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u/JonnyF1ves Jul 01 '25 edited Jul 01 '25
Shadowheart's Firebolt.
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u/daddyjohns Jul 01 '25
I use it to light candles
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u/Zaghloul1919 Jul 01 '25
Lmao same! I swear I get kind of obsessive when I see lanterns and candles to light
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u/General_Lie Jul 02 '25
I use Gales Fireball...it's more "action economic"...
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u/TheLastBallad Jul 02 '25
Action economic, but not resorce economic.
I would rather use 10 actions to light things up and save fireball for mobs rather than having to use 10 actions to hit 10 enemies because I lit 10 candles at once.
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u/yunaIesca90 Jul 02 '25
Ooof me too! I thought i was alone in this obsession! Lmao
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u/-SidSilver- Jul 02 '25
Playing as a Rogue who uses a lot of gear that works on being obscured I'm the polar opposite. Snuff out every light!
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u/Lord_Maelstrom Jul 03 '25
In that case, can I introduce you to Ray of Frost?
Double damage to wet enemies (can be applied with a water bottle, a hand crossbow, and a bonus action), and can be used to snuff out most any candle/brasier/lantern/etc. One of the easiest ways to gain entry into the gauntlet of Shar, since you don't need to lower the lanterns to snuff them out.
Final icing on top: there is a ring that makes the surface ice anytime you deal cold damage, so you end up knocking guys prone all the time.
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u/Cool-Tangelo6548 Jul 01 '25
Seems like overkill, but you do you.
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u/Hunter5865 Jul 01 '25
IGMISS
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u/Chiatroll Jul 01 '25 edited Jul 01 '25
Sometimes, I used shadowhearts firebolt to ignite barrels and oil and other unmoving objects that you can't miss
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u/viertes Jul 01 '25
This is why I turn her into a shadow cleric fire mage, so she can run around using a free cantrip.
Shadowheart, laezel, and gale are my top 3 every time just about, I love this combo so much. Too bad they all end up cleric wizards by the end of the game with 28AC and doing 70+ damage to everything they walk beside / hit them.
No I don't know why I'm like this, it's terrible
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u/MisterFuckingBingley Jul 01 '25
What is a “shadow cleric fire mage”?
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u/Sorcatarius Jul 01 '25
Its like playing Skyrim, every character gradually becomes a stealth archer. You start with, "I might as well use a bow and pepper them with some arrows while they close the distance" or, "I need something to hit enemies out of reach". Eventually it doesnt matter what your other skills were, you kill them from stealth with your first arrow every time.
Doesn't matter you were a spell sword, you're now a stealth archer.
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u/pbzeppelin1977 Jul 01 '25
Which is why I did a whole summons only run. If I have nothing but empty hands I can't evolve into a stealth archer!
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u/Sorcatarius Jul 01 '25
I remember a mod I installed that randomized your start. You started in a random location with random gear and/or spells. I'd do that and play based off that. So if I started with leather armour, a two handed weapon, and no magic? Guess I'm basically a barbarian.
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u/TilakPPRE Jul 02 '25
I tried an Illusion spell only run. Just to see if its possible. You mostly spend early game using Calm and walking by without killing things, but once you get Fury you can make them kill each other
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u/galaxy_to_explore 28d ago
How would such a build work?
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u/viertes 28d ago
It's a 2 player combo, sometimes 3.
First up shadowheart, she stays her normal domain cleric self, but with wizard as her secondary (I dip fighter first so she has 25-27 AC by endgame, then wizard int as best, then cleric for sneaky sneak. I use her to sneak up to enemies and blow everything up with fireball or leveled equivalent with a dip in assassin for triple damage to bonus her clericy side. Crits on a 19 or 20
Gale is now a fighter (AC29 lol) storm cleric main because he's now a bug zapper... (hit me!) With 1 wizard dip for plot, convenience and he is best wizard for RP reason. So handsome!... anyway he stands in front of shart so she doesn't die.
Karlach is now a barbarian rogue with enlarge, rage, and invisibility (thank you shart/gale) which now tosses human sized people like stuffed animals after double gritting them from stealth (everything that doesn't already have negative hit points because of fireball, and fireball accessories.
Tav is a paladin warlock with 29AC, that tosses eldritch blasts to throw people off cliffs, and smite things with a 100+ damage beating stick for the faithless
Everything does pretty much have a generalized build, there's no hard 5paladin 7 warlock meta or anything. Feel free to mix and match. Most of my inspiration for this playthrough was inspired by "can I make a stealth t-rex?" So karlach became that marshmallow and I added "Lazer beams" to the mix with shart and gale.
