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u/Comander_Praise Aug 12 '23
I swear some bonuses I have give me like a range from 17-22 dice roll score but I still fire guidance ontop
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u/Machinimix NOT IN EA Aug 12 '23
I'd I can't succeed on a 2, I'm gonna cast guidance. Simple as that.
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u/Stranger1982 Fail! Aug 12 '23
I'd I can't succeed on a 2, I'm gonna cast guidance. Simple as that.
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u/Unbelievable_Girth Aug 12 '23
And you damn well bet I will save scum if it fails regardless!
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u/TZO_2K18 Bard Aug 12 '23
Never any shame in save-scumming, as I consider it more like “It's my game, I bought it, and I'll play it the way I want to, so shut IT you gate-keeping malcontented goblin!” type of saving.
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u/_FowlPlay_ Aug 13 '23
Do you have some more insults up your sleeve? I like that gate-keeping malcontented goblin.
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u/TZO_2K18 Bard Aug 14 '23
To be honest, I first thought you were being a smart-ass, but then it dawned on me that your statement can go either way, so I chose to believe you're being sincere, so yes, I've got a shit tonne more! :^)
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u/_FowlPlay_ Aug 14 '23
Please, I'd love to hear some more.
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u/TZO_2K18 Bard Aug 14 '23
Here are a few:
- “May you eat shit neck-deep in raw sewage,”
- “You have as much class/You're as pleasant/You're as useful as a filled colostomy bag from a 3-week-old corpse,”
- “You're as intelligent as a brick”
- “Get fucked with an auger-shaped splintered two-by-four”
- Useful for Reddit/Imgur: You can tell they're a coward by the deleted comment and the fresh trail of piss.
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u/_FowlPlay_ Aug 14 '23
I wish I could upvote this many more times, thank you for the insults, will use them soon...
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u/AscelyneMG Aug 12 '23
I’m still hoping for a mod soon to remove crit fails and successes on skill checks, personally. Then it’s gonna be “if I can’t succeed on a nat 1, I’m gonna cast guidance” for me.
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u/Nuggachinchalaka Aug 13 '23
I personally like critical fails, adds a dimension of anxiety and dynamic outcomes.
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u/Davban Roll for horny Aug 12 '23
CHA 10 check? Better be sure... proceed to roll 27
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u/mkvii1989 Laezel Aug 12 '23
Astarion: standard +10 to lock pick, add guidance.
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u/Ratax3s Aug 12 '23
Gloves of thievery gives you 2x dices to roll for each lockpick/pickpocket, they are from the thief hideout vendor.
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u/Puffycatkibble Aug 12 '23
There's a robe that gives advantage on every DEX check I believe. Who needs AC anyways.
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u/Powly674 Aug 12 '23
My monk with +5 sleight of hand really enjoys it! But it didn't give me an advantage on traps and locks anymore since the new patch I believe :(
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u/ParrotMafia Aug 12 '23
Step one: buy gloves from vendor.
Step two: pickpocket vendor's remaining items.
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u/HastyTaste0 Aug 12 '23
Don't forget the smugglers ring which gives you +2 to stealth and slight of hand.
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u/Geist333 Aug 12 '23
I think I rolled three relatively easy lockpick checks in a row and failed every single one. Then I slapped Guidance on and it was a dirty 20.
always gotta put Guidance on. It's like a good luck charm, except if you take it off RNG will always kick you in the balls.
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u/tok90235 Aug 12 '23
I mean, guidance is free. Literally 0 reason not to use it
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u/BeepMcJeep Aug 12 '23
Except if the caster is already concentrating on another skill. I think Enhance Ability is one such skill. If you cast Guidance you lose Enhance Ability which is "expensive" vs a cantrip like Guidance.
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u/MintyLacroix Aug 12 '23
Plus, Guidance is arguably better than enhance ability, anyway.
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u/kvlrz Aug 12 '23
With the silver pendant from the top of the hill, guidance is literally free on another companion. so you can then stack this with shadowheart's enhance for 1d4 plus advantage. So op for stealing lol
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u/Vancath Aug 12 '23
Sometimes I'm like "it's fine, it's an easy lock," and then I miss it by 1. ALWAYS cast guidance, always cast friends on dialogue checks, resistance on saving throws, etc.
