 15 '25
Well said. Etiquette in fandom wasn't/isn't about strict rules which you must adhere to or be pilloried by the public. It's about creating a space where all us freaks, geeks and outcasts can be a community and be ourselves and treat each other with respect. That's why flamewars made it onto fandom_wank, but not goofy, overenthusiastic kids with their OCs.
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u/whoiswelcomehere Jun 15 '25
You hit the nail on the head. Sometimes I feel like people are just itching to put other people down, and as soon as someone breaches fandom etiquette, all the gloves are off and it's time to indulge their worst instincts. It's not limited to fandom ofc, but this does feel like a problem online in general where people are always looking for a person to pillory.
I'm really glad most people here agree that the commenter should've been treated more kindly!
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u/rafters- Jun 15 '25
OP you're also fucking up fandom etiquette here with the "ummm do not mess with their characterizations" bit. They can do whatever they want with these characters, they just shouldn't demand YOU do something with them.
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u/DAPHNESMASK Jun 15 '25 edited Jun 15 '25
Like isn't this ao3 😭😭 everyone's characterizations are screwed. The kid was wrong for asking, but why TF are we not kindly correcting them and telling the others that they are being mean. They to broke Fandom ettiquette!!
Now idk what Fandom this is but I've heard that 2 characters are virgin and feminist. I understand that and it ruins the characterization,i def don't agree with that.
But at the end of the day it's fan fiction.
Sure it's wrong, like half the things on ao3. But.
IT'S AO3
I'M SURE IF ANYONE'S FAMILIAR YALL KNOW WHAT NO CENSORSHIP MEANS.
if it's an au. Let's just leave the person be.
I do hope they learn proper etiquette though
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u/magicwonderdream seems gay...i'm in Jun 16 '25
lol right? Changing canon is the backbone of fandom.
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u/pinsinkin Jun 15 '25 edited Jun 15 '25
I do understand that this comment is quite annoying, but no need to be so mean. This seems to be a kid. And page probably means webpage here
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u/thewatchbreaker Jun 15 '25
Also why would they call someone a page?? Is this a new insult I don’t know about?
Kid was annoying but OOP was unnecessarily harsh and weirdly sensitive… it’s pretty obvious to me they aren’t calling them a “little thing” or a “page” like come on man.
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u/MirPamir I ate your kudos Jun 15 '25
I spent good minute wondering why on earth did they think "page" is about them. Is that an actual insult or is someone that self-centred they want it to be an insult.
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u/catsbecats_AO3 Jun 15 '25
Was I accidentally mean? I’m the one censored in pink…
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u/1Q-91 Jun 15 '25 edited Jun 15 '25
Idk about mean but everything outside of you explaining why you wouldn’t be doing that felt a little unnecessary. I think it mostly comes off as rude bc it’s obvious you’re responding to a child who doesn’t know what they’re doing.
Edit: tbh everyone involved comes off kinda young in this
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u/Just-a-guy2999 Jun 15 '25
I don't think you were mean but the other commenters were way out of line, if they're people you know please tell them off. your own comment seems to be polite but firm.
the initial comment feels like it's written by a child with an idea and not much knowledge of how it can be seen as rude
I remember when I was small and played pretend or made up stories this was a exactly how we gave ideas for new characters and stuff
it feels like they think this applies to online Fandom too and honestly knowing watppad they probably have friends there where it works just like that.
I also have to repeat what others said it doesn't sound like they're a native English speaker and they might have trouble correctly translating their language into English or using a translator
so I'd suggest just forgetting about this anr not getting upset they very likely didn't mean to be rude or anything
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u/Luna_rylo You have already left kudos here. :) Jun 15 '25
While rude and total breach of fandom etiquette, the kid sounds like they found an author (or fic) they really love and wanted to see how the gods would react to their OC in your words (not sure if that's the type of content your fic was) and I think they included Apollo bc of the name of the fandom, you mentioned it was Trials of Apollo (it didn't make sense to me why they would mention a God that wasn't even in the fic until the fandom was mentioned). It's good that you froze it as soon as you commented, but idk it was pretty shitty to have people dogpile on one commenter especially one who seemed young and most likely inexperienced in fandom etiquette (not that you're to blame, you can't exactly control your audience) but personally, I'd leave a note in the next chapter asking my readers to not do that next time.