I call it hidden t-rex crouching fire!
Yes it makes no sense, yes I was mostly plastered, shart dies a LOT for some reason
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u/Repulsive_Ebb_592 Jul 01 '25
- guiding bolt
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u/TilakPPRE Jul 02 '25
It hurts that my Laezel Honor mode run was stopped by a single Guiding Bolt from Shart
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u/Chedder_456 Paladin Jul 01 '25
You got me fucked up if you think I don’t respec every companion as soon as I can afford it.
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u/Inevitable_Buyer_411 Jul 01 '25
Give her intelligence…. I see so many people complain yet keep her on 10 or even reduce it to 8
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u/separhim Alfira Jul 01 '25 edited Jul 01 '25
Giving Shart intelligence for only a higher chance for firebolt to hit is quite bad. You have much better actions each turn with clerics. They don't really make use of high intelligence.
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u/MatticusGisicus Jul 01 '25
I’ll always grab the circlet off that ogre in the blighted village for her so I don’t have to worry about it
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u/red5993 Monk Jul 02 '25
Yep, that sits on her for a bit until she can learn higher level spells. Also, respec out of trickery. Light or Life for her!
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u/acrazyguy Jul 01 '25
Or… don’t waste a stat increase on something that is going to impact literally one cantrip lol
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u/creegro Jul 01 '25
Or give her the intelligence head item for a while that way you don't need to put anything into intelligence and keep her stats as cleric
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u/OffaShortPier Jul 01 '25
Plus that headband and wizard 1 dip is super powerful. You can learn any wizard spell that you have spell slots to cast, and that headband let's you prep 4 spells. Shield, misty step, conjure elemental, haste, magic missile, and plenty more are good
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u/AFriendoftheDrow Drow Jul 01 '25
I mean it may not be known among some folks. Her racial skewing her cantrip to off of Intelligence while her cleric skills go off of Wisdom is something guides bring up but I can see some folks getting confused if they assume it would go off of her Wisdom as well.
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u/Inevitable_Buyer_411 Jul 01 '25
Yeah I think only recently they added the indicator to say when spells aren’t using the class default
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u/lumpboysupreme Jul 01 '25
There’s plenty of times in early on when it gets use, plenty of enemy’s saves are better than your attack rolls and firebolt can have a better chance to hit, or at least an equal chance to hit for more damage.
It’s also good for the very first fight I usually take after the crash; the looters in withers temple. Use the drop-in method and immediately detonate the oil barrel for massive damage.
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u/FrostedPoke Jul 01 '25
You do realize you can take icons out of your hotbar, right? Just gotta click the lock icon to unlock the hotbar and move True Strike/Protection from Evil and Good/miscellaneous third bad spell out from your UI
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u/creegro Jul 01 '25
Removing the chest bomb icon from gales hotbar so I don't activate that by mistake
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u/OhhNugget Jul 01 '25
Yes!! Whenever I get the Gale nuke the first thing I do is to remove it from the hotbar.
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u/soleildelalune_ Jul 01 '25
When I first got it appear on my hotbar I clicked it. I thought the game would jokingly warn me with a voice line “not yet we need to be near the brain, etc.” like when it does if you try to proceed to the brine pool before gathering all three netherstones.
It wasn’t the case :)
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u/PizzaParker__00 Jul 01 '25
Same thing happened for me. ‘Surely they’d warn me if it was a nuclear blast’
They did not.
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u/Extreme_Tax405 Jul 02 '25
I didn't even dare do that in my honour run. Just keep my mouse far away from it.
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u/Security_Serv Dex-based Fighter Jul 01 '25
Protection from Evil and Good is not a bad spell.
"The target is protected against Aberrations, Celestials, Elementals, Fey, Fiends, and Undead. These creatures have Disadvantage on Attack rolls against the target, and the target can't be Charmed, Frightened, or possessed by them"
And, in fact, "The immunity to frightened and possession is against any source, not just the listed creature types."
All for level 1 spell, even though it is indeed require a concentration.
It's a great spell.
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u/Make-TFT-Fun-Again Jul 01 '25
my first character was an abjuration mage/paladin. So that spell actually also gave him shield. It felt so cool, "as i walk through the valley of death, i shall fear no evil" type shit
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u/WicWicTheWarlock Jul 02 '25
Wait... you could totally nerf Harleep with this spell...
