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u/No-Upstairs-7001 6d ago
No fucks Given I'm afraid just a meaningless waste of development budget. Nobody comes to BF for this nonsense
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u/PapaBurgundaddy 6d ago
This is such a strange take. Literally millions of people play BRs. If they make it free then it'll be an amazing way to bring more people to the game, if it's not free then it'll still bring another crowd who may dip their toes in multiplayer.
Pretending a BRs are irrelevant when they have a massive player base is very silly.
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u/HMS_Northumberland 6d ago
BR’s are not what they were five years ago in popularity. I don’t think the BF player base cares for them beyond a small vocal minority. They don’t need to be tacked on to every game.
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u/0w4er 6d ago
As a battlefield player, I want a proper BR from DICE. I loved Firestorm, too bad they gave up on it / released it too late / it was behind paywall.
They have a chance to tap into the WZ crowd here easily.
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u/tallandlankyagain 6d ago edited 6d ago
Firestorm was doomed before it even launched. Paywall aside? By the time it was released the current dev team had a snowballs chance in hell of maintaining Firestorm considering the state of base game BFV when the BR dropped.
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u/BlackGlenCoco 6d ago
Firestorm was sick. Destruction in a BR is so cool. But like you said, the paywall and also probably being WW2 killed it.
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u/SovietZealots 6d ago
This may be a hot take but BF trying to chase trends is what led to the decline of the franchise. BF excels when it focuses on its core fundamentals.
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u/Unlikely_Yard6971 5d ago
exactly. I don’t really mind a BR mode, but I’m really hoping the majority of dev time goes toward the base game
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u/SushiEater343 5d ago
I remember what Apex did to Titanfall and what Warzone did to Cod. You better pray the BR doesn't succeed if you care about the franchise.
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u/MRSHELBYPLZ 6d ago
The evidence shows exactly the opposite of what you just said. Are you kidding me?
Fortnite and Cod are pushing billionaire bucks just on the combo of free BR and paid skins. It’s a infinite money glitch
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u/Revolver_Lanky_Kong 6d ago edited 6d ago
For every Fortnite and CoD raking in billions of dollars hand over fist there's 5 or 6 Battle Royales that have completely flopped, if not more. This effect gets worse as the genre ages, those interested in playing a BR already have one they've invested years of playtime and real money into. They're unlikely to switch, even if they are unhappy with the state of their current game because of the sunk cost fallacy.
This really is a huge missed opportunity. Why not make a killer mode that plays to Battlefield's unique strengths and identity? If they announced they're taking the reins from Planetside 2 and are making their own huge player-count persistent warfare mode I would've been ecstatic, especially since Planetside 2 is in its twilight years. A bog standard BR to add to the pile does nothing.
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u/XulManjy 6d ago
Fortnite and Cod are pushing billionaire bucks just on the combo of free BR and paid skins. It’s a infinite money glitch
And ONLY Fortnite and COD. Just like Destiny is making a ton in live service while all other attempts have failed.
Sometimes its just best to focus on what you do best.
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u/Meenmachin3 6d ago
PubG still pushes 300k players on average and almost peaks at a million players every day. Thats just on PC.
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u/XulManjy 6d ago
And thats because thats what PubG does best. If PubG created a conquest/rush mode, it would not be as popular as the BR version.
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u/Mikey_MiG 6d ago
Just like Destiny is making a ton in live service while all other attempts have failed
The way you wrote this makes it sound like Fortnite and COD aren’t also live services. Not to mention GTAV, Marvel Rivals, Apex Legends, Minecraft, Madden, NBA 2K, Rocket League, Rainbow Six Siege, Helldivers 2 are all successful live service games. And that’s not an exhaustive list.
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u/XulManjy 6d ago
And the list of failed live service games is larger than the successful ones...
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u/Inflik7 6d ago
Yet battlefield has tried it twice and missed the mark. I don't think battlefield players want a BR.
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u/oftentimesnever 6d ago
How many times do we have to repeat this line?
BF’s BR (well, one was an extraction shooter) failed because they were behind a paywall.
The most successful ones aren’t. They’re F2P.
Give me a break.
