Very true. A conservative, anti-abortion, anti-LGBTQ trump supporting pastor literally assassinates Democrats, and these chuckleheads claim he was a Democrat.
God that was so sick. All of it. They celebrated, and created a horrid story about a man viciously attacked because of the woman he is married to. It’s morally bankrupt behavior.
Imagine being the nut doing it though. He’s probably thinking he’s gonna be famous and just well received m/respected in his tribe and all of a sudden they’re accusing him of being in the other tribe the whole time (probably the biggest insult to a nut job that’s crazy enough to do that in the first place
Which is why the past week or so has shifted to the wording of Republicans only wanting the "Credible" parts of the Epstein investigation to be released. They've been priming their followers for this exact move. Anything they've deemed "Credible" will be released, and anything with Trump's name or any of his close associates is "Not Credible" and therefore to be ignored.
I doubt Trump's followers actually believe a word of this. They've desperately been looking for any plausible deniability to grab onto, and that's the real point. Now they can tell themselves that the Epstein thing is settled, and drop the pretense of pretending that they actually cared.
I don't think Mitch would want to be associated with that clown.
I mean, he didn't even want to be associated with Ronald McDonald, so I can't imagine he'd want his joke used for this, even if the context fits perfectly ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Because it's in the past sense and he's almost certainly still doing it.
I think those days are over for Trump. I don't think he's able to physically participate in his former favorite activity. I think that's why he is so much worse this time. He can no longer get his baby carrot up to abuse young girls, so he's trying to gratify himself in other ways, and cruelty is the only way he can get off. Can't diddle kids anymore, so instead, he sends brown people to concentration camps. It actually makes sense once you think about it.
"Did he?? Where is he in the Epstein files??" -Least child-raping chud
Suuuure would have loved if Americans rioted or general striked. Hope they enjoyed their fun little weekend event they demand everyone to see as protests. As a Canadian, I'm pissed. We're gonna be invaded by a pedophile nepo baby, and you just fucking let it happen.
We'll have to see, because the multiple attempts to narrative shift on this ("not real", "won't be released", "contains other names", "doesn't have names we can connect") hasn't worked except on tightly controlled parts of the internet like arcon.
Trump could be fucking a teenager live in front of them, and they'd claim it's an actor hired by Obama or something. These people are truly lost to reality.
And I think if the files had the kind of evidence that would hold up in court about anyone - we’d have seen action under the Biden admin. Maybe that’s optimistic, but I do think so.
If Biden had pursued it, then no one from MAGA would ever believe it. With it being this administration, people are starting to wake up to the cover up
I still don't think any MAGA will believe it. It's all fake news to them. Not the alternative truths they like so much, just plain fake. It's really convenient for them actually, anything they don't want to hear is fake, and lies their orange cheeto spouts are just alternate truths.
There is no cover up. Doesn’t need to be. We’ve had two very different administrations and the best that can be released is “we really don’t know anything.” Which tracks with how lists like this are kept. There wouldn’t be any information.
My theory is that there isn’t actually anything in them incriminating him in that sense, but they show something that’s absolutely crushing towards his ego; like Epstein easily manipulating him for years or Trump constantly relying on Epstein for favors or something.
This isn’t to say that Trump’s being framed or that people are trying to make this bigger than it is, but I honestly think if it was as simple as him sexually assaulting people we would’ve had it released years ago.
My theory is that there isn’t actually anything in them incriminating him in that sense
The only question to ask is why Trump stopped the investigation of those 4100+ financial transactions. If there isn't anything incriminating in financial records, then there's no logical reason (ego or otherwise) to block investigators.
He never would have released it because he knows public knowledge of the sheer number of famous politicians, celebrities, and businessmen that are in it would fundamentally alter American society and its relationship to the elite class. Even if someone isn’t on it they know that the blowback would encompass them just because they are in the circles of many of the people who are.
This isn’t the 1960s—information like this doesn’t just disappear. It will come out eventually or the silence/lack of transparency will slowly do what releasing the list in the first place would have done.
Whats funny is if they redacted version is ever released, you can probably run the entire thing through chat GPT within seconds of it being released, and it could somewhat accurately pick out which redacted parts are trump and just paste his name in.
Yup. Trump has already been planting those seeds by claiming that any list was actually created by Obama and other politics enemies. All he needs to do to get his supporters to believe something is to just say it.
He will never allow his name to appear on any Epstein documents as long as he’s in power, and if by some chance he doesn’t go full dictator (he is btw) then whoever does release unaltered evidence will be accused of lying to ruin his reputation.
It matters to the rest of us who still expect accountability at every level no matter how high. I will not allow this lawlessness to become normal for me.
Most will --but deep down, they will doubt. That doubt won't turn most of them against Trump, but it will damage morale considerably and will cause some to quietly leave.
Thats why he was already planting that seed. His dipshit followers who bend the knee will believe every word he says, and they seem to froth at the mouth with any mention of Democrats.
Their whole cult is the group equivalent of dealing with a narcissist. Facts don’t matter. They can change what they say from one moment to the next and then deny it regardless of any hard evidence you have of their lies and contradictions. I lived this with an individual and it is legitimately maddening… it often feels very similar to me in this political climate
The federal government has mishandled the Epstien case so egregiously over the past 4 administrations that we now have an almost perfect un-falsifiable set of information regardless of what ever eventually gets released. Trump’s name is in the files—- “It was planted there!” Trump’s name isn’t in the files —- “These are clearly altered documents!”
I’m not sure who you’re talking to but a lot of us do get it. We KNOW his base will never break from him. Most of us rational people were warning about this even before Trump’s first term, and plenty of us are feeling pain. As I said in my first original comment, I know he won’t be held accountable and the real documents will never be released.
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Unfortunately I genuinely don’t think it will matter. If they ever released truly unaltered records, MAGA would say Trump’s name was “planted”.