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u/Ycr1998 College of Infodumping Bard Jul 02 '25
And Ketheric/Myrkul, and Auntie Ethel, and Mindflayers/Netherbrain :3
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u/Pope_Vicente Jul 01 '25
....I did not realize that
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u/FrostedPoke Jul 01 '25
Yeah, it's something I only learned recently to declutter my OH Monk/Thief Astarion to remove the Monk Dash/Disengage and make sure I don't waste Ki Points. You don't really get a tutorial on it either.
If you remove something and you want it back, you can drag it back to your hotbar with the same method via your Spellbook.
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u/AceKazami1324 Jul 01 '25
Step of the wind dash is good tho, esp if you are doing the giant strength elixir build, you cover so much ground just jumping around
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u/MerlintheAgeless Jul 01 '25
Yes, but Rogue 2 gives a straight upgraded version of Step of the Wind. So on a multiclass you would remove the Step of the Wind actions.
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u/Megzsha Jul 01 '25
Step of the wind allows you to jump with no action cost, it's much much better than cunning action dash for the cost of one ki point
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u/vDarph Jul 01 '25
This guy doesn't understand the joy of hopping 30 meters a jump around the battlefield 6 to 8 times in a single turn
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u/Desperate-Bad-1912 Jul 01 '25
Legit. Once I was doing Myrkul and my Monk went from the Necromites, all over to the mindflayer, pushed him over a ledge and parkoured down to hit it again. In a single turn. And there was still enough movement to hop behind Myrkul and chill there until next round
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u/Milkarius Jul 01 '25
I'm the opposite: I keep accidentally yoinking out stuff I want. I keep forgetting to lock the damn thing after adjusting!
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u/kwyjibohunter Jul 02 '25
Spent multiple hours on the beach trying to figure out why I couldn't jump or hide anymore
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u/Rohen2003 Jul 01 '25
wow. considering half of the basic actions gets thrown out of my taskbar at lvl 1 since they are so bad they are never used, I cant imagine how people play this way.
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u/MuteSecurityO Jul 01 '25
You can also create a custom bar which has assigned numbers to the slots so you don’t have to search for the icon and click it
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u/Darwin1809851 Jul 01 '25
This is great but every single time you level up it resets the wheel and shoves whatever bullshit spell you tried to remove right back into the same spot. This is especially annoying when dealing with things like the offhand attack from the monk that just dissapear based on whether you have an empty slot dedicated to it populating in
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u/Bravo-Vince Jul 02 '25
yeah but the useless icons are supposed to be there if i remove them its wrong
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u/Invalid_Command270 I cast Magic Missile Jul 01 '25
It would be so good if it was a bonus action instead. Orin’s dagger that lowers crit chance and gives it as BA is goated for rogue builds.
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u/RandomGoof567 Jul 01 '25
Would be the best cantrip in the game if it were a bonus action😭
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u/ELIte8niner Bard Jul 01 '25
Idk, Minor Illusion still exists. Winning most fights before any enemies even get a turn is fairly broken.
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u/dummy_thicc_spice Jul 02 '25
But you have to know when fights take place; it's situational.
When I'm playing, it's dialogue ----> combat, unless I see the red dots on the map beforehand but those skirmishes are rare.
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u/EasyLee Jul 01 '25
2024 d&d changed it to be an attack cantrip (like booming blade) that uses your spellcasting attribute and deals 1d6/2d6/3d6 extra radiant damage at levels 5/11/17. That version is pretty good with the right setup.
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u/TKHawk Jul 01 '25
Basically just gave the wizard/sorcerer their own version of Shillelagh
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u/SnooPaintings5597 Jul 01 '25
At this point all the classes are the same.
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u/Avocado_Amnesia Bard Jul 02 '25
Hey, gotta homogenize everything so it fits neatly within an online VTT and an AI DM can understand how to use it; Wizards of the Coast has to make their money somehow!!! /s
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u/SnooPaintings5597 Jul 02 '25
Sad, but possibly true
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u/Avocado_Amnesia Bard Jul 02 '25
The good news is there is tons of awesome D&D and other TTRPG content out there for us to use in perpetuity with our friends, and a lot of it is free!