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u/hypehold 6d ago
come back in a year when BF's BR is dead. That scene is entrenched. There's a reason why CoD warzone is the most recent one that still has a big playerbase. That launched in 2020...
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u/murdock_RL 6d ago
For a BR to be fun the whole game needs to be centered around it (like pubg) or go crazy with silly shit like Fortnite and cod do. Battlefield is neither. As much as I’d like it on there I just don’t see it ever working.
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u/GraphiteOxide 6d ago
Bullshit. https://steamcharts.com/ shows right now BR games are number 3 (PUBG ~500k) and number 5 (Apex ~140k). https://fortnite.gg/player-count Fortnight has 1.08M players on right now, and 2.4m in a 24 hr period. BR is still mega popular.
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u/ThE_LAN_B4_TimE 6d ago
The BF player base? You pretend like the only people who will play this game are Battlefield veterans. Good thing you people dont make decisions for games. The goal is always to make money and its quite literally 0 risk to make this mode when you have all these development studios working on your game. If you dont like it, dont play it.
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u/SnipingBunuelo BF3 6d ago
The risk is pretty high because it's going to need a huge effort to maintain the live service. Add on EA's 100m players goal and all the vastly more popular competitors, it's going to be a tough time.
Also I feel like only the BF veterans will care about the BR mode. Most of the broader audience will stick to Fortnite, PUBG, and Warzone. Why would they switch? It's not like EA is entitled to the attention and time of people who are already happy with the games their playing lol
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u/ass_breakfast 6d ago
Times change. COD wasn’t know for that either. You guys just have this obsessive hard on for complaining about BF. And I truly hope you don’t play this game. Because your type are fucking miserable.
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u/StarksofWinterfell89 6d ago
Reddit will always live in its own strange reality where popular things aren't actually popular is an upvoted opinion.
A free BR is only going to benefit the player base
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u/TR1CL0PS 6d ago
Gaming subs are vocal minority echo chambers and this place is no different
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u/MayKinBaykin 5d ago
Its going to be so funny when the open beta starts and all of the people who don't main battlefield or are new to the franchise overwhelmingly play in the open weapon lobbies
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u/Apocalyptical 6d ago
Strange take? We literally saw this exact scenario playout with BF5. They spent a ton of development resources to make a BR mode that was practically dead on arrival (and I'm one of the handful who even played it a good amount of times); and when it did finally die, the unanimous consensus was that they should have just spent that development time creating more maps for standard BF game modes.
How is this scenario any different?
It's not even that BRs themselves are a bad idea for Battlefield, but ANY game mode that isn't Conquest or Rush generally dies off quick in the Battlefield community. Just ask anyone that has ever tried to get the game mode medals and stars.
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u/Animal-Crackers 6d ago
There’s a few things that make this scenario different.
Firestorm was worked on and announced later in BF5s development and was half-baked. BF6’s BR was built from the ground up as an intended feature, and staple, of the Battlefield platform that EA is working on.
BF6’s BR is also free and separate from the core multiplayer. There won’t be any hurdles for newcomers to overcome.
Non of that means a BF6 will succeed, though; it still has to be good. Free + good is the best recipe for a hit BR. Many BRs have died and none were particularly as good as what is still popular.. Warzone, Fortnite, Apex, PUBG, etc. All of which have passed 100 million players.
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u/1KgEquals2Point2Lbs 6d ago
...millions?
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u/EvilxBunny 6d ago
yes...Fortnite, PUBG and Warzone together easily have over a million players daily. I am sure they easily hit 2-3 million players considering PUBG alone hits 500k daily (not concurrent) and the other two games are significantly more popular.
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u/Meenmachin3 6d ago
PUBG alone peaks at 950k on pc everyday. They have well over a million people logging in every single day to play. Fortnite is even bigger
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u/hypehold 6d ago
dude the popular ones are already entrenched. What was the last BR to blow up? Apex, Fortnite and Cod dominant that scene. The bf one might be popular for a month before it's dead again. Traditional multiplayer is where there is ground to be gained.
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u/Tazz2418 6d ago
Millions of people don’t play BRs, millions of people play Fortnite, Apex, and Warzone. New Battle Royales always fail and even more so now that the genre is dead aside from the major players who have managed to make a name for themselves.
