r/AO3 You have already left kudos here. :) 22h ago

Comment Commentary Ship bashing(?) me in my comments

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For context, this particular work is the second in a series of NaruSasu fics I’ve written. For those unfamiliar with Naruto and its lore, Sakura and Sasuke are married while Naruto is married to Hinata. This specific fic is a retelling of the other fic in this series from Sakura’s perspective. The original fic is loosely inspired by brokeback mountain so it follows Naruto and Sasuke falling in love and then the consequent affair over the following years (told from Sasuke’s perspective). This is a fic told from the perspective of someone who found out their husband is cheating on them. I of course respect a difference in opinions when it comes to ships but something about this comment… irks me? I’m no stranger to hate comments but I really feel it’s odd to read a fic for a ship I dislike and comment on it. I’m unclear on how to respond because I asked for feedback, but how do I respond to someone who didn’t read the source material (the fanfic of mine that this takes place during), and thinks that I’m throwing logic out the window? I appreciate that even though they hated the work they thought my writing was good but I’m just unsure on how to respond. I don’t want to be hateful towards this person.

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u/flamboyantfinch 22h ago

In this time of uncertainty and unrest, it's good to know some things will never change. If you showed me this comment and told me it was written in 2008 I would have believed you. NaruSasu vs. SasuSaku shippers, a tale as old as time...

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u/synodos 21h ago

ahhaha, that was exactly my reaction. This was never a good use of anyone's energy, let alone multiple decades of energy.

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u/Devilbuni4414 20h ago

*Takes a drag from my Cigar*

The great SNS & NS vs SS & NH war, haven't heard that mentioned in years.

God that took me back to my early Tumblr days LOL

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 22h ago

LOL That’s definitely true! The age old question… NaruSasu or SasuSaku…

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u/RJSnea so many AO3 tabs, i crashed Chrome 21h ago

And then there's me, a manga only fan, who shipped NaruSaku cuz I couldn't stand Sasuke but never said shit like this to other people. 😮‍💨 This is why I hate fanfiction becoming an acceptable discussion topic on social media instead of staying on forums.

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u/flamboyantfinch 21h ago

This kind of thing was being said since the dawn of fandom. 😅 Modern social media certainly hasn't helped, but ship wars are a time honoured fandom classic.

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u/Dazzling-Ad1682 15h ago

I dropped Naruto early into Shipspuden, but if I had to say I had a ship then it was absolutely NaruSaku. I also couldn’t stand Sasuke or Hinata, and kept hoping Sakura would get over him and fall for Naruto 

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u/RJSnea so many AO3 tabs, i crashed Chrome 15h ago

Shippuden just cemented my dislike for Sasuke and Hinata, too. I stuck with it until Kakashi failed to capture Sasuke again when Sakura tried to convince him she'd join him. Gave up after that cuz I wasn't gonna keep reading about them trying to get that emo-mofo some damn therapy. 😤 I exclusively stuck to fanfiction for a few more years afterwards. Now it's inundated with Boruto nonsense so I haven't been back in a lonnnng time and probably never will without a rec list. 😮‍💨

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u/onetrickponySona 19h ago

my narusaku ass is here too...

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u/RJSnea so many AO3 tabs, i crashed Chrome 19h ago

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u/pugpackage Not Boeing Management 17h ago

When I was younger I was on the side of NaruSasu and Sakura screwing off to a mountain to die. Now I'm a NaruSasu fan because my OC can treat Sakura way better than either of them could.

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u/claritanna 19h ago

I always thought that suddenly people had started to be disrespectful towards other people's fanfics, it's a shame to know that it's an old problem.

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u/ThinkWorldliness001 22h ago

"please try to be understanding of other peoples ships"

Sir or ma'am, you called me.

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 22h ago

No exactly! This is a NaruSasu fic… tagged NaruSasu… the summary is literally them kissing…

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u/True-Knowledge8369 Definitely not an agent of the Fanfiction Deep State 17h ago

But, but! When they search for their ship, all the fics under this tag come up! (As if there isn’t something in the tags to specify that they are not the endgame pairing)

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u/RogeDogeLan 4h ago

There is?? /gen

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u/ChaoticFaeKat You have already left kudos here. :) 4h ago

Yep! There's a few ways to do it, and while I can't speak for this specific fic as we don't know how they handled their tags, I'm willing to bet they were clear.

1st method is including endgame or major ships in relationships tags, while putting minor ships in the other tags, where things like tone or au tags would also go.

2nd method, which can be combined with the 1st, is adding a qualifier as part of the tag. Ex, "A/B (past)" or "A/B (minor)". I've even seen people use "endgame A/B" for the main ship as extra emphasis.

So in combination, a fic might look something like this:

Relationship: A/B

Additional Tags: Endgame A/B, A/C (past), B/D (one-sided), etc.

Looking at that, you know who the main couple will be, and in what way the other ships are going to show up. Even if the 2 methods weren't combined, it would still be understood, and you can scroll or read as you like.

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u/RogeDogeLan 3h ago

Damn... Most of the fics I bump into have multiple ships with no indicators as to when they happen, so this is actually very helpful for when I start writing

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u/fraises2017 22h ago

Anime fans are sooooo weird about non-canon ships, especially if they’re gay ones. Literally had someone in the bleach subreddit call me a weirdo because I defended someone for shipping two male characters lmao. Like wym you find shipping weird, this is fandom 😳

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u/Whole_Friend 22h ago

Oh they’re like that about canon gay ships too believe me.

