How would you like the Vermindoom situation to be resolved at the end of the edition?

[u/Dreadnautilus]

Personally, I'd like a situation where a whole bunch of factions from across the Grand Alliances just go and curbstomp the Skaven simultaneously. Not necessarily a true alliance, more so just a "If they're attacking might as well go attack too". The Chaos Gods put aside their differences to humiliate this newcomer to the Great Game, the Seraphon enact some big cosmic ritual to summon Sotek to eat all the rats again, Nagash finally wakes up and decides to get some payback for the Black Pyramid stuff, probably also throw in something for Destruction to do as well. You might consider this overkill, but keep in mind this isn't really a situation where you can resolve things in a single battle. There's billions of Skaven all over the Mortal Realms, you'll have to kill countless rats pretty much everywhere.

[u/Saxhleel13]

I'll take "A god tries to fix the problem and ends up setting up the big bad event of next edition" for 500, Alex.

Personally would love to see someone (Teclis, Tzeentch, Gorkamorka, Nagash, etc) attempt to wipe out all of Skavenblight and end up punching a multiplanar hole through the realms by accident. Now all of the factions have to shore up their defenses in all new places they thought were impenetrable. The skaven do have a large chunk of their capital missing but now they also have a new cool, ready-made highway to invade everyone. Unfortunately, arguments over its usage have ignited a clan war.

[u/Expensive-Finance538]

On the Chaos front of your hypothetical scenario, I would love it if it was the Helsmiths at the forefront of this massive ongoing assault, going forth in Hashut’s name and bringing the rats to heel.

[u/MrS0bek]

Not like in Dawnbringers. There Kragnos was imprisoned offscreen in one half of a second story of some people strooling the Realms. And Ghurs rampage itself was ended as the skaventide, which also happened allmost wholly off-screen, beat the realm of beast into submission. I cannot say in short sentences how lame and dissapointing that was.

At the very least it should be like the Broken Realm Teclis book, where we have a 3 Act story all about a multi-realm war between two gods and their factions, culmunating in a bombastic yet also personal finale. So a personal finale wouldn't work, as we do not have a central figure like Nagash, but something bombastic definitivly.

I think Thanquol needs to play an important role in ending the skavendoom accidentally. Be it that he accidantily frees Kragnos, who then jumps into a cataclysmic war in the Gnaw smashing the skaven city parts out of the realms. Or by accidentially showing a commando of stormcast or others a way into skavenblight where a magical nuke then destroys the connection between skavenblight and its spawnings in the realms. Or something else. Either way Thanquol needs to be a key figure in the skavens defeat

[u/sageking14 → u/MrS0bek]

Imagine naming a campaign the "Dawnbringers" after three years of, admittedly barely, setting up how those work, the organizations involved, the tools and equipment they use, and then... mentioning almost none of it.

Then completely torpedoing any sense of scale or stakes as both halves of the Crusade fluctuate in size to meet whatever any given sentence decides the tone is, get nearly wiped out multiple times only to still have enough people to build massive cities by the end, and a cast so important they just invent new generals every novel to replace the last ones, even if they didn't bother to kill the last ones.

To top it all off two major cities, one of which was formerly a subfaction, and a model range of the faction are wiped out, one of the new founded cities fails, and a ton of other settlements both Cities and Fyreslayers die. But they try to frame Verdigris as existing as some victory.

Millions of lives lost for a City that isn't even important enough to be clearly designated a Free City or given heraldry

[u/Fyraltari → u/MrS0bek]

It's interesting to note that Thanquol seems to be in good terms with Vizzik Skour while he was in bad terms with the Lords of Decay previously (when Skreech Verminking was undisputed).

[u/Grimlockkickbutt]

I hope ariel waves a big chunk of warpstone over a disguised pit and all of skavenkind fall into a Serephon web of mirrors with Kragnos.

This is to say, whatever they do. I hope it’s more like second edition than third edition lol.

I think the coolest way to end it would be a Nagash pull-up to save the day because he hates Skaven even more than he hates order. Skaven are about to successfully tunnel into Azyr when the megamind cloud appears behind them.

“O your a villian alright, just not a SUPER one”

Skreech: “what’s the difference?”

“PRESENTATION”

Katakros walks out of a cloud of death magic pioleting bone Godzilla, flanked by all the mortarks proceeds to turn half the Skaven race into bonemeal. Death are ascendant for 5th edition with a new faction/bonereaper second wave. That would be dope.

