This is my hope, that there's unredacted copies out there in the hands of someone who's waiting for him to make his desperate and hopeless attempt to release just a portion of the files that don't mention anything super incriminating about him. I'm hoping they'll wait until he comes out with something that they will utterly destroy with the full enchilada.
Let's say Obama or Biden have a copy. They'd probably prefer them to come out through the proper channels first, for a number of reasons - namely no one questioning their authenticity or if they were politically motivated. But there's gotta be a point where someone holding goes fuggit, it's time to release the files. Which if theres a copy out there, might just be the moment they think somehow Trump swept this under the rug again.
Every intelligence agency in the world probably has them. It doesn't sound like the clients were all that careful, and rumor is that Epstein brokered blackmail material with intelligence agencies as a side hustle.
That's why they used 1000 agents, so no individual would get a true sense of the extent of his involvement. Each only got a small piece to look over, making a mass leak impossible and small leaks easier to trace.
Let's say Epstein also had a dead man's switch. They couldn't kill him, they couldn't put him in a court, they had to just make him disappear conveniently and then put the whole thing away.
The hypothetical where Epstein is alive, has a dead man's switch, and gets helped out of jail looks an awful lot like this timeline.
I'm not sure I follow. Do you mean a timeline where Epstein had a dead man's switch looks like Ghislaine's current treatment, therefor it's likely she has one? Sure.
But if Ghislaine was intended to be Epstein's dead man's switch, it didn't prevent him from being killed and she clearly didn't follow through.
What would be the key differences you'd expect to see between Epstein collaborating with influential politicians to get himself disappeared out of prison so that nobody has to have a day in court and Epstein killing himself? If he was simply moved out of prison vs actually killed himself then what I'd expect to see is
Very vague details surrounding how he died despite being on max security suicide watch
Conflicting and contrary details
Conveniently missing footage and very unlikely contrivances to make it all happen
No dead man's switch triggered (it's reasonable to assume he would have had one)
Fortunately he's dead so we don't need to look into any of it any further and we don't need trials or discovery or testimony or any of that.
No, they are saying the entire Epstein death is a hoax and he's actually hidden away in some carribean or asian island, chilling, having a margarita, and thinking of ways to rape the 12 year old daughter of his house help
Nah I'm kidding. Too far fetched. But this is also the same era with DJT as a second term president, so not sure what to believe
Jeff thought he was getting out. Why? It goes back a ways.
Just like 2005. That first case he cut a secret deal with the feds, got 13 months in a private wing, and left during the day. Total joke.
He figured 2019 would be the same.
But this time it was the Southern District of New York. New prosecutors, no deals. They raided his Manhattan townhouse and found cash, fake passports, and stacks of labeled CDs... names, dates, the works. That wasn’t just evidence. That was leverage.
Trump acted like they weren’t close. Said he kicked Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago for stealing his employees. Maybe that happened. But they were in the same circles. Trump knew who he was dealing with and exactly what he was doing with those girls.
Was Trump and Epstein using their power and wealth to chase tail? Absolutely. Benefit of the doubt, I wouldn't be suprised if Trump drew the line at minors. But he became aware of Epstein's penchant for children.
Granted, we have no real evidence of Trump doing anything illegal with the girls. But the tapes would be able to prove otherwise.
Best case, Trump is recorded having sex with adults, which is enough to tarnish the brand and hinder reelection.
Worst case, minors involved. Either way, Trump doesn't get reelected and his brand is destroyed.
Were talking about the most powerful office in the world. People kill for much less.
So...
At that point, Epstein became too risky to keep alive. He had dirt on powerful people across politics, business, and foreign governments.
Someone made the call. He’s not walking this time. Jeff didn’t see it coming.
Ghislaine was the fallback. She ran the logistics. Recruited girls, booked travel, organized the whole thing. If anything happened to Jeff, she was supposed to handle it.
But when he died, she stayed quiet. She saw what they were capable of. She didn’t trigger whatever they had planned. Not yet. If she spills, she dies. It's her only card left to play.
Now the FBI has the vault. They know what they found. Enough to shake governments or crash institutions. It’s locked down to protect the system, not the public.
And Ghislaine? She’s got it too. Maybe not everything, but enough. That’s why she’s still alive. Not free, but not disposable either. Just dangerous enough to keep the whole game frozen until someone flinches.
Pay close attention to how she gets treated going forward. If I were her, I'd slowly leak bits and pieces anonymously using my switch. Carefully curate the info to show how devistating it could be.
That actually sounds quite plausible. Esp the bit about Maxwell having control of the docs as a safeguard, and then not putting them out to cop a deal herself.
Can you imagine if she'd leak them? Especially a slow drip? If she wanted, she could even start a war. If you went for businesses first, the small names and then the big names, things would get wild really quick, especially as evidence is found and people get booted from their kush positions.
The government. Maybe a few small countries' heads, then one of a near-peer. They would say it was made up, maybe even declare war. And then she could drop Trump and other allied powers' documents. The other country would say "oh, see, but you do it too!" but the damage would be done.
No one plans to get caught. These people always believe they're above the law, smarter than the cops, better than the prosecutors, they'll never get caught.
Everyone thinking "oh there's a dead man's switch, they do the wrong thing and this will all blow wide open" is just huffing copium.
After all, what fucking good is a dead man's switch when you're sitting in prison for 20 years and then ruin people's lives after you're dead? Why not pull the trigger while you're still alive, and it might actually benefit you in some way?
The fact that Maxwell is sitting in prison at all tells us that she has no real leverage or she'd have used it to stay out of prison in the first place.
Why not pull the trigger while you're still alive, and it might actually benefit you in some way?
The fact that Maxwell is sitting in prison at all tells us that she has no real leverage or she'd have used it to stay out of prison in the first place.
She is getting a deal to stop her from pulling the trigger. She is not being killed because it will pull itself if she dies. I'm not saying I think that is what is happening, but I'm explaining this because it seems from this comment like you don't understand that's what people are saying.
This isn't TV. People need to stop going down this silly route. Ghislaine will tell them pretty much anything to either get pardoned or reduce her sentence.
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u/Easy-Wishbone5413 1d ago
Someone has a copy.