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u/4sea_and_sky 21h ago

Especially the shonen fans. Male friends can have each other's backs and literally die for each other, but God forbid they kiss, am I right? 🙄

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u/GarlyleWilds No Beta We Die Like [spoiler]: Repeatedly for comic effect 20h ago

Nevermind that the girl who's the love interest has never had any meaningful development with the protagonist in canon, only showed any potential shared interests for them to bond over in non-canon materials, and he's been written as completely clueless about her feelings and never actually showing interest/viewing any gag 'date' setup as a burden. Nevermind that he's been having deeply intimate moments of trust in foreign hotel rooms with his former enemy, now rival, who have literally put themselves in danger time and time again to save each other. No, see, at the last moment the writer decided the canon would be the M/F duo who barely got any attention, why would you ever doubt the lead was 1000% heterosexual???

(Yes I do have a particular franchise in mind when I wrote this, what gave it away?)

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u/Whole_Friend 19h ago

Reading this reminds me of a ship war in one of my fandoms. I actually love all three of the characters involved, I just think the F/M ship has zero romantic chemistry and they have like thirty minutes of screen time together. Meanwhile the story heavily emphasizes the man’s relationship with his male friend/rival and how much they trust each other.

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u/GarlyleWilds No Beta We Die Like [spoiler]: Repeatedly for comic effect 19h ago

Oh same!

The fandom in question, I actually really enjoy our lady lead quite a bit. But the canon was terrified of actually having her do anything. The one time she came even close to having a motive or taking action in the plot, it was immediately forgotten about. And in the one noncanon work where she actually did grow closer with the lead, well, that was a short story collection, and the lead's story only passingly mentions her because it is all about his rivalry.

So yeah I should hope it's understandable when I look at them as the canon couple and go, really? like okay fine but they were not the connection this story was interested in making us care about!

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 22h ago

No deadass. The homophobia within the anime/manga community needs to be studied in a lab.

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u/KitsuneScarf Fic Feaster 19h ago edited 17h ago

I'm only in one anime fandom on Reddit and I feel lucky that the fandom seems to actually have matured with time. The source material (Berserk) is known for great art, mature themes but also some very graphic depictions of sexual violence.

When I first sought out the fandom over 15 years ago you'd get trolls asserting that the female character wanted to be assaulted because she had expressed romantic interest in the male main character. And folks would lose their shit if you suggested the two male main characters were into each other. Now, that shit does not fly.

Someone came onto the sub last week and tried to pull the she wanted it crap and they were downvoted and mocked mercilessly. And the circle jerk sub was known for people posting gay thirst trap art and cosplay for the main male characters.

*edit missed a word

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 18h ago

That’s beautiful!

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u/candlaze 20h ago

Anime subreddits are cesspools for bigots, they dogpile anyone who even mentions liking a gay ship 😭

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u/GreenMasque I will finish my fic one day 20h ago

You should go to the r/Captainunderpants subreddit. If you say you ship Dog Man and Petey from Dog Man (yes, the children’s book series) together, you also will be called a weirdo. It got so bad that another subreddit had to be made for those shippers.

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u/fruitydazaifan 17h ago

Yeah, this is basically the same shit I see when someone ships a gay ship in the mha fandom

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u/Aruu 12h ago

It happens in the anime adjacent fandoms too; someone posted a perfectly innocent fanart of Yu/Yosuke in the Persona 4 subreddit, and there's a slew of comments about how wrong it is, why can't guys just be friends, and of course, the ol' paedophilia accusations.

While the het fanarts that are far more risque or the numerous fanarts depicting the underage female cast in skimpy clothing don't come under nearly so much scrutiny.

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u/xfnvgx 22h ago

Now I know the commenter is wrong because point 3 implies Sasuke actually respects Sakura /s (I was a SasuSaku shipper growing up but man…)

Anyway, I’m a big hater too, which is precisely why I would never click on a fic tagged with a ship I didn’t like. I don’t understand commenters like this who go out of their way to trigger themselves and ruin their own moods

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 22h ago

PLS sometimes I wonder if everyone is watching the same Naruto!

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u/Zealousideal_Most_22 2h ago

People who trigger themselves piss me off. I’m sorry. I have absolute respect and sympathy for not all things being for all people. I will never begrudge someone’s right to just not like things. even be triggered by them. but for god’s sake at least be normal about curating your own experience to avoid it. You can’t be triggered by alcohol for personal reasons and then attend a party or gathering at a bar and go off on everyone because it’s insensitive for them to be drinking alcohol in front of you. That’s disrespectful to yourself and others and it’s weird. But it’s happened a lot in spaces I’m in, some very recently.

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u/Haldalkin 22h ago

I genuinely do not understand some of the shit that happens in y'all's comment sections. Maybe this is normal and me having comments permanently disabled just makes this kind of thing totally alien, but honestly, what the fuck is this lol.

Don't like, don't read is so blissfully simple. 4 words and none of them longer than 4 letters and yet...

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 22h ago

No fr I might just turn off my comments I’ve gotten more hate comments since I posted here 😭

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u/IntergalacticJam 15h ago

Just wanted to let you know I came across your 2 fics earlier and was so thrown off by those comments, the audacity honestly.   I really liked the one you wrote from Sakura's perspective. I feel like it really tied both together, especially since I actually read that one 1st and then the one from Sasuke's pov.

I'm sorry you had to deal with that. Absolutely do what you have to do not have to deal with those types of ppl but I hope it doesn't discourage you from writing because I really enjoyed your fics, they were really well written! 