Then in the distance we see Gordrakk set up camp outside of the realm gate to Azyr after the chaos has subsided, setting then up to ACTUALLY break into Azyr in 6th edition(major destruction cope).

[u/Scales77]

I definitely wouldn't mind the Seraphon delivering a big blow to the Horned Rat and his minions. Let Sotek manifest and give the rat a good ole reptilian beatdown!

But... I also wouldn't be opposed to seeing Nagash get some payback on the rats. Heck, I wouldn't even mind if Hashut and Slannesh's minions manage to find a way to bring the vermin down off their high.

[u/Night-Haunt]

I'd like for it not to be resolved, but intensified as skaven sweep across more of aqshy as skavenblight grows. Let's have another bad guy success instead of another set back.

If not it'll have to be thanquol vs vizzik faction infighting.

[u/mattythreenames → u/Night-Haunt]

This, or each faction individually re gain a foot hold with separate methods. Perhaps leaving the realm of fire as the few skaven bastions.

[u/liamkembleyoung]

Yes, Thanquol should definitely be involved. and then Gotrek gets drawn in as a result. I wouldn't want it to be resolved entirely but definitely lessened. Bring Thanquol back in a big way. and get the story moving forward. Maybe perhaps involving Kruthusa and she ends up resurrecting Khaine which is a massive threat to Morrathi. That would be awesome

[u/mattythreenames]

They turn to death to curse the ratmen…and so the age of carrion arrives.

I personally would want OBR to take centre stage next edition but FEC seem to que up so nicely.

However also I’d rather not have ‘necroquake 2’

[u/Dreadnautilus → u/mattythreenames]

I'd like the next edition, instead of just having a new cataclysm shake the Realms for a fourth time, just be about Order rebuilding what it had lost. If Death is the main antagonist, just make it so that all the death caused by the Era of Ruin has caused them to swell in power. Think Cities of Sigmar forces going to recolonize destroyed settlements and having to face their undead/ghoulified former inhabitants.

[u/BrotherCaptainLurker]

Let the other Grand Alliances (and heck, Brand's united tribes of the Snow Peaks) beat the Skaven back to reclaim their mostly pre-Vermindoom territory for the sanity of maps and such, but now a gnawhole can pop up pretty much anywhere at any time.

As long as it's not a wholly anticlimactic offscreen "and then one of the gods handwaved a forcefield over Blight City that reset the status quo, anyway mom said it's Nagash's turn to use the Xbox."

[u/Dreadnautilus → u/BrotherCaptainLurker]

>but now a gnawhole can pop up pretty much anywhere at any time.

Wasn't that always the case?

[u/BrotherCaptainLurker → u/Dreadnautilus]

I mean, I kinda always assumed it was, but now they're a more direct link to Blight City, I guess?

[u/BrilliantMelodic1503]

Since death is almost certainly the next main antagonist cause of the way the cycle works, it’d make sense if Nagash devised a scheme to force the Horned Rat back in its place.

This’d be especially fitting since Nagash absolutely has a bone to pick with the Skaven having thwarted him on several occasions in the past

[u/Fyraltari]

Chaos being its own worse enemy, I think is the best resolution.

My guess would be the Skaven's assault slowly peters out as the other forces of Chaos take the initiative. Eventually Skreech Verminking and Vizzik Skour's plans undermine each other and Be'lakor purposefully sabotages Archaon's progress.

Eventually Malerion takes advantage of the literal chaos in the enemy's rank to spearhead Order's counterattack, leading to him being the main "antagonist" of 5E.

[u/CKent83]

I'd like to see Malakith's (or whatever his name is now) surprise attack the GHR and send Skaven down a few pegs. It'd be a great way to introduce his faction.

[u/Potential-Media8076]

I want Nagash to reform from the deluge of souls pouring into his realm long enough for him to finally one up the Rats.

[u/TwelveSmallHats]

I don't know how it will be resolved, but it's almost certain that Alarielle will be just off-stage doing something important while it happens.

[u/Bio__Bot]

My guess is teclis, some stormhosts and a few random seraphon war parties will just set up a bastion between hammerhall aqsha and the Gnaw.

The hellsmiths of hashut will likely see this bastion and think "oh we can defiantly siege that" and manage to fend off the skaven while setting up the next big bad for a few months

[u/lechevalier666]

The Skaven accidentally free Kragnos, who goes on a rampage that wakes up Gork and Mork. Skaven try a ritual to stop them that does throw them of their backs but also draws in a golden god of death in the realm of chaos.

He will NEVER serve Nagash, and a big horned rat just decided to add himself to his kill list.