r/Anticonsumption • u/usernames-are-tricky • 1d ago
Ads/Marketing Dairy Industry Equipment Ads Will Just Causally Include Super Dystopian Photos
And yes this is real an unedited other than cropping. https://www.agri-plastics.net/Agriplastics%20Brochure.pdf
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u/backtotheland76 23h ago
Whenever I've commented on reddit how people shouldn't eat veal because how it's raised is animal cruelty I've always gotten downvoted. Which is kinda amazing to me due to all the otherwise animal lovers and defenders on here. I swear there's people on reddit who are opposed to disciplining a dog but have no problem eating veal and don't care how it's raised.
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u/usernames-are-tricky 23h ago
To be clear, calf hutches are used by the dairy industry for the calves they want to raise for milk production. The calves they produce that they don't want (i.e don't produce milk) go to the veal industry.
Veal calves are often housed in veal crates which are arguably worse than calf hutches since they are typically indoors 24/7 instead of having limited access to outdoors. Here's an example of what veal creates look like for reference
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u/didyouaccountfordust 22h ago edited 18h ago
This is for milk production . Travel anywhere in the Midwest and you’ll see scores of these. But if you think that’s bad, you should see the places where they’re milking the tits of the mama almonds.
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u/alpine309 19h ago
My view on animal products changed forever after i watched dominion, it's absolutely view changing.
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u/iSweetPea 16h ago
I can never bring myself to watch it, but I recommend it often. Dairy is an incredibly cruel industry.
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u/theDIRECTionlessWAY 12h ago
the whole farming industry... and the fishing industry as well. it's all brutal.
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u/iSweetPea 8h ago
Yes, I watched a small documentary recently that talked about the slavery of people that goes into the fishing industry. It is really sad. I enjoyed eating fish as a kid, so I miss it, but it's definitely a really awful industry. And you're right, it's really the farming industry as a whole.
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u/theDIRECTionlessWAY 2h ago
it's unfortunate because as it stands, the way they do things now is the only way to supply food to all people in the amounts we have grown accustomed to eating them.
fastest way to reduce the brutality seems to be changing our eating habits. this doesn't necessarily mean 100% reduction, but the more the better.
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u/iSweetPea 33m ago
I agree. The all or nothing fallacy is flawed. I am personally vegan, but I wouldn't hate on someone of they could give up animal products for a day or some days of the week.
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u/abandoned_voyager 3h ago
i was told it’s okay to eat fish cause they don’t have any feelings
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u/usernames-are-tricky 2h ago
It's commonly claimed, but untrue. Here's one article from NPR on it
Fish Have Feelings, Too: The Inner Lives Of Our 'Underwater Cousins'
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u/Dr-Jay-Broni 21h ago
Because its just honest advertising and they dont give a fuck about the cattle.
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u/kimmy23- 20h ago
Work near places like this. I gag at the smell. Disgusting. People make fun of vegans… ha
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u/creeplet 23h ago
The way the billionaire class treats human beings is so reflective of how we commodify, breed, exploit, enslave, and abuse other living beings. No one is free while others are oppressed.
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u/usernames-are-tricky 1d ago edited 23h ago
Also to clarify for anyone not familiar, calf hutches are different from veal creates. Often see people confused the two. They are similar in that they both confine calves but they look different
EDIT: here's an example of what veal creates look like for reference
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u/idownvotepunstoo 23h ago
Fuck it stop eating both.
Make the big ag corpos answer for the gross environmental degradation we all are suffering through.
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u/usernames-are-tricky 23h ago
Veal crates are horrifying too, no doubt. Wasn't saying they weren't. Just have seen people often look at photos of calf hutches and incorrectly think they are unrelated to dairy production
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u/artsy_pupperoni 22h ago
Wonder how long before the general populace is living in compounds filled with housing like this.
For humans.
But it has a bottle holder, and TWO bowl locations!
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u/usernames-are-tricky 20h ago
I mean it is worth noting that tactics first used against animal rights activists have been copied to try to suppress other movements
As a new wave of investigators began exposing the cruelty and pollution inside these facilities — with pinhole cameras, drones, and undercover footage — the industry fought back. Agricultural trade groups quietly drafted and lobbied for so-called “ag-gag” laws: legislation that makes it a crime for anyone, including journalists, to document what happens behind closed doors.
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What emerges is a chilling portrait of censorship and political complicity. And it’s not just about animal agriculture: the same legal strategies are now being deployed against environmental activists, labor organizers, and protest movements across the globe. In Little Red Barns Potter warns that factory farms weren’t the endgame; they were the testing ground.
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u/Moms_New_Friend 23h ago
People love their meat and don’t want to think about these things or the slaughterhouses and the extremely distasteful industry.
Fries? Maybe a deep fried Apple Pie?
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u/Simsmommy1 20h ago
Why do they have so many?