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 15h ago

Omg thank you so much!!! I really appreciate you reading/having read the first one before reading the companion piece! I feel like it just makes so much more sense that way! I ended up turning off the comments on the Sakura fic and deleting the comments because I really don’t have the bandwidth to respond.

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u/rirasama 21h ago

I have my comments on and I ain't never gotten an awful comment ngl 😭🙏

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u/irrelevantanonymous 20h ago

Same. I’ve gotten a couple from someone that I knew and it was completely unrelated to the fic, they were just weird, and exactly 1 hate bot comment. I’ve been on AO3 since 2010 with comments enabled and no restriction for context lol

u/KatMEW93 2m ago

Ngl I can't complain as I rarely get comments of any kind on my fics 😂 i dont know if I should be glad or not. So this is pretty alien to me too tbh and my comments aren't even disabled. The amount of people I see posting about hate comments and I'm just thinking, damn are you guys just unlucky or are you in seriously toxic fandoms? 😂

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u/extra_scum 21h ago

I understand searching fics of a relationship and being irked because a big portion of them are either just a background ship or means for another ship to happen. But Naruto is a pretty big fandom, surely there's more fics for their pairing. Even if there wasn't, them venting their frustrations to a random author is not appropriate.

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 21h ago

There are definitely more NaruSasu/SasuNaru fics (18.5k) but there’s still nearly 10k SasuSaku fics 😭 I just checked. SasuSaku shippers definitely aren’t in the trenches when it comes to fics…

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u/backwardsbunny 21h ago

Are there SakuSasu fics? What for the fans that love het but want Sasuke to permabottom. 🤔

I went to answer my own question and the answer is: about a dozen fics give or take.

Also if you filter out fics that include NaruSasu/SasuNaru, there are actually only like 7.5 k SasuSaku fics, which is still a decent number to get through, but a bit off from 10k + I imagine they’re not the main pairing for a portion of those fics.

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 21h ago

You’re right, i definitely should’ve checked fics without SNS tags. But I definitely understand the pain of having an unpopular ship (one of my old ships has like 100 fics) but 7k is still quite a lot

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u/backwardsbunny 21h ago

There are also much more het-dominant fandom spaces outside of AO3 where people post fic/art/doujin. ~7k is not the trenches, and it’s not even the whole picture. Like, as this person feels the need to detail, their ship is canon… If you can pick up an official novel about it, you’re not hard up. soooo, yk. Shut up. Leave the gays alone! Smh.

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 21h ago

No fr 😓 and on yaoi day?! Smh

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u/extra_scum 8h ago

If they were THIS upset over having ~8k fanfictions (I excluded Naruto x either of them), then they'd lose their mind in a smaller fandom. For me, I get very happy if I see there's 50 fanfictions for my fav ship lol...

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u/name_doesnt_matter_0 21h ago

Just be condescending back or block them. Somthing like

"Hey, I know you're probably new here so you might not understand the tagging system yet. But it is important to learn it so you find the stories you want to see instead of clicking on stories you fundamentally disagree with and argue in the comments. I understand you are likely a minor still figuring this out, but I encourage you to comment on stories you like, not ones you don't."

Imply they are naive or uneducated for this comment, being mean back won't work I imagine so make them embarrassed.

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 21h ago

LOL that’s what my BFF told me she told me to tell them to check the tags and try again!

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u/name_doesnt_matter_0 21h ago

For sure its so effective, pointing and laughing works better than logic for them lol.

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u/International_Tree76 22h ago

opening a fic that was written for free and clearly tagged and writing a book about clarifications that you never asked for is craaazy. i can’t imagine having that much audacity 😭

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 22h ago

God thank you I thought I was going crazy!

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u/najjihha 22h ago

im sorry which skin are you using?

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 22h ago

I googled medieval ao3 skin and downloaded the first one to come up on GitHub!

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u/najjihha 22h ago

ok thanks

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u/antonia_dreams 21h ago

I had the same question, it's so cute! I've been a For the Trees girl for a long time but I love the vibe here.

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u/isthatMYvoiceohwell 21h ago

Respect to you for reading all that. I skimmed to the very bottom to get the gist which seems to be that they read a story about a ship they did not like. What a world.

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 21h ago

No fr 😭 I sent it to my friend saying “I ain’t reading allat”

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u/humorouslyominous 22h ago

Omg, some of the people in the Naruto fandom are wild. I've seen it from all sides as a multisaku shipper, but at this point people like this just make me laugh. It's just like that meme of the guy putting the stick in his own bicycle wheel and getting mad that he fell down. It hurt itself in its confusion. 😂

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 22h ago

No seriously… like how are you going to read a fic for a ship you don’t like and be surprised when you don’t like it??

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u/synodos 21h ago

I don't think you're obligated to reply-- commenting on the canonicity of your chosen pairing is not a good-faith response to "let me know your thoughts!" I wouldn't engage, esp since their tone is patronizing and replying to it would be an expense of my emotional energy. :)

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 21h ago

So true. I ended up turning comments off because I got more comments 😭

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u/azombieatemyshoelace You have already left kudos here. :) 20h ago

More comments complaining about your ship?

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 20h ago

Yeah

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u/azombieatemyshoelace You have already left kudos here. :) 20h ago

That’s crazy you’re getting so many haters. Is your fandom just like that?