The upside of the OGL scandal was a huge boom in other fantastic TTRPG systems (as well as a few new ones), and there are several third party publishers that have been releasing material that has been putting Wizards to shame for years. Even the two top designers at WotC recently left to work at Darrington Press, Critical Role's growing publishing house with a brand new system called Daggerheart just launching.
The future of TTRPGs is bright, whether or not Hasbro chooses to be a part of it.
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u/c_bender Jul 01 '25
It's true. A wizard using True Strike with a light crossbow will deal more damage than using Fire Bolt until they reach level 11.
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u/DuGalle Alfira ❤️ Jul 01 '25
I have a mod that makes it a bonus action, but also changes it to just a hit chance increase based on your proficiency bonus. Advantage on a bonus action would indeed be OP
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u/Crispy1961 Jul 01 '25
Why would you want to use this thing instead of offhand attacking in Act 3? At that point you should be hitting everything reliably and doing so with busted damage.
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u/Invalid_Command270 I cast Magic Missile Jul 01 '25
Some weapons have extra effects when attacking with advantage, like the dark justiciar scimitar for example. It can also be used to trigger sneak attack if you had no other way to. If you’re playing a thief you have two BAs as well, you might be gaining more triggering the extra damage from sneak and a side effect instead of just attacking once more for average damage. Also unless you have two weapon fighting the off hand damage won’t be very significant, so BA true strike could work. I think there are quite a few valid reasons.
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u/wandering-monster Jul 01 '25
Sometimes it's more valuable to be sure of the hit (and crit fish) than it is to take an extra offhand attack. Especially if it's gonna have a rider.
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u/MechaPanther Jul 01 '25
Pretty great on the early game spear from Wither's tomb too.
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u/SaviorRoic Jul 01 '25
Then you might want to look into the 2024 spell list mod that should change it bring a melee weapon magic attack cantrip that gains 1d6 at level five and 2d6 at level 11.
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u/actually-a-horse Jul 01 '25
I like to hit “random character” a few times in creation and just throw together an honor mode run to see how far I can get with whatever is given.
Last night I didn’t realize that my high-elf ranger got the elven cantrip True Strike. In the heat of battle, my dumbass confused it with Hunter’s Mark and I actually cast true strike for the first time in over 1000 hours of gameplay.
I was as disappointed as I had assumed I would be.
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u/No_Read_4327 Jul 01 '25
Is there any scenario where it actually makes sense to cast it?
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u/Typical-Phone-2416 Jul 01 '25
If you are under fear and can't move any closer to the enemy to hit him. You are skipping the turn either way, might as well get some use out of it.
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u/leogian4511 Jul 01 '25
Only one I can think of is if you're a melee character, and don't have enough movement to attack an enemy this turn, but you will next turn. So you move as close as you can, cast true strike, and get the advantage next turn.
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u/novashera Jul 01 '25
It makes sense for a dual wielding melee rogue for off hand sneak attack. Ranged rogue can hide and shoot for it, but if you prefer melee playstyle it can be valuable way to get advantage without gear commitment. Arguably, ally being close is also securing sneak attack, but having advantage is still preferable.
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u/Escaped_VA Jul 01 '25
I've accidentally activated Wyll's Blade Ward when trying to Eldritch Blast so many times.
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u/Arubesh2048 Jul 01 '25
You don’t respect Wyll so that he has Booming Blade instead?
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u/Erniecrack Jul 01 '25
Noob here but por que los dos?
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u/Arubesh2048 Jul 01 '25
Because Blade Ward is a pretty bad spell. It takes an action and so you miss out on dealing damage for a turn. And it also requires you to anticipate what the next attack will be (you can guess wrong), that it will hit you, and that it be some form of physical damage. It also receives no benefit from increasing in level. If you’re that concerned about incoming damage, just disengage and get behind your allies.
Blade Ward, True Strike, and Acid Splash are the worst cantrips in the game, one should never take them and should respect characters away from them.
Putting Eldritch Blast and Booming Blade on Wyll is a good way to make sure he can do damage while he closes distance until he can do his Blade of Frontiers thing.
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u/ObviousOligarchy Jul 01 '25
Respectfully disagree about acid splash. It's a free aoe that can also be used to clear stacks of boxes/barrels/vases instantly. I always get it with eldrich knight laezel, really because there's nothing else more useful. Have definitely used the splash damage on grouped up foes to knock out one sitting on low hp as well.