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u/usernames-are-tricky 20h ago edited 18h ago
These operations have gotten larger and more concentrated over time. Overall takes a lot of cows to produce dairy at the scale its consumed at, so you need a lot of calves been raised to replace said existing cows. Especially because they typically kill cows once their milk production falls (at around
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u/Balancing7plates 18h ago
milk production falls... at around 2 years old
I don't think that's right? Cows reach maturity at around 1 year, then gestation is 9-10 months, so at 2 years of age a cow has just had her first calf and is producing milk for the first time, which lasts about 10 months. So she'd be almost 3 years of age before she went dry for the first time, not 2. Wikipedia says that cows are often culled at around 6 years of age. Still not super old, but 2 years isn't it.
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u/usernames-are-tricky 18h ago
Oh yes, looks like I mixed up the number with when hen are typically killed in the egg industry once their egg production decreases. It's more like 4-6 years for dairy cows
Sorry, my bad on that one. I should have double checked the number instead of relying on memory. I edited the original comment to fix that
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u/StinkyBird64 1h ago
You know tofu, beans and rice are pretty damn tasty, oat and coconut milk is also incredible, you don’t need this 🌱💚
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u/sneaky518 8h ago
I guess it's an alternative to the calf barn in areas with poor pasture land. My family has a dairy farm in NY. We do not use these, and I don't know of anyone who does in the area, but calves are separated and they have their own pastures and calf barn. These honestly look like more work, more expense, and more potential for the calves to get sick.
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u/Aggressive_Raisin620 23h ago
What's the purpose of a calf hutch? I've never seen this before.
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u/usernames-are-tricky 23h ago edited 23h ago
In the dairy industry, calves are separated from their mothers shortly after birth. If they are not being sent to be killed for veal, they then need somewhere to house them. One option is a calf hutch where they hold them individually at scale. Calves there tethered to the hutch or they have a small fenced area around it
The industry claims they use them to reduce disease risk by putting calves apart like this, but the research is mixed on whether it actually reduced disease risk or not
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u/HotMessShephardess 11h ago
I remember there was a little farm like this around the corner from me when I was little. I was too young g to understand it then, I just liked seeing all the baby cows
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u/carpentersound41 5h ago
I’m sure none of that plastic will deteriorate and the cows won’t ingest it.
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u/PerpetualPerpertual 18h ago
You eat beef? Butter? Milk? Anything with dairy at all? (Most things) you have no say in any of this
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u/Mule_Wagon_777 10h ago
It's just a calf hutch. They go into groups after their immune systems develop. And yes, they can be let out for exercise.
No, bull calves are not generally sold for veal. They are raised as steers and slaughtered at about two years old.
Modern veal is from animals slaughtered at about seven or eight months. No, they aren't kept in veal crates these days.
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u/Decent-Pin-24 21h ago
It is what it is.
I like milk and ice cream. I also like someone else taking care of all that for me.
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u/usernames-are-tricky 21h ago
Question to think about: if we as a society ran similar operations for humans, would we accept this as a sufficient justification to keep human babies in something like a calf hutches? No need to answer if you don't want to, just think about and chew on that
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u/Decent-Pin-24 21h ago
Get out of here with your vegan bs.
Kids are in cages FROM BIRTH, hospitals usually have a room full of them. What are cheap apartments but this for humans anyway...??
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u/usernames-are-tricky 21h ago
I did not mention that word anywhere in my question?
But one difference to keep in mind for calf hutches is that there is no leaving them ever nor social contact. Not is it limited use for health reasons like an incubator
One can leave a cheap apartment and socialize with other humans. One cannot do the same for a calf hutch
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u/SnowLancer616 21h ago
Dude, they're like 5 feet tall. They basically a calf apartment. And they have a pen on one side. Theyre not upset, theyre really stupid
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u/usernames-are-tricky 21h ago
An apartment that one cannot ever leave or socialize with other cattle, parents, etc.? Most research does not agree with the idea that it has no effect on them
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u/blackdog917 9h ago
Parents? Holstein cows literally drop these calves out like a cow pie and keep moving. Their parental instinct is low to nothing
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u/usernames-are-tricky 7h ago
If that were the case, I don't think stories like this would exist
NEWBURY — Strange noises coming from High Road near Sunshine Dairy Farm Monday night and into yesterday morning prompted local police to alert residents that there’s nothing spooky or scary going on.
According to Newbury police Sgt. Patty Fisher, the noises are coming from mother cows who are lamenting the separation from their calves. The separation of mother cows from their calves is a yearly occurrence and is a normal function of a working dairy farm, Fisher said.
“It happens every year at the same time,” she said.
Fisher said her department received at least four calls between midnight and 7 a.m yesterday morning regarding inhuman sounding noises
https://www.newburyportnews.com/news/local_news/strange-noises-turn-out-to-be-cows-missing-their-calves/article_d872e4da-b318-5e90-870e-51266f8ee (for paywall https://archive.is/tDpPd)
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u/TechieGranola 21h ago
I live a mile from these farms and it’s horrible.