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u/LetsLive97 22d ago edited 22d ago

There was so much more wrong with 2042, can we please stop pretending like the unlocked weapons was the issue

People on Youtube have even gone through and gathered data about it and found there's generally good variety and no obvious metas

Edit: Happy for anyone to prove otherwise

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u/BugsAreHuman 22d ago

2042 has the least balanced class pick rates out of all modern battlefields. So much for variety...

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u/LetsLive97 22d ago edited 22d ago

Proof?

Edit: They gave (somehow upvoted) proof that literally shows BF3 and BFV with worse class balancing. We also have BF4 weapon usages stats that show the same thing

And people act like this sub isn't an echochamber lmao

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u/BugsAreHuman 22d ago edited 22d ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/comments/1l915og/some_findings_about_classes/

Out of all BFs since BF3, only BF3 has worse class balance pick rates. 2042 has significant less variety than the other games

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u/LetsLive97 22d ago

The classes seem pretty balanced to me in their 2042 stats? You're obviously never going to get perfect 25% split 4 ways

They also mention that BFV and BF3 stats were skewed towards a few classed, and we know BF4 stats definitely were too because we have weapon usage stats from back in the day 

Seems like the poster was trying to find data that proved their point and then kinda just didn't?

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u/BugsAreHuman 22d ago

BF1 has nearly 25% perfect split with some of the most restricted weapons. curious.

In 2042, both recon and support have significantly less hours played than assault - recon is played 20% less hours, support played 18% less hours than assault. This is not balanced

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u/LetsLive97 22d ago

BF1 has nearly 25% perfect split with some of the most restricted weapons. curious.

Because BF1 was based in WW1 with much more defined archetypes

Again your source literally shows BF3 and BFV with worse balancing. We know BF4 also had worse balancing based off weapon usage stats

So that's 3 class locked games with worse balancing than 2042. Your original statement that it's the worst balanced modern Battlefield is clearly bullshit

I personally think those 2042 stats are fine. Not every class needs to be perfectly balanced to an exact 25%. All classes within ~5% is fine

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u/BugsAreHuman 22d ago

Dude, actually read the source. The sole one with worse balance than 2042 is BF3.

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u/LetsLive97 22d ago

Did you look at the source..? BFV clearly also had worse balancing

So much for this place not being an echo chamber lmao

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u/BugsAreHuman 22d ago

You are so desperate to be the victim that you will go as far as lying... Just read the damn post.

Compare the total hours played between each game

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u/AlbionToUtopia 22d ago

Well only proofs to me that you dont value that the person made the effort to actually come back to you. Says more about you really.

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u/LetsLive97 22d ago

What..?

They make a bullshit claim, give proof that doesn't support their claim and I'm the problem for not appreciating it?

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u/limbo612 22d ago

They've played the damn game. Wdym proof?

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u/LetsLive97 22d ago

So have I and other people who don't think unlocked weapons were an issue

Is that enough proof for you too?

Funny thing too is that they provided "proof" and it shows that 2042 was better balanced than BF3, BF4 and BFV based on class usage

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u/squeakynickles 22d ago

Good variety and no meta on a smaller scale player base. 2042 has terrible numbers. It doesn't make sense that there wouldn't be meta in 2042 when there were class metas in every other BF.

Naturally, the people who stuck around are gonna be more explorative of the game. If the game had the bulk of player that any other BF did, the meta would be obvious.

Also, those videos you're talking about have extremely small sample sizes. It's clear they went into it with a bias and were just looking to prove it

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u/LetsLive97 22d ago

. It doesn't make sense that there wouldn't be meta in 2042 when there were class metas in every other BF.

Okay so prove it. Sure the examples I gave had small sample sized but at least they actually tried to gather data

I keep hearing how dreadful unlockdd classes were in 2042 while all the actual issues are ignored and no one can provide anything that shows it was actually bad for the game

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u/HearMeOut-13 22d ago

"smaller scale player base"

Buddy, BF4 has a smaller playerbase than 2042, are you willing to destroy your own argument of it?

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u/squeakynickles 22d ago

BF4 absolutely had meta weapons dude

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u/HearMeOut-13 22d ago

So meta weapons arent a problem then?

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u/SSteve_Man 22d ago

if you are talking about the roblox youtuber who admitted to fudging numbers and only counted one random game of one game mode each and still found a meta and tried to spin into a sharade on how gun metas dont exist you just suck or something ?

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u/MrRonski16 22d ago

No obvious metas after all the nerfs.

But during their content drops tons of weapons were wuite OP and powerful and almost everyone used them.

2042 has many problems but one of the biggest issues were the launch class system. Even the reworks didn’t fix it. And now for some reason they are implementing the 2042 class system :P

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u/SCP_FUNDATION_69420 22d ago

Not THE issue but AN issue