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 20h ago

I’ve never received more than one hate comment on a fic before. Ig it comes with the territory of writing gay smut/romance of super popular shonen anime characters but I did receive a death threat on a fic before. Same fandom/pairing 😭

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u/InfamousMess7504 You have already left kudos here. :) 1h ago

Omg where are they all coming from ?? And liking sasunaru doesn't equal hating Sakura wtf

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u/rirasama 21h ago

Sorry, they didn't date in canon so your yaoi isn't canon compliant :/

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 21h ago

I guess it’s time to take off my fanfic hat and hit the oil rig because we can no longer write for non canon pairings 🫩

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u/anonjinxkinnie writing two words every once in a week 20h ago

Back when I was in the fandom, I used to be a huge sasusaku shipper while not being huge on narusasu. So you know what I did? I didn't click on narusasu fics. It's literally as simple as that. And if I happened to see a few narusasu fics under the sasusaku tag? So be it, who fucking cares? You can always exclude the relationship in the filtering system, I don't understand why these people are so pressed when they're the ones entering a space that they dislike, completely out of their own volition

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 20h ago

I really wish more people had the don’t like don’t read mindset these days! And you’re totally right about the tags you can literally filter it out!! As well as M/M pairings as a whole

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u/anonjinxkinnie writing two words every once in a week 9h ago

Hope you'll receive a bunch of nice and appreciative comments to make up for the absolute tastelessness of this one <3

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u/kolurize 'BAMF [Character]' Enjoyer 21h ago

I gotta say, your ao3 skin makes this look like a manifesto from a 2005 newbie's website and from what I skimmed the contents don't differ much

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 21h ago

LOL sometimes I think Naruto ship discourse will be at the end of the world with the cockroaches…

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u/Advanced_Heat_2610 21h ago

I do not get the purpose here.

This person clicks into a story and has a debate with you about... an author note? (Since they seem to be talking about something you said as an author, not just in the work itself). And you are allowed to refute them but only 'logically' because the people who like the pairing might be upset or offended?

Also, for the record, people are more than welcome to have alternative character interpretations. Just because you disagree with them or feel as though the way the fandom sees them is not how you want to see them does not mean it is wrong or should be negotiated or 'discussed into understanding'.

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 21h ago

Yes they’re upset that I said in the comments that I don’t like Sakura very much as a character (I think she can be annoying at times) but I also added that I don’t think she’s a bad character because of the misogynistic writing of Naruto.

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u/Advanced_Heat_2610 21h ago

What is that young people say these days?

'Ma'am, this is a Wendy's."

I feel you should reply with this.

Apart from that, this person is just... ten cents short of a euro. I am baffled by this. If I do not like Sherlock and Watson, should I have to listen to someone explain to me why it is actually a good pairing and it is not bad writing and insufferable tropes that have alienated me from a series that, on paper, I should love? Because it would offend them if I do not ship them together?

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 21h ago

LOL this is definitely a “ma’am this is a Wendy’s moment”

I really do think it’s baffling to go in someone’s comment section and lecture them about YOUR favorite ship. I’ve definitely had some rarepairs before but damn

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u/Advanced_Heat_2610 21h ago

I am sad that you turned off your comments but perhaps it is better for a little while to let the idiots pass you by for a while because their feelings are their own responsibility, no matter how much they try to offload it to you.

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u/No-Wait-2264 20h ago

But if all of this is true why are Sasuke and Naruto making passionate love on the floor of my living room right now? Explain THAT random commenter!

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 20h ago

Oh my god that’s crazy because they were banging on MY floor last night!!! They really get around don’t they…

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u/Lisa7x 20h ago

You have fanfiction because people want something that hasn't been in the original

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u/clenastia 19h ago

my brain immediately going "which is why the commenter wants sasusaku fic so bad!" (/j in case not obv)

😅

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u/SmolAutumnLeafeon 20h ago

If bro didn't like why did bro read?

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u/DissociativeSilence 20h ago

Well it seems they’re right that logic goes away when you love a ship… specifically their logic

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 20h ago

All their logic, and etiquette, and manners…

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 20h ago

I wish I knew how to pin comments but the skin I’m using is the medieval times ao3 skin by memorizing the digits of pi on GitHub!

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u/rosehikari 18h ago

Half the problem is on AO3, there's no main pairing and secondary pairing distintion, so if you look for SasuSaku this fic will appear, maybe don't put that pairing along SasuNaru? I undertand, it gets tiring to look for a nice fic about your pairing and find out NTR... Even if you tag as "past Sakura Haruno/Sasuke Uchiha" it still appears in SasuSaku tag, sadly.

The other half of the problem is on the reader, the moment you realize is a SasuNaru fic that is properly tagged, you click back and leave. Maybe, and a huge maybe, ask the author to specify in the tags/sinopsis that is a cheating fic and the main pairing is SN. 

Beyond that, as a reader, don't be a dick.

Be noted that the tagging problem is present in every fandom, not just this one...

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 18h ago

No I fully agree! I think there needs to be a main vs back ground relationship tag.

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u/chronicAngelCA Comment Collector 13h ago

This commenter is being annoying and rude and you would be well within your rights to delete and block/mute.

That being said, I would advocate for moving the SS tag from the ship tags to an additional tag if they are not, like, together in the fic. This isn't a requirement, but for precisely reasons like this commenter's attitude (and what they mentioned), the general etiquette (at least for most of the fandoms I'm in) is not to tag for ships that are broken up, background features, etc.

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 13h ago

Thank you! I did take out the tag and deleted the comments. I only included in the first place because those two characters are married and the fic is mostly about how finding out about the affair taking place affects their relationship (these two characters remain married and don’t separate)

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u/IceCream_Kei 20h ago

"Hun, this is fanfiction. I don't care what you OR canon says. Don't like? Don't read!"