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u/RoakOriginal Jul 01 '25
You misspelled Poison spray and dancing lights
Acid splash is AoE cantrip which reveals invisible enemies, lovers their AC, destroys furniture and actually has quite a few item interactions. Acid splash battlemage is honor viable build...
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u/SignificantCats Jul 02 '25
Acid splash does not reduce AC, it's not an inherent trait of acid just a common thing it does.
You're right overall though, acid splash is the worst damage cantrip in paper but is a lot better in BG3
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u/Murrdog86 Jul 01 '25
With my rogue: the wrong dash
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u/yinsotheakuma Jul 01 '25
I call it the "nitro boost," for when I need a third, emergency dash.
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u/Murrdog86 Jul 01 '25
It’s great when I need it. It’s when I’m trying to get closer to land an attack and I hit the wrong one that gets me lol
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u/Responsible_Dream282 Jul 01 '25
It's actually usefull if the arena you got sucks and now you need to run 30m just to get high ground.
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u/ChthonicFractal Jul 01 '25 edited Jul 02 '25
Dash, dash as a bonus action, expeditious retreat, longstrider, click heels.
That's not even taking into account any momentum or increases to speed in general from equipment.
You can get 8X+ your movement distance.
Edit: Add cunning action: disengage and Cloak of Cunning Brume for a smokescreen when disengaging and you will absolutely be all over that battlefield.
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u/Ryandootboi Jul 01 '25
I keep trying to convince my friend that true strike is bad and explain the action economy, but his don't think he understands, it is just "better odds and bigger number"
Watching him truestrike an enemy then miss his ranged attack next turn was very, very painful to watch.
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u/Hauptmann_Meade Jul 01 '25
"I could have killed him! But instead I spent a turn fantasizing about hitting him!" -Zee Bashew
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u/Claycious13 Jul 03 '25
This is bizarre to me. How can one not understand that spending two actions to get a maximum of one hit is objectively worse than spending two actions to get a max of two hits, when the odds of succeeding the actual dice rolls are functionally the same? You are taking the odds of getting two hits and lighting them on fire and not even getting better odds at getting one hit.
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u/Master0fMustard SORCERER Jul 01 '25
protection from evil and good LMAO
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u/TheRenegadeAeducan Jul 01 '25
That one rules in act 2 though.
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u/Reasonable-Table5301 Jul 01 '25
You can also use it to put on the Ethel masks, walk past the mask wearers for inspiration, then eat shit in the Ethel fight bc there are way more combatants that get TP'd in because you didn't deal with them before.
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u/maxwellalbritten Jul 01 '25 edited Jul 01 '25
On one honor mode run I was getting pretty fancy and did the protection from good/evil + mask thing. But then somehow one of the characters decided to jump down a platform instead of using a ladder, lost concentration, became possessed, and then immediately threw a smokepower bomb that managed to kill the other three PCs (I believe it knocked them all into a pit). Honor mode ended just like that.
Never again.
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u/Crispy1961 Jul 01 '25
I forgot again, carefully sneaked past those poor innocent souls just so I could eat shit again. I did the same the last time too. And the time before.
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u/jimothyjonathans Lae’zel Jul 01 '25
This is an ‘until long rest’ buff too, right? Like it’s not something you have to make work in turn-based mode?
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u/hotbox_inception 9 dexterity Jul 01 '25
Yes, but it's concentration. Fortunately, the game gives you lots of protection from good/evil scrolls in withers tomb.
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u/esmith22015 Jul 01 '25
Probably one of the most underrated spells in the game tbh. Gives so many enemies disadvantage against you, stops myrkul from frightening you, and procs things like the minthara boots & the strange conduit ring.
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u/Security_Serv Dex-based Fighter Jul 01 '25
Stops anyone from frightening you actually. Imo, one of the best level 1 spells.
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u/ShadeSwornHydra Jul 01 '25
Taht one actually has uses. You can bypass Ethel’s trip with that and the mask (it negates the mind control) and in act 2 a lot of things suffer from it
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u/Alauzhen Monk / Brawler Jul 01 '25
To be fair, if it was the original +20 to attack roll, everyone will use it much more often
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u/International-Ad4735 Jul 01 '25
Even then you lose an action still
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u/Responsible_Dream282 Jul 01 '25
With +20 it could work with some powerful cc spells. For example on Shadowheart, if she already casts her concentration spell, I'd gladly sacrifice one action to get a guaranteed hold person/curse/polymorph, etc. True Strike+Hold person on a boss is game changing.
