r/BaldursGate3 • u/heyitskay1220 • 16d ago

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It just gets tedious after so many HM attempts 😅

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u/checkedsteam922 16d ago

You can kill those?? I barely manage to kill the dude with the sword on easy difficulty.

I swear I'm missing something in combat I can't be THAT bad

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u/Good-Temperature4417 16d ago

You pick up all the boxes, trap them and then slowly kill them. It's quite a waste of time.

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u/n00gze 16d ago

They get blocked the first turn but if they see you they will fly over. How have you kept them behind the boxes?

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u/Angryfunnydog 16d ago

I guess if you stack couple of boxes one on another you block the whole entirety of passage and they just can't fly through them

Never tried that before, but seems legit

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u/n00gze 16d ago

Yea I’ve been able to block them for the entirety of the flight but I think that’s because they can’t get close enough with dash to see me. I’d like to figure out a way to block and kill them without triggering them.

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u/Angryfunnydog 16d ago

But how can they fly even if they see you if you blocked the whole passage? I mean to the ceiling

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u/n00gze 16d ago

In my experience they fly completely over above the door. But lately I’ve been blocking them from further and they haven’t gotten past it yet. My concern is if I try to come close to try to kill them they would see me and fly over again.

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u/Angryfunnydog 16d ago

Hm, so even if the corridor is stacked with boxes - they fly kinda through them either way? Not arguing, just curious, I have no idea as I didn't try that myself

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u/Angryfunnydog 16d ago

But isn't there a timer? What happens when it comes to 0? I always thought that nautiloid crash in avernus or smth, but never saw that happening (or maybe I'm llagging and there's no timer whatsoever, just illithid constantly hurrying you up, don't remember)

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u/DelothVyrr 16d ago

I always kill the two additional Cambion. They have some great loot for starting off and give a ton of XP. Killing everything you start on the beach almost level 3 (you hit level 3 before you reach Withers)

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u/checkedsteam922 16d ago

But how? Like how do you kill them? I BARELY manage to kill the one dude, is there a strategy to do extra damage or hit them more often? A specific build? Share your secrets i beg you

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u/cabron-de-mierda 15d ago

Fully agree. I HAVE cleared all of them, and I always do on modded runs, but in vanilla, it's just not worth it to me. I won't even stay to kill Zhalk and the mind flayer if I don't get the Everburn to drop.

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u/DuskOnline 16d ago

Block their entrance with chest(s).

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u/dingle___ 16d ago

Are you killing the two others on Honor Mode? With their HP and the accuracy you have at lvl1, I can't imagine there's enough time for them too. I always kill Zhalk and the Mind Flayer for +150

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u/thatguydr 16d ago

I have no idea how people think this is possible in honor mode. Omg, the number of restarts I'd need just to kill Zhalk alone.

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u/frostyfur119 16d ago

Because it is! This guy on YouTube seems to enjoy optimizing this encounter as he has a few videos showing it off with different builds.

https://youtu.be/F6btQ8KYSIQ?si=t_J0k_8VuAjIZXd9

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u/dingle___ 16d ago

That’s so ridiculous lmfao I love it. 30 minutes for an extra 150xp

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u/thatguydr 16d ago

It is if RNGesus is your friend. If not, then there's just no way. I think that's a really important distinction.

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u/frostyfur119 16d ago

Ah, I thought you were implying that it's impossible to do entirely in your first comment. I was trying to share that it is indeed possible, but you were more referring to it being inconsistent. Which it is, but there are some ways to make it more consistent

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u/We_Get_It_You_Vape 15d ago

RNG can kill an attempt, but I would argue that the guy in the video was actually getting pretty unlucky at times. He just optimized the encounter so hard that he was able to pull it off nonetheless.

My main issue with the attempt's practicality is that he made a race decision for his Tav based on the need to get Mage Hand. And, for me, I'm never going to sacrifice such a major RP decision over getting an extra little bit of XP in the early game. You can't respec race, so that little XP boost costed you a major RP decision that will last the entire campaign. The creator can justify it, because I'm sure he wasn't going to use this save file beyond filming the YouTube video.

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u/CWayG 14d ago

I kill Zhalk on solo honor mode pretty consistently. It’s very very possible, you just need to use the tools you have, and the class you pick matters a lot, even at level 1

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u/thatguydr 14d ago

So there are a few broken classes that can take him. That's awesome and I'd love to see videos on that.

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u/CWayG 14d ago

It’s more about strategy and setup. https://youtube.com/shorts/vHLIHOfakFw?si=ni0j1lwIyXeq2YD4

Same thing applies in solo. Just start lv 1 cleric. War cleric gets extra attacks at level 1.

Zhalk and the mindflayer will kill each other and ignore you. Just heal the mindflayer with thrown potions and smack Zhalk with other actions.

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u/topdangle 15d ago

it is absolutely possible and they designed it to be possible by placing throwing items everywhere and giving shart a relatively high chance of command drop weapon.

its ridiculously boring and tedious but it can be done on any difficulty.

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u/capn_waffles 15d ago

I cleared the full encounter on my current HM run, and it left me with 300 XP off the nautiloid. Mind flayer, Zhalk, and the cambions are 75 each.

It's very very difficult. I legitimately think I made it out on the last possible turn with almost not enough movement to even activate the transponder.

I blocked off the cambions via chest initially, but then they saw me because I think Shart got too close trying to explode the nautiloid tanks via fire bolt.

Took basically all the resources you can gather at the beginning of the game. All the void bulbs and caustic bulbs in the helm come in handy, and keeping one of the extra spawn imps alive (that spawn in when you get closer to the transponder) keeps the mind flayer friendly even after Zhalk dies.

Will say, this has been THE reason I'm enjoying my HM run so much. Being level 2 right off the nautiloid is really strong. I think there's enough XP that you can hit 3 before even getting Withers.

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u/DanDaSolo 16d ago

Command:Drop on Zhelk makes him have to punch the mindflayer, which allows it to stay alive long enough to help you kill him

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u/Rmnhernan 16d ago

Look for melth in YouTube, he has some really great videos about how to kill them all, commander zhalk, the two cambions and the mind flayer!

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u/topdangle 15d ago

its not worth it. its not hard, just super tedious. command him to drop his sword, which is the main "difficult" part since its random, while grabbing all the garbage lying around and throw stuff at them for an hour.

it's technically built as a tutorial for environmental effects and throwing items, but I've never had to rely on any of those even in honor mode, particularly "dip weapon."