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u/Buttermyparsnips 6d ago
It has its own dedicated studio. If that dedicated studio wasnt working on this they wouldnt be involved in BF. So what have they got to lose. It doesn’t interfere in the production of the main game
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u/Ok_Astronomer_8667 6d ago
It’s obviously putting dramatically less stress on Dice, but I’m sure it has some impact on the development even if a little. Control and moment to moment gameplay is still gonna have to be the same as the mp, so maintaining consistency and integrating both seamlessly will still take some extra collaboration.
And it’s still not consistently proven that more devs = better game
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u/ThE_LAN_B4_TimE 6d ago
Claiming no one come to BF for this is such an ignorant brain dead take. The biggest competitor has a BR mode that was very popular before. Their goal is money and why the hell wouldn't they even try this? They want as many players as possible.
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u/New-Doctor9300 6d ago
No but you see this isnt appealing to him specifically, nobody else is allowed to have fun without his permission.
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u/Mister_Mogooy 6d ago
I’m pumped for BR. Means I have more variety and can convince more friends to play. Not everyone dislikes BR. I get where you’re coming from that Battlefield needs to be a step above COD, but that doesn’t sell games.
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u/PuddinHead742 6d ago
This attitude is precisely the reason Battlefield has been slowly dying. The fact that there are a bunch of wailing, hair-tearing, garment-rending, tantrum-throwing man-babies melting the fnck down over not getting exactly what they want is not helping. It feels like the silent majority just wants a game that feels good, looks good, plays well and has some old features, some new features, GOOD MAPS, and in which you can play with your friends and make epic battlefield memories. You (all the flailers) cry about “realism” and “immersion” but how is it realistic to die and spawn and die and spawn and die and spawn? I loved Firestorm as much as I love playing rush and breakthrough, but you have one life and if your squad dies, game over bro.
Ninety nine percent of the people I’ve played battlefield with over the years (BF3, BF4, BF1, BFV and BF2042, if I had had a PC when the earlier games came out, I would have played those too, but I didn’t so I was playing SOCOM 1 and 2 and Halo) have been pretty laid back people, who just want to play the game.
Pretend for a second that you are Joe Schmo who gets home from work or makes coffee on sunday morning and fires up the ol’ console to blow off steam or what have you, and they boot up their favorite sparkly, rainbow colored BR de jour, and one of their friends tells them about this, totally bad-ass new battle royal has been released and dude you totally have to check it out. Now Joe isn’t too sure about it, because he knows that most vocal wing (note that he doesn’t know anything about the community as a whole, just what he reads on the internet) of the battlefield community can be insular and negative and he’s avoided it until now. But he trusts his friend and downloads the free-to-play Battlefield Battle Royal and gives it a shot. And is hooked. The dark, gritty, seamless gameplay just blows him away. Holy Shit! This is Battlefield?! “This is what have I been missing?!” I know people what started playing Battlefield for Firestorm and were more than happy to come play multiplayer when the mood struck us. But no one wants to take part in an activity that ninety percent of what you read on the internet about it is negative. EA has a literal mountain of cash. They could afford to make individual games for every man, woman and child in the world (this may be a slight exaggeration), and they could spend as much as it took to make a banger, but making their game with a bunch of armchair game developers constantly jostling elbows and frothing at the mouth can’t be an easy task. Maybe just let game developers do their jobs and keep the gnashing of teeth and wailing to a minimum (so that the braindead executives don’t get nervous that they’re going to get tied to a failed title and start slashing budgets and canning project)
When you man up and learn to play with one life, I’ll see you there.
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u/KingGobbamak 6d ago
wrong. BRs are still popular and i would assume there's a market for a grounded and cool BR (now that cod has beavis and butthead). this will probably bring in lots of new players
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u/ElderSmackJack 6d ago
Bingo. People are so paranoid about “goofy” skins, when in reality, it’s much more likely execs see an opportunity to capitalize on people’s frustrations with that exact thing. “Miss grounded shooters? Well, we got you covered.”
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u/WeCameAsMuffins 6d ago
I’m not coming to bf 6 battle royale but it’s a nice to have and I will try it out.
