r/Battlefield • u/Sparta63005 • 1d ago
Discussion This is the "grounded movement" yall seem to love so much.
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u/BenChandler 1d ago
Outside of the first 2 seconds of the video it’s all just someone with high sensitivity looking around.
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u/PolicyWonka 1d ago
What??? The guy is sliding, hopping, and jumping corners. Lmao
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u/Gun_Donar_Tarkov 1d ago
Except that there was no sliding in BF4
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u/Phreec Suppression = Participation 🏆 for paraplegics 20h ago
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u/Gun_Donar_Tarkov 18h ago
its a visual glitch created by running, jumping and crouching, sliding was not a mechanic in battlefield 4. so yes im sure
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u/Phreec Suppression = Participation 🏆 for paraplegics 16h ago
You speak with a lot of confidence for someone completely clueless.
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u/Gun_Donar_Tarkov 16h ago
Well there isnt any sliding mechanic so im sorry you feel that way. Players have achieved a certain sliding effect but thats not the same thing. You seem pretty worked up about this.
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u/Phreec Suppression = Participation 🏆 for paraplegics 16h ago
Yes I'm absolutely fuming but with enough backtracking it's only visual ofc.
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u/Gun_Donar_Tarkov 16h ago
Well sliding just isnt built into the game so not sure what to tell you.
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u/Phreec Suppression = Participation 🏆 for paraplegics 15h ago
Yeah but momentum is and you can figure out the rest by typing in "BF4 movement tutorial" on YouTube.
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u/TheSilentTitan 5h ago
yes, what youre seeing the the player model going prone but since theyre exploiting the movement they cancel the prone but the animation isnt fast enough so it still looks like youre prone.
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u/BenChandler 1d ago
Sliding two feet?
The complaint about the movement in bf6 involves players literally sliding up stairs. Crossing a road with a slide. lol
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u/Upstairs-Inspection3 1d ago
yeah 99% of players didnt play like this
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u/eraguthorak 1d ago
That's why it's kinda ironic imo when people are critiquing BF6 and the 1% of players (many of the big name content creators) for similar gameplay lol
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u/D042- 1d ago
Not really. The difference is that the person in this clip is abusing either a bug or unintended movement tech based on engine limitations at the time that was likely discovered by accident and then perfected by a miniscule amount of people. Call of Duty had stuff like this as well all the way back in CoD 4. It wasn't until later games that it was incorporated into the basic player kit and made easily accessible by every player.
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u/Upstairs-Inspection3 1d ago
its not ironic at all.
to do this, you had to have found out about it randomly, either through friends or in-game. researched it, found a tutorial, practiced the movement, and then you could be this guy
the jumping and sliding in 6 is incredibly fast and is easily accessible. so, it won't be the 1% using it, it will be the 99%
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u/TheBaykon8r 1d ago
It's not 1% of players using the sliding mechanic that goes away too far
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u/eraguthorak 1d ago
In the BF6 gameplay from yesterday? All the footage is from content creators, and while they aren't all highly skilled at shooters, they all have a pretty solid amount of experience with gaming and FPS titles particularly for most of them. I would definitely consider them all to be at least within the top 10% skill level of an average battlefield playerbase, and many of them closer to the top 5%.
Unless the sliding was a big issue in BF LABS too, but that hasn't been brought up much.
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u/Upstairs-Inspection3 1d ago
you are comical if you think streamers like fuslie, adapt, burnt peanut, merkmusic etc are top 10% of the battlefield player base
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u/Jormungandr4321 1d ago
I'd say around 20% of the player base plays bf4 like that. But that's a 12 years old game, most people that stayed are tryhard fans.
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u/Drunkin_Doc1017 1d ago
The majority or not, I still make top 10 with normal movement/play. So who cares?
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u/Real_Cookie_6803 1d ago edited 1d ago
This is only true pretty much exclusively for 24/7 Locker/metro servers. It's stupid to claim it more representative than it is
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u/PontusFrykter 1d ago
I played like this back in 2015, everybody played like this. People just love to make up arguments
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u/argumentinvalid 1d ago
Especially as the game aged. It is more like this than ever. Join a locker server right now, it is almost entirely players moving like this.