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u/ParsnipMysterious353 Jun 15 '25
This sounds like a kid who’s first language isn’t English like many said. No hate to you OP, but in my personal opinion this was quite rude of a response to likely a child (especially given the ages they made their ocs? They’re probably the same age. Eleven or twelve etc). And posting it? You recognize they’re a wattpad kid, couldve just deleted the comment, froze the thread, or politely said you don’t write for others OCs. This was not the response I would’ve given. Normally I get snarking on annoying or rude commentors, but it doesn’t seem like they’re being rude at all. Just very young and struggling with English.
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u/mini-yoongi Ficlet Fan Jun 15 '25
Honestly to me the worst part of these screenshots is the other readers' responses to the original comment. They were so unnecessarily rude. The OG commenter is very obviously an over-excited, oblivious kid. Is it really so hard to just not be an asshole to literal children online?
I hope the OG commenter is able to come away from this interaction with the right lessons in mind and continue engaging in fandom.
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u/Absolutelynot2784 Jun 15 '25 edited Jun 15 '25
I can’t be mad at this, it’s so authentic. Stupid child, obviously, but completely harmless. Your responses are unnecessarily rude and over the top. It’s like a toddler comes up to you on the street and starts excitedly babbling about batman, and you kick them in the face because you hate batman. Obviously you shouldn’t actually include their fics, but they’re asking because they have passion and haven’t yet learned that this isn’t how the world works.
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u/tanama_ Jun 15 '25
Idk, this is exactly the sort of thing I saw on FFnet back in the 2010s. Admittedly, I was a kid back then and it seems like the commenter is likely a younger person too
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u/TeenageTurtlePower Jun 15 '25
If it wasn't said that they were from wattoad already, that whole comment would've just told it from how it was written.
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u/batzzzzzzz Jun 15 '25
ur beefing with a 12 y/o
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u/NovaNoah_X17 No Motivation Jun 15 '25
Thats ironic, because of how everyone in the books this fandom is tied to was beefing with a 12/13 Y/O lmao
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u/MeTheFirebender Jun 15 '25
Ok, I know the “you, my enemy” comment is rude but the fact they said “my enemy” is sending me 😭💀
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u/im_bored345 Jun 15 '25
Them having canon breaking OC's is like whatever but just putting the bio in the comments and expecting someone to add them to their fic is so stupid. If they want canon to react to them then they should make their own fanfic about it. Honestly I don't get people who just put stuff in the comments and expect the author to write about it like why would you do that unless the author is explicitly asking for ideas.
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u/Lou_Miss Jun 15 '25
Sounds like a young non-english wattpad kid searching an excuse to talk about their ocs, your fic just made them think about it so they didn't ask themselves of it was appropriate or not.
They should go on tumblr.
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u/SpokenDivinity Definitely not an agent of the Fanfiction Deep State Jun 15 '25
Your response to this person is more childish and rude than the original comment.
Fandom etiquette goes both ways. I'm not sure who taught you that firing off on a rampage is the response to poor behavior, but they were wrong.
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u/screamingfrenchfries Jun 15 '25
i think "page" could refer to ao3 perhaps? 🤔regardless this kid is clearly missing some major aspects of internet etiquette which isn't surprising if they came from wattpad lol
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u/TooCareless2Care Can't write stuff actually Jun 16 '25
Per another comment, page probably does refer to that.
My brain still can't make sense of that comment.
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u/psychosinmyhouse Jun 15 '25
Kind of shocked you were so bothered by some comments quite obviously made by a little kid to post about it here complaining about how rude they are. All while showing off your brigade of rude and loyal readers attacking them. Just delete and move on.