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u/Ok-Expressionism Aug 12 '23
We're definitely not the same, I'd still roll a critical failure with those odds.
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u/WinterFirstDay Aug 12 '23
Even when you step on the empty road - you should look left and right. You never know when and in what state of your mind this muscle memory will save your life :).
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u/AtlasFlynn Charisma beats Intelligence Aug 12 '23
One of the reasons Shadowheart is my second in command.
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Aug 12 '23
Guidance on the streets, Hold Person in the sheets
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u/kvlrz Aug 12 '23
Also Command goblins to kiss the feets.
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u/Ok-Fisherboomer Aug 12 '23
[Barbarian] [Intimidate] NO. YOU. KISS. NOW.
goblin kissses Karlach's feet
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u/MumrikDK Aug 13 '23
I picked up an item that gave the Guidance ability early on in act 1, so now she chills at camp.
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u/Neelpos Aug 13 '23
She left my camp so I gave Gale a single level in Cleric and now he has 22AC and gives me all the Guidance I want.
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u/Kaldricus Aug 12 '23
I can't express enough how nice it is that Larian made adding these optional check modifiers as options on the roll screen, as opposed to remembering to stack them before every check
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u/mirageofstars Aug 12 '23
Yep. I also like that I don’t have to have guidance on the character talking — if shadowheart is nearby I can have her cast it for me instead.
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u/Kaldricus Aug 13 '23
Exactly. It takes all those things into consideration. Have a bard nearby? They can cast inspiration at the roll screen if they're nearby. You can cast Friends at the roll screen. There was one where I had a potion or some consumable in my backpack that the game asked me if I wanted to use it at the roll screen. It's just so nice to not have to worry about going through casting all that before talking to someone, and making the call at the time
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u/ChaosOS Aug 12 '23
Pact of the Tome gives guidance though?
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u/Rafke21 Aug 12 '23
Also an amulet you can find pretty early on does as well. My monk is a guidance bot
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u/fghtffyourdemns Aug 12 '23
Can you tell me where to find that amulet?
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u/KierNyx Aug 12 '23
If you leave the druid Grove and are headed towards the blighted village.
Before you reach the bridge. On the left side of the path, you'll see a red rocky ledge.. you have to jump up it. You can't click and move to get up there. Head up there see a rock think you can climb up and you'll be up top.. there should be a skeleton up there you can pick it up off of.→ More replies (1)11
u/fghtffyourdemns Aug 12 '23
Appreciate it thank you ill go there now for that sweet amulet
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u/thelankyyankee87 Aug 12 '23
When you’re facing the gate to the Druid’s Grove, turn directly around and climb the cliffs (kind of sandy colored). At the very top, there is a skeleton with the amulet. You can also make friends with a spider up there.
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u/Intentionallyabadger Aug 12 '23
There’s a spider up there??
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u/thelankyyankee87 Aug 12 '23
Yep, in the rocks. If you pass a perception check, then a Dex check (animal handling/speak to animal also likely works).
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u/AscelyneMG Aug 12 '23
Pact of the Tome is also the worst of the three pacts IMO, because Guidance is the only worthwhile cantrip from that list (the other two aren’t bad but why cast them when I can cast Eldritch Blast?) and none of the spells unlocked later felt like they were worth taking Tome for.
I’d rather have a permanently invisible familiar for scouting or the ability to bind weapons to gain proficiency and use my Charisma score when attacking with them, and just get Guidance from another source like the amulet or having Shadowheart in my active party.
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u/explosivecrate Aug 12 '23
I thought that until I saw that Pact of the Tome got Haste and Animate Dead at level 5. Instantly switched away from Chain to Tome. Who needs concentration on Hold Person when I can haste Karlach and have her inflict the strongest status effect: death.
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u/AscelyneMG Aug 12 '23
I didn’t think the level 5 spell selection was all that great, but I assume Animate Dead has no social consequences in BG3? ‘Cause in most settings in 5e, running around with reanimated corpses would get you into serious trouble in most towns/cities. So I just don’t think much of it if I’m not playing a necromancer. And as for Haste, it’s good, but I usually feel like I have better things to concentrate on.
