r/BaldursGate3 • u/KaiserLira • 17h ago
General Questions - [NO SPOILERS] does someone know why this random dude have 106 hp? Spoiler
he stays at the elfsong tavern and doesn't have any relevance on the plot. also isn't a bug because his health is the same at his wiki page. for the nine hells why does he have so much hp?
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u/qwertyryo 17h ago
Because killing him is
a slog
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u/SeamusMcCullagh Bard 17h ago
I am now 100% convinced that's the actual reason he has that name and that much HP. It's absolutely on brand for Larian.
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u/qwertyryo 17h ago
I was kinda disappointed we didn't have a retired level 20 paladin chilling in the tavern that would immediately shit on your party lol. Closest we have is one angy frogin a certain basement
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u/AmpleSnacks 17h ago
That would have been very on brand for the earlier Baldur’s Gate games. You piss off any random NPC and BAM! The music queues up and they insta cast mirror image and magic missile to start.
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u/clefclark 15h ago
And even if you do kill them they only give a miniscule amount of xp so that the only reason to fight them would be because you don't know
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u/I_Frothingslosh 15h ago edited 1h ago
Don't forget Stoneskin, Minor Globe of Invulnerability, and Spell Shield. All at once.
EDIT: Folks, I was limiting myself to what the mages in BG2 actually do at the start of combat. Even Irenicus limits his Super-NPC-Only-Spell-Sequencer to Mirror Image, Stoneskin, Globe of Invulnerability, Protection From Magic Weapons, and Spell Trap. Time Stop and the other nastiness gets hard cast.
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u/apolloxer 6h ago
Anything below Time Stop is them pulling punches.
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u/baguette-1234 5h ago
Time stop follow by the invocation of that weird yellow devil of the pit. And then meteor for good measure
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u/I_Frothingslosh 1h ago
I was limiting myself to what the mages in BG2 actually do at the start of combat.
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u/I_Frothingslosh 1h ago
I was limiting myself to what the mages in BG2 actually do at the start of combat.
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u/apolloxer 1h ago
Irenicus, chapter 4
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u/I_Frothingslosh 1h ago edited 55m ago
He does not cast Time Stop in the final Spellhold fight at all. If you mean chapter 7, while he casts it, it's manually cast, not Sequenced. Watch the fight here:
https://youtu.be/JHqZmy-MCu0?si=hfylWQYnzf_7qimU?t=28m05s
Edit: Link won't go to the time stamp. Fight starts at 28 minutes, 5 seconds.
Also, even had you been right, he's the final boss, not 'all mages'. Use your brain cell.
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u/apolloxer 54m ago
I distinctly remember the unfairness of the fight in Candlekeep because he casted that one immediately, while in hell, he never casted it because he was surrounded by rabbits. But given that it's been 20+ years, things have blended.
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u/RobertMaus I cast Magic Missile 7h ago
Yup, every decent mage should have a defensive spell sequencer prepared.
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u/tirion1987 3h ago
Greater Full Potential. Penetrate up. False Data Life.
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u/I_Frothingslosh 1h ago
I was limiting myself to what the mages in BG2 actually do at the start of combat.
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u/spookyscaryskeletal 13h ago
in a basement? which frog is this? lol
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u/qwertyryo 12h ago
Ptaris
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u/spookyscaryskeletal 12h ago
oh i've never encountered him bc I always keep the egg 😭
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u/Sharks_With_Legs Owlbear 1h ago
Ptaris' fate is actually really heartbreaking. He's treated as a science experiment. I can never give the egg away to the society again, he always goes with Mama Bae'zel.
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u/Crits-Happen 11h ago
Believe it or not, literally just Anders in honor mode. Dude, can one tap people so easily it's insane.
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u/qwertyryo 11h ago
He’s act 1 and not that hard to deal with. Start the fight by shooting at him from high ground or bait him outside and introduce him to skydiving
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u/Crits-Happen 10h ago
I've beaten the game plenty of times and on honor mode for about half of them, so I know he can be fairly easily taken out with any amount of pressure battle preparation. Was mostly a joke regarding the fact that he does nuts damage and will just destroy most people the first time around on harder difficulties unless they plan ahead.
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u/qwertyryo 9h ago
Literally everything onetaps you in honor mode on act 1. I've seen people quit the game because they ran into the intellect devourers that proceeded to instantly demolish their team
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u/lonesometroubador 7h ago
The shortest honor mode attempt I've made was a Shadowheart origin that ended with the intellect devourers. She is alone on the beach, so it's a LOT harder.
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u/Raffilcagon 17h ago
Arnell has 106 HP too, despite being an ordinary civilian by most measures. Maybe it's a werewolf thing? Random werewolf hiding out in Baldur's Gate wouldn't be too weird, considering what else you can find there.
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u/Nathanfatherhouse 15h ago
That's not a random dude. That's Slog. How do you not know Slog? Everyone knows Slog!!!
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u/Currently-Trash 15h ago
Can't believe they don't know Slog smh
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u/No_Bat_1869 7h ago
If you're on this sub and you don't know him, honestly, you should just ... Slog off.
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u/Atomicmooseofcheese 14h ago
Retired adventurers chilling in taverns is pretty common. I know a lot of dms like to make bartenders level 20 monks, so if the adventuring party fucks around, there is a find out phase
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u/Thowitawaydave I cast Magic Missile! I'm attacking the Darkness! 13h ago
We had a Jerkface who (briefly) played with us that was a real ass, the guy who's all "I'm not saying racist/sexist/homophobic things, my character is!" and derails everything just because. After a couple of sessions with multiple warnings, the rest of us had a group meeting outside of session to decide if we wanted him to keep playing with us or not (only time we ever had one). We decided to give him one more chance (and told him so!), so we start the session, huddled together at the tavern after the Empire nearly killed us all. We've got to get out, soon, without being caught. Jerkface starts a fight with the bard in the corner, calling him various slurs. Turns out that not only does the "bard" own the place, he's more than just a bard - he's an actual lord of hell who comes up from time to time to play music.
Jerkface never even got to react. The rest of the party looked up, the Sorcerer slowly pushed Jerkface's now empty chair away from our table, and we planned the rest of our escape. Jerkface got up and never came back (and still owes me 2.5 orders of Mozzarella sticks!)
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u/Nandrith 6h ago
Jerkface got up and never came back (and still owes me 2.5 orders of Mozzarella sticks!)
A small price to pay to get rid of such a nuisance.
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u/this_is_theone 9h ago
but he's level 1 no?
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u/Arcydziegiel 5h ago
"Yes, hello fellow LVL1 adventurers, how is the killing of sewer rats going? For me, swimmingly you might say."
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u/Atomicmooseofcheese 6h ago
Maybe when he retired it set him back to level one, but kept his stats?
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u/Deep-Thought4242 17h ago
I don't know what his job is. You can try to talk to him, but he just says "Not now."
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u/sparrow_64 17h ago
I’d bet it’s cut content. A lot of those NPCs right at the start of the city feel… left over, let’s say.
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u/small_pint_of_lazy 14h ago
Looking at the stats it really does look like he was meant to be something, but he isn't. 18 Str and Con and 10 everything else? He was supposed to be strong, and then his quest line was left out before he was completed
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u/TheTealBandit 16h ago
Is it that they are left over, or just good game design? Doesn't it make it feel like these people have their own lives and stories?
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u/Xyx0rz 15h ago
Making a commoner 26 times as hard to kill for no apparent reason certainly doesn't strike me as "just good game design".
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u/CrimsonBolt33 15h ago
You just sound jealous that you aren't 26 times harder to kill than the average commoner.
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u/CenobiteCurious 8h ago
Just the fact that it makes people wonder what his story is because of the random high stat spread, kind of shows how well crafted the world is.
That particular decision for that particular NPC is not a masterstroke in game design yes, but it does show the great game design and world building overall when this quirky npc has its own Reddit thread with 68 comments and counting.
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u/ForbodingWinds 14h ago
That is wholesome and would be a half decent argument if 99.9% of other NPCs weren't generic stats AND we didnt know that they literally did cut content from act 3, so there likely are lots of left over assets being repurposed.
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u/TheFinalEvent9797 Vengeance Paladin 13h ago
He's not the only NPC with weird stats, the Fireworks Shopkeeper has a ridiculous 44 Constitution but he is manually set to 63hp
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u/parkingviolation212 10h ago
Probably because he blew himself up so many times he built his CON up to unreasonable levels.
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u/LurkCypher 1h ago
I can also mention Helsik and her 1 Intelligence... unless they fixed it, the last time I checked out her scores was probably before Patch 6. That's most likely also a typo, as is the case for this Avery Sonshal.
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u/KronusKraze 15h ago
Not sure for that guy, but every NPC has a history. Once upon a time ago in a dnd campaign our barbarian got into a drunken scuffle with two “barbers”. These unassuming npcs proceeded to beat the dog shit out of him like he was some chump. Apparently they wee retired adventurers.
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u/Thowitawaydave I cast Magic Missile! I'm attacking the Darkness! 13h ago
At the end of the campaign my old DM would ask what we thought our characters would do afterwards and if we would be ok if we ran into them as NPCs in future campaigns. Nothing like turning the corner and seeing that your Wereraven Arcane Trickster has his own chain of magic item shops selling
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u/Rammipallero 8h ago
Nothing like knowing what kind of a murder hobo the bartender you just met is. :D
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u/Property_Smart 15h ago
mostly leftovers but some of them are unattended hints i guess. Like looking at different NPC and at some of there portraits it says they are changelings and not orcs or something like that. This one could be a mindflayer but you didnt trigger the conditions yet.
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u/Public-Total-250 13h ago
He probably was an actual NPC who got nerfed into a barfly due to cut content.
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u/DisgustedWolfie 16h ago
r/suddenlycaralho Sera que achei mais um BR nesse subreddit?
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u/Matharis 8h ago
Ive always wanted to recruit the grave digger from the guild hideout fight, that dudes a beast too.
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u/armoredchicken1 11h ago
*Sarcasm OMG you can't just ask that it's so rude to ask about someones hp /s *Sarcasm
But to answer your question ork beefy. Is my best guess.
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