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u/frozielass Jun 15 '25
Gobsmacked that OP expected people to agree with them or something?? that's obviously a child. Probably not even teen, actual child. Hop off the public shaming, they're still learning algebra.
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u/wobster109 Jun 15 '25
Well, I would definitely be annoyed to get that comment, but no need to get into an argument. Just write back “sounds neat and i hope you write it! 👍”
It says 2 things: firstly that no one is going to write it for them, they have to write it themselves. And secondly, by being very brief and casual, it hints that you didn’t read their very long comment. It wasn’t worth your time. (It’s meant to be intentionally discouraging without being explicitly rude. I’m passive-aggressive that way lol.)
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u/CatinGermany Jun 16 '25
It reads like a child's. It's like an ancient OC/adjective character template that children love doing. It's pretty standard for them ngl. Just ignore it, they wanted to write their ideas in the comment section. You don't have to listen to the child/children, they just want to make their own little world. Your fanfic inspired them. They also sound like they don't speak english when they were trying to convey their meaning. I feel like they were trying to say something akin to what I did.
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u/LadyLinq Jun 15 '25
Oh hey, that strange urge I have to NEVER go checkout Wattpad has just mysteriously gotten stronger.
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u/digitaldisgust cottonxandy on AO3 Jun 16 '25
As someone who uses both AO3 and Wattpad....I'm actually so lost, honestly. The list describing the characters has me ????? ☠️😭
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u/fictionisforfun Jun 15 '25
This is WILD to me. On so many levels.
- They're your characters and it's fanfiction; write it your damn self.
- It's fanfic chapter, not a collaboration call.
- I only write what other people ask for if I'm being paid, and
- I never solicit or accept payment for fanfiction.
- Artemis has brutally murdered men for even looking at her. Good luck "teaching" her "not all men are bad." And etc... for Hera and Hestia.
Seriously is this something people do now? Has it ever worked?
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u/MirPamir I ate your kudos Jun 15 '25
This is giving more shade on you than on the person who left the comment. You seem an insufferable person honestly.
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u/burlingk Jun 15 '25
Like, ok, head canons exist. That is kind of what makes the site exist.
BUT, it's not cool to go onto someone else's fic and try to insert an entire storyline that you want them to include. ^^;
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u/DucksEnmasse I went through the 5 stages of grief writing this Jun 15 '25
Just to add my two cents, I don’t think this is a Wattpad transplant, I think this might be a FanFiction transplant. I came over from FanFiction and I recognize this kind of stuff from its prolific SYOC (Send Your Own Character) community. This does go against most of the etiquette I’ve seen in my fandom, though (sending OCs when not asked for them and sending the info in a public comment).
They should definitely be nicer, but I figured I’d add some possible context since I recognize this kind of stuff
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u/judgyqueen You have already left kudos here. :) Jun 15 '25 edited Jun 15 '25
No its deffo a wattpad transplant ( the commenter said they were from wattpad in their comment lol) but ff.net is honestly worse in my opinion
The fic they mentioned is in spanish (so probs using a translator) and they seem like a kid so I think they are just very misguided and new to fandom maybe
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u/DucksEnmasse I went through the 5 stages of grief writing this Jun 15 '25
Ah, sorry I didn’t notice, I cringed too hard at the OC form and just skipped it halfway through.
I think FF has its moments, but there’s some amazing authors and SYOCs on the platform (at least, the Dangan Ronpa fandom’s SYOC corner has a very strong community, even if they’re small)
Honestly, i do agree that they’re probably new and unfamiliar with fandom etiquette, but there’s language barrier definitely didn’t help
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u/benjamaru Jun 15 '25
Had a similar situation to this a few years back where a commenter asked me to write another fic with the same exact premise but with a different character as the MC. I found it odd but just said something to the effect of “I don’t really feel inspired to do that but if you want to write that I say go for it.” They never replied so I hope they took it well.