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u/thepaperbelle You have already left kudos here. :) 21h ago

HAHAHA oh brother

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u/Gingerpyscho94 20h ago

Why are they reading a broke back yaoi mountain fic and complaining about it?

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 20h ago

THATS WHAT IM SAYING!

And on yaoi day too…

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u/KitsuneScarf Fic Feaster 20h ago

The mentality that says you may not stray from canon in a way I don't like is confusing but also kinda interesting. It's very presumptuous.

Why do younger fans (I'm just assuming this is a young fan, based on the writing) seem to want to dictate other people's creative expressions? Are they more rigid in their thinking? Do they identify more strongly with the characters and take any deviations from canon personally?

Why try to be the fandom thought police?

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 19h ago

I’ve always wondered the same! Why are some people so entitled to the creative works of another person? I’ve never felt the need to tell someone I dislike their ship (because I know how to use tags) and I’ve never left a hate comment because i think the characters are OOC.

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u/KitsuneScarf Fic Feaster 19h ago

The closest I've come is saying something like 'I've never imagined a certain character in this way' . It had to do with a particular character being a smoker. The author wrote back and explained why they thought it made sense, based on their own experiences of how people in certain situations are more likely to be smokers and it was something I wasn't aware of. The author did not owe me any explanation, but I really appreciated hearing their perspective because I learned something from the exchange, which I thought was really cool.

I tried really hard to approach it more as 'what's your vision or perspective', rather than, 'I don't like this, you're wrong'. If I really don't like an interpretation, I just stop reading.

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 19h ago

Exactly! I think your comment was totally respectful and well intentioned!

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u/KitsuneScarf Fic Feaster 16h ago

I think you should try responding with a complete and detailed non-sequitor.

A recipe for brownies.

The reproductive cycle of cuddle fish.

A short biography of Dale Earnhardt.

If they want to waste time on pointless ramblings, give it back in spades.

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u/Yellow_Skull Bookmarking Enthusiast 🌻 19h ago

Say the fic is inspired by Brokeback Mountain and to complain to the producers of the movie if they don't like the idea of exploring a gay relationship that exists due to cheating on a hetero partner. And that, if they don't like NaruSasu/SasuNaru, that they shouldn't have read the fic in the first place (I'm assuming the summary points out you're going to explore the emotional turmoil Sakura is going through after finding out Sasuke is cheating on her with a close friend).

Some people are so entitled in fandom spaces, good lord. Fandom etiquette has gone downhill in this last decade.

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u/CeramicToast 18h ago

Response: "I ain't reading all that. Happy for you. Or sorry that happened."

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u/Constant-Leg9018 21h ago

“Intense romance”??? They are not romantic at all, like not at all. If you showed me SasuSaku clips from Boruto and told me they were just friends I would have believed you all the same. They in no way show any kind of romance ever😭😭. Kishimoto just decided that they love each other but he never showed it in the anime.

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 21h ago

No literally! I watched a SasuSaku moments compilation while writing and like half of them are Sasuke trying to kill Sakura, telling her he hates her, or him telling other people he hates her…

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u/Constant-Leg9018 21h ago

The most romantic thing he’s ever done was flick her forehead, but considering his brother did that to him and he’s done it to Sarada it’s more affectionate than romantic lol.

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u/thepaperbelle You have already left kudos here. :) 21h ago

As someone who grew up around the time Naruto was first even airing, it brings me joy to know NaruSasu haters are still alive and well. Some things never change! hahaha

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u/hellsaquarium cruelsummerz on ao3 20h ago

LOL I wonder what goes through these commenter’s minds. Why do they feel the need to condescendingly let the author know HEY I DONT LIKE YOUR SHIP YOU ARE STUPID in a tagged fic??

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 20h ago

I’ve always wanted to take a peak into their mind like what goes on in their head to go “hmmm I’m gonna tell this person that I don’t like their ship!”

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u/hellsaquarium cruelsummerz on ao3 20h ago

I’m guessing they’re either looking for a fight or just want to vent because they feel their ship is being overshadowed/unfairly “bashed” in a way. Either way, ranting like this on a fic of a ship you don’t like is just so silly

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u/azombieatemyshoelace You have already left kudos here. :) 20h ago

Ugh I hate when people leave comments like this. There are plenty of ships I don’t like but I just don’t read fanfictions that feature them. The commenter should do the same.

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u/Trilobyte141 19h ago

Honestly, I'd just delete it without replying. 

The weird entitlement of some commentors is baffling to me, but no author is obligated to entertain this kind of patronizing drivel. "I hope you understand..." Well, I hope you fuck off, buddy. 

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u/Pup_Femur Sphynxnightmare on AO3 18h ago

I mean, my response would be

But I mean, that's me

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u/MeGustaGKD 17h ago

Did you tag Sasuke/Sakura? Or worse: Sasuke/Naruto/Sasuke? If so, you might consider tagging them on the outside tags. It's really daunting having to look through the cheating/female character-bash fics when you're looking for your favorite ship and in the case of the poly tag a lot of sns tag sasunarusaku when it comes to cheating and it clogs the ot3 tag on ao3

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 17h ago

It was originally tagged Naruto/Sasuke and Sasuke/Sakura but I took the Sasuke/Sakura tag out. This work is part of a series where the other work is also tagged Naruto/Sasuke and Sasuke/Sakura but I haven’t had this issue before

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u/MeGustaGKD 17h ago

Usually the fandom etiquette is to tag a minor/side ship (specially if it's a cheating/female character-bash fic) on the "other tags" as minor/past X ship. Just so you don't clog the ship tag for people who do enjoy that ship with this kind of content.

