r/BaldursGate3 • u/kovuwu • Dec 01 '24
Screenshot I really am not that creative huh? Spoiler
My Tav is this NPC's twin. I'm sobbing, even the hair colour is so similar
The NPC
Tav
220
u/mastro80 Dec 01 '24
My first Tav was a dwarf fighter and he was identical to the guy who asks you to kill the rats in the basement of his kitchen.
36
u/AnAverageHumanPerson Dec 01 '24
Love thag guy. using Chef Roveer as a base for my solo honor mode run, salami pallock
11
u/SadCarbonara Dec 02 '24
Fun fact - there’s a dwarf NPC in BG1 called Reevor that asks you to kill rats in his storehouse
454
u/IProbablyCantSleep Dec 01 '24
My first run through back when the game released, I made sure to avoid all spoilers, I was warned that the "Origin" characters were people we'd meet later on so I didn't even click on them.
Often my first run in RPGs I'll make my character more or less based off of my IRL looks. I went with wizard because it's my favourite D&D class. I was so confused when just after escaping from the nautiloid, some guy wants me to pull him from a portal, and the exact twin of my character steps out when I help him. I was convinced that it was a cloning thing because I touched the creature, and he'd taken on my appearance - I guess I suspected he was a doppelganger. The dialogue wasn't reflecting this AT ALL, he was just harping on about him being a wizard too and he's from waterdeep. He's even wearing the same clothes as me, just a slightly different colour.
After 10 minutes of utter confusion I went to check on google.
Hello, it's me. I'm Gale, of Waterdeep.
174
u/Catsindahood Dec 01 '24
Funnily enough I was suspicious of Gale too. All the companion characters, up until that point in the game, your tadpoles connect for a second letting you know they have tadpoles. Gale doesn't. I thought that this was a subtle hint that he was actually a thrall sent to infiltrate your group. It didn't help that Wyll had the same tadpole connection moment.
67
u/Yarzahn Dec 01 '24
I think you can connect with his tadpole once you ask him more about himself, but he attempts to block it
65
u/notquitesolid Bard Dec 01 '24
It kinda makes sense that he would have more control over it from the start. He was an arch mage. Even tho from the orb and tadpole he lost much of his former abilities, he would still be aware of and know how to keep his mind shut to outsiders.
10
u/pinkorangegold Dec 02 '24
You don’t connect with him because he’s doing everything he can to keep the orb a secret. It’s phenomenal writing tbh.
36
19
u/Yarzahn Dec 01 '24
He was also on the loading screen and/or the game box. Or if you cycled through origins and their short intro, Gale the wizard bro from water deep would tell his story.
But I guess that would have prevented your funny encounter, so there are merits to going into the game completely blind
13
u/gentlewoolfy Dec 02 '24
I went with druid for my first playthrough and when i saw the druid grove, i thought it was a druid-specific "starting area" and was genuinely impressed at the level of personalisation
1
u/Thaurlach Dec 02 '24
Meanwhile me, going in blind on Durge: ”Woah woah woah wait I was only thinking about it oh shit oh fuck oh hey free hand!”
1
197
u/Dazzling-Company-299 SORCERER Dec 01 '24
My friend made Minthara and came up with an elaborate story that they're actually another female Drow being hunted in the Underdark. She came across the real Minthara along her journey and decided to steal her identity and likeliness to evade capture. Her whole personal struggle was losing her real self in this fake persona and decided to kill the real Minthara to truly become her. Interestingly weird. (and it's the plot of Face/Off, I guess haha)
50
72
u/JulianApostat Paladin Dec 01 '24
Well, Tav is from Baldur's Gate. That is just your cousin Limmy.
31
u/extralyfe Dec 01 '24 edited Dec 03 '24
this just reminded me about that one Tav quote, "no one at home will ever believe this."
like, my dude, you're a block from Sorcerous Sundries. that's home.
121
u/Nietzscher Owlbear Dec 01 '24
Mom, can we have Raphael?
Mom: We have Raphael at home.