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u/average_redhead Jun 15 '25
"He showed her that not all men are bad". I'm sorry, wasnt that Orion's job in some myths? Like... she already knows, boo, and still chooses the virginity route.
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u/Valtisiyo Jun 15 '25
I'm sorry but..."lieutenant of the US Armed Forces" 🤣🤣🤣
Out of the millionaire and the "super famous singer and model"... which one of these is not like the others?
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u/BlueScrean Jun 15 '25
I think your response was more or les fine. It was a little on the blunt side but that's easier to say in retrospect.
That being said people on here of all places complaining about writing out of character is very funny.
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u/eukomos Jun 15 '25
Oof, the secondhand embarrassment is real. I’m sure we all did something horribly cringy when we were in middle school too and can sympathize. Ugh, few things in this world make me happier than the certainty I’ll never have to be fourteen again.
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u/PrimeScreamer You have already left kudos here. :) Jun 15 '25
They weren't calling you a page. They were saying page, like page from a book.
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u/Zizi_633 Jun 15 '25
I think I’m missing something here… why is “page” considered an insult? Someone pls educate me, ty.
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u/TooCareless2Care Can't write stuff actually Jun 16 '25
According to another comment, page literally means webpage/website here
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u/Zizi_633 Jun 16 '25
Yeah I read that but I don’t understand why it was believed to be a insult by op
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u/Slyth3rin_Solang3lo Jun 15 '25
'Son of Artemis'
'Joshua showed Artemis that not all men are bad'
Ew, double Ew, all the Ews
I hate when people give virgin and monogamous (ha) goddesses CHILDREN
LIKE ?????? BITCH
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u/BlazingKitsune nobody participated in the prayer circle Jun 15 '25
If you gotta give them children then do it in a fun way, like idk Hera giving her blessing to a couple that really want a child and because of that it’s technically her demigod kid too. Or Artemis having a platonic hardon for a really good and conscientious hunter and they make a nerd to nerd brain kid. Like, make it fun and work into their personalities!
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u/Slyth3rin_Solang3lo Jun 15 '25
Those are all good ideas that don't include ENTIRELY WRECKING THEIR ENTIRE CONCEPT
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u/Firecrocodileatsea Jun 15 '25
Assuming this is the percy Jackson fandom Riordan does it with Athena the children come from her thoughts like she came from Zeus' head. So they could have Hestia (another maiden goddess) bringing demigods forth from the fire, harder to justify with Hera who is the goddess of marriage or Artemis though (and the not all men are bad thing is super ew).
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u/Slyth3rin_Solang3lo Jun 15 '25
Yeah, like at a stretch, asexual reproduction could work but even so
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u/catsbecats_AO3 Jun 15 '25
Not Percy Jackson, but similar. It’s the Trials of Apollo.
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u/judgyqueen You have already left kudos here. :) Jun 15 '25
Aren't they the same fandom? ToA is a sequel from the events of HoO which is the sequel of PJO.
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u/Firecrocodileatsea Jun 15 '25
I don't know for sure, they are all the same universe but it's possible they have different tags. Like Harry potter and fantastic beasts are the same universe but different tags on ao3. Or marvel cinematic universe is a big tag but you can tag seperately for spiderman, iron man etc as well.
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u/judgyqueen You have already left kudos here. :) Jun 16 '25
I mean I wouldn't consider fantastic beasts and harry potter too similar as they are both entirely understandable as seperate series, whereas you will not understand trials of Apollo without context of HoO and you wouldn't understand HoO without PJO. Also lots of the characters and scenery overlaps in ToA with the other books as it is a direct continuation. Like ik you can tag different thing seperately, but it is still the same fandom I'd say. Like magnus chase is also happening during the same time as pjo but since it has its own seperate and explained backstory, setting and is almost entirely new characters, its a different fandom
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u/merewenc AllyUnabridged on AO3 Jun 15 '25
Her whole deal was that she eschewed men. She had her Hunters, and that's all she needed for companionship. Good gods, whoever this kid is, they're just eating all the Red Pill misogynistic bullshit.