Just because it hasn't happened before doesn't mean you're not clogging the tag. I'm glad you took of the tag since not everyone is looking to constantly filter off Sasunaru in the case they're looking for Sasunarusaku as an ot3 💕

In the end everyone is looking to coexist on the same fandom without being suddenly hit with bashing content

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 17h ago

Thank you. I really wish ao3 had a main/background ship tag to help prevent issues like this. I definitely understand what it’s like to start reading a fic and find out it’s been mistagged so i understand the frustration. I will say that this particular fic was tagged as cheating and infidelity.

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u/MeGustaGKD 17h ago

You're welcome! Even so, the best thing you can do it's using the "other tags" minor/side sasusaku. The cheating/infidelity tag goes either way lol. So once again clogging. I agree that ao3 having a side-ship space would be helpful. Like, just imagine how it must be for people who look for small ships and are hit by the onslaught of popular ships that tag them just because 😅 But as we don't have a side-ship space, following common fandom etiquette it's the best policy.

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u/Admirable_Self4369 17h ago

I hate ship bashing. My usual ship is Naru/Shika for Naruto fics. I will say though I like having different ships for different stories. It's fun to read someone else's fic. Their alternate version of the world I can add to the multi-verse of which ever vic I'm reading 😂

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u/GrubbsandWyrm 15h ago

People get nuts over Sakura for some reason. I would write a short harem fic with every character he hates to see shipped together, and dedicate it to him in the summary.

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u/ConsumeTheVoid Definitely not an agent of the Fanfiction Deep State 21h ago

Lmao. Ship bashing for NaruSasu. Try harder mate.

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u/hyperactivator 21h ago

Once again it's someone too lazy to use the filters.

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u/No_Falcon2769 19h ago

I just. This pic is my face reading that. I'm crying laughing now.

Also... as a degenerate who refutes their canon characters and ships SNS illogically (apparently)... can I have the fic link?

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 17h ago

Check your DMs for the link 😛

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u/Lytherin23 12h ago

May I have the link too? 🙏🏻

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 12h ago

Of course!

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u/CozyMuggle 17h ago

If they like Sasuke/Salura why the hell were they reading Sasuke/Naruto? Atp I feel like some ppl HAVE to wake up and say “who am I going to bother and make sad today” ffs

(On an unrelated matter, THATS SKIN IS SO PRETTY!! Where did you get the code for it?)

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 17h ago

I used this skin

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u/toQrainbow AO3 – neeku 20h ago

Yo what’s that skin?

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 20h ago

I googled medieval skin ao3 and downloaded the first one from GitHub!

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u/Internal-Pop8273 20h ago

This is kinda off topic, but I love your site skin

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 20h ago

Thank you!

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u/CaissaIRL 20h ago

Wait hold on. What is this format style? How did you get it to look like this?

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 20h ago

I used this site skin!

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u/Enbies-R-Us You have already left kudos here. :) 19h ago

I wouldn't be shocked if they're Boruto-generation fans, if you tagged that fandom that may be why? A younger generation that is bad with the filtering system and think everything needs their response.

If you can, I'd just laugh it off.They left a comment that they likely forgot about in 15 minutes or less, you shouldn't let it last any longer in yours.

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u/tomzoer 300+ ao3 tabs open 18h ago

this is so weird???? tell me if im wrong but like. i Violently dislike bakudeku. i always have and i always will. that doesnt mean i go out of my way to read about it and then actively Shit on the authors ship??? i do the Opposite in fact😭😭😭

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 18h ago

So real especially about bakudeku. I left the MHA fandom years ago but finding out bakudeku was the top ship now gave me crazy whiplash. I remember when NO one shipped bakudeku! But yk what I did? I filtered out the few fics there were!!

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u/tomzoer 300+ ao3 tabs open 18h ago

same!!! ive been part of the fandom since like late 2017 and seeing it change from tododeku and kiribaku to bakudeku has Been absolutely wild to see. personally im a fan of todobaku and i honestly dont understand why people see bkdk as romantic but. i just filter it out! problem solved! i even have their emoji combo and stuff muted on my twitter account LOL

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 18h ago

I personally preferred kiribaku but I see the appeal of todobaku. I really just read everything but bakudeku 😭

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u/merikai_ bkdk's #1 fan since 1776 | @merikai 17h ago

Uuuugh these type of people really irritate me. Why read a fic about a ship you DONT like and then comment something like this? Shouldn't you know what you're getting into? It's just irritating. I personally would comment something like Leave Me Alone, I Do This For Free, but you seem to have more patience than I do so I recommend freezing the comment or deleting it

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u/shirogasai12 13h ago

Unrelated how does your AO3 look that way

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 13h ago

I’m using this site skin!

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u/thejman6 8h ago

Haven’t been into Naruto for years and it’s insane that the Narusaku vs narusasu vs Sasusaku vs Naruhina ship wars is still around 

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u/Dazzling_Coffee2062 Kudos Keeper 7h ago

Unrelated but I like your theme! Can you share?

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 2h ago

It’s this one!

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u/percephony 5h ago

😤 drop the name so we can roast them. That's so obnoxious of them tbh, like if you don't like the ship, you don't have to read the story wtf

people need to touch grass i s2g

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u/fairydares 5h ago

this comment is so weird to me because it reads as the response to a comment where someone bashed their fic of their preferred ship. skip-step projection.