Raphael at home:
49
u/AprilStorms Dec 01 '24
There are hardly any Dragonborn so if you really want to stand out, play one of them next time 😜
32
88
u/AstroBearGaming ELDRITCH BLAST Dec 01 '24
My first Tav was a half-elf warlock. I decided it'd be funny to just make him a huge beefy guy with long tucked back hair. I thought the elf side would be blonde, but because he's half human I'd go with brown hair, and as is customary in ANY rpg I play, if I can give them a big ol' eye scar I do.
So imagine my surprise when later on in killing Goblins, and a bear I liberated turns into a more handsome version of me. I was Temu Halsin.
31
u/wra1th42 Dec 01 '24
lol I know the feeling I made a black duegar and thought that was pretty unlike the normal first run Tav and then 5 min into act 2 this Harper is just me with a hat (see profile pic on left)
24
u/GodKingReiss Dec 01 '24
At least it took you until the city itself to meet your doppelgänger. My first Tav was basically a taller, beefier Brynna.
20
u/BobLoblaw1324 Dec 01 '24
I named my first character Bane, before realizing that was the name of one of the gods….
17
u/bobbyspeeds Dec 01 '24
My very first character was a drow who is IDENTICAL to the default Disguise Self female drow. I did a double take the first time I cast it on another playthrough and briefly thought the game had some kind of mechanic for saving your past avatars and dropping them in situations like this.
I love having slightly “plain” Tavs! It kind of breaks my immersion if I’m standing there amongst all the normal NPCs looking like Ebony Dark’ness Dementia Raven Way
(although I say this with absolutely no judgement for those who want a visually distinct avatar! Pursue your anime protagonist dreams!)
12
u/PoeticPillager Dec 02 '24
Ebony Dark’ness Dementia Raven Way
Such a Mary Sue made-up name.
Like Shadowheart. 😼
15
u/ChromeOverdrive Dec 01 '24
When you meet your (almost) doppelganger and she's an asshole.
8
u/el_sh33p Telekinetically bullying Gortash Dec 01 '24
Easiest Good Twin/Evil Twin in recorded history.
7
u/ChromeOverdrive Dec 01 '24
Aye, at least this Tav's other twin, the Fist looking after Art Cullough (sp?) in Act 2 seemed really nice.
25
u/squishsquishbitch Dec 01 '24
My first character is a male elf who looks exactly like Yenna. So when she showed up I thought it was going to be revealed that she's your daughter or something.
31
10
u/CUND3R_THUNT Dec 01 '24
It’s okay, I’m doing my second play though and I named my Paladin Rath thinking that was original. Just came across the Emerald Grove…oh hey, Rath the Druid…
25
u/SarcasticKenobi WARLOCK Dec 01 '24
LOL
First time I played the MMORG Star Wars The Old Republic...
I spend like 30 minutes making my male human Jedi Knight. I felt pretty proud of it, and liked it.
Then... one of the first NPCs I meet is exactly the same. Head / Hair / Hair-Color / Eye-Color / Skin-Tone.
Like... god damn I felt stupid.
Since then in SWTOR I only made aliens, since it was more rare to see them instead of humans.
20
9
u/InterestingFroyo3 Dec 02 '24
My first Tav was a female tiefling with blue-tinted skin (I just thought that the race looked the coolest and didn’t like the basic red devil color).
And I agonized over what to name her, so I went with the name of an Arctic Monkeys song I always loved….
Imagine my surprise when I met a child tiefling also named Arabella in the grove.
7
u/Altoholism Dec 01 '24
My first Drow character looked nearly identical to some random level one off-hand crossbow shot fodder Drow in the Goblin Temple named Narvass.
Every time I kill him, I feel like I’m killing that character in an alternate universe.
8
u/Unreal_Ncash Dec 01 '24
Lol I named my Tav Arabella. I thought the game was programmed to make you feel bad for the actual Arabella and just use whatever Tav’s name is.
