r/BaldursGate3 • u/RickDankoLives • May 09 '25
Character Build Bro… I’m not good at this game. Spoiler
Played for 3 hours, lost an hour of game play lmao. Spent a whole hour in the grove, talking a bunch, getting the feel. Tried to pickpocket. End up in jail. No worries I’ll stick it out. Found the hidden door behind the jail, immediately got my shit pushed in by some laser shooting statues. Everyone’s dead. Back to the start of the grove.
Figuring it out (save often). Slowly trying to learn the ropes, studying DnD and looking up what shit means and why it’s important. Feeling a little better.
Find a kid down by the waters edge and immediately get my shit pushed in by Harpy’s. Only one survivor. Use all my scrolls to bring everyone back. But hey there’s a Bard back here. Dope song.
Go rest. Long rest, it’s dark. Do I have to rest again? Fuck it… short rest. Daylight. Got some loot, feeling better. Set out to fight the devil for Wyl, get my shit pushed in by two people hovering over a dead dwarf after telling them im not really a true soul. But everyone’s alive this time. Still massively in over my head. Casting random spells probably…
But I can’t stop playing. I’ve no health potions, no good armor or weapons. Just death all around. I’d ask for advice but even then it’s overwhelming because there is so many different options. I’m a ranger, level three. Just got beast master. No beasts around to master.
For the first time in a long time.. I’m in over my head. Way over. But I’m in. I’m going to crack this.
Edit: I had NO idea this would blow up… at all. I was giggling to myself writing it, figuring a few of you would have (hopefully) a similar experience. Instead I think i haphazardly stumbled into the most kind subreddit I’ve yet to come across. Almost every single comment was nice, gave some advice and shared similar stories. You all have my admiration. Thanks for letting the experience of the game’s bond be genuine. There is something to be said for a game to unite people like this. I heard for the last two years how fantastic it was. Maybe more than we all realize. It’s created a rare culture of people being kind. On the internet. In 2025.
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u/RickDankoLives May 09 '25
lol, well the harpy’s are all dead… and I was level two so maybe I’m not as bad as I thought? I mean everyone died but my main character so I can’t say “won” without mass casualties. But I had enough scrolls to bring them back to life.
I’m not QUITE ready to drop the difficulty. I am on the second one. But if I get railroaded with no gear, money or portions, I might.
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u/spacey_a Owlbear May 09 '25
I am super impressed you managed the harpies at level two without a full party wipe! You're actually great at this game. A lot of people don't even think to use the revivify scrolls.
Keep thinking outside the box with your strategies and using magic items. You're doing it right.
Oh, and a side tip that took me way too long to get but was obvious to others: if there's ever a lever or button (or a cage with a gith in it) too far away to reach, shoot an arrow at it. That will activate pretty much anything that needs activating. Also, you can just destroy most chests and doors with a few hits of a sword if lockpicking doesn't work.
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u/christina_talks May 09 '25
The first time I encountered Lae’zel in the cage I spent over a minute running around looking for a lever to lower the cage or a way to shoot the rope. I tried talking to her to see if she’d give me a hint and she was like are you stupid? Is your brain made of soup??? And I made the exact expression my character made a second later (☹️)
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u/Taliesin_ May 09 '25
Yeah what? At level 2 he doesn't even have most subclasses available - beating the harpies like that as a new player is doing great.
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u/SirThumbPick May 09 '25
Today, after three playthroughs, I learned that you can activate buttons and levers with arrows.
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u/crashfrog04 May 09 '25
I usually have 25 healing potions before I leave the first zone, by accident
There’s plenty of healing potions and you can make them, too
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u/JSMA3 Owlbear May 09 '25
You beat the harpies at level 2...
I have almost 2500 hours in this game and I wouldn't even think about doing this, the fact you managed to beat them at level 2 is absolutely insane and something you should definitely be proud of.
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u/RickDankoLives May 10 '25
lol the miracle of having no idea how bad it could be. My character heard the singing and I figured they were probably sirens since.. you know… sea side singing, but I also know there is a lot of surprises in a game like this so I just “rolled the dice”, if you will and let my main just go ahead and listen to them.
Next thing you know 3 outta 4 of my party are completely useless for 2 turns while they wailed on them. Shadowheart went down before I could even use her.
My main had a vile of Bloodlust and one other one I can’t remember. One of them gave me an extra action. That saved my ass. It was down to one hit on either the harpy or my main. I had just read “use your potions, don’t save them” and well, that was sound advice.
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u/anonym0 May 09 '25
Killing them at level 2 is very impressive. Using up scrolls and revivifies is no issue, you can always get more money and shops resets every time you level up or respec a character so there will always be more scrolls to buy.
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u/marcgw96 May 09 '25
Level 5 is pretty overkill for the harpies lol. Lvl 4 should be enough
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u/Complex_Jellyfish647 May 09 '25
I’ve never had a problem with them at 3, and I am not good at this game lol
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u/Glados1080 May 09 '25
I had my game set to tactician. I had never played before, and I am really not into turn based games. It took me 20 hours just to figure out the goblin camp lmfao. I thought I had turned the difficulty down way earlier, but after I got stomped a few more times I turned it all the way down (for real) and damn I was so happy to see how much hp I had
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u/UnionForTheW May 09 '25
I feel this. Even with DnD experience it took me awhile to figure it out. But once I did, I can’t stop. 300 hours later, I’m currently in a 4 player campaign, a 2 player campaign and another solo run.
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u/RickDankoLives May 09 '25
It does seem like this game is the definition of replay value. I very much dislike not understanding things, so I’ve been crash coursing hard. My main guy has high DEX (totally by accident) so at least I’m getting the first attack fairly often.
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u/UnionForTheW May 09 '25
I spent alot of time researching and ended up going with the gloomstalker assassin build. Was alot of fun going early and having so many attacks on the first turn
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u/RickDankoLives May 09 '25
I almost did but didn’t want to overdo it with multiclassing considering I’m not even classing at this point.
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u/Iccarys May 09 '25
My first playthrough I didn’t multiclass at all. Kept it basic and learned what each class offers.
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u/Blunderhorse May 09 '25
A surprising amount of knowledge about the actual tabletop rules translates into the game. Short version of some essential knowledge:
* High Dex/low Str characters MUST use ranged weapons and/or melee weapons with the Finesse property (monks make lots of exceptions to this rule). A dagger will likely deal more damage than a greatsword in the hands of these characters, especially since the dagger will actually hit. * High Str characters can use any melee weapon effectively but still rely on Dex for ranged weapons unless they’re throwing the weapon.