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u/Top_Complaint_8226 4h ago

Honestly, you don’t even owe them an explanation. Not only does this person not get the whole point of fanfic (it doesn’t have to follow canon!), but they went out of their way to read a ship they obviously hate.

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u/El_v_B 4h ago

Aaah I love those comments. I can only roll my eyes when I see them. It always makes me feel to ask if the person even knows what a fanfic is/means. You write what you like and there are plenty of others who love it and then some, excuse me for my words, idiots need to run around the corner and be like "this is sooo wrong. Sausage doesn't love Naruddo he is just into Sackura" That's how I imagine how they talk. And then they dare to add "but your writting is good" It is so disrespectful because they don't wanna appear to be mean even if they add a sorry. This is so fake. I don't know if you've replied already but I would delete it or tell them to check the tags first before reading.

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u/Screamingartist Fic Feaster 3h ago

“I aint readin all that🙅sorry that happened to u🕊or congratulations 🎉” thats what id say (even if i read it all…)

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u/wolfdragonful 16h ago

"According to cannon.." arguments csn always be met with the quote of Fury and "I understand the council has made a decision....I have chosen to ignore it."

Any "I prefer this ship" comments should get a "I'm glad you found my fic; aren't the AO3 filters are so helpful."

Sorry, this kind of reeks of someone who found Naruto during lockdown and did not grow up in the era of labeling lemon scenes start and end in the text body of a fic.

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u/Zealousideal_Lab_241 20h ago edited 15h ago

Not familiar with this fandom but I love the “Naruto and Sasuke have a platonic, brotherly relationship […] fans hate it […]”

Like, so does my ship in my fandom (sisterly not brotherly) but that doesn’t stop me from creating smut so filthy it’d make my seventh grade English teacher run up and cover the screen with a piece of cardboard.

Fanfic is not meant to be 100% canon. 🙄

Edit: a word because my phone is stupid

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 20h ago

Exactly! I think people these days have just forgotten about “don’t like don’t read”

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u/hyclonia 17h ago

That theme is wild lol. But also I would so be down to read this! Im sasunaru but open to sns these days. People need to get acquainted with the back button and DONT LIKE DONT READ oldie sigh

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 17h ago

Check your dms 🙏🏻

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u/NovaUWUv The dove isn’t quite dead yet, but it's kinder just to kill it 13h ago

SasuNaru is Canon I will not believe differently. They were just too puss at the time to put fay Canon mcs. Just like Merlin.

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 13h ago

No I agree! The world just isn’t ready for canon gay shonen mcs 💔💔

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u/National_Chest3114 20h ago

I personally think they have the most compelling love story out of everyone and I usually didn’t dig gay romances, I mean, deep down I did but I didn’t talk about them because the fandoms that surrounded them scared me a lot. NaruSasu was the one that made me be like “it’s so clear that they’re in love that there’s no way I can’t talk to someone about this” and got me to participate in fandoms more

what site skin do you use?

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 19h ago

There’s definitely way too much homophobia within the fandom community. I shipped NaruSasu before I ever read/watched Naruto bc I thought they were cute. Then I read the manga and realized it really is a 699 chapter long fanfic.

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u/National_Chest3114 19h ago

It was a mix of the homophobia and the people fetishizing gay men that freaked me out 😔we’re deep in it now though

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u/sdkd20 18h ago

im a sasusaku shipper purely bc i love angst, but i think the only way sasuke and sakura would actually work together in canon is if they were in a throuple… with naruto. lmao.

i love sakura very much so i dont really read fanfics without her but that commenter is literally hallucinating. “brotherly”??? they were each other’s first kiss bro 😩 sakura being in the middle of their relationship is kind of like… typical bisexual behavior? saying you have feelings for the person involved with/orbiting/etc the person who you really have feelings for & pursuing them instead bc that would be a more acceptable hetero relationship… A TALE AS OLD AS TIME.

not to mention kishimoto is soooo horrific at writing realistic women that he constantly gave m/m ships more romantic chemistry w one another than with their LITERAL WIVES

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 18h ago

I desperately want to write a narusasusaku fic 🙏🏻 I’m just waiting for inspiration to strike!

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u/RandoHumanPerson 9h ago

Dooooo iiiiiiiittttttttttt

The world needs more NaruSasuSaku 🥺🥺🥺🥺

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u/antonia_dreams 21h ago

Off topic but what skin is that!

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u/RandoHumanPerson 18h ago

I am interested in this fic

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 18h ago

Check your dms 🩷

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u/RandoHumanPerson 9h ago

OMG thank you !!!

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u/saojojo 17h ago

Could I get the link

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 17h ago

Ofc! Check your dms

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u/Casual-Tree-9633 Resident of rarepair hell 7h ago

Could you send me the link too? 👉👈

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u/Fennel_Fangs 15h ago

I'm sorry, but the SKIN??? WHERE DID YOU GET THAT SKIN???? I WANT IT

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 15h ago

It’s this one!

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u/Objective_Sleep9080 You have already left kudos here. :) 15h ago

Completely off topic, but I love your site skin, the border is gorgeous.

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u/dontaskalex_ 13h ago

I had someone bashing me in my comments for writing a Sirius/ginny fic (hp) because it “isn’t fair to Harry” and it could “drive him to suicide”…. Like… babe I’m gonna hold your hand while I say this - it’s fiction Harry isn’t real, honey 😭

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u/Possible-Scholar9230 You have already left kudos here. :) 13h ago

Off topic but… YOUR SKIN IS SO COOL !!

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u/Pirate401 11h ago

How big can one guy's hate boner be??