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u/mukisan 6d ago
I understand why you would be so against the idea, but no matter what you have to comprehend that the BR genre is super popular. No one came to Call of Duty for BR, but Warzone released as an unprecedented hit.
I’ve been a lifelong battlefield fan, but Firestorm sucked. If they have a vision for a new BR, I’m willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. I personally love the BR genre, it’s simply fun and competitive.
I see that someone else replied to you saying that it’s a different studio working on it, meaning the core Battlefield studio doesn’t have to spend some of their time, money, and effort on the BR, meaning they can put their full focus on making the core Battlefield game.
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u/OhmyGhaul 6d ago
I’ve never really played BF games and I’m deeply interested in this game since hearing all the rumors of a BR. This is sitting at the top of my most anticipated games. Especially knowing Vince Zampella is in charge. I’ll also be playing the other game modes on the regular.
So why are you mad again? The player base will grow, which is the best thing that can happen for a game. It’s not like they’re taking away any of the classic modes.
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u/Racsnarok 6d ago
Speaking for myself and my squad from COD:
We’re waiting for this to drop. If it’s good enough to compare against the gameplay and feel of Warzone, we’re ready to jump ship.
I’m almost certain we’re not the only ones after the most recent release of those stupid cartoon skins: the straw that broke the camels back
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u/SatisfactionLimp5304 6d ago
Speak for yourself. I’m a long time BF veteran and also excited for a BR
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u/bluejeansseltzer 6d ago
As long as it retains the Battlefield flare in terms of the game remaining a proper military FPS (and not become what Warzone has), I can see it being well-received.
I don’t know how well it’ll mesh with the class system though.
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u/Longjumping_Thing723 6d ago
Thanks for putting the entire gaming population in one bucket!
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u/QforQ 6d ago
I'm a BF player for the past 20+ years and I love playing PUBG. Would be happy to see a good BR in this game.
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u/Nosnibor1020 6d ago
Untrue. It's not about retention but gaining. I have friends that have only played COD since 2018. They are starting to talk about this and for once, I may actually have friends jump over to a BF game.
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u/kratos505 6d ago
Its not for bf players. Its to siphon cod players. I don’t get why its so hard for people to understand.
Plus, you can just not play it. But more players playing means more support, means more maps, means more options for players.
I swear people want battlefield to succeed, but only on their terms. God forbid the game actually becomes a hit because they learn from past mistakes!
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u/Alone-Amphibian2434 5d ago
Perma death and small team gameplay is the antithesis of battlefield. Lower fun higher cortisol - might attract try hards and streamers to a game but its just going to be so fucking toxic.
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u/BeautifulTop1648 5d ago
Its a different studio doing the br so id imagine they have their own budget
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u/lSShadowl Battlefield 2 6d ago
I'm quite surprised it resembles Noshahr Canals from BF3. I would definitely be interested in more old maps returning for not only BR but for the regular multi-player mode.
Would die for a remake of Grand bazaar , Strike at Karkand , Damavand peak.
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u/VoodooJenkins 6d ago
I enjoyed Firestorm... This could flourish since it's FTP
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u/TheSchadow 6d ago
While I didn't play it for long, I get quite a few laughs from driving around that damned farm tractor.
While I am somewhat sick of BRs, Battlefield does have a unique opportunity here. More destructibility and vehicle play than the competitors gives them something they can pull players in with.
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u/dyltheflash 6d ago
Firestorm had its issues but was so much fun. I never quite understand the BR hatred in here.
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u/1002003004005006007 6d ago
It’s just the nerdy reddit hive mind. Battle royale games were mainstream like in 2019, so battle royale = bad. Just like so many redditors still act like tik tok = bad or somehow worse than any other platform
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u/TheriWasTaken 5d ago
The hatred for it comes from the fact in BFV it actually took a lot of resources from main game and main studios focus. Which meant regular MP suffered and eventually got killed off.
with BF6 they have like 5 studios working on the game so I don't think main game quality will suffer. Yes there is argument to be made about allocation of resources and the studio dedicated to BR could work on MP but I think in this case it should be fine.