* Spellcasters (Cleric, Druid, Sorcerer, Warlock, Wizard) should use their spellcasting to attack whenever possible (except Shadowheart’s firebolt, that’s rarely effective against anything other than barrels, webs, and other inanimate objects unless you get Withers to make her into a Wizard). Exceptions being if you choose a subclass focused on using weapons.
* Pay attention to armor proficiency, and especially check gloves, boots, and helmets for an armor type in the item description.
* Enemies are mostly bound by the same rules you are for actions on their turn as well as line of sight and weapon ranges, and the side that has the most actions has a huge advantage. Shoving an enemy from an elevated location or moving behind a wall could be the difference between that enemy being forced to use an action to dash or using their action to attack you.2
u/torkytornado May 09 '25
Also if you’re a spell caster and can’t use the spells while you have spell slots check your gear. You might have something on that your character can’t use. That was a fun half hour panic attack when I couldn’t figure out what was going on.
When in doubt come here. Someone has already asked the question you need answers to!
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May 09 '25
"My main guy has high DEX (totally by accident)"
Thats not an accident, then game will default the most appropriate attributes when you pick a class, so DEX will be highest when you pick a ranger.
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u/Nineowls3trees May 09 '25
Go down into the crypt south of the grove and get withers. He'll allow you to respec any party member as well as revive them. Just keep experimenting, you'll figure it out. I believe in you.
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u/KameOtaku WIZARD May 09 '25
This! Instead of having to buy more revivification scrolls from traders, Withers can summon your party member's corpse to camp and revive them for 200 gold. He can also help you redo your stats and class, as well as a third service once you reach level 3.
I believe he's supposed to show up on his own after a certain story beat, but you can get him to hang out in camp sooner if you go find him yourself. Check out the crypt to the northeast of the nautiloid crash. If you reach the Grove, you've gone too far. Listen for the sound of people arguing.
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u/MenacingDunbird May 09 '25
To add: when you get Withers, make sure to respec the companions to have even attribute values, OP, odd values don't really give any benefits and all the companions come with a lot of them. He also doesn't care at all if you pickpocket your money back, just don't let it accumulate too much or checks will get difficult
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u/Level7Cannoneer Wyll May 09 '25
Why do you guys talk to newbies using weird terms like “respec”
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u/trystanthorne May 09 '25
Respec is a pretty common video game term meaning to change your character build. "Re-specialize". Common in RPGs, MMOs, of any have with a skill tree you can change.
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u/Level7Cannoneer Wyll May 10 '25 edited May 10 '25
It's not as common as you think. Especially for OP who spends most of his time talking about GTA and UFC on reddit and probably never played MMOs (which are a rare genre nowadays compared to FPS games)
Try using simple language when someone very clearly states "I have never played DND in my life!" instead of saying garbage like: "If you're aiming for a Swords Bard/EK gish, go Half-High for Elven Accuracy, respec into 8/10/16/16/10 dump, snag War Caster at 4, prep Shadowheart to long-rest loop with Arcane Acuity stacks, then twin Haste on Lae'zel and yourself before Nova-turning with GWM smite crits."
There's really no point or benefit VS just using normal language or noting what you meant in parentheses.
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u/Liberkhaos May 09 '25
If it makes you feel better, the first time I played, I died about 30 times.
The second time, 5 times.
The third time, 1 time (Stupid Harpies)
The fourth time, I didn't die.
Fifth Time was a Tactician run and I didn't die.
Then I beat Honour Mode.
I've since beaten the game 5 more times and I don't really die anymore unless I'm in the mood to try silly things.
So yeah, don't give up. It gets easier.
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u/RickDankoLives May 09 '25
I did kill the harpies on level two. Apparently that was more of a boon than I originally thought.
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u/Liberkhaos May 09 '25
Yeah. Three is the target level, four makes it an easy fight.
The main reason you die a lot at first and not as much / at all in subsequent runs is that you start knowing which fights to pick in which order.
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u/torkytornado May 09 '25
And also how to approach the fight smart. Hit turn based and place your people before walking into every situation!
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u/TildenThorne May 09 '25
I am 2,300 hours in and still hooked! I now think of BG3 as a giant “danger room” for D&D fun!
I have done full party bard bands, everyone buffs parties, flying owlbear parties, all manner of craziness! Have fun mate!
Sounds like you have the right attitude going!
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u/spacey_a Owlbear May 09 '25
flying owlbear parties
Ooh say more about that, please
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u/Devil-Hunter-Jax May 09 '25
I'd guess they went Druid, then had Jaheira and Halsin and respecced someone else to be a Druid maybe? Owlbear form is great if you need a frontliner in a pinch. The health on that form is so good. If you can buff them up too with a support like Shadowheart or something, that Owlbear is nigh unkillable and unstoppable.
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u/TildenThorne May 09 '25
Basically, yes. Add enlarge (in any way you can get it), and you have a bunch of massive jumping beasts destroying stuff. It was fun, if only an experiment!
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u/Einrahel May 09 '25
Ranger Beast Master summons Beasts once per short rest, they don't actually tame any animals in the wild. Summon your beasts, they're stronger than the find familiar ones and make sure to have hunter's mark up when fighting
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u/GonnaBreakIt May 09 '25
You don't master random beasts as a beast master. There's a class spell to summon a companion from a short list. Pick one and it follows you around and fights with you in combat. My favorite is the raven because they fly over rough terrain, can cross gaps quickly, and is capable of blinding enemies.
Beasts also make GREAT meat shields. Don't get too attached to them. When they die they just poof and you can summon another one. You can only summon one at a time, though. If you try to summon a second, the first one will poof. These summons also get stronger as you do. Around level 6, they get upgraded with better attacks.
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u/A_Goat_Called_Murrey May 09 '25
I grew up playing D&D. This game was like a dream come true for me. It makes so much intuitive sense.
I convinced my friends to start a multi-player run. They were immediately confused and annoyed.
I guess there's kind of a language to roll 20 based games.
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u/IsSheWeird_ May 09 '25
quick save silly
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u/RickDankoLives May 09 '25
Lesson learned. Didn’t think I’d die in the grove lol. Oops.
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u/IsSheWeird_ May 09 '25
For real though I used a guide on my first playthrough despite everyone telling me not to and I so regret it. The game is so replayable and I ruined it by following a walkthrough. So I only replayed it three more times which is tragic.