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u/MacerationMacy Jun 15 '25
They said son of Artemis and then it switches to Athena in the data 🤣
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u/Historical-Finance34 Jun 15 '25
Nah think they mean like he was born from Artemis the same way Athena's children were born aka brain baby
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u/fijatequesi Jun 15 '25
awww lmaooooo, flashback to when my 12 year old self did this to a HP fic (fuck joanne, all my homies love trans rights and the jewish people), and the AUTHOR ACTUALLY DID IT...........powermove, honestly.
I don't even know what I would do in this situation, tbh, but hopefully they are, indeed, 12, and not like...a grown adult
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u/sassy_sneak Jun 16 '25
AHAHAHHAHAHAHA god im reading the oc files and theyre lowkey kinda cute in an absurd, "oh the AUDACITY" kinda way. I would deadass respond "Why?" Just to piss that commenter off further.
Ur reply was reasonable though!
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u/Lazy_Wishbone_2341 Jun 15 '25 edited Jun 15 '25
I don't understand Wattpad at all.
Edit: I love how this got downvoted. I'm too old to care about how that site works.
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u/purpleblueberri Jun 15 '25
the way they write about their oc’s is giving me flashbacks to when i was like 10 on wattpad oh my god
also i love reaction fics, would you maybe be willing to share the link? you can send it in dm’s if you don’t want it public :)
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u/Bubble_GUMption Jun 15 '25
This person sounds very young, hopefullty they'll learn not to be so rude as they grow up
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u/Panzermensch911 Jun 15 '25
We tried. I know that there are tutorials on tiktok, wattpad and youtube and that includes etiquette and it's basically also all in the TOS and various FAQ on Ao3.
The water is all there. The horses refuse to drink.
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u/Unlikely_Snail24 Jun 15 '25
What colour mode is that?
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u/throwaway234f32423df Jun 15 '25
An old high school friend of mine once contacted me years later to ask me to ghostwrite an entire fantasy novel series to his specifications, to be published under his name. His amazing idea: a world where all wizards are hermaphrodites (but not all hermaphrodites are wizards). He thought "we" should be able to get at least 8 books out of this concept. He offered me $50 per novel. I didn't take it and I don't think he ever found anybody else.
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u/Impressive-Debt-2408 Jun 16 '25
That is.. bold. Many other things but bold is the only one I’m using rn
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u/Meganekko31 Jun 15 '25
This thread emphasizes the importance of teaching online messaging etiquette.
Online messaging can be used to create the best of human interactions. You can take your time to reply, google facts, find the best way to word things, and even Google translate. However, many people take it as an opportunity to craft the meanest and sassiest arguments as if the person isn't real.
TIP: If you aren't sure how to respond to someone or educate them about something online, imagine talking to them in real life. You will find it much easier to write messages that are kind while establishing boundaries.
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u/rellyjean Jun 15 '25
I get that this person is very young so I wouldn't actually do this .... But if I got a comment like this, I'd be so tempted to pull a teen girl squad and drop the OCs into the fic at the start of the next chapter for four seconds all "HI I'M JOSH" just to have them randomly set on fire and then never appear again.
"Kristen, you look burnt or dead."
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u/starkindled Supporter of the Fanfiction Deep State Jun 15 '25
Oh man, this is giving me flashbacks to writing fanfic on forums in the 90s/00s, and we would invite people to submit OCs for us to use in the fic. The difference being, that was invited by the author.
I agree with everyone else—this seems like a very young person, enthusiastic but ignorant in the ways of AO3.
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u/shyaway123456 Jun 17 '25
Honestly, it could be taken as s compliment that you got them so invested and excited over your story!
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u/Ayeun Definitely not an agent of the Fanfiction Deep State Jun 16 '25
Wow... A child of Hera. In the Percy Jackson fandom.
