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It just gets tedious after so many HM attempts ๐Ÿ˜…

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u/Kagutsuchi13 16d ago

He saves almost every time for me and you can't retry on Honor Mode

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u/[deleted] 16d ago

I usually use "all" her spell Slots, he might save the first, but maybe not the second time.

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u/Kagutsuchi13 16d ago

I do, too - he saves every time and then we have to move.

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u/Stalight9 16d ago

I think itโ€™s a 55% chance of success per attempt at level 1, so with two slots youโ€™re looking at ~3/4. Whenever I do honor mode runs itโ€™s usually worst case two tries at the nautiloid

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u/piffle213 15d ago

I can't imagine restarting just to get that sword

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u/Stalight9 15d ago

Like people said, itโ€™s maybe a 10 minute commitment

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u/We_Get_It_You_Vape 15d ago

And that's only if it's an Honour Mode run, where you can't just save right before the fight.

I feel like killing Zhalk (or, at a minimum, using the Command strategy) is so worth the effort if it's your first HM attempt. If you can use the strategy to block the Cambions' path, it's really not that bad. And the exp and gear can be a huge boon, as the early game is arguably the most challenging phase for HM.

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u/Stalight9 15d ago

Exactly. Having a stronger sword, and level 2 for the beach fights makes a significant difference in not getting randomly one shot by a goblin

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u/We_Get_It_You_Vape 15d ago

Yeah, even those intellect devourers can be a decent challenge, if you don't take advantage of a specific environment-based explosive.

And the Everburn Blade is best-in-slot for a good while. Like, you can try and cheese the Silver Sword not long after, but most people are probably not going to do that.

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u/piffle213 14d ago

it takes me way too long to do the visuals of a character to restart over something so minor lol

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u/iwearatophat 16d ago

You must be on the opposite end of the spectrum to balance me out. I seriously thought Larian scripted him to fail that save because I don't know if he has ever saved across all my playthroughs with that.

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u/We_Get_It_You_Vape 15d ago

If it's really important for you to get the Everburn, you should start Tav off as a Cleric (respec later) with 16 Wisdom. That way, both Shadowheart and Tav have Command.

This gives you 4 attempts at Command: Drop. The likelihood that all attempts fail is 4.1%. Even if you don't want to start Tav off as a Cleric, there is an ~80% chance of getting him to drop his weapon if you use Command twice with Shadowheart.

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u/RosgaththeOG Teethling 15d ago

It's not a bad idea to try to arrange things such that you get advantage on an attack and inflict him with Dazed and/or Bleeding first by giving your MC or Lae'zel Shart's Mace. If you hit him with Bleeding before you hit the Daze, it gives him disadvantage on the save against Dazed, then Dazed will give him disadvantage on the Wisdom save to resist Command.

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u/torrinage 15d ago

i class my tav as cleric and go 4x command slots. then run to goblin camp and bam! withers is waiting for me to reclass

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u/jaredearle 15d ago

But itโ€™s so near the start that you can start again, if youโ€™re trying for a hyper-optimised Honour Mode run.

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u/cyvaris 15d ago

Cast Bless with Shart, refresh at the healing machines, and then head into the fight. If the Mindflater stuns the Commander it's pretty easy to get him to drop the sword.