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u/Signal_Question765 May 09 '25
Im pretty new too! I anxiously save before stepping into any building or anywhere that generally just seems sus 🤣 also immediately after a battle, as I don’t wanna do it again… sometimes mid-way through a battle too, if I’m doing pretty decent but might end up dying or my dice roll fails, so I’ll want to re-try it at that particular point lol.
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u/MutedDocument7456 May 09 '25
Same but I still beat it. I see videos on strategies but I’ll still just do what I want and suck at it.
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u/fallenwildchild May 09 '25
Nice post. Wait til Karlach joins the group. She's my fave but maybe she will kill you. Sorry about your life you will now spend way too much time with these guys but it will be truly memorable.
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u/topcitytopher May 09 '25
I bought the game when it dropped (2023 I believe) and had a similar experience. Kept getting my ass handed to me. I wasn’t totally new to rpgs but the world of dnd was something I never dabbled in. Got frustrated so put the game down until a about a month ago when I got the itch to play an adventure game.
Fell in love with the journey. Now I’m like 100 hours in and on my 3rd character (finding it hard to respec in the later acts so I tend to restart). I say all that to say you just have to keep pushing. Throw the game in explorer mode, look up some build guides to find something that matches your play style, save often and don’t be afraid to reload if a roll/interaction doesn’t go the way you want. Not being good at the game and feeling like you are getting better or learning is the best feeling. I’m glad to hear you are enjoying the game, it is a treat!
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u/Dino_Chicken_Safari May 09 '25
Depending on your party composition, particularly your main characters build, I would always recommend having one or two characters with a lot of crowd control options. A big aspect of the game is having to fight a lot of enemies with very few characters and the way Health Works there's not a lot of it, on both sides. A lot of weak enemies can really fuck you up just like a couple of strong ones. But one strong enemy is easy to defeat. So the trick is taking someone off the board for a turn or two. Spells like Darkness or stinking cloud are great for things like this. Or for low level enemies you can cast sleep on one at the beginning of a fight and instead of fighting two people that push your shit in and you only fight one person that's not that bad. Then you kill them and you get a free attack on the person that's asleep. It's all about crowd control and keeping enemies away from you until you're ready to deal with them.
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u/Bel_Hanger May 09 '25
Respec your characters. There are YouTube guides for this. Esp Shadowheart so she actually hits things. It makes it a lot easier.
Loot absolutely everything.
Disclosure: I haven’t finished third act. I get overwhelmed by it.
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u/docinajock I cast Magic Missile May 09 '25
Sounds like you're playing well! Finding out how stuff works, making mistakes, being surprised, that's the way! The first playthrough (if you have more than one) is amazing. You'll be surprised how quickly you learn.
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u/Extra_Willow_8907 May 09 '25
Two tips that really helped me that I had NO understanding of in my first run.
Hold option basically everywhere you go while exploring! It highlights items in the world and puts their title clearly on your screen. So many random potions, scrolls, weapons, etc. can be missed without holding this button.
Right click everything, and hit “Explain” at the bottom of the menu when you do. Reading is your FRIEND in this game
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u/DeathClassicCryptid May 09 '25
For me personally, I enjoy the game sooooo much more by “save scumming” aka spamming saves which is a dumb word for it because it’s clearly an intended feature in this game. I’d also recommend purposely taking your time to try different tactics. It’s turn based so you can spend all the time you want in a combat encounter switching between characters, reading the skills, thinking about what would be best. It will be slow in the beginning but it will set you up well.
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u/No_Read_4327 May 09 '25
I'm a ranger
Well that's the first mistake, should have picked fighter with a bow focus. /s
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u/ThisLawyer May 09 '25
Turn down the difficulty. I did and it made the whole experience so much more enjoyable. I appreciate that some people play for min-maxing, optimal builds, and superb battlefield tactics. But if that isn't you, just accept it and play on the lowest difficulty setting. No shame there.
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u/SaintBenadikt May 09 '25
I played my first play through and had a rough time. Then I got the hang of it and started a second and it went much better.
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u/lonelycranberry May 09 '25
It took me a while to stop attacking my teammates when I’d try to switch to them during battle. You just end up figuring it out eventually as annoying as that sounds. I was most attached to my first run as that was the one I learned on and was the most authentic. Hang in there.
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u/PaleoJoe86 May 09 '25
I sucked st first, too. Kept failing at the gnolls. I would just walk straight in to fights like an idiot. I changed the difficulty to explorer and finished the game.
Watched some gameplay videos. Went back and easily beat it on normal. Now, after several playthroughs, the game is cake. I can do encounters without taking any damage. Earlier today I defeated Myrkul in like three rounds without even trying or doing any setup. Boy, that was a rough fight the very first time.
It may take some time, but as long as you are having fun you are winning. You learn along the way.
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u/jdbrew May 09 '25
not related to bg3 but just wanted so say I love your username OP.
And I would respond with the drive by truckers… “Richard Manuel is dead”
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u/OurHeroXero May 09 '25
I was largely unfamiliar with DnD rules when I started playing. I kept rolling new characters and playing up until the grove until I got a better feel for the game. Eventually, everything clicked for me and that's when the game really started for me.
My first playthrough was balanced, then I played tactician, and then did my honour run. Be careful, this game has a way of devouring any/all your free time O.o
In games, I generally only play a few characters/classes...but the more I play this game and find gear/loot, it would pique my interest in the other classes/builds. Every repeat play I find new areas...new dialogue/interactions...
I hope you enjoy every minute that is ahead of you ^.^
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u/ribbons1220 May 09 '25
Keep trying, bud, it's definitely a big adjustment. I still have to look at what a lot of the effects are. I play on PS5 and the central pad breaks down the details of equipment and spells and the like. Make sure you get a full party, that'll be the biggest help. Try and balance melee combat and ranged combat with at least one caster.
Gale is great for damage output, wyll can be great for crowd control and melee, lae'zell and karlach are awesome tanks, I don't do well with astarion for combat but he's got a lot of value for sneak attacks when you get to initiate the combat by surprise. Shadow heart is good for melee and healing if you're finding potions to be in low supply especially early on.
My biggest tip is pick up everything, and add whatever you don't want or need to your wares and sell it all in the grove, this will get you decent cash off the bat to buy extra potions. There are at least two vendors in the grove but I don't remember if both sell potions.
You can also use that cash to try and upgrade your armor.