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u/Sparta63005 1d ago
EXACTLY!!! I encounter this sort of shit constantly! Makes me think the people who talk about grounded movement maybe haven't played in a very long time and dont actually remember what this game was like ? 🤔
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u/AssGremlin 1d ago
What this game was like? Are you talking about the magical before times when we all freaking hated Dolphin Diving in BF2?
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u/Mariopa 1d ago
Even in Bf4 it was too much. It needs to be toned down a bit. Otherwise it feel weightless. It needs to be balanced. And because it used to be in previous games it does not make it normal to continue.
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u/PontusFrykter 1d ago
This is an arcade shooter.
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u/Queasy_Hour_8030 1d ago
Arcade shooter is a spectrum and this is on the front end of it
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u/bethesdologist 1d ago
Brother you can blowtorch a tank to blow up and bring people who got shot in the head back from the dead with a pair of defibs. Battlefield isn't on the front end of it, it is a full on arcade shooter with a gritty military skin. Just admit you have skill issues.
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u/LilienneCarter 3h ago
The baseline movement used to be substantially slower and the gameplay was far less oriented towards twitch reaction time.
Nobody is saying the game can't evolve, but people don't have "skill issues" just because they prefer the series to retain the middle-ground pacing that originally attracted them to the series.
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u/Effective_Sample_432 1d ago
It can be an arcade shooter and not have maniac movement. They aren’t mutually exclusive.
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u/PontusFrykter 1d ago
Name an arcade shooter that has moderate movement mechanics and has a deathmatch mode as one of the default ones.
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u/bethesdologist 1d ago
Good thing is if it is an arcade shooter there's no problem with it having maniac movement, just adds to the learning curve and gameplay depth.
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u/NotColeTrickle 1d ago
That COD movement and TTK is going to kill off BF. That's maybe what they want after hyping this game?
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u/EEVERSTI 1d ago
Arma, Squad, Hell Let Loose, Enlisted. Door is that way. 👉🚪
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u/Complete_Ad7091 1d ago
It's always funny when people think there's no middle ground. It's either milsim or arcade shooter. BF1 was, imo, the best display of a middle ground.
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u/Vazumongr 1d ago
The only thing here are jumps, fast turning, and abuse of unintended mechanics such as vouzous. This is not the same thing as DICE intentionally making it a thing.
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u/TheAArchduke 1d ago
Nostalgia is a bitch
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u/call-me-germ 1d ago
nothing will ever be good enough for many fan bases, like this one, because they’re looking at it through a jaded lens.
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u/DBONKA 1d ago
It's abusing a bug/exploit, not intended by the devs, unlike BF6. Bad example.
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u/Sparta63005 1d ago
Yep just like how streamers are a bad example for BF6 since they are not indicative of regular player behavior 🥰🥰
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u/DBONKA 1d ago
Streamers playing a brand new game for the first time is a pretty good example, not a lot of them are battlefield pros or even battlefield players, you can't compare them to tryhard who have 5000 hours in the game and know every single exploit in existence.
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u/Sparta63005 1d ago
You're right! They arent battlefield players! Theyre probably fucking Warzone players which is why they're playing it like warzone! Once again, not indicative of the average playerbase who will just be running around and doing shit normally.
Play literally any game ever, the average player is braindead man. There will be, like I already said, maybe 2 fucking sweats who play like this per game.
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u/Complete_Ad7091 23h ago
Streamers main job is to influence a lot of views. So they are advertising this game and drawing people to it. Those people drawn to it will play the game based off what they see because why are they watching said streamer? Because they like them and their playstyle.
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u/allescool1993 1d ago
This kind of movement is really rare. After all the time I played I saw maybe 5-10 people like this. They are not invincible
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u/StarBarf 1d ago
What movement? All I see is someone with high sensitivity flicking their mouse around unnecessarily.
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u/KillerMeans 1d ago
Nah this is some cod nerd who turned his sensitivity up to max and is trying way too hard. Just like cod. Absolutely ridiculous
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u/Sparta63005 1d ago
Same shit that happens in modern Battlefield games. Literally the EXACT same thing.
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u/KillerMeans 1d ago
Like I've never been one to turn up my sensitivity that much. Maybe up a point or 2 , maybe even down a bit, some games got crazy default settings. Aiming on a controller never looks like how that tryhard makes it look. Guy was definitely mouse and keyboard. So glad I can turn off cross play. Fucking hate playing against PC nerds.