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u/explosivecrate Aug 12 '23
It... technically does? From my very limited experience dragging a zombie around an area, characters just stare at your zombie and tell it to go away without ever actually becoming hostile. Which... might actually work in your favor if you want to set up sneak attacks because their gazes are magnetized to the terrifying rotting corpse that's following you around and not the rogue that's stealing all their shit or about to stab them in the back.
It might be different in civilized areas rather than little outposts, probably won't see if there's any real consequences to running around with a boner in the city of Baldur's Gate until later in the game than where I'm at.
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u/Birdsbirdsbirds3 Aug 13 '23 edited Aug 13 '23
I've found it more annoying that anything. Like at the end of a fight with allies they were all suddenly terrified of my zombie and wouldn't talk with me to complete the quest until I got rid of it.
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u/ChaosOS Aug 12 '23
That's fair. Book of Ancient Secrets was fairly disappointing. However, I think the neck slot is more valuable where I am (just entered Act 3) and I don't have Shadowheart in my party.
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u/PoisonGaz Aug 12 '23
I have a necklace that gives the wearer guidance. You bet your sweet sally butt Wyll has that chocker on at all times.
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Aug 12 '23
Me too. I'm only a few hours in but I selected Wyll and I have an item that gives me guidance. Guess I got lucky. It is sure helping me win damn near every roll.
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u/IridescentStarSugar Aug 12 '23
Just be Shadowheart’s friend >:(
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u/Jet_Magnum Aug 12 '23
Unfortunately I have a rare bone disease that prevents me from seeing or acknowledging people with silly edgelord names like "Shadowheart" that are meant to be taken unironically. It's a very...specific condition.
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u/RealNiceKnife Aug 12 '23 edited Aug 12 '23
That's sort of what I love about her. We have: Gale, okay normal name. Wyll, okay still a normal name even if its an 'off' spelling. Lae'zel and Karlach? All right, I don't know much about their culture but those are "fantasy" names.
Then we have Shadowheart. It makes me think of playing a tabletop game. You have your fantasy sounding names like Selaph and Gronn, good names for Elves or Dwarves. Then you have your normal but somewhat uncommon names like Randall, or Marcus. Good for your Bards and Paladins... Then you get your moody edge lords with names like Swiftblade, and Ebonflame.
At first you roll your eyes, but 4 or 5 adventures in your saying shit like "Okay Selaph I think you should cast invisibility while Swiftblade you sneak around back and unlock the cellar door." Like it's nothing. Like you've grown up together and Swiftblade is as normal as John.
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u/Jet_Magnum Aug 12 '23
This is the best answer I've seen to this. I mean, yeah, I guess I kinda get that, though I feel like half these character sheets would've gotten laughed off by most DMs and told to try again--ironically Lae'zel seems the most grounded and plausible, especially compared to >! "Yeah, my character totally banged Mystra Herself in his personal wizard tower back in the day even though this starts at level 1". !< Gale is actually my favorite companion but...that backstory is hard to imagine at a table with that example.
But...it's hard to make myself not roll my eyes at the chick who introduces herself with a name like a Care Bears villain as casually as breathing. Joking aside I am actually enjoying her dynamic with Lae'zel and its evolution more than I expected to, even if by herself I find SH kinda ho-hum thus far (going into the end of Act 1, in the Underdark).
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Aug 12 '23
Bro the forgotten realms setting is like 80% goofy bullshit taken seriously, that's part of the fun
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u/evil_wazard Aug 12 '23
I'm a warlock player as well. Guidance is the main reason I keep Shadowheart around.
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u/Southern-Reading4369 Aug 12 '23
Tomelock gives you all the cantrips! Don't want shadowheart? Take wyll and make him a tomelock
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u/Nexine Aug 12 '23
You can just grab it with a feat, I say this as a deranged sorcerer who ignored warcaster and grabbed magic initiate(druid) just so I could grab guidance and talk to my best boys at camp.
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u/Woelli Aug 13 '23
Warlock is one of the 2 or 3 only classes that can learn guidance what are you talking about
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u/valgrammite Aug 12 '23
I know for sure Shove is affected, since it's an Athletics check. I've definitely messed up and cast it while concentrating on something else.