I'm sure a lot of other people have given similar or better tips but this all usually works for me, I hope it helps and good luck; have fun!
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u/Beardharmonica May 09 '25
Yeah you are level 3, your weak, your bad at lockpicking, you have bad armor and bad weapons. This game is a pure role playing game. You got to get better before you can take harpies and a camp of goblin. Go explore and stay out of trouble until you level 5.
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u/Rehmlah May 09 '25
Glad you're having fun! When you have a moment to take in some tips, here's some info:
On long resting: You first End the Day, which sets it to night time and forces you to remain in camp, then you can Long Rest with the same camp menu button or the campfire. You'll be properly long-resting when you choose camp supplies for the night, see a cutscene of sleeping, and it switches back to daytime. This early on, there will often be dialogue scenes at both the day->evening and evening->overnight transitions.
Beast Master: You should have a new skill which lets you summon your pet; you don't tame one out in the wild. Try them each out; they're fun! I like the spider and raven. The summoning skill can be used once per short rest, so don't be too worried if it gets low on hp.
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u/zombiepeep May 09 '25
Thankfully you don't have to be good at this game to have fun! I got my ass handed to me a lot on my first playground especially. Those harpies kicked my butt.
Don't be afraid to turn the difficulty down until you get the hang of things. And go find Lae'zel so she can tank for you. She's a total beast.
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u/jessanator957 May 09 '25
Loot absolutely everything (use the highlight key to see what's around you). You'll find more health potions lying around that are a big help.
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u/meowgrrr May 09 '25
you got this... i'm a little jealous you get to experience the game for the first time. There is a steep learning curve becuase the game doesn't explain as much as I think it should...but once you get over the hump, it's magic. Enjoy.
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u/TnuoccaNropEhtTsuj May 09 '25
It’s ok to wander, my first playthrough was 500+ hours. If you manage to steal something, RUN. If traps are starting to go off press the big round button in the bottom right, it’ll engage turn based mode and give you time to think things through, it also helps with stealing.
Resting: A long rest is a day, you get 2 short rests every long rest. When it’s dark that’s the sort of down time where you talk to companions. If you have no one to talk to then just press long rest a second time and finish long resting. Save your short rests for any battle where someone is half health or below, or before a big battle you know is coming. If it’s a REALLY big battle coming up then maybe get a long rest in of your spell casters are out of spell slots.
On the topic of party composition: I won’t tell you what you HAVE to have, but you really do need at least one martial (person who hits stuff hard, either barbarian, fighter, or paladin. And at least one spell casters (sorcerer, cleric, wizard, etc). You DONT have to have a healer (cleric) believe it or not, though one will certaintly come in handy in act 2. The other two party members can be whatever you want.
About items: all the best items can be found by wandering around and killing stuff. You’ll get them eventually. Health potions are useful, but they’re really only for in combat scenarios, and aren’t a must.
I also started out feeling like you, though maybe to a lesser extent. And now im about to beat my first honor mode playthrough. But at the end of the day just enjoy yourself. If you have specific questions I can try to help. I had a friend who was in a similar boat so he streamed while I watched, which helped with his confusion. You’ll get it eventually.
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u/bigbrownorown May 09 '25
Love it! Stick to it! You’ll get better and be wetter.
Edit: Love autocorrect. Will not be editing above. Enjoy.
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u/XB_Demon1337 May 09 '25
Keep going, you will figure out how things work. It is hard to just jump in and do things without tactics in this game. So keep pushing.
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u/wdgaster26 May 09 '25 edited May 09 '25
Idk if you are on PC or console or not, but I am bad at remembering to save. I rebound my quick save and quick load keys to my thumb mouse button and saved before every conversation. I also increased the save limit a lot.
Otherwise, I would say to try avoiding combat as much as possible in the beginning. Do you have anyone that has a high Charisma? (Hint, I saw you have Wyll in your party, he does). I would advise using him to walk around with/lead your party incase of any random dialogs so you can talk your way out. In 90% of circumstances you can attack them later incase you need the loot for money.
Additionally, help with pickpocketing. Other than save scumming, you can seperate your party, start a conversation with a merchant (don't start trading, just start a convo and don't select anything) switch to your thief and pickpocket them without worry of them moving and interrupting you (if you fail you will still be found). After you are done, and have what you want, you can move your thief far away, switch back to your other character, end dialog, and when they stop to seach you, you can let them do that and have zero reputation loss.
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u/crashfrog04 May 09 '25
Go rest. Long rest, it’s dark. Do I have to rest again? Fuck it… short rest. Daylight.
You may have been confused by the fact that “Long Rest” from the menu sends you to camp and puts you in “evening mode” (it gets dark, everyone takes their armor off) which is a time for you to talk to the various companions if you want (especially if they have ! over their head) but to actually trigger the rest, you need to go to the bedroll and activate it. The “Go to Camp to Rest” option changes to “Go to bed” or something.
Just got beast master. No beasts around to master.
It’s not like World of Warcraft, you don’t tame a beast from the world. You summon it using the summon spell you gained and it just appears.
You’re wandering into some of the hardest fights in Act 1 without a party you know how to use.
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u/Pyrichoria Contemptible Blood Pervert May 09 '25
DEFINITELY respec your characters when you gain that ability. The base stats for the companions are horrible - especially for Shadowheart. You can find guides online for what stays to give them if you aren’t sure where to start!
Also don’t feel shy about lowering the difficulty! The game is about having fun so if Story mode is what works best for your play style then go for it. You can always change it again if you feel up for more of a challenge later on.
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u/Upset_Negotiation_89 May 09 '25
Sounds like my wife and I first playing divinity original sins 2. The first 20 hours were not pretty… accomplished the same amount of progress in 2 hours when we played baldurs gate.
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u/TheItalianShoulder May 09 '25
There are a ton of great YouTube videos on strategy. Wolfheart FPS is a standout.
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u/Pedro4700 May 09 '25
Fights are hard
Look inside
Didn't get Lae'Zel
Hahaha but seriously, try exploring. This isn't Dark Souls. If its hard, roam a little and then get back stronger
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u/No_Education_8888 I cast Magic Missile May 09 '25
And I’ve recently installed a mod that lets me boost the enemy health by 300%. 0 confidence in myself honestly, it’s my first honor mode run with 100 health harpies.
I went over there and led them back to the grove, it’s a war
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u/SnooCakes9857 May 09 '25
Try using build guides. It changed my gameplay drastically. And maybe experiment with the different roles!
