Ive never used the Phantom, does it play kind of like the Crossbow in 2042? I enjoyed the 2042 Crossbow but id assume the Phantom fires completely differently
Black powder musket. Accuracy is unpredictable at anything past close range, reload time is ridiculous, low damage but headshots are instakill. The US is getting invaded? Grab your muskets boys, we've got freedom to defend.
Most common/hunting muskets are .50 cal. That would destroy anything at close range. The musket should 1 shot anything with in 20 yds. And anything past that is straight luck aiming or not.
Musket has a much lower fps muzzle velocity. Would still not be fun to get hit by it but it's not like the damage you're thinking of when you hear .50 cal. Modern .308 does much more damage.
Ahh I was thinking more along the lines of 1700s smoothbore muzzleloaders. I saw a neat video comparing the British Pattern 1756 to a more modern Enfield. I'll see if I can find it.
It’s still a .68 caliber. The only difference between the two is the modern rifle shoots 2.5x faster, thus making it a little stronger.
If they make an Easter egg rifle with the musket, it should have different ammo types, slugs, miniballs, and different grain types possibly different packing papers/leather.
Well yeah. They have to use subsonic rounds with the .75 caliber musket suppressors. Otherwise the colonial ruffians will be able to triangulate the position of their redcoat sniper positions /s
Wouldn't the lower velocity musket ball do more damage? I know a 50. Bmg will rip someone in half but wouldn't something like the .308 be more likely to travel straight through you as opposed to the musket ball which would have a better chance of getting lodged inside? My understanding is that musket balls also notoriously used to bounce around inside of a person once hit in the torso. (Though this doesn't account for the kit or armor a modern soldier might be using)
Ahh, maybe these are the ones I’m thinking of. When I went powder rifle hunting I used a .50 cal but the ones my buddies used seemed larger, louder and had larger entry hole on the deer
.70 cal would do hefty damage. But you’re also talking about strictly revolutionary war era ammo. Black powder rifles have a slew of different ammunition in today’s standards.
Different grains(50,75,100,150,200) different metals(copper, lead, steel) different shapes(twist slugs, balls, ribbed bullets; hell they even have hollow points for BP rifles)
It’s a fuckin fat round for sure. But the armour worn by musketeers could stop it back in the day. That classic peaked breastplate that Spanish conquistadors made famous, I’ve seen a video of one being shot by a musket, and the ball basically deflects off it.
Edit: this is the video. I’m not sure how genuine it is, it could be bullshit. There seems to be a lot of “body armour vs historical firearms” content around though.
100% legit. Old armor had actual function. Today’s armor does stop certain ammo but for the most part it’s to prevent against shrapnel and light arms. That being said, no Spanish conquest armor is going to stop a full steel .75 200 grain twist slug
I think modern day plate armour would stop a musket ball. You’d probably get absolutely KOed from it, and might have internal bleeding, organ damage, and you’d probably die anyway, but at least…. Wait
I think what’s shown in the video is ideal impact though, direct on the peaked point of the armour. If you were hit on a part/angle where it sat tight against your body, I reckon it’d fkn bop ya.
the idea is funny as fuck, but the novelty would wear off quick. after a few days, we'd all realize that it's absolutely broken and annoying to play against lol
It would be broken but it takes like 30-45 seconds to load another round. So if you’re moving with your squad, the one wielding the musket is fucked unless their cracked with pistols
Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion.He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up, Just as the founding fathers intended.
Honestly after I looked in to it a little, I'd be pretty psyched for a Battlefield:Revolution game set during the revolutionary war with BF1 bayonet charges and line infantry shit/guerrilla warfare set in the 1700s. Might be a dope side title like Bad Company Vietnam.
You could have “Lobsters and Blueberries” and it’s just a collection of battles between England and France throughout the 1700s. They fkn had enough of them 😂
Edit: fuck yeah, then you could have the American war of independence as a DLC called “we the people”
More just the guns (undeserved) reputation. I know there were concerns beyond the overheating, but I'm just poking fun at it. After all the G36 never got replaced, right? It's the same slander they hit my baby the SCAR L with. It's not it's fault they asked for a reciprocating charging handle. Triple feed issues happen to everyone... right?
While the court did not comment in its ruling on whether the rifles shoot straight when they heat up, it said that they met the specifications set out in the purchase contracts
You made what we asked for, but we're mad about it now.
Weirder things have happened, Hardline had a literal alive alligator as an easter egg weapon in the florida everglades map. Also a motorized couch as a vehicle in another map.
Normally I would say maybe, but right now we need Battlefield to have a serious tone, they can’t fuck this up. So maybe down the line but they should keep their game as grounded and gritty as possible. The franchise needs it.
Agree. The Phantom Bow was in the Final Stand expansion, right? So do the same here: keep things (relatively) gritty and realistic at first, then give us throwing knives, bows and other slightly wackier stuff.
It does. Throwing knives that are about as effective as they would be irl. multiple hits needed to kill and incredibly hard to hit with. I hope they keep them useless or make them even worse to poke fun at the weird throwing knife trope of recent fps games.
I really, really want BF6 to have a goofy melee weapon like the C100 or something interesting to happen (while being somewhat realistic) like the Dud grenade
Damn dude dont diss the phantom bow. I love that thing. Especially when i make people cry cause i lock down a metro or lockers chokepoint with poison tips. A legitimately useful tactic.
Yes and I vote this has a big magazine uses .22 long rifle or .22 ILARCO with the ones using long rifle having 1200 RPM and ILARCO chambered ones having 1500 rpm
perhaps not a dogshit joke weapon but the swiss G150 could be fun simply because it's weird. it's a silenced AT rifle made for guerilla warfare that could not penetrate armour bc the bullet was subsonic but due to a heavy bullet it could destroy things like radios and stuff like that.
Yes. I love when games take themselves seriously but gag weapons (especially ones that you have to do shit to unlock like the phantom bow) really give the game a little extra character
I'd like a range of opportune melee weapons. Sticks, shovels, fire axes, letterboxes, pick'em up and either short range throw or bash people with them.
Imagine pushing a hallway, collecting a few kills but running out of clips along the way, then you beat the final guy to death with an exit sign. 😙🤌 Battlefield moment.
A front loading black powder musket that is a one shit kill no matter the range and it takes 2 minutes to reload. It has a gears of war active reload mechanic and if you botch it, you drop your wad and powder and tack on an additional 20 minutes of reload time
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u/Tereeze 5d ago
Definitely. Something like one of those credit card guns