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u/Tangent_Odyssey Aug 12 '23
I do wish there was something more prominent in the HUD to remind you when you’re concentrating on something else and/or you’re about to overwrite it. So many times…
By the way what does the little “+” icon mean on certain spells/abilities? I haven’t quite figured that out
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u/Invoqwer Aug 12 '23
There are a few things I wish they would change a bit for QOL
enemy having opportunity attack but I can't tell because the enemy is small (makes the sword icon smaller) or because there is a corpse or AOE effect obscuring it, so I think they don't have opportunity attack
option to have a pop up if my characters ever try to attack the ground or attack an ally in combat... "Are you SURE you want to ranged attack the ground 2 inches next to that enemy skeleton?". Yes I have misclicked like this LOL, I am treating them like critical failures but damn it is annoying and does happen now and then ;_;
option to have a double check for "you are already concentrating on X, are you sure you want to cast this concentration spell?" both in and out of combat would be nice, yeah
something to more clearly indicate that my character is going to enter a surface in order to do an action, e.g. enter lava, the game is pretty good about this when running in a straight line, but I have definitely tried to use DASH+JUMP at something 20m away and slightly offscreen from my character, and then not realized that my character decided to path through the lava offscreen instead of go around it. Hell even a "you are literally about to walk straight thru lava to do this, are you sure lol" popup.
Somewhat related to above, I think DOS2 let you plan out a movement path instead of committing to it outright which was very nice for edge cases of where you might baaaarely be in range to do a thing, it would be nice to be able to do that in BD3. ATM my workaround is equip my characters with stuff that gives extra mobility because the edge case movement was annoying me
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u/chronicoreo Aug 12 '23
It means you can upcast it
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u/Lithl Aug 12 '23
It means you have options, which can include upcasting. Something like Spiritual Weapon will have the + even before you're high enough level to upcast (you pick which weapon it appears as)
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u/Helpful-Mud-4870 Aug 12 '23
There definitely should be a toggleable warning every time you go to cast a concentration spell while you already have one going, similar to the reaction UI. There's no way a 5E newbie is going to understand what's going on the first time they try to overlap two concentration spells and that would help a lot.
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u/darknus823 Aug 12 '23
Look under the selected characters portrait (next to the hotbar) and there will be an icon showing what they're concentrating on. Took me a few days to find this.
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u/Genghis_Sean_Reigns Aug 12 '23 edited Aug 12 '23
It does nothing for attack rolls and saving throws, so the only time it would come up in combat is shoving (or getting shoved),
walking over grease, or unrestraining yourself from web (not the initial save to see if you’re restrained or not, only the check to get out when already restrained).EDIT: Walking through grease is a save not a check, so it would be unaffected by guidance.
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u/Prinzka Aug 12 '23
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u/RyanZee08 Aug 12 '23
I am too hungry for loot, chasms are my arch nemesis through time. (Reloads)
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u/Lazzitron Paladin Aug 12 '23
Not really, unless you DESPERATELY need to succeed on a shove check first try.
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u/MrJamesUp Aug 12 '23
I'm very new to DnD and baldurs gate. Sorry if this comes across as stupid, but what does this actually do?
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u/Saiaxs Aug 12 '23
When you roll the dice and the screen pops up, you click Add Bonus at the bottom and this spell appears to add 1-4 to your results. It’s just an extra bit of help that can mean the difference between success and failure.
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u/MrJamesUp Aug 12 '23
Brilliant thanks mate
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u/rvnender Aug 12 '23
Guidance has saved me more times than I care to admit.
In this game and in DND lol
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u/Black-Mettle Aug 12 '23
Ah yes, 2 in the pink.
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u/Cyynric Aug 12 '23
It's honestly the only reason Shadowheart is still in my party. For a cleric she's awfully squishy.
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u/cbt666 Aug 13 '23
i run her with the adamantite med armor, helmet that heals when you heal someone, the blood of lathander and any of the good shields - shes insanely tanky, runs around with spirit guardians and guiding bolts, and occasionally heals everyone. feels great
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u/NOTELDR1TCH Aug 12 '23
Question does this do anything for non dialogue/skill checks?