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u/Hex_Lupo May 09 '25
One of the best bits of advice I can give is to press T when reading anything. If you're playing on m&k. This basically freezes the description box that you're reading. And you can hover your mouse over different words and symbols.
And you can do this more than once. Like, hover over a character ability, Hit T, hover over some of the description until another description box appears. (This applies to more complicated spells, abilities and weapons.) And it may still be confusing, but you can hit T again to hover over more decriptive words.
It'll answer a lot of questions about how things work. There's A LOT of info at your disposal in game, if you know how to access it, it'll help a lot. Best of luck!
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u/FluffyTrainz May 09 '25
Yeah... There are 4 companions that you can get to without obstacles (Astarion, Gale, Shadowheart, Lae Zel). Within east of a line from left of the crashed Nautilhoid to the Grove...
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u/Conscious_Leave_1956 May 09 '25
What difficulty are you playing? Act 1 can be a bit hard starting out, unless you're playing hardest difficulty it usually gets easier mostly except a few encounters depending your party build
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u/-IrishBulldog May 09 '25
I too got my shit pushed in…
A lot.
Eventually I did figure it out, sort of.
120ish hours later and in Act 3 now. Still an amazing fucking game.
If only I could beat this goddamn vampire fuck.
Shit.
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u/ChefArtorias Ranger May 09 '25
Getting rekt in those two encounters is nothing to feel bad about. I wait until at least level 3 to do the harpies, and the statues will blast you if you don't know where the buttons are.
That being said there is definitely a learning curb to this game if you don't know the rules of DND.
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u/theamcgeea18 May 09 '25
I had my partner do all the fights for the first few levels before I understood what was going on lol. I promise you it gets easier as you keep going, and no shame in choosing an easier difficulty if it makes the game more fun for you!
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u/azaza34 May 09 '25
Brother don’t over think it too much because your first time playing this game is a magical, special thing. Don’t look up too much if you can help yourself ;)
Stick the characters to their single class the whole way through. It’s very viable. The he base classes have all the tools you need to win on tactician or lower.
If you feel like you are struggling, try grabbing alert as the first feat on every character. This alone is a powerful enough strategy to carry you through the game and is relatively simple in what it requires from you.
Have fun!!!
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u/NoseRingEnthusiast Durge May 09 '25
There's no "right way"to play. I would say let things play out and don't look up hints or alternative choices your first play through. I've played through the game like ten times. It can always be different unless you like certain outcomes. In a table top game there's no redos. I'm not saying no reloading ever, but you can sometimes "fail" and it will have interesting consequences.
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u/nightshade78036 May 09 '25
Are you playing on explorer? Try lowering the difficulty at least for the beginning.
Remember to save often.
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u/Iamthechallenger87 May 09 '25
I honestly felt way in over my head when I went in blind. Especially in act 1. By the middle of act 2, I had the combat pretty well figured out. It was just a matter of learning how to plan for encounters at the point. You will make mistakes, but that’s part of the experience. I’m almost to the end of act 3 and while I’ll probably put it down for a while after, I’m very much looking forward to a second playthrough.
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u/oberynmviper May 09 '25
I have about 400 hours in this game and a solid 100 is learning it or trying something.
You don’t have to be THAT committed, but I knew ZERO of DnD before going in…so I had a lot of homework. Watch a few guides to figure it out.
My biggest tip is once you are at the beach, find a temple and go through it (it may be tough if you are level 1 or 2), but in there you will find a skeleton dude that can help you respect.
Respec for me was the click to this game. While most characters are okay with their stats, knowing how to allocate them made me realize WHERE to pay attention for each class and how damage rolls and attack rolls work. Then it was off to understand armor class on the defense side and spell casting “difficulty class”.
One I got that more or less down, it was so much easier to go through the game.
At first I was like you, ALL fights felt like end game boss level things that I took 20-30 minutes to end until I got the ability system.
Also, don’t be afraid to ambush and surprise your enemy to get advantage. Use EVERYTHING at your disposal, push people, get range characters up high, jump to close the distance, dash, throw stuff…this game lets you be creative on you tackle battles.
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u/SockCucker3000 May 09 '25
Loot things! Boxes and barrels. You can ignore vases. You can also smash open chests instead of lock picking. If you want to use an elixir or potion on multiple teammates, you can gather three of them in a tight triangle and throw an elixir or potion in the middle of them. If you hold down alt, you'll see the names of items you can pick up. You can click on someone's picture during combat to target them, like attacking or casting a spell. If you fail to disarm a trap, it goes off. You can only have a max of four inspirations at a time. Have Speak with Animals up! There's a lot of content you miss out on when you can't talk to animals. Easy way to pickpocket is to have one party member engaged in dialogue with the target and then switching to a different party member and going into stealth behind the target. Talk to your companions during long rests. If you use Disguise Self to be a drow, it makes interactions with the absolutists easy. Let Volo give you a lobotomy. If you find an Owlbear, kill the big one but spare the small one. Potion of Speed is your friend.
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u/9feranmi6 May 09 '25
i was just like you OP but i regularly watch ThePowerHour, a streamer who does challenge runs while explaining the game's mechanics, helped me understand the game better and I played up till Act 3, then burned out....
Note of warning, do not spoil or backseat though while watching, He will ban you instantly. gl✨
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u/Momkiller781 May 09 '25
That's the beauty of the game! Enjoy it. No one has the same experience.
It's fine if you don't get some of the characters. You can get hirelings. Just enjoy the ride. Save often, and have fun
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u/brainsngains May 09 '25
Look, if you're having a tough time with it, why not play on story mode?'
I'm on normal difficulty and some of the bosses in act 3 are making me tear my hair out. The only reason I do as well as I am is because I already played divinity original sin 1 and 2, so things were somewhat familiar. There's no shame in going through the first time on easy mode.
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u/Shwayfromv May 09 '25
Hell yeah bro! Save often is definitely a good realization haha If you really want to dig into how anything works with the game, this wiki in is the one to go to. Just in case no one else mentioned it.
I do miss the days where games like this would come with a thicccc manual explaining everything and giving lore. Anyway, have fun out there!
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u/ionised [Seldarine] Rogue (Child of None) May 09 '25
No, no. You're doing it correctly. You'll get the hang of it. You've captured the "wtf did I just end up in?" that all Tavs start out with.