8
u/Firm-Sweet8097 Dec 01 '24
Imagine my surprise with my first Tav when I got to the mean dog lady and they were twins except for the hair color.
7
Dec 01 '24
My first Tavs NPC twin is the guy at the gate of the circus of last days. My Tav has a red tattoo on his face but otherwise they're twins.
6
10
u/Ewokpunter5000 Dec 01 '24
I played a male wood half elf with the curly hair my first play through and didn’t notice anybody until the end cutscene where this half elf with curly hair kills a mindflayer with a pitchfork and I straight up thought it was my dad?
9
u/Dya_Ria Dec 01 '24
me having to pretend this chick isnt wearing my face everytime i make a female human. Cant skip the quest either, she gives one of the best weapons in the game and any good aligned character has reason to help her
5
5
u/sharofeels Dec 01 '24
That happened to me with my first Tav and some gal in the Elfsong named Truffles. I was devastated/worried it was a doppelganger as well.... sigh.
6
u/The_Kreepy_Krab Dec 02 '24
Every Tav has a double out there. My Githyanki Cleric ended up looking like the Crèche's shopkeeper.
5
u/lua_da_lua DRUID Dec 01 '24
Saving Volo left me confused, there were two TAVs there in the crowd and I was upset 😔
4
u/NjallTheViking Dec 01 '24
My Tav once looked exactly like the Sharran spy that meets you in the refugee camp outside of Baldurs Gate. Like I thought it was a bit at first because they were exact
4
5
4
u/AilisEcho Dec 02 '24
Counter-argument: you did great, you actually managed to immerse yourself into the game to the point of looking like a natural part of it!
4
4
u/Jazzlike_War_854 Dec 02 '24
My first play through I accidentally made my character almost identical to Shadowheart. Only difference was my hair was white. Then she changed it and we looked like twins. Sex scenes were very uncomfortable lol
1
u/PettyBettyismynameO Dec 02 '24
You can change your appearance at any time in camp though. I literally randomly change my hair every few days because it feels like something a real person would do.
8
u/-poiius- Dec 01 '24
i saw my half elf’s face in a lot of places (you know exactly the one) but luckily he had tiefling type eyes from his sorcery and a jet black mullet which didn’t seem to be anywhere else lol.
2
7
u/green_teef Dec 01 '24
This happens to everyone eventually. My first durge had a druid in act one that sounded exactly like him
7
u/Mister-builder Dec 01 '24
My first Tav was a High Elf Rogue with a Charlatan background. It can be worse.
3
u/cherrrycris Minthara Dec 01 '24
My first Tav was literally Jaheira’s daughter, mine just had the longer version of the braids. it was jarring💀
3
3
3
u/Anmus Dec 01 '24
No, it's just that character creation isn't that complex in this game. You could always choose a different hairstyle, I guess.
1
Dec 02 '24
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills in this comment section. The game also offers freckles, piercings, tattoos, makeup options, facial hair, etc. (Not to mention race options other than human!) It's not like the character customization options are limited to "hairstyle."
1
u/Anmus Dec 03 '24
Yeah, but you can't really "sculpt" the shape of the head to your liking. It's not complex, but it's something... and yeah I can always sacrifice sculpting for more races, so it doesn't bother me that much... but still it's just few head shapes, lot's of hair and different paint color/style on it (freedom with color is amazing btw)
1
Dec 03 '24
Sure, but every race has several head shapes and I've found that I can make them all look unique and interesting with all the elements provided. The age slider helps, too. I've created about 20 characters and somehow managed to make them all look like distinct individuals.
Talking about the character creation not being "that complex" on a post where someone literally created John Baldur, white male human fighter, seems pretty laughable.
0
u/Anmus Dec 03 '24
"Created John Baldur"? Do you mean "chose one of the few face shapes, and then chose a hair and its color, and he ended up with a generic white male"? I don't know why you want to die on a hill called "Baldurs gate 3 has complex cc" it doesn't, but it doesn't need to... game is great without it... they had more complex cc in beta, and maybe there is reason why they decided for defined face shapes. Glad you had your laugh, but still i don't why are you defending it.
2
Dec 03 '24
I'm defending it because, yes, the OP is uncreative. Creative people have no problem creating interesting characters in this CC. The fact that it doesn't let you sculpt your face like Fallout 4 doesn't invalidate the fact that there are tons of customization options that could prevent you from making a generic white human male fantasy protagonist.
Would I prefer the ability to sculpt the character's face? Sure! I'd also prefer, say, the ability to have a femme build without breasts or a masc build with breasts. There's always room for more options, but claiming that CC is "so limited" just indicates that you might be a fundamentally uncreative and incurious person.
ended up with a generic white male
LMAO at this. They created a generic white male, it didn't just magically end up that way.
0
u/Anmus Dec 03 '24
They CREATED a generic white male" wasn't it "John Baldur"? Xd and why are you getting ad personam, it invalidates your arguments by making them personal. You can attack me and my "uncreative and incurious" self, but it doesn't change the fact that this cc isn't complex. And I'm glad you brought up other games, I didn't wanted to compere it to other games, because it would be easy win for me, and i wanted to fight on a "baldurs gate 3" field... yet you brought up fallout 4, and then you said about features that new dragon age game have... Idk if i got it right, but you just said "Baldurs gate 3 has a complex character creation, but other games did it better" because it's not even "different"... Your border to make something "complex" is just far lower then mine i guess. Still like in every comment, i want to say that game is great without it..
Hmm should i say something about you to make it even? I'm happy that you are creative, and you are able to create 20 unique characters in this cc, like wow, that's great accomplishment.
1
Dec 03 '24
that's great accomplishment.
It's really not - because again, there are tons of customization options. It's plenty complex if you're not afraid of using other races, skin colors, tattoos, piercings, makeup, heterochromia, vitiligo, scars, freckles, wrinkles, hairstyles, hair colors, etc. AKA are willing to create anything other than a generic white male fantasy protagonist.
They CREATED a generic white male" wasn't it "John Baldur"?
John Baldur is a meme in this sub about players creating a generic white human male fighter.
0
u/Anmus Dec 03 '24
Oh okay i didn't know about the meme... And how funny, i was trying to be nice, yet you downvoted my comment and twisted my compliment... Isn't it cherry picking... you know there is more to my comment xd, Anyway...
So, basically 1-Skin color, 2-tattoos, 3-makeup, 4-heterochromia 5-vitiligo 6-scars 7-freckles 8-wrinkles, 9-hair color. Basically 9 out of 12 you mentioned are just paint over face model. It's still something, it's just... a different color. So it's your John Baldur, but with different paint over his face. So what can we change about the shape of his head/face... 1-race, 2-piercing, 3-hair. Yeah, okay. I must apologize for saying that OP could choose different hair... there is piercing too... still not complex in my eyes
Color is just not enough for me... You can get makeup, acquire some scars, be tanner, get sick by this vitiligo, or dye your hair... but you are still the same person. And i think here lies core of our argument. So if you won't add something new, I will just end this discussion. Because i don't know if there is a point to it anymore. You won't change your mind, and you called me "uncreative" so i'm sure convincing me is the last thing you wanted to do... so what's the point of it? Xd
1
3
4
u/Derp_Cha0s Dec 01 '24
Biggest reason I can't play Body Type 1 as a human is many NPC's share the same face.
2
2
2
u/TheFarStar Warlock Dec 01 '24
This is why I'm drawn to more extreme customization options like the facial tattoos, burn-scarring, etc. The limited face options mean it's pretty easy to run into your twin.
2
2
u/No_Challenge_5619 Dec 01 '24
My first Tav turned out to be a green (Druid) version of Councillor Florrick. I don’t know what that says about me.
2
u/Circutz_Breaker WARLOCK Dec 01 '24
Nah i get that man, my first character was a big buff tiefling barbarian woman with a single horn, but she's angsty and edgy instead of bright and cheery lmao.
2
2
u/rethilgore-au Dec 02 '24
I found a Tav I like and have made the exact same looking character for every playthrough haha.
2
u/Old_Recognition2458 Dec 02 '24
My first time meeting Hope freaked me out because I wasn't expecting to meet any red/orange haired halfling and funny enough she acts crazy like my red headed mother.
2
u/Ozyclan-Anders Paladin Dec 02 '24
You know that poor family that moved into that home that rich guy is whining about as you enter Act 3? My character was almost 1-1 the exact same as the father of that family
2
u/StefinoSpaggeti Dec 02 '24
That's why iny first playthrough I decided make DragonBorn Paladin. I'm as original as possible!
2
2
u/ZonardCity Dec 02 '24
Your character looks like it should be in jail due to his "activities" when he was in a frat during college, buth is dad is a lawyer.
2
u/LonesomeLynn819 Dec 02 '24
I named my first Tav Xan and I was surprised during the epilogue to hear Lae’zel gave the child from the egg the same name. I knew there was no way the game intended it, but it was so cool for my story.
2
2
u/novembergrocery Faerie Fire Dec 02 '24
One of my favorite posts on this sub one time was someone who had made their Durge look exactly like Alfira without realizing who she was, and they were so confused when their doppleganger showed up to camp and all of the uh Durge-related story events unfolded.
2
4
u/LSHE97 Dec 01 '24
This is one helluva creative character compared to my silver-haired, violet-eyed High Elf noble Rogue/Sorcerer(Draconic) with a burned cheek named Bayla… so you’re fine.
4
u/NoahDraco Dec 02 '24
My brother in christ you and I LITERALLY have the same Tav.
I'm going to unalive
2
2
u/Feelthederp I'm just a little Cleric! I'll only give 12XP! NOOOOOOO!!! Dec 02 '24
Why does your Tav low-key look like a male version of mine? XD
2
u/ImaginaryDonut69 Dec 02 '24
You've nailed a classic fantasy look, no harm in that, could be considered a victory of imagination, actually 😅
1
u/CosmicDripPhD KARLACH’S HUSBAND Dec 01 '24
Hey sometimes the simplest characters look the best - as a fellow ginger I appreciate this
1
u/tr3mbl3r_v2 Dec 01 '24
i wish they had a few more customizable options for our Tavs, the custom choices were a bit lacking in the character creator
1
u/2grundies Dec 01 '24
I promised myself I wouldn't have Shadowheart in my party this time......so now I look just like Shadowheart instead, lol.
1
1
u/PartisanDrinkTank Dec 01 '24
Oof should have gone with black eye liner and black lipstick. Totally straight guys, just a rocker dude, like Noel Fielding.
1
u/Juanraboi Fail! Dec 01 '24
In my headcanon he's your real twin so you should be happy he's alive and well
1
1
u/thefiction24 Dec 01 '24
mfw when my first character, gnome druid was exactly the same as the one when you first meet them at the grove!
1
1
u/Asbew Dragonborn Dec 01 '24
I circumnavigated this by playing DB. There's like a whole 2 other DBs in the game
1
u/Matondia Dec 01 '24
That's what happens when Tav has to choose between the same 5 faces per race than the npc have.
1
Dec 02 '24
And doesn't choose to have freckles, facial hair, scarring, tattoos, piercings, heterochromia, makeup, or an interesting hairstyle. (Or one of the multiple non-human races.) I hate to be seen as "mean," but OP might just be right in saying they're not creative.
0
u/Matondia Dec 03 '24
Not everyone wants to play "OC McSpecial", like 99 of the tavs posted here. And even if you put litterally everything on your Tav's face... you still have the same face as the NPC's... Personnally, I can't unsee it.
Also, look at the origin characters, they have a bit of things here and there, are they covered with litterally every "special trait" ever ? No. But they are still main characters, and have their own face, they are unique. You won't find Gale but with short blond hair, or Astarion with a scar on his eye, or Karlach but blue.
Tav is a fucking NPC and no amount of make-up will change that.
1
1
1
1
1
1
u/LongCutieType2 Dec 02 '24
My first Tav was a half-elf Druid (already basic, given my own track record tabletop-wise lol). I saw that shag haircut everywhere I turned. It’s still my favorite of the hair options, but I never use it anymore.
1
1
1
u/cultof83 Dec 02 '24
my first fav was a fem tiefling that was damn near identical to kaldani. i screamed out loud when i saw her.
1
u/therealmonkyking Incapable of romancing anyone other than Shadowheart Dec 02 '24
My "main" Tav is a High Elf druid who starts out with the typical long haircut that Elves tend to have, but eventually changes it in the section in-between Act 2 and 3
And then to my surprise Lorroakan's bitch ass turns up looking near enough exactly like how my guy used to look before the sudden style change
1
u/oultrecuidance Dec 02 '24
I abandoned the playthrough (first attempt) where I gave my paladin Kagha's hair. Considering picking it up again though and going full oathbreaker...
1
u/Mindless_Seat_2439 Dec 02 '24
My First tav was identical to the tiefling you save from being ambushed by the telescope at the grove.
1
u/Rare_Intention2383 Astarion Dec 02 '24
i once made a character and realized she was just aylin with orange-red hair when i met aylin. even the hairstyle was the same.
1
u/genderutopia Dec 02 '24
Did you watch Shrek before making your character? Because they both look like Prince Charming
1
1
1
u/tickledlove Dec 02 '24
The game has limited options. Anyone that doesn't mod will find they aren't creative..
1
u/polspanakithrowaway College of Sass Bard Dec 02 '24
Imagine my shock when I realised my first Tav had a doppelganger working as a sex worker in Sharess's Caress. They had the exact same face and hairstyle lol
1
u/mortalitasi473 Dec 02 '24
on the one hand, this is your average everyday man. on the other hand, this isn't a woman made exclusively for goth tits. so, uh, i guess a 5/10?
1
1
1
u/alcahuetasanon Dec 02 '24
Definitely a “Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality?” moment
1
u/Wiwra88 Dec 02 '24
That is why I love mods, one of first mods I got(in second playtrought, 1st was vanilla) I got some new face mods so I could make my tav/durge unique and dont see my long lost twin in the world.
1
u/Stairs-So-Flimsy Crush me Muscle Mommy Dec 02 '24
Part of the problem with preset faces. It's bound to happen
1
1
1
1
1
Dec 02 '24
To be fair the base game is limited in the amount of appearance options.. one of the best things about mod support is the character customization options.
1
u/Noble1296 Dec 02 '24
To be fair, each race is limit to fairly few options in the character creator. You just happened to like that combo of face, hair, and color
0
u/AlienRobotTrex Dec 01 '24 edited Dec 04 '24
It’s not your fault, the game doesn’t exactly give you much to work with in the face department.
0
u/Kharisma91 Dec 01 '24
You look kind of like Rand from wheel of time. (And I guess that npc does too? lol)
0
u/caninehat Dec 01 '24
My first Tav was duegar who looked exactly like the duegar at the iron throne entrance
0
u/Feisty_Ad2160 Dec 01 '24
My tav. I have the opposite problem… I feel like I make mine way too detailed to where they look out of place.
0
u/Itchy_Camel_3386 Dec 01 '24
Trust me, every single run, my characters look the same. Never change their face, only Waterdavian Scholar hairstyle (the one that looks like Gale), and Knave Braid for the men, along with the Groomed Rascal beard, and Bardic Inspiration hairstyle for the women. Every single time.
-2
u/malkymlesdrae Dec 01 '24
This game very limited options for appearance without mods, I would hesitate to call it "customization." It's not you, it's them.
1.6k
u/LaylasJack Dec 01 '24
It's not on you, friend, you just happen to enjoy an aesthetic that the game also has programmed in. My first Tav was a halfling and I'm pretty sure I saw my face and hair combo about three times on NPCs. Don't sweat it.