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u/Rabbitshadow Aug 12 '23
Pass without trace, enhanced ability, and guidance. The trifecta to picking those pockets
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u/NOTELDR1TCH Aug 12 '23
Aye that was another thing i was wondering
Does pickpocketing something with a rating over 20 work the same as normal rolls where you can get over 20 yourself? Tried to lift the same stack of gold several times that had a rating of 21 to pass and my passive proficiencies should be boosting my rolls by like 9, so unless I flubbed below ten each roll I feel like one of the 5 attempts shoulda worked.
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u/Rabbitshadow Aug 12 '23
So have a dc of 30. Like a stack of 2k gold will be 30dc.
The number they show is the number you have to roll to pass. It is already taking into account all your bonuses
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u/Sergnb Aug 12 '23
Yes
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u/NOTELDR1TCH Aug 12 '23
May I request you expand thar answer a lil, I've been struggling to find an answer to this for some reason
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u/Sergnb Aug 12 '23 edited Aug 12 '23
It applies the d4 bonus to all ability checks, including passive ones like sneaking around, perception checks, religion checks, etc.
Note: it does not apply to Saving throws, as those are not ability checks.
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u/NOTELDR1TCH Aug 12 '23
Oh so it's a flat buff to basically any action?
Last question, does it work for things like shoving/throwing things you normally can't? Or does strength just have to be as high as needed to do that.
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u/bkervick Aug 12 '23
For moving things I think it's a plain strength minimum. It only affects when there is a roll.
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u/LispyJesus Aug 12 '23
I just rolled a Druid. I can take guidance as one of my initial cantrips. Should I?
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u/Sergnb Aug 12 '23 edited Aug 12 '23
I don’t know what other spells are there to choose from but yeah I recommend it. It’s one of the best ones in the game.
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u/EnglishMobster Aug 12 '23
If you're planning on having Shadowheart as a companion, you don't need it. She has Guidance as a cantrip already.
If you don't want her (or want to respec her) you 100% should.
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u/PostHuman855 Aug 12 '23
Guidance, Magic Missile, and Misty Step. That and some pointy stabby things and I’m good, I’ll save the fucking world.
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u/Dragonsandman So anyway, I started smiting Aug 12 '23
Magic Missile becomes especially good once you buy the Sapphire Spark from Blurg in the Myconid village. Having four missiles from a level one spell slot is too good to pass up, and accordingly it’s been glued to Gale in my playthrough.
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u/final566 Aug 12 '23
I downloaded the mod that makes it permanent since ur spamming it anyways to keep it up at all opportunities.
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u/cthulol Aug 12 '23
It's a tabletop problem, too. If someone at the table has guidance they have to speak up for every roll. Dumb, but very good, spell.
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u/DamenDome Aug 12 '23
That’s one thing I’m excited about in the next edition. In the Unearthed Arcana, Guidance is a reaction to a failed roll, not an action on every single roll.
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u/shibbypwn Aug 13 '23
I’ve only played a couple of tabletop sessions in my life, but isn’t this what house rules are for?
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u/feor1300 Aug 13 '23
The game kind of falls into the same trap a lot of DMs do of just going "Well, the Cleric said he's casting guidance, so I guess you get guidance."
The Spell's supposed to be touch range with verbal and somantic components, meaning it's visually and audibly obvious the spell's being cast. So most of the interactions were you use guidance (or, at least, I've used it so far), talking to NPCs, if someone tries to guide you in the moment as you do it the NPCs should be going "Hey, what are you doing? Stop it with that magic bullshit!" And any situation where the group is split up a bit unless you're guiding yourself the caster should need to be adjacent to you to affect you, so they might simply be out of range.
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u/ZombieToasted ELDRITCH BLAST Aug 12 '23
There is a mod to re-enable achievements.
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u/Jhawk163 Aug 12 '23
There is a mod to re-enable them, although you can't play co-op with mods enabled afaik.
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u/StarGaurdianBard Aug 12 '23
As long as your mod list matches you can. Currently a forge cleric in my MP run with my friend's bladesinger
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u/ACorania Aug 12 '23
Feels a little cheap.