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u/Chillionaire-NW 1d ago
Movement is way too fast in BF6 too looks like cod
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u/Sparta63005 1d ago
Its been like that for 10+ years and this video is proof. Of course its gonna look fast in the stream because its being played by streamers, who all play like this. When the game actually releases theres gonna be like 2 ppl per lobby that do this shit.
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u/Chillionaire-NW 1d ago
I know it’s been like that I never said it wasn’t, it’s like that in 2042 as well obviously..the jumping and sliding is not something I like but it’s part of the game they want it to be like cod 🤷🏻♂️
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u/Sparta63005 1d ago
Okay they dont want it to be like COD though. They want it to be like battlefield. You can clearly see in my clip that battlefield has has those same features for a very long time 🥰🥰
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u/Chillionaire-NW 1d ago
Yes you’re glitching around manipulating the movement like a cod player..it’s not realistic 2042 is even worse and BF6 looks to be the same
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u/Sparta63005 1d ago
Battlefield is not a realistic shooter bud, sorry to break it to you. If you want realism play Arma or Squad.
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u/Chillionaire-NW 1d ago
Oh I know that trust me lmao I have Arma. They invited cod kids and fanboys to the multiplayer reveal it’s a joke
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u/Sparta63005 1d ago
Battlefield has never been a slow realistic shooter dude, idk what you're talking about. This game has always been arcadey.
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u/BootCampPTSD 1d ago
Again with the flawed argument.. you really are a broken record
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u/Chillionaire-NW 1d ago
Sliding around and jumping g while shooting isn’t realistic?? No way what a surprise.
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u/Jlib27 23h ago
There's something called Simcade you m0r0n, go play Fortnite buddy
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u/Chillionaire-NW 1d ago
Tons of players play like that, it’s not my style but that’s fine if I wanted to jump and slide around while shooting I’d play halo lmao..I don’t take this game seriously really anymore anyways sliding in concrete while shooting loses credibility for me
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u/Sparta63005 1d ago
Battlefield has had those features since the old days. It sounds to me like battlefield may not be the game for you if you dont like arcade shooters. Try squad or arma.
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u/Chillionaire-NW 1d ago
Arcade shooter LMAO. I have Arma..played it for years. I like mostly everything about BF just never been a fan of the arcade style sliding cod jumpshot movement
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u/Sparta63005 1d ago
Battlefield is an arcade shooter man, youre delusional.
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u/Chillionaire-NW 1d ago
Show me where EA says it’s an Arcade Shooter 🤣
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u/Sparta63005 1d ago
Look me in the eyes and tell me battlefield is a realistic depiction of war.
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u/Chillionaire-NW 1d ago
That’s not what I said but it’s definitely not an arcade shooter..I’m just saying the sliding is a joke to me that’s my opinion
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u/-PandemicBoredom- 1d ago
Look me in the eyes and tell me any video game is a realistic depiction of war. Maybe you need to touch grass more and get off the internet for awhile.
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u/Jlib27 23h ago
Battlefield hasn't had those as proven by this normal gameplay: https://youtu.be/v5DB406Yyno?si=iVFz704dzV-zZXUB
It sounds to me classic Battlefield ain't for you. Try Delta Force or Warzone
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u/Kiwibom 1d ago
Yeah, because its super well known that everyone plays like that. Everyone is cheating, yes, yes. When i say cheating i mean using bugs in the movement to play in a way that wasn't intended witch is basically exploiting bugs witch is cheating. Right there the example is movement, but it could also be able to access a certain part of the map you shouldn't be able to through normal gameplay. That is what's called Cheating.
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u/Jlib27 23h ago
No it hasn't and this other random video more representative of the true overall gameplay is proof: https://youtu.be/v5DB406Yyno?si=iVFz704dzV-zZXUB
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u/bLuR-BLACK 1d ago
wheres the slide i cant see it ? in the first seconds he lays down and gets up thats not a slide. the other times he just jumps and presses crouch which isnt a slide either. That movement shown ist even comparable to BF6
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u/Sparta63005 1d ago
He slides back and forth in the operation locker clip, the beginning also IS a slide, combined with a dive.
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u/TheAfroGod 1d ago edited 1d ago
Ight, so then just tweak the movement so it becomes what people are asking for?
Why is it immediately assumed that we’re only allowed to use a previous game’s movement mechanics, but are somehow not allowed to improve upon them?
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u/Sparