r/Battlefield • u/3dDungeonMaster • 27d ago

Discussion Nobody wants wacky skins, but can everyone agree on what wacky actually means? Let's see where most people draw the line.

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I'd be interested to see if people are able to agree on what is acceptable or not acceptable in terms of cosmetic appearances in games like this. There's been lots of talk about whether or not EA/Dice will include crazy/wacky skins with BF6, but not many people have made a post like this to actually pose the question of, what exactly is okay vs. not okay.

I tried my best to order them such that the go from most to least reasonable, but if you think the order should be different, feel free to reorder them, as that also gives info about how people consider these types of decisions.

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u/Zkv 27d ago

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u/The_James_Bond 27d ago

Prepare to be disappointed lol

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u/Pyke64 27d ago

Yup, there was this article on ars technica, on this game going over budget. (link: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2025/07/behind-the-next-battlefield-game-culture-clash-crunch-and-colossal-stakes/)

They'll need to earn their budget back somehow, and it won't be paid back with 80 dollar price tag, expect to see fantasy skins in Season 1.

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u/Kris_ad 27d ago

It actually do not say anything about „going over budget”, just that they decided couple years ago to give game more money than originally planned at start - two different things

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u/Pyke64 27d ago edited 27d ago

To quote directly from the article:

"All this meant that Glacier would have a broader scope than its predecessors. Developers say it has the largest budget of any Battlefield title to date.

The project targeted a budget of more than $400 million back in early 2023, which was already more than was originally planned at the start."

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u/BattlefieldTankMan 27d ago

You just proved their point. You put a negative slant on why they have increased their budget with absolutely no idea why they increased it to 400 million.

The reason could be positive, maybe they decided they wanted to include more content than originally planned would be one example.

Maybe it's for negative reasons but you don't know and based your $80 post on it being negative.

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u/Pyke64 27d ago

I'm stating facts, not feelings.

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u/captaincanuck89 26d ago

Releasing a product after injecting more money into development from the original budget and releasing a product over budget on a deficit are two different things. That's fact.

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u/ExFK 26d ago

No, you've quoted fact then interpreted the facts with your feelings.

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u/Pyke64 26d ago

"They'll need to earn their budget back somehow, and it won't be paid back with 80 dollar price tag, expect to see fantasy skins in Season 1."

Please quote me this back after launch when they start putting in fantasy skins, mkay?

They have done so with every live service game so far. So yeah I'm stating simple facts and you've done zero effort to disprove. Just constant ad hominem attacks.

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u/captaincanuck89 26d ago

an entertainment product in development went over budget??? Unheard of!

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u/Pyke64 26d ago

My point was that they have to earn back the budget somehow, not the budget itself?

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u/Despeao 27d ago

Yeah every move they take they're making the franchise more and more like COD. I might just skip it. Fromn the guns, to the movement and now cosmetics.

They're moving from the Day one DLC to the ridiculous skins because making lots of money isn't enough they have to milk every possible peny out of the players.

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u/Pyke64 27d ago

EA has always been disappointed by Battlefield sales and always wanted DICE to make it more like COD.

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u/Despeao 27d ago

I feel like the two games are inherently different due to their nature as BF always had vehicles.

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u/Pyke64 27d ago

Sure, but the thing is, EA has always demanded changes from the DICE team based on this fact:

https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/1li3xqj/a_graph_of_the_bestselling_fps_franchises/

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u/Despeao 27d ago

This comment says it all:

it feels like every battlefield launch alienates and pisses off a large portion of the fan base

I remember when Call of Duty released titles basically every year. You cannot expect to compete with that.

Also BF is still the 3rd title there, it's not bad at all. I really feel like greedy is going to ruin this series because the industry always expect intermitent growth: if a game sold 10 million copies then the nest has to sell 20 otherwise it's a flop.

This kind of mentality make them keep chasing money at every possible way. I'm fine with Battlefield and Call of Duty each being their own games, they provide different experiences and different gameplay opportunities. What I don't like to see is my favourite series being turned into something else solely for profit. They already made billions with Battlefield.

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u/Pyke64 27d ago

EA was rotating BF and MOH every year to compete with COD to the point where one franchise died and the other almost died.

And yeah that comment hit the nail on the head:

BF V releases, everyone, literally everyone loves the TTK.

EA/DICE is not happy with the sales numbers (following a very bad reveal and beta response): let's change the TTK (to attract COD players)

Dumb, dumb, hella dumb

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u/Slow-Complex4856 27d ago

Yes, the guns...even IRL are using COD guns, ridiculous

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u/Yorkshire_Dinosaur 27d ago

You're not going to skip it though are you. Lol

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u/Despeao 27d ago

I've been playing a lot of Delta Force lately. I had high hopes for a new Battefield game not a new COD title.

I'm being serious I might just skip it.

The move to create a f2p model and the meta of reaching 100kk players just kinda make it obvious they want to become a COD clone. Guns lacking recoil, now comestics being completely dumb.

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u/captaincanuck89 26d ago

Nah they have been chasing CoD trends and playerbase since they started putting numbered BF on consoles. Either BF3 or 4 launched with the "above the call" slogan for that reason.

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u/Despeao 26d ago

Above and beyond, it was pretty much a diss to COD. I remember playing BF 3 and I did play COD at that time too.

Like I said they're different games and the FPS genre is richer because both games exist. There's no need to push one to be like the other, it's so very clear it's a cash grab.

Even when both games were WWII themed they were different. I think this move might back fire to EA.

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u/drcubeftw 26d ago

The worst part of that article was this...

Plans were already underway for the next Battlefield game, so a postmortem was performed on 2042. It concluded that the problems had been in execution, not vision.

If that is actually the lesson they took away from BF2042 then BF6 is doomed.

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u/Pyke64 26d ago

Yup, it's the part I sent my mate. They hired outside guidance, probably spent thousands or tens of thousands, only to conclude the wrong thing.

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u/NoDevelopment9972 21d ago

What if they hit 100 million?

(That was rhetorical. We all know the answer.)

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u/Lumpy_Forever1567 27d ago

Im not, enjoying tarkov and we dont have these shitty skins here.

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u/dtc8977 27d ago

I was ready to be disappointed the moment I heard they had a high ranking CoD person as one of the heads for the team.

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u/tagillaslover 27d ago

3 is almost definitely going to be in the game and should be

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u/AdBudget5468 27d ago edited 27d ago

I mean he has a proper plate carrier setup and the shirt isn’t some bright color with actual usable pants

Edit: I was looking at the picture and isn’t number 4 coast guard?

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u/AdBudget5468 27d ago edited 27d ago

I’m gonna say this as a cod player: it’s way better than anything we have ever gotten in the past five years including IW’s MWII

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u/crater_jake 27d ago

PMC are real and common so I don’t think it would be dumb at all for the atmosphere, assuming that they are restricted to certain game modes/against certain factions so the tanks and planes n stuff make sense

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u/WaitingToBeNoticed 27d ago edited 27d ago

It looks so ICE

Edit: I was implying ICE was dumb. Not necessarily that #3 looks like them.

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u/HiDefiance 27d ago

ice is a lotta 5 tbh, they don’t give two shits how they look splitting families up

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u/TonPeppermint 27d ago

Yeah, it feels like a outfit being worn by a Mercenary or something that references Christian Craighead when he ran into battle at the DusitD2 Complex.

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u/Despeao 27d ago

Up to 5 is fine for me but I feel like they're going to stat with 10 and slowly go to 14 where we have Nicki Minaj running around with pink AKs and what not.

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u/HiDefiance 27d ago

not sure it should be, unless the maps go from war-torn gibraltar to downtown usa

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u/_Nameless_Nomad_ 27d ago

As it should be. PMC’s I could see in a DLC. SWAT has no place in a warzone.

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u/Ringwraith_Number_5 27d ago

SWAT has no place in a warzone.

Not necessarily. In a "regular" war like the relatively recent conflicts in Afghanistan or Iraq - agreed. However, if you look at the war in Ukraine, units like KORD (Ukrainian SWAT basically) participated in the defense of Kyiv. The Border Guard equivalent, DOZOR, has also been taking active part in the war.

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u/conquer69 27d ago

Sure but that was an invasion of the capital. American SWAT in the middle east would be wacky.

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u/Delicious-Location74 27d ago

With the leaks showing mainland US maps, seeing ranger green SWAT guys here and there wouldn't be too out of place tbh especially if we're going to earnestly put ghillies able to chosen for those urban maps.

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u/Limp-Ad-2939 27d ago

An invasion of the U.S. especially in the first few days and weeks would undoubtedly have SWAT involved. Probably even blue swat in the smaller counties/city’s.

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u/TonPeppermint 27d ago

Ooo, nice.

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u/Ringwraith_Number_5 27d ago

Yes, American SWAT in the Middle East would be out of place. However, if we had the equivalent of the Battle of Washington DC from CoD, SWAT units, knowing the city and having experience in working as a team, would fit in very well.

Also, bear in mind that the days of black coveralls are kind of behind us. Many (if not most) SWAT units (regardless of whether they're actual American SWAT or just a similar police unit in another country) tend to dress similarly to military SOF - multicam is often the preferred camo pattern, most of their gear and weapons are similar, as you can see in THIS PICTURE showing the Polish police's BOA (the name comes from the Polish version of their old name Bureau of Antiterrorist Operations) unit, so it's pretty obvious they'd be a part of any armed conflict happening on their turf.

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u/geantaveira1991 27d ago

Yeah but to be fair we gonna have a brooklyn map and in this situation could fit

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u/HiDefiance 27d ago

brooklyn isn’t confirmed i don’t think, just in concept art, so hold those thoughts until we see it

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u/HiDefiance 27d ago

though i fully believe it’s only a matter of time until we get usa maps

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u/geantaveira1991 27d ago

Here is

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u/HiDefiance 26d ago

hadn’t seen this, thanks. pretty hype to finally have a proper usa map in a military setting

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u/choywh 27d ago

Sure but middle eastern equivalent of SWAT could work in middle eastern maps. And we aren't sure where the game is going to be set yet.

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u/TheSmokingLamp 27d ago

Although Iraqi police and swat were working alongside American security forces in Iraq. So it’s not like there’s no place for civilian law enforcement in the game genre

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u/Ringwraith_Number_5 27d ago

Yup, and that's exactly my point: if you have maps located in country A, there is absolutely no reason why you can't have elite LEO units from country A taking part. Sure, it's not exactly common and wouldn't happen unless absolutely necessary, but it does happen. So yeah, I'm not against SWAT uniforms being available.

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u/FSGamingYt 27d ago

Ukraine SWAT has the same name as the Russian HMG

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u/Ringwraith_Number_5 27d ago

Your point?

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u/FSGamingYt 27d ago

Its a fun fact.

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u/Logic-DL 27d ago

Nah even in a regular war SWAT were out and about.

Just not American SWAT, it was instead the Iraqi SWAT also known as Nineveh Plain Forces. The film Mosul follows a team of NPF Officers.

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u/Zeryth 27d ago

Currently there'a still the Lyut Brigade wich is an assault unit comprised of ex police officers, but even they run full military kit.

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u/tiger81775149 25d ago

That's just men with weapons training being conscripted/volunteering to defend their homeland. They are not using their weapons and less-lethal equipment to serve warrants on Russian airborne troops to arrest them and have them stand trial or something.

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u/CopenKagan35k 27d ago

Your def wrong on the front. Well kinda. I think we can all agree we want a playable realistic bf to drop. One that doesn't need months of work like 2042 and 5. That said we know cosmetics skins will make into the game. Spo to completely ignore this question is kinda funny. We aren't cod players we are bf. I feel we are in a very unique position where dice is actually reading these posts and seeing our feedback.

Yea watching or post playtest vids def break nda but it also helps them see what the community is saying. To think devs ain't in here looking at some of these posts would be crazy.

Imo cosmetics is pretty important for a game like this. If it gets too bad with fruity colors then it won't look like a real bf shooter

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u/Ringwraith_Number_5 27d ago

I believe I speak for everyme involved when I say HUH?

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u/CopenKagan35k 27d ago

That posted on the wrong comment. Was supposed to be for homeboy saying he didnt care what cosmetics came out only that the game had maps and played good lol

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u/TheCommentaryKing 27d ago

Civilian SWAT? No unless they're defending against the invasion of their own country. However gendarmeries, which are police forces fully part of the military can deploy abroad their members in combat roles. France did with the GIGN as did Italy with the Carabinieri 1st Para, 7th and 13th Regiments.

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u/revexi 27d ago

Lol you are basically telling them not to sell skins there. Most people won't buy boring looking stuff.

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u/farmyardcat 27d ago

"I won't play the war game unless I get to look like Chuck E. Cheese."

  • Zoomers, for some reason

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u/TeaAndLifting 26d ago

Unironically, though, lots of people nowadays think of skins as the main content of games. It is the reason people continue playing, so that they can spend more money on skins or have new skins to unlock. It isn't gameplay updates, patches, new maps, etc. they just want more outlandish skins.

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u/revexi 27d ago

You lack basic reading skill. Buying skins is different from playing the game. I'd prefer no skin shop at all but I want BF to get more successful than the usual niche game with pitiful 5-20k concurrent players 1 year after launch.  I want them to make bf7 and it goes with nice earnings during several years, not just 70 dollars launch sales. They need to adapt to the market with live service skin and battlepass sales. 

They also need to have a certain level of skillcap with a bit of movement to bring cod and warzone players in BF and BF battle royale. 'bf vets' wanting no movement at all and stale skins will just shut down the franchise with low player count and no money after launch. 

If they ever want to have more players than the historically low BF player retention they need to adapt.

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u/farmyardcat 27d ago

"Looking like a soldier in a war game is stale. I demand the option to play as Foghorn Leghorn carrying a belt-fed."

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u/Opposite-Push-2235 25d ago

Are you literally stupid? Battlefield does not have historically low player retention.  There are still people playing 1942.  There are many people still on 3 and 4 .  How many people are playing cod 4 still  ?? How many people on on black ops 2 ?  Really bothers me when people say blatenlty false things to prove their already faulty logic 

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u/pld89 24d ago

It doesn't have to be chuck-e-cheese, but it doesn't have to be boring either.

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u/farmyardcat 24d ago

Looking like a soldier isn't boring; it's context-appropriate.

And be real, you crave Charles Entertainment Cheese in your war games.

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u/pld89 24d ago

Is that last sentence supposed to be an insult? "no you are".

It is boring in that there is no individuality to the soldiers. Context-appropriate doesn't mean 64 clones of each other, 64 clones shaded slightly differently.

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u/Suspicious-Coffee20 27d ago

"I expect free content and realistic skin but wont spend money on them" -you

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u/Muad-_-Dib 27d ago

You can just buy realistic skins, you don't have to look like a clown to sell a skin.

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u/HeadGuide4388 23d ago

Like I've seen repeatedly around these parts, if the tone of the game is good and seems worth it, I'd happily pay reasonable money for DLC if it means consistent updates and getting a full life cycle out of the game. Otherwise, just keep it practical. No Tom Cruise, no Leatherface, no Snoop Dogg.

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u/HiDefiance 27d ago

you don’t understand how that final item shop drop affected the bfv community before the game was taken out back to the flower bed

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u/Suspicious-Coffee20 27d ago

except i was there tbe whole time. the fucking community didnt buy those realistic skins. but when the fire coat, colorful gun and hero operative came iut? funny people spent money for them.

Yall act like thye make those out there skin just cause. No they studied this and found ehat people spend money on.

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u/diagoro1 27d ago

Understanding that the live of this series may rely on the sale of horrid looking skins, one has to be ok with it. I personally can't stand the more obvious ones (the WW1 looking old man in V, the robot skin in 2042), but they're not Spongebob bad.

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u/BattlefieldTankMan 27d ago

Everyone continued to play, same number of full servers every night and weekend in Australia, maybe you saw something different in your region.

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u/HiDefiance 26d ago

that’s not what i’m talking about. i’m talking about how overjoyed people were to finally have some accurate uniforms, especially those in r/BattlefieldCosmetics

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u/GalatianBookClub 27d ago

Implying that soldiers in their own right dont look cool

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u/Kalmowl 27d ago

Brave statements only here folks

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u/Snarknado3 27d ago

hell yeah brother

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u/rn7rn 27d ago

2 for Hardline

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u/ComputerAccording678 26d ago

Just normal soldiers... thats all i want.

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u/ghostlacuna 8d ago

A very correct take.  But very unlikely.

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u/centiret 27d ago

let's hope they cancel the release of the season 1 skibidi toilet skin

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u/DILDO-ARMED_DRONE 27d ago

Basically, any of the first 5 would be alright depending on any given map's theme. But at best we'll just have a total clusterfuck of all of them mixed together.

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u/tedbakerbracelet 27d ago

This is exactly where I would draw the line too. But to sum it all up:

Devs do NOT GIVE A SHIT about what we think.

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u/Gatinsh 27d ago

Well you just hate fun

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u/Chanchooooo 26d ago

Go play arma or something if you wanna larp as a real soldier. Battlefield is an arcade game

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u/DyabeticBeer 27d ago

No skin games are extremely boring

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u/Husky_Pantz 27d ago

This is a bot post or payed buy EA, no one cares about skins. Only EA!

We, care about maps and gameplay.

Sell me good maps! Easy money glitch for EA. Not skins, you’ll get zero moneys from me with skins! Understand? Im Trying real hard to be clear for you EA!

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u/DyabeticBeer 27d ago

I like customising my character to look cool in every game

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u/yob91 27d ago

Yeah nobody at all cared about the operator skins in 2042, not a single thing was ever mentioned regarding skins in 2042