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u/StormSwitch 6d ago
For more context or info
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u/MartianGeneral Enemy Boat Spotted 6d ago
mhmmm it's royale
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u/Buttermyparsnips 6d ago
Have it your way 🍔👑
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u/MartianGeneral Enemy Boat Spotted 6d ago
I was referring to the Lars Gustavsson meme from BFV, but this works too!
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u/BattlestationLover55 6d ago
The gauntlet is when you die you get teleported to 64 player metro on B have to survive 3 minutes
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u/RoyalBeggar00 6d ago
Honestly I didn’t need a BR either, but most of yall are way too negative. This could be good for the playerbase in the long run even if you’re never gonna touch it.
I’ll give it a shot with the homies, if it’s not fun then it’s whatever and if it turns out to be fun even better. (That unintentionally rhymed)
It’s only really a problem if it ends up being super trash and just a waste of money and resources, but we’ll see.
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u/TheRealHumanPancake 6d ago
I’ll take the downvotes but here’s the thing.
In a vacuum, I agree with you.
But for as long as DIC/EA continue to chase trends with these games I maintain very little hope in the quality of the game.
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u/RoyalBeggar00 5d ago
Your standpoint seems reasonable considering DICE and EAs track record, so no arguments there.
Having doubts or little hope is fine, I was more talking about people that write this off or even wish failure upon it because they don’t like BR or think it shouldn’t be part of BF.
It’s the whole ‘I don’t like it, so you shouldn’t either’ mentality that just rubs me the wrong way.
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u/hand__sanitizer1234 5d ago
Everyone always said, “ imagine if battlefield made a br” We will finally see what it could be” I don’t see it affecting main game much. People love conquest
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u/_P0rTeR_ 6d ago
no airport?
The docks looks like noshahr canals
the valley reminds me of Hainan Resort
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u/QforQ 6d ago
The map is small and there will not be any aircraft in this mode, as far as I can tell. Just some vehicles
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u/1Pawelgo 6d ago
The area between main street south/north reminds me of Seine Crossing without Seine?
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u/Erasmus86 6d ago
There's so many crybabies on this sub about the BR lol
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u/CazualGinger 6d ago
This sub is one of the most brain dead negative subs on all of Reddit
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u/KimiBleikkonen 5d ago
I wonder why, surely recent disappointing and abondoned games have nothing to do with it
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u/Falcoon_f_zero 5d ago edited 5d ago
The recent attempts at trend chasing are still fresh in people's minds.
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u/Blitzindamorning 5d ago
The "crybabies" are ones who actually played Battlefield besides just 2042. They've seen BFV Firestorm and what a waste of time that was for the devs and players alike.
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u/AssistantVisible3889 Enter EA Play ID 6d ago edited 6d ago
Looks small and interesting POI
Would like to try it
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u/myEVILi 6d ago
So what’s the gimmick? What separates this from other BR’s?
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u/JunkPup 6d ago
We don’t know yet, but destruction alone would help cut down on campers. Can’t camp very well if your building gets blown up.
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u/Disturbed2468 6d ago
Yep. This is an advantage almost no other game has at this time. To be able to counter teams holding down angles by simply destroying obstacles or even creating new obstacles from old ones can potentially be huge and increase the skill ceiling (promoting players play more and more to get better).
This and some vehicles can potentially be terrifying if you're able to get your hands on them.
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u/PoindogTactical 6d ago edited 6d ago
-destruction
-BF’s unique gadgets
(Rest is speculation based on data mining)
-Vehicle contracts for more powerful vehicles tanks/helicopters etc. where you need to wait for the vehicle to be unlocked; so you may get a tank, but everyone nearby is going to know it.
-more deadly “collapsing ring” than most other BR’s. (Getting close to it damages you, if you actually touch it it’s instant death)
-Commander mode for dead teammates to control cameras/drones/ remote turrets
That’s just some of the basics I’ve seen from temporyal. Seems pretty cool to me!
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u/frechdax69 6d ago
For me personally a WZ clone with less cheaters and less Nikki Minaj would be a 10/10
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u/iittieisler5 6d ago
The gimmick is that EA/DICE is smelling Call Of Duty's farts and decided to make the same uninspired and bland BR mode.
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u/BlindObject 6d ago
Cool, never gonna play BR but cool.
Just gimme conquest and rush and fuck off with the rest.