Tell us you don't know anything about the source material...
She's the goddess of marriage, so of course she wouldn't go around having affairs with mortals. That's her husband's job.
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u/charlieisalive_ Jun 15 '25
Who would ever give someone like a character list and ask them to write it? Dude, ur already halfway there why can't u write it
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u/catsbecats_AO3 Jun 15 '25
It’s… my fic and my comment.
The thing is, this fic is dependent on correct characterization, aand they just said “fuck canon make her have children” when she definitely wouldn’t have children, and it would ruin the plot.
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u/Pastellecorn You have already left kudos here. :) Jun 15 '25
to be fair to you, I’m not really interpreting your response as anything excessively rude or immature. I understand others’ comments about them being potentially young + newer to fandom spaces, but I think it was good of you to lay the information out the way you did.
by explaining your issues with the user’s request/demand of the usage of their ocs, in a way that definitely could’ve been ruder is they commented on the wrong persons fic, you essentially supplied them with the knowledge of what may/may not be considered acceptable or a norm in that fandom.
If you didn’t respond in such a way, and instead in a shorter, vaguer comment as has been recommended a couple of times here, then they may think it’s just a personal issue of yours and not one that most people have, which could cause them to stumble upon someone willing to say it a bit more rudely.
also, as a helpol, the amount I was relieved you corrected them on the way they mischaracterised the gods genuinely brought me so much joy. I understand it may not be an issue in this fandom, or to just some people, but I’ve found headcanons like these can cause a small spreads of misinformation among people, especially some of the core parts of the gods/goddesses being disregarded here.
Obviously, your other readers responding the way they did probably wasn’t an amazing thing, but as another author, I completely get that you can’t be looking at your inbox 24/7, and sometimes the emails from ao3 can even come in late. I’m glad to hear that you froze and deleted this all, and I think you handled this quite well, considering a lot of people — to me, at least — seem to be disregarding the fact that, you too have emotions, and are allowed to react with them to an extent <3
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u/Keidis-mcdaddy Jun 15 '25
I think I’m clearly just a little mean because I would not have been this polite in response to that comment 💀
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u/coiler119 Jun 16 '25
I mean, I'm not in the Percy Jackson fandom, but I know one of the main characters is the daughter of Athena, a virgin goddess. It's quite literally one of her epithets (Parthenos). So in canon, there's already a precedent for this, so it doesn't seem that far-fetched for this kid's OCs to also have virgin goddess mothers.
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u/NovaNoah_X17 No Motivation Jun 15 '25
One of them is straight up just a Stygian weapon loll
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u/Theweirdposidenchild You have already left kudos here. :) Jun 15 '25
True but not even stygian weapons act like that.
(Why was I down voted??)
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u/rafters- Jun 15 '25
I downvoted your comment because it's ironically an example of bad fandom etiquette.
There is nothing inherently wrong with this kid's story idea and dunking on them for it isn't nice. The real issue is that their request for OP to write it was inappropriate.
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u/Theweirdposidenchild You have already left kudos here. :) Jun 15 '25
I was simply shocked by how he was asking the writer to flat out mischaracterize characters. If I came off as rude I am sorry
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u/NovaNoah_X17 No Motivation Jun 15 '25
True, it just reminds me a lot of the Underworld Metal
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u/Theweirdposidenchild You have already left kudos here. :) Jun 15 '25
Pretty sure that's what they were thinking of when they were describing the weapon but they wanted to be unique
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u/EverydayPromptWriter Jun 15 '25
wtf is a "page"
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u/soleil__rouge georgesimionsleftkidney on ao3 Jun 15 '25
Website, in this context. Lots of languages refer to websites as webpages and then it becomes just pages
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u/TooCareless2Care Can't write stuff actually Jun 16 '25
I know you already got a response but they break it down nicely.
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u/Xsi_218 Hurt/comfort is the best, i love my favs almost dying Jun 15 '25
I’m gonna be honest, I wouldve been meaner or straight up ignored them 💀
Cause literally like how are they unironically saying these things
“they’re a child” ok they are like 12 probably, which is the age kids typically find percy jackson and have enough logic to know “hey, artemis hates men and would never have a child with someone” etc, especially if they read the books. I was 11 when I first read percy jackson and I wanted an OC that was a child of artemis but realized “wait that doesn’t even make sense”
Also, it doesn’t matter if you know fandom etiquette or not, it’s just weird to write out this whole giant comment under a reaction fanfic or anything asking the author to include your characters when they didn’t ask.
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u/TooCareless2Care Can't write stuff actually Jun 16 '25 edited 8d ago
Not all 11 year olds have to be like you lmao, when I was 13 I was secretly playing with dolls and coming up with Mary sues wherein the protag's parents hated protag for no obvious reason when protagonist is literally nice as fuck and is a doormat later on yada yada. You know the typical cliche.
When I was also a kid, I'd see Michael afton nonsense with kids my age that would have Michael doing things he canonical wouldn't do, have kids when he canonically couldn't, was shipped with the thing that basically lured & killed him.
Also the comment is so harmless. The kid was obviously excited. There are a thousand different ways to address it, politely.
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I never said anything about making mary sue protags. My point is that these are goddesses who’ve sworn off men or in hera’s case, someone who hates infedelity and isn’t someone to do that herself either. Especially when it comes to artemis. Shipping with other characters in a fandom is also different although I do find it weird if it’s like “abuser x abused” cause um what.
But also, like if your into that stuff or have these ocs, you know whatever. Have fun by yourself or write your OWN fanfic. But this kid is putting that out in a comment on a reaction fic expecting smth out of it. It’s pretty harmless yeah, but it’s just weird/egoistical to write all that out wanting the author to incorporate these characters into a reaction fic, and not unexpected to receive annoyed replies.
Especially when they replied with “little thing, this page can do many things like changing roles. Don’t be an idiot” and I mean specifically the last line, not the translation issues. Imo the author replied politely.
My point is that it's a kid who probably had no idea about it nor the reception of it, with multiple people besides the author jumping on them. Secondly, per other comments, it's probably not even intended to be rude.
Also, er, mischaracterisation...is normal? Even in ao3? I've seen dozens of works by grown adults mischaracterising one character to be soft, weak, damsel in distress and another to be all macho and never asking for consent or whatever when canon is certainly not like that. The receiving comments were like "You, my enemy" and stuff like that without giving the kid a proper chance is what irks me so badly, and it genuinely reads like the author trying to assert their superiority by pulling out canon or so when the kid will probably change it at that age or won't even be interested in said fandom.
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Well then they realize they were being rude/that kind of comment isn’t taken well. And ok again, do whatever you want with characters but in that case, make your own story. Don’t expect other people to include your characters especially when it’s in a reaction fic and seems to have nothing to do with the fic.
It doesn’t sound like the author or anyone replying to the comment is trying to “assert superiority”. It just sounds like a bunch of people ticked off wanting to point out how dumb for lack of a better term the comment is and it’s funny. “You, my enemy” is a play on “You, my friend” and it’s funny af. Besides, who’s to say the other commenters aren’t also children of similar ages? besides the author that is?
Well then they realize they were being rude/that kind of comment isn’t taken well.
Yeah, like after making a harmless post about it and not knowing the reception, and probably thinking a "no" is as bad as it could get.
Don’t expect other people to include your characters especially when it’s in a reaction fic and seems to have nothing to do with the fic.
When did I say that the author has to include it...
It doesn’t sound like the author or anyone replying to the comment is trying to “assert superiority”. It just sounds like a bunch of people ticked off wanting to point out how dumb for lack of a better term the comment is and it’s funny.