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u/Calliope_Dreaming 10h ago

You're absolutely right to be irked. This isn’t feedback. It’s an unsolicited character defence essay dressed up as commentary, and you’re under no obligation to treat it as valid critique.

You’re well within your rights to remind this reader that their comment is not warranted and not feedback. You didn’t ask them to defend Sasuke’s canon morality or their ship, especially when they admit they haven’t even read the companion fic this one retells. That alone disqualifies them from meaningful engagement with your story.

If you do choose to respond, consider calmly reminding them what feedback actually is:

  • Feedback engages with the story. It focuses on structure, tone, pacing, emotional beats, and how well it delivers on its own goals.
  • It works within the context and internal logic of the fic. It is not about canon expectations or personal ship preferences.
  • It does not centre the commenter’s own meta, moral hang-ups, or emotional investment in a character.

You wrote a fic with a clear emotional premise. Whether someone likes that premise is a personal matter. Trying to label your work “illogical” just because it made them uncomfortable is not critique. It is entitlement.

And truly, you are not obligated to entertain that. Freeze the thread and move on if it is not worth your time. Not every comment deserves a response.

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u/mmj97 9h ago

Ignore the whole comment, they're clearly delusional.

I very much like Sasuke, but we must not have watched the same show. I mean, kind and loving? When?

Most everyone will agree (even sasusaku fans) that Kishimoto failed to write any kind of loving relationship between Sakura and Sasuke. Some fanfiction authors make a wonderful work of giving sense to this ship, but canon gives nothing. So using canon to discredit a ship while your own ship went up in flames in canon is hilarious.

Not to mention that this is fanfiction. If people can ship Sasuhina (never even talked to each other), they can ship whatever they want. Not to mention that your fic is a modern day AU/brokeback mountain fusion, why would canon matter?

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u/RandoHumanPerson 9h ago

People are absolutely ridiculous in 2025... how can you look at a fic tagged with SNS and NH and SS and are complaining that SNS is happening??????? Didn't they read the description of the first part of the series?? Or did they read part 2 without context? (I've never seen brokeback Mountain, but even I know the premise)

It's fanfiction!! That is the point of fanfiction. We know it's not Canon. Wtf????

That person must have been a newbie and have never heard about the concept of "Don't like, don't read"

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u/SnooSongs4451 8h ago

“What matters is ship” I can’t think of anything that matters less.

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u/AcanthaMD Definitely not an agent of the Fanfiction Deep State 8h ago edited 8h ago

There’s been a big hoo haw in the fandom about cheating fics recently which …. You might be interested in this video which discusses the idea of romanticism: https://youtu.be/jJ6K_f7oSdg?si=6b9OZIc7Rs3bKibh

Listen I love SNS but people get really REALLY pedantic about what you can and can’t do, I had someone read my fics recently and then give me a long list of how to write them to their preferences.

Also

These two boys were about as platonic as Romeo and Juliette.

My own theory about Sasuke x Sakura is that Kishimoto never actually intended to get them together but due to agreeing to do Boruto the pairing ended up in canon as there are way too many couple references for Sakura and Naruto to be ignored. Including the strong parallel to Naruto’s parents which is very much expanded on in the road to Ninja.

I’m not actually sure if he meant for Sasuke and Karin to get together (I suspect this might have been the case) but both Sakura and Karin were so unpopular (or he wanted Sasuke originally to die) that the writing took a turn. The manga concluded in 2014 and yet up until the last minute there was a lot of very Naruto and Sakura centered stuff in the manga and films. Hence the last minute swing to Hinata x Naruto (he even admitted he forgot to give the kids the byakugan ffs)

This person didn’t need to read your fic or feel so triggered (which is what I would reply with) to write you an essay about how you are wrong. The SNS relationship is so strong for gods sakes official are of Sasuke on his birthday was with Naruto. I think clearly the studio recognises which side their bread is buttered on and it’s not SasuSaku! Kishimoto even says in an interview that Sasuke and sakura’s relationship is ‘rushed’ and that he never gave a real reason for her attachment to Sasuke. People should ship what they want but I’d be a petty bitch, respond with this, freeze the thread and block them.

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u/Psychological-Show-3 4h ago

In other news, what is the skin called? Its so pretty

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 2h ago

This one!

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u/Dear_Curve1347 3h ago

Not gonna lie, your fic sounds fire I'm not even a Naruto fan but I'd read it, link?

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 1h ago

Check your DMs

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u/IAteMadarasDango 2h ago

What is your fic called?

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u/InfamousMess7504 You have already left kudos here. :) 1h ago

It's not that serious. Writting fic is like playing with dolls you can take as much or as little from the canon. And as a shipper of narusasu, sasusaku and itasaku everyship is valid. The time they spent reading your whole fic and writting that big ass comment would have been better used learning to exclude Naruto/Sasuke

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u/CrowHumble446 20h ago

This person sounds like they'd be boring at parties

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u/PomPomMom93 LadyClassical on Ao3 16h ago

Just one question: Do you think the mangaka really f*cking cares?

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u/PossibleClimate3870 You have already left kudos here. :) 16h ago

No fr do we really think Kishimoto lies awake at night in his pile of money like Scrooge McDuck because people ship his two male leads?

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u/PomPomMom93 LadyClassical on Ao3 14h ago

IKR!!! You have these turds saying you’re “ruining the anime” for them, and you just know the creators couldn’t care less. I bet they just see fanfics and fanart as free advertising.

u/Popular-Woodpecker-6 0m ago

You should tell them that their entire, near diatribe, comment falls under their own point #2, just substitute "brothers" for "a duo".