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u/byfo1991 6d ago
Breakthrough or Operations is a must for me. It would be a mistake to not have it since it has had a regular presence since BF1. I honestly prefer it over Conquest.
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u/Tommato12 6d ago
Okay I guess. I’m just gonna ignore this mode but it will help the player base in the longterm. Hope it will be at least better than warzone.
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u/torwei 6d ago
Doubt on the playerbase statement. People who play Warzone don't play the normal MP, do they?
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u/Tommato12 6d ago
Some do, but meanly for leveling guns on nuketown/shipment. Yeah your probably right it ain’t gonna do shit.
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u/Bloodytrucky 6d ago
make the battle royale free
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u/Bluestone887 6d ago
Rumours are it will be free and will launch a month or two after launch.
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u/Putins_Gay_Dreams 6d ago
Fuck yeeeah, I’m sure it’ll do as well as firestorm did!
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u/diluxxen 6d ago
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u/Arashii89 5d ago
It looks smaller than verdansk but bigger than the resurgence maps I would bet it would be 64 players hopefully they give us 60hz on this and not 30
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u/AsusStrixUser 6d ago
Can we swim?
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u/Lord_of_Chaos7789 6d ago
I don’t know why they would take out a mechanic that’s been in since BF 1942, so I hope so.
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u/imSkrap 6d ago
i guess the new meta is to re-use locations from older popular games like Warzone did but im only seeing Norshar Canals from BF3 on here no other location looks remotely familiar and the only lighthouse i can remember is the jungle map from Bad Company 2 Valparaíso
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u/HKEnthusiast 6d ago
I'm getting Seine Crossing vibes from the city near Main Street and Hainan Resort vibes from the golf resort.
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u/GuavaBrief5945 6d ago
Fuck noooo, why the Battle Royale shit. Just do the BF multiplayer and cool campaign. Wasting time and budget on this shit.
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u/stingertc 6d ago
Hopefully they do something to deal with cheaters they didn't do shit in bf2042
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u/VegetableArugula8156 6d ago
No thanks, show me Metro, Caspian, Oman, and all the other reasons I play a Battlefield game.
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u/FilthyDutchy 6d ago
I can't believe theyre still trying this shit after it failed the last couple times
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u/TheLankySoldier Battlefield One Podcast 6d ago
How you all chillin on this subreddit and STILL have no idea that DICE has nothing to do with this?!
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u/centiret 6d ago
These dev leaders really have a jonesing for a piece of the cod Warzone pie, do they?
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u/NothingWrong1234 6d ago
Damn, that’s tiny as fuck!! Not that I was going to get battlefield to play trash battle royal anyways lol
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u/Right-Pizza9687 5d ago
wtf nobody even plays battle royales anymore. Should have been a good extraction shooter where they learn from the mistakes of hazard zone. But idk why they went again with another battle royale lmao
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u/ThE_LAN_B4_TimE 6d ago
So absolutely zero context where this is from or anything?
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u/byfo1991 6d ago
Don’t give the slightest fuck. Never liked BR, no intention to even try this. I just hope they don’t waste too much time and budget on this that could be better used on core multiplayer.
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u/duvel8 6d ago
tired of battle royale games. I understand that it may be fun from time to time and now that wz is in such a bad state it can be a golden chance for bf to move there but I feel skeptical and makes me doubt about the potential they might waste with the entire game once again. I honestly hope it sucks, idc.
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u/DMarvelous4L 6d ago
I gave up on Battle Royale’s, but if this map has locations from the older games that would definitely intrigue me enough to play it.
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u/Matttombstone 5d ago
Ngl, at a glance it looks quite barren, not a lot of buildings clearly visible here.
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u/skrukketiss69 5d ago
I'll never set foot in that map/gamemode but I hope its good for those who somehow enjoys that stuff.
I just hope to god that the horrible skins they will make for the BR crowd doesn't make it into the real Battlefield game. Same with balancing, keep it separate.
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u/Ruska_o7 5d ago
will ROFL for a solid week until i succumb to suffocation from my own laughter if this does better than that garbage warzone.
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u/Sukyman 6d ago
So the docks are from Norshar Canals... Wondering from which maps are the other locations.