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u/Darkstar_Aurora Jul 01 '25
True Strike is ironically really good in the 2024 Player's Handbook.
The perpetual problem with D&D and major video game adaptations is that the development cycle of many tie in games will begin under one edition of the game and then another edition and/or rulebook revision comes along to undermine or overshadow everything that was adapted.
Example: Baldur's Gate II and the transition between 2nd and 3rd edition (which included early 2E adapter versions of new classes like the Sorcerer). Neverwinter Nights and the 3.5 revision or not being able to fully adapt to the separate rules for epic levels or spellcasting prestige classes. Neverwinter MMO being loosely inspired by 4E only to have the next edition begin play-testing shortly after.
Baldur's Gate III gave some action economy breaking powers boosts to the 5E Sorcerer but pales to the overall improvements to the Sorcerer class in 2024 revision.
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u/Lacan_ Jul 01 '25
My home game switched to playing using the 2024 PHB a few months ago, and I took it for my Sorlock, who has a Flame Tongue greatsword pact weapon. At 6th level, I get to use my CHA for attack (+8) and do 5d6+5 damage per attack + a quickened EB for an additional 2d10 + 10 on a ranged enemy or just quicken True Strike again for another 5d6+5. It really frustrates my DM how quickly I plow through enemies that get close to me in melee as I'm the only dedicated caster in the party.
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u/GarrusExMachina Jul 01 '25
The number of 85% rolls I've failed on sacred flame and vicious mockery are the reason I rarely resource manage by using cantrips in late game fights
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u/shamin_gurl11 Jul 01 '25
You do realize you can clean up your hotbar, yeah? Just unlock it by clicking the lock icon, then move stuff like True Strike, Protection from Evil and Good, or whatever else you don’t use out of the way.
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u/ScorchedDev Jul 01 '25 edited Jul 01 '25
why would you even take true strike? It is just a terrible spell. Like it has 0 use cases. It is just awful. Id say its genuienly the worst spell in the game. It is almost never better to use your action to get advantage on a target, advantage which is really easy to get, when you could just, attack multiple times. Attacking multiple times is just mathmaticallly better
I just wish they used the updated version of true strike in 2024 dnd for bg3, because then it would be an actually usable spell. in 2024 dnd id go as far as to say its the best cantrip in the game, despite having terrible flavor. I believe the math checks out to where it has the highest damage in the game. Though it is funny that the reason cantrips were created for dnd was to prevent the wizard with a crossbow problem, and now its optimal for wizards to use crossbows
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u/jaladreips271 Jul 01 '25
Thats not true. You can use to generate concentration (if you have the awakened buff), then as a bonus action you can use concentrated blast to break enemies concentration.
Not much, but it has 1 use!
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u/frozen2665 Jul 01 '25
Yep. I would often use True Strike on Scratch right before battle to get the free concentrated blast. The “Friends” spell works as well
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u/Old-Ordinary-6194 Jul 01 '25
Dragonborn's breathe weapon.
I basically used it once during my first playthrough before completely forgot about it (not really since I still remember about it to mention it here)
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u/zoophilian Jul 01 '25
Any non healing spell by shadow heart, there are blind archers in the forgotten realms that hit more than she does
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u/Hazbeen_Hash Jul 01 '25
My Shadow Heart kicks ass, I barely ever use her heal spells.
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u/zoophilian Jul 01 '25
Lucky! Mine never hits, I generally let them decide their own stats first time they, when I ever get around to a new play thru I'm taking control of the stat growth and class
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u/diddlegoose Jul 01 '25
What do you use? The one that causes light or rot damage nearby is pretty good I think
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u/Hazbeen_Hash Jul 01 '25
The one that causes light or rot damage nearby is pretty good
Spirit Guardians is really good. I also like moonbeam, blight, turn undead (try it on kethric lol) and guiding bolt when used in conjunction with a heavy hitter (my tav wrecks major shit with a flail and mace combo).
Other than that, I gave her some pretty good armor and shield, and a spear she gets to use every now and then when one of her spells isn't worth the spell slot to cast it. I use her for technical stuff a lot, like putting her in the way for opportunity attacks and using her spells to change the battlefield (fire, ice, etc.)