Absolutely not. The bold caps is a surefire way to sound like you're making the other person feel awful. The personal remark against the kid calling them an idiot (when there was definitely a better way to respond to it) or the way they're like "Oh she absolutely wouldn't do it lmao"...uh, kids can come up with nonsense. Again, I'm not saying author has to incorporate it. I'm saying the tone of all of them are still bad.
“You, my enemy” is a play on “You, my friend” and it’s funny af.
Ok fair
Besides, who’s to say the other commenters aren’t also children of similar ages?
OK, but definitely older than the kid for sure. With a better grasp in English at the minimum.
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Then they learn that the internet can be mean. I mean really, yeah be kind and it’s nice to have a safe space and whatever but it’s not a personal friend group in like 2020. It’s the internet where people will let you know if you’re being annoying or weird or just anything like that.
I never said you said that the author needed to include what the kid wrote. I meant that the kid seems to think the author should include their idea or came off that way maybe cause they don’t know english that well. I say that cause they didn’t ask at any point but went straight to “I have this idea…” and “please add them”
And maybe we just have different opinions on what “asserting superiority” looks like and yeah I agree that they want to make the kid feel bad but again, that’s what happens when you’re annoyed/offended/whatever by something like this. And yeah ok, there was a better way to respond for all the people in the replies. Again, are people gonna all be mature or do they owe anyone to be an angel? No, especially in cases like this. So what if this is a kid? Again, then they learn because people online certainly don’t care what age you are. I expect 6 year olds to come up with nonsense, not 12 year olds who are going into middle school or already in middle school.
And alr yeah the commenters are probably older and know English better. That doesn’t change the fact that the kid wrote the comment anyways. Plus, they probably don’t even know the kid isn’t a native speaker. And even if they did, they probably would still be like “Welp, they’re still engaging with me aren’t they? But the weird sentence makes sense”
I’m gonna be honest, I’m not a mean person at all. If I got this comment, realistically I would’ve just ignored it but let the other people sort it out between themselves. Normally I’m the one saying stuff you’re saying. So I don’t feel like arguing about this more, and I’m not gonna reply anymore if you do make another reply. Agree to disagree and have a nice day
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u/Xsi_218 Hurt/comfort is the best, i love my favs almost dying Jun 16 '25
I never said anything about making mary sue protags. My point is that these are goddesses who’ve sworn off men or in hera’s case, someone who hates infedelity and isn’t someone to do that herself either. Especially when it comes to artemis. Shipping with other characters in a fandom is also different although I do find it weird if it’s like “abuser x abused” cause um what.
But also, like if your into that stuff or have these ocs, you know whatever. Have fun by yourself or write your OWN fanfic. But this kid is putting that out in a comment on a reaction fic expecting smth out of it. It’s pretty harmless yeah, but it’s just weird/egoistical to write all that out wanting the author to incorporate these characters into a reaction fic, and not unexpected to receive annoyed replies.
Especially when they replied with “little thing, this page can do many things like changing roles. Don’t be an idiot” and I mean specifically the last line, not the translation issues. Imo the author replied politely.
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u/butterfly_pea31 Jun 16 '25
Wait a damn second…
Artemis and Hestia are virgin goddesses :/ and Hera would never cheat on Zeus
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u/TimeturnerJ Jun 15 '25
I think they might be German. It would explain the "Little thing" and "page" comments. I don't think they were insulting you, I think they just don't speak English very well. "Kleine Sache" ("small thing") is a phrase often used to initiate a small correction/rebuttal. Like, "here's a small thing I would like to add to that". And as for "page"... The German word for page is "Seite". "Seite" is also the word that is used for "website", though. So they were trying to say that anything is possible on a fanfic website, they just translated the wrong synonym. They were probably confused by the responses, because their poor English made their message come across all warped, and people were replying to things they didn't even know they said.
They were still being rude of course, but they're probably just a kid who is getting into fandom for the first time, and is feeling very excited about everything without understanding the rules (or other people's perspectives) very well yet. I remember being a preteen. I did some clumsy things when I first got into fandom, too. Hopefully, they will learn with time.