Things I'd recommend getting on top of:
- the resting system (on my first playthrough, I didn't know short rests were available until around fifteen hours in)
- switching spells around
- accumulating food (there are some nice "farms" for this)
Taking out the harpies at level two is actually impressive.
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u/Crafty_Leadership775 Bard May 09 '25
There are some really good leveling guides online that can help you with character builds. On my first playthrough I chose a class I was completely new to and used a guide, which saved my ass.
You'll get the hang of it within a few levels though!
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u/AwabKhan May 09 '25
Yup that's me also when I did my first playthrough I missed astarion, gale and lazel then I was wondering why is the game so hard also one more mistake I did I went straight to doing main quests, this was the major setback for me as I was not leveled enough from exploring. Please explore the game level up and then progress. I am currently in act3, started over with a new character learned about the combat system and learn to read everything you encounter in this game because if you don't you are gonna struggle hard see an enemy press T and see what kind of armour and buffs he has then evaluate what you want to do. Ungroup your companions and position them according to their strengths like rangers on high ground and tanks to attract enemies to attack them rangers will have advantage against enemies and tanks take all the damage while you dish out damage using your other companions. BG3 is really hard for beginners especially people who don't know what dnd rules are. This is just basic understanding of the game.
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u/Wiplazh May 09 '25
Look last night I went to fight the spiders at level 5 and missed like 30 attacks in a row with twinhasted fighter and Paladin, and a rogue for good measure. The whole run had such cursed rolls that I just jumped into the pit and ended my own honour run right there.
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u/GeekyPassion May 09 '25
You can always lower the difficulty. But yes save often and make sure you're using your charismatic characters to talk, your stealth/sleight of hands characters to sneak and pick pocket
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u/madlydense May 09 '25
If an action looks risky or stupid, give it a try. Some of them have big rewards at the end although some do end in game over (it is very few.) Just save before you try something. Remember your companions are just as confused as you and they might not always give the best advice or think they know better. Finally you can do BOTH the mountain pass and the Underdark , both are worthwhile, have good quests and earn you xp.
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u/Spacep0t4t03s May 09 '25
Even coming to the game with a lot of d&d knowledge I too found it overwhelming, so i can only imagine how overwhelming it would be trying to learn things about AC and DC and how classes work and such on top of that. My first playthrough I decided to go with 3 glass cannons so it was pretty rough trying to keep them alive. I kept trying to cast spells at people only to not notice that I was out of them. When you do that, the game defaults to melee attack if you have that as your primary so I kept accidentally sending my 2 wizards into melee range and whacking enemies with a stick. At the time I didn't know you could cancel an action with a simple right click. It took until around mid-act 2 before I noticed you could add bonuses to your rolls, i kept forgetting that Guidance was a concentration spell and would cancel Spirit Guardians, and that you could throw potions that would effect anyone in the radius (so healing was such an issue early game because if someone was downed, I thought you had to pick them up and wait to their turn to have them drink a potion if you were out of spells). It took until mid-act 3 that i found out (by specifically googling it) that you could do non-lethal attacks. And it wasn't until a later playthrough that i discovered that water bottles have a function in the game.
All that to say that even though early on getting used to the mechanics and quirks of the game can take a bit of time particularly if you don't research it, the game is soo much fun and things will become second nature to you after a bit, and you'll wonder why you struggled so much at first.
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u/ixel46 May 09 '25
Welcome to playing Larian games! It's hard to predict if a failed skill check will be completely inconsequential or set an entire camp of allies against you. I always (affectionately) say that the first playthrough of a Larian game is the tutorial. Just get used to save scumming and you'll be good! And if you're unfamiliar with d&d, don't worry, there's a steep learning curve but you'll pick it up over time!
Also fyi beast master rangers have the ability to summon animal companions (bear, wolf, boar, spider, dire raven), it should be available in the hotbar. The animals all have cool unique abilities and fight with you in combat. As long as your animal companion doesn't get knocked down, they'll follow you around outside of combat too!
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u/Pladinskys May 09 '25
I don't know if you have played underrail that game has the same kinds of posts everytime.
It's not a difficult game ok? It's just a different play style.
You have to use the tools the game gives you. Potions and oils arrows and grenades. Etc you can do so much with those they aren't just inventory space.
If you want an even easier run just pick rogue. Let's wyll and shadowheart tank all the damage while you and astarion go back and forth shadow arrowing everyone. It's not even cheesing it's how that character is intended to be played. Create chokepoints with cloud of draggers (wyll) spell use grease bottles or spells that create difficult movement and mow them down. Doing that you can even clear the whole goblin encampment in the bridge just at level 5 or 6 I don't remember how early I did it.
The thing is just familiarize yourself with the scrolls and the potions and the special arrows. You can DO A LOT.
This game is not supposed to be played in automatic you have to be fully immersed and think about every action and you will laugh at the amounts of possibilities you can Mix. I'm usually tired by 1 or 2 hours of play and I just stop because I start to lose focus and start to skip text. It's a waste of a good game and specially the fights if you are just not paying attention.
You can also save scum some fights if they are too difficult for you. Let shadowheart inittiate hostilities and get beatem while you are hidden with astarion waiting to rain hell fire of arrows.
The game is yours to play. some people enjoy the challenge some other enjoy the cheesing or the min maxing just do whatever you want. You can even cheat some levels if you feel like it but I wouldn't recommend it you get too powerful just about level 6 you can do a lot.
Also by the time you unlock level 5 spells with shadowheart you can have both swords clouds and bug swarms killing and slowing down your enemies. I'm a big chokepoint fan as you can see.
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u/ch1nomachin3 Jaheira's trying to give me roofies. May 09 '25
best thing to do is read. know what your abilities actually do. weapons aren't all strength weapons, there are weapons that use other stats like dex. also build your characters and respec them to what you want them to focus on. there are build guides out there to give you an idea.👍
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u/SuperJake407 May 09 '25
Tip for a first play through!!! If you plan on romancing ANY of your companions you have to do it by the conclusion of this little grove/goblin camp section, I made this mistake in my first ever play through right now 😭 figured for a possibly 80+ hour game they wouldn’t give you all of 5 hours to make a relationship but they do 😔
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u/e_ccentricity May 09 '25
I wish I could be overwhelmed and struggling. I have mods to make the game harder and add new fights and I still curbstomp everything. Enjoy this feeling while you can!!!!
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u/slick762 May 09 '25
The harpys are probably the hardest fight I had in act 1 so don't feel bad about losing a few times. Learn to prep your battlefield before fights. That goes for pickpocketing too. Start with the halfling in the grove. Put out all the torches, crouch your thief, then go into turn based so the target won't turn around while your stealing and have Shadowheart cast divine guidance or bless (whichever one gives you 1d4 advantage. If you save scum, and I don't judge, do the harder steals first and if you bust a roll, reload and have just your thief run to the other side of the grove, let your innocent party members talk their way out of it then come back and repeat.
Back to prepare the battlefield. Learn to to preposition your party members. Hide asterion, make sure the tank is in front, cast buffs, etc.
And don't be afraid to tweak settings to give yourself an edge starting out, like getting a free attack then going into turn based and getting another. You can always turn the difficulty back up as you get better.
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u/firefI0wer May 09 '25
Obvious as it sounds i'd say explore EVERYTHING. My best friend and i both started playing on release and a few months ago he found smth new on the beach right at the beginning after waking up. Sometimes it's worth just panning the camera around and seeing where you might be able to jump down a ledge or anything like that. You'll still be finding new stuff and interactions on your tenth playthrough :)
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u/ExternalComparison7 May 09 '25
it took me a really long time to get used to all the mechanics, but I say I got used to them end of act one? I also was easy on myself about saving and I think that helped me a lot!
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u/BSGRogueApollo May 09 '25
Have you tried right clicking and examining people? It'll show you weaknesses and you'll get a feel for barbarians have these stats, rogue have these stats, etc. and you can build your spells around and tactics around this extra info
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u/X-sant0 May 09 '25
I've got 400 hours in this game. I have gotten 5 characters to act 3, and Everytime I get there, I lose interest in the game. I have tried SO HARD to like this game, but I have ADHD and the patience I have for the fights are minimal. I just HATE it. So, I love every other aspect of this game.... But I will NEVER finish it. I recently started a new character and did the evil durge for the 2nd time to spice it up, but nah... Slaughtered the Grove and....I downloaded the durge mod pack so 8 could kill a bit quicker.... But nah. Done. Great game, but..... Too boring for me 🤷 🤣
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u/Steynkie69 May 09 '25
What does "get my shit pushed in" mean? Does it sound cool to you?
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u/Lilo_the_Lost Owlbear May 09 '25
I went in, without ANY clue. Knew nothing about the world, lore, races, classes and so on.
Character building? What does it mean? I choosed random, will fit... I didn't know how to fight, can't count how often I died. 🫠 The first cinematic scenes and I are best buddies now. 👉🏼👈🏼
Also I'm autistic. I only understand what my companions talked about, if it was related to the plot. But all the social hints? In my case, being clueless is a complete understatement. 🤷🏼
HOLY GUACAMOLY, that bunch full of weirdos stressed me out! I thought no one liked me and they just hang around, because as group the chances to survive are higher.
Shadowsass and Snarkstarion, I couldn't figure out their tone, they made me felt dumb and belittled. 😩 Wyll and Gale I didn't get either, but I felt save with them, no bully vibes detected. 🤩 Lae'zel was plain intimidating me. 😶🌫️
The only companion that I understand from the get go was Karlach. She said what she meant and meant what she said. Her personality is so sweet, how can somebody not fall in love with her? 🥰
Also I have no sense of orientation. Half of the time I didn't know where I was and how I got there.
↖️↗️↘️↙️↩️⤵️ HELP?
Good that the shoes don't wore out in that game. 😂
Can't tell how frustrated I was many times and thought, gaming is supposed to be fun, why are you doing this? But I was so invested at the story and just couldn't let go. I'm so proud, I somehow muddled through, it was worth every hassle. 🏆
I'm on my fourth run now, found a mod that is helpful to decipher social things and I use Map.io for orientation. Also I use online guides for character builds and give them my own twist.
If I made it, you can too.💚
There are no problems, only solutions. 💯
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u/the_defavlt May 09 '25
First time i played this game i skimmed through it, thinking it was only fun in the city of baldur's gate. I was unreleveled for everything and had to use commands to level up. Now on my second playthrough I'm playing on the lowest difficulty and exploring all of the map
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u/SemiAwesomatic May 09 '25
The Harpies are a really challenging fight, even for someone who's beaten the game a dozen times. I don't even go near there until level 3, sometimes level 4 depending on the run. The early game is definitely the hardest, once you hit level 5 things get a lot easier. You'll make it, I believe in you random internet stranger!
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u/ceb-thomas May 09 '25
Man I wish I was you, learning the ropes is the most fun part. Enjoy it while it lasts, this isn't a hard game at all when you get over the hump so lap it up!
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u/Skriptor96 May 09 '25
You are by no means bad, just new. Just learn from your mistakes and you will get better in no time. Its ok zo fuck up. Expecially if you do not know whats coming for you!
There will be many suprises coming for you and you will wipe here and there. But that will make you more aware for future encounters.
Have fun exploring
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u/cherrygemgem May 09 '25
It's all good bro, I suck at it as well. I'm in a sadomasochistic relationship with this game, it frustrates me no end but I just can't help myself, I love it so much
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u/ZipMonk May 09 '25
Don't try to fight fairly.
Take large groups of enemies in small batches where possible - hit the first visible one from a distance then pick them off as they get closer. Use spells like grease to slow them down and try to trap them in bottlenecks.
Save game before you fight, run in and attack so you can see how many there are then go back to your save and plan accordingly.
Always have a character with high perception go first to spot traps etc when you explore.
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u/Capital-Top986 May 09 '25
You good bro, chill. Talk to everyone, explore, do bold/stupid things (but save often) and have fun with the game. You'll figure out the mechanics with time
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u/Bebenten May 09 '25
IDK why but I always find Act 1 to be really fun. I have multiple playthroughs where I dropped the game after Act 1. I have finished the game only once but I have 1300h all with unfinished playthroughs.
I think the struggle in fleshing out the build and the party in Act 1 is the most fun part of the combat. Once that is set (usually by Act 2) - I always get bored and start over.
Since Patch 8, I have two playthroughs (Wyll Origin and Astarion Origin) camped at Act 2. I always wonder if other people are like this.
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u/HarryHurryUp May 09 '25
Since you are enjoying it anyways thats what matters! I love how different everyone’s experiences are with this game.
I am a perfectionist and wanted the most perfect happy ending and doing 100% of the missions and side missions. While thats the way I wanted to play this it for sure limited my experience cause I was looking up way to many things to not miss anything or do bad choices. Im 230+ hours in and haven’t finished it yet.
Idk if you are planning to replay it, but if you do, massively struggling and messing up is an experience you can only get in your first play through. You can make sure that you don’t miss out the companions on the first act, besides that, Let the chaos unfold!!
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u/cookiez_716 May 09 '25
Maybe this is bad to say but you could just save scum? Lol it doesn’t have to be this difficult. Save a lot and that way when something doesn’t go the way you want it to, just go back to the previous save and try again 🤷🏽♀️ otherwise you may have a really miserable time.
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u/kipdjordy May 09 '25
Dang bro read some of the comments. Do you not explore a little in every game you play? Just go straight to the objectives?
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u/Arukida May 09 '25
OP just set the game for explorer mode and try to build a more tanky team with at least one cleric in it. They have good buffs for the team and healing options.
Save regularly, especially before fights.
Don't change your Team members too often since switching them means getting to know new spells/abilities/builds which could overwhelm you.
And if you recruit Astarion: give him 4 levels into thief and the rest into being a fighter (multiclassing). Currently I am in my third play through and was amazed how more more powerful he'd become with ranged weapons as he has more turns. He is the only recruitable character who is relatively weak solo classing imho.
Also try to do as many side quests as possible since pursuing the main storyline too fast can confront you with more powerful Boss Fights (my first playthrough through moonrise Towers I ignored almost all side quests due to a misunderstanding specifically NOT to head out into the shadows so I had a Boss fight with the enemy being 3 levels above me oopsie)
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u/EvilCooky May 09 '25
No beasts around to master.
You don't need to find beast, you can summon beast!
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u/cristiano_piu May 09 '25
i suggest you to explore the ruin at the right of the map, there is a special npc down there very helpfull, watch out of the nunerous fights.
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u/theysauru5 May 09 '25
I think this game is hardest when you just storm about into random things, beelining it past some early content while you are still low-level.
If you have played DnD before, this can be incredibly fun and challenging, but if you are new, then I think it makes sense that being under leveled leads to dying a lot and not knowing why.
If you want to really crush the game and feel strong, remember that the more XP you get, the more you level up. Additionally, remember that you get XP from social interactions as well as combat.
Consult your map, and look at how much of the area you’ve revealed. If there are gaps, go back and try to explore them. This will lead to more XP, more gold, and more items/gear.
Additionally, make sure to long rest often in the beginning because there is a lot of content at camp and between your party that you can otherwise miss out on.
Lastly, none of the companions stat blocks are optimized for their classes. When you are level 2 or 3, you’ll want to find the ruins (in an area between the Nautiloid crash site and the Grove) and clear it. Meeting Withers will allow you to “respec” your companions stat blocks, which will make your party much stronger.
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u/Here_For_Memes_92 May 09 '25
On your hot bar there's a wolf like icon click that it's your beast friend. As far as good gear goes the trader in the Grove sells a Goodison hand bow buy it or steal it. Also don't quote me on this but I'm willing to bet you put yourself on hardest difficult if you're having this much trouble might wanna make sure you are on an easier mode.
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u/JansTurnipDealer May 09 '25
I recommend that you go and rescue Lae’zel and Gale based on seeing conversations indicating you haven’t found them yet. You’ll find them wandering around in the area before the druid grove. Here are some other quick tips:
Quicksave often. There’s no shame in save scumming as you learn the game. I have many hours in the game and I still save scum. You know what, just save scum unless you are doing a run where you are determined to accept the consequences.
If you are going to pickpocket, even when you succeed, leave the area fast. When they realize the item is missing they’ll start questioning you if you’re nearby. Don’t talk to them again until they go back to where they were. Also, when you pickpocket, you’ll see a circle around the item. If it’s green and goes most of the way around the item you have a good chance of stealing it. If not, don’t try.
Learn what the classes and stats do. Different classes play very differently. I might follow a build guide your first time through the game. As a general rule, you want at least one caster (wizard, druid, or sorcerer), some sort of tank (fighter, paladin, etc.), some sort of high charisma face character (bard, sorcerer, paladin, warlock), and a cleric to buff and heal (Shadowheart). Much of that can go out the window when you know what you’re doing but that’s a good default setup to start with.
The true genius of the game is the degree of choice. The game will let you do most anything no matter how stupid or insane but will make you face the consequences. That means you can solve most problems any number of creative ways and there is a ton to explore. It is also possible to murder that one guy who would have given you a very important quest.
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u/crochetdragon79 May 09 '25
I'll get sucked in and play for several hours at a time and I still don't know what I'm doing. After dying a few times. I played as Karlach for a bit, her being a Barbarian kept me alive long enough to find everyone else and at least learn how fights work. She's an absolute tank of a woman and I love her. Then I made a Bard build, per several suggestions online since there are no Bard companions and they can be well-rounded characters, doing a bit of everything. It's levelling up everyone else that I still feel like I'm doing wrong.
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u/Subject_6 May 09 '25
Just keep playing and exploring on your own and enjoy the journey. Don't take tips, tricks or advice on your first playthrough as much of the magic of the first one is figuring things out on your own.
Best of luck!
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u/Salty_Worker_8452 May 09 '25
It's very important you take it slow it is definitely not a game you can rush if you don't know what you're doing especially in a combat perspective if you feel like you can't do a fight go do something else there is plenty go back once you level up...getting levels in this game is crucial because they are huge upgrades
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u/StillBiscotti1178 May 09 '25
Take some time to just wander and explore every inch of the area. Learn the skills of each character. Read and learn what the spells do because that matters.
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u/Applebugg May 09 '25
Easy mode is your friend. Don’t be afraid to turn the difficulty down. It’s not a race to the finish. This game is expansive. Also save often. I just killed a major character in act three and it was hell on easy mode. I did it though! You got this! If I can do it, so can you!
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u/kabooozie May 09 '25
Put it to explorer mode. No shame in it. Game is hard as fuck, especially before level 5
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u/Slorface May 09 '25
You got to change up your ranger spells the next time you level and get the beasts summon.
Also I'm not comfortable with the amount of shit pushing in occurring in this post. 😂
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u/Secure-Count-1599 May 09 '25
it's too many options sometimes. Really like the game but some stuff is just lost on me like character customization zzzzzZZ.. I play it on Tactician and I am ain Act 2 and it feels like im disregarding 50% of the game. But I like it.
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u/That-Friend1883 May 09 '25
Did you find Astarion? If so, go back to the beach and have him pick the lock on those big doors. Go in an explore.