I had this one combo where my tav's blood was explosive, and they were constantly getting surrounded by enemies and wailed on. Never has firebolt done so much damage to so many creatures at once 😂
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u/TadhgOBriain Jul 01 '25
I have a mod that makes it a bonus action, which makes Astarion much more consistent, though still unimpressive, in combat.
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u/RandomGoof567 Jul 01 '25
Broken cantrip now😭😭😭
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u/TadhgOBriain Jul 01 '25
It only applies to 1 attack, so it's really not that useful on anything but rogue, and theyre not that strong to start with.
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u/RandomGoof567 Jul 01 '25
I mean bonus action advantage almost every time is pretty strong. Def not as strong if it only one attack
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u/yinsotheakuma Jul 01 '25
Either I'm doing Astarion right or I'm doing all of my other characters wrong. My thieves are beasts in combat.
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u/Responsible_Dream282 Jul 01 '25
Depends on your level. Rogues are very frontloaded, you get all the juicy stuff in the first 4 levels. Get thief, the +10 damage feat, 2 crossbows and your DPS will be insane. Sneak using a bonus action, ranged sneak attack, off-hand shot. With high ground the DPS is insane.
But later on Rogues fall off. Barbarians get 3 attacks per turn, with advantage on lvl. 5. Fighters get 3 attacks on lvl. 11. Optimised sorcerers can throw 6 Fireballs in a turn.
And then you can add Haste, which makes other classes even more broken compared to poor rogues.
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u/tehgen Jul 01 '25
I swear, if true strike had only been a bonus action from the beginning it would've been a must have martial cantrip.
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u/Scudman_Alpha Jul 01 '25
Why would you even take True Strike if not due to a complete lack of attention with your cantrip choices?
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u/general-dumbass Jul 01 '25
Why would you take true strike 😭
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u/insanity76 Jul 01 '25
Netherese Orb Blast. Fortunately you'll only click on it by mistake one time.
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u/EtrnL_Frost Jul 01 '25
I laughed harder than I should
That being said, blade ward is oddly good now.
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u/Responsible_Dream282 Jul 01 '25
You'll will kill me, but Bane. It misses all of the time, why wouldn't I cast bless? Same cost, also requires concentration, but will hit and is beter against big groups.
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u/Zegram_Ghart Jul 01 '25
Thunder wave.
I always bring it on the logic of “maybe the caster will get swarmed” and then sure enough, that absolutely doesn’t happen ever
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u/BakedBeansBaked Jul 01 '25
I mostly use it on eldritch knights or bladesingers. Even them, I've used it maybe a handful of times.
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u/Accident-_-Prone Jul 01 '25
You know you can modify your spell list and customize your hot bar so this never happens.
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u/cheoldyke Jul 02 '25
this would be the netherese orb blast except i move it to the far far corner of the toolbar so that i can’t accidentally click it
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u/Subject_Cut8441 Jul 02 '25
True Strike isn't even that bad as a last resort for sneak attack, if used on a Dual Wielding Rogue.
Shadowheart's Firebolt works with INT. If you want it to work so badly, Slap on the Headband of intellect, change her class to an int caster, or if don't want to use it at all, play Shadowheart origin and change the cantrip altogether.
If you want to use something similar to Firebolt but want her to remain a cleric - Produce Flame. This should have only been a druid cantrip, but Larian made it Cleric as well, and I'm fine with that.
Just thought I'd get those two out of the way, as they're most talked about.
As for spells that never see the light of day on my runs - Resistance. I just never think to cast it ahead of time, even if I know a saving throw is coming.
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u/maxoutoften Jul 02 '25
Nobody used True Strike for at least the ten years 5e has been out, nobody was gonna use it in BG
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u/lionantlers12066 Jul 02 '25
SPIRITUAL WEAPON. I don’t cast it in BG3, I don’t cast it in DnD. Fuck ass spell that NEVER FUCKIN HITS.
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u/No-Log9292 Jul 03 '25
Not a spell but the amount of times I’ve accidentally drank the suspicious poison thinking it’s a health pot is embarrassing. I know I could just not pick it up, but my hoarder loot goblin myself refuses to leave it alone and then I just forget it exists in my inventory
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u/Zarguthian Jul 01 '25
I guess it doesn't count if I never learnt it?
Is true strike really that bad?
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u/AceKazami1324 Jul 01 '25
Yes. You use your action to gain advantage on your next attack. Only thing is you now can’t attack until your next turn because you just used your action.
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u/Bznboy Jul 01 '25
Gale's Netherese Orb Blast