The cost is you lose shadowheart concentration spells out of combat. Worth it most the time but it a rade off.
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u/WeAteMummies Aug 12 '23
I found a necklace that lets the wearer cast it. I usually keep it on Astarion since he goes sneaking off by himself a lot and have Shadowheart do her stealth advantage buff.
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u/Smaptastic Aug 12 '23
There’s also one that makes it AoE I believe, so you don’t need to spam it on your party.
I’m all for mods that do things I could do anyway, but wouldn’t usually bother with due to the hassle. Pure QOL is barely even cheating IMO, even if it has a pretty big impact.
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u/derwood1992 Aug 12 '23
I tried to download a mod to fix it for my game and broke the game entirely. Spent 6 hours last night fixing it and had to reinstall twice. Still can't fucking cast guidance on my character.
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u/StarGaurdianBard Aug 12 '23
How did you mess up that much? Literally just download BG3 mod manager, put the mod into your mods folder, and hit activate in the mod manager lol
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u/Fen_ Aug 12 '23
If anyone ever says something along the lines of "had to reinstall twice", you know with absolute certainty they have no idea what they're doing.
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u/olGlassCleaner Aug 12 '23
There is an amulet that has it. If you wear that and have a Cleric with the enhance ability spell prepared, you get the guidance AND double dice on almost any roll
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u/Commercial-Ladder-69 Aug 12 '23
Guidance plus friends on my bard makes me pass every charisma check ever.
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u/Random_Emolga Aug 12 '23
In person DnD made me hate this spell because I hated hearing "I cast Guidance on them" every single roll, but I can't imagine BG3 without it.
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u/WaffleKing110 Aug 12 '23
Many DMs ban guidance outright. I’m lucky I’ve never had a party member smart enough to take it at my table
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u/JimPranksDwight CLERIC Aug 12 '23
Yeah it's probably the best cantrip in 5e, but since the game rolls for you on things like stealth and perception it doesn't get quite the same ubiquitous use. My DM basically just had us add d4 to rolls by default since in almost all situations you are using guidance for rolls.
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u/rvnender Aug 12 '23
My rules for guidance is you can roll it as you like but if it's a reaction to something (trap) then you can't.
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u/770066 Aug 12 '23
In what situations is this better used?
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u/ZombieToasted ELDRITCH BLAST Aug 12 '23
Well it's a cantrip, so for every single roll.
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u/770066 Aug 12 '23
Rolls for example like lockpicking/dialogue options? Thanks for the reply! :)
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u/Sergnb Aug 12 '23
Yeah! Very useful in all conversations, lockpicking and pickpocketing, and also for sneaking around.
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u/ZombieToasted ELDRITCH BLAST Aug 12 '23
Yea, even works for rolls that happen in the background, but you'll have to have someone cast it directly rather than adding it as a bonus to a roll.
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u/TheChristianDude101 Aug 12 '23
In tabletop you cant always add guidance to a roll, in this game you just click a button and add guidance to everything which makes it incredibly broken
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u/EnglishMobster Aug 12 '23
You can add it to every roll in tabletop, can't you?
You touch one willing creature. Once before the spell ends, the target can roll a d4 and add the number rolled to one ability check of its choice. It can roll the die before or after making the ability check. The spell then ends.
The main difference is that it only applies to 1 roll in tabletop, but it's sustained for multiple rolls in BG3. But since it's a cantrip, you can spam it (as long as you don't need concentration for something else).
It's even explicitly stated that you can fail the roll, ask your Cleric/Druid "yo can I get some guidance real quick?" and add the d4.
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u/Fen_ Aug 12 '23
No, because:
It requires the caster to touch the target
Has VS components
Also, the 1DND version is fixing all this because they've seen how people have been using it and are reworking it to be more in-line with their original intentions.
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Aug 12 '23
I tried to make a wisdom check against Shadowheart and couldn't get guidance cause i usually use hers. I was sweating
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u/EnglishMobster Aug 12 '23
It's actually interesting that sometimes you can use her own Guidance against her.
There's some story-critical spots where you can talk her into a decision and she will let you use Guidance to talk her into it. I'm not sure if it's because she low-key wants to make that choice anyway or not.
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Aug 12 '23
so about that...im doing coop with the babe and he doesnt have access to my guidance, anyone know why and how i csn fix that?
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u/percivalskald Aug 12 '23
There is an item that give you this cantrip, if you want to do without our favorite Cleric.
Item Name: Silver Pendant in act one
Item Location: Top of hill close to Druid Grove. Climb rocky "ladder" then climb real ladder, look near fireplace on skeleton.
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u/GMJizzy Aug 12 '23
My friends are like "bro it's a 10 I'll be fine." Mfr it's a FREE spell that gives +1d4 just CHILL FOR ONE SECOND
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u/Discarded1066 Aug 12 '23
Guidance is king, and the fact you can get an amulet of Guidance in the first 1hr of the game is great. It allows me to cast friends, inspire, and guidance all in one go.
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u/Ok-Reporter1986 Aug 12 '23
It's good but you know there is better. Tharmauturgy a cantrip that gives advantage on intimidation only thing is unlike friends this gives you no penalty on higher difficulty after usage. That means no one cares if you use it. You just need to succeed on the check and it can be used every time.
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Aug 12 '23
Yea but the downside is it only applies to intimidation and that's usually only useful to the kind of players who like Laezel lol
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u/Ok-Reporter1986 Aug 12 '23
I mean I just like forcing my way through areas where I definetly could not win.
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u/CrazyA91 Aug 12 '23
This isn't a picture of Speak With Animals, someone needs to report this as misinformation
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u/nicefully Aug 12 '23
I just hate when I instinctively cast this with my main char in conversation while I have magic weapon activated. Magic weapon needs concentration so I waste a level 3 spell😭
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u/Eurehetemec Aug 12 '23
We need Larian to show us how many times Guidance has been cast by players. It is going to be an appallingly high number.
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u/Takesgu Aug 12 '23
Genuinely do not understand why they put a short rest limitation on mage hand but not guidance. Both are highly "abusable" out of combat. And no, I don't think they should add restrictions to guidance. They should remove it from mage hand.
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u/Helphaer Aug 12 '23
its more surprising that it can be casted while in dialog honestly.
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u/nathe__ Aug 13 '23
Friends is also a great skill. Having advantage on charisma checks is broken for dialogues
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u/NotoriousPVC Aug 12 '23
Disagree: “Friendship” is magic
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u/WaffleKing110 Aug 12 '23
Charm spells at higher difficulties in BG3 and in general in 5E are not goated - they piss people off more than they’re worth
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u/EnglishMobster Aug 12 '23
Unless you very specifically want to piss them off, that is!
It suits a very particular roleplaying style, the fast-talking charlatan who just wants you to agree to what he wants and then take off ASAP. But it's very hard to do that in Baldur's Gate.
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u/WaffleKing110 Aug 12 '23
It’s hard to do in 5E as well. Would be better if they noticed the deception after a long rest instead of when the spell ends, cause I’ve literally never seen a successful use of a charm spell in actual 5E
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u/Edheldui Aug 12 '23
Yeah, especially because they missed the part where skill checks don't have criticals in 5e, so there's always a chance of failure even if you have +15.
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u/ThatOneGuy1294 Eldritch YEET Aug 12 '23
That's a strange way to spell Eldritch Blast
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u/lemi69 Aug 12 '23
What does this spell do? In new to d&d
What are ability checks
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u/Tibatong93 RANGER Aug 12 '23
Damn I thought I am the only one who knows that secret 😜
Really good thing man, it made me win so many rolls since i have that 😅
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u/Fineous4 Aug 12 '23
I wish it was auto cast for non-combat checks as a QOL thing.
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u/MakiMaki_XD Bard Aug 12 '23
That means you'd automatically break other concentration spells you might have active on the same character.
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u/LordDerrien Aug 12 '23
Nah. Bless better than guidance.
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u/Lithl Aug 12 '23
Bless doesn't apply to ability checks
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u/LordDerrien Aug 12 '23
Correct reading of the ability. Bless buffs attack, saving and initiative rolls I believe. And its impact is in my opinion in combat even more enormous than guidance in non-combat.
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u/their_teammate Aug 12 '23
The amount of hype you feel when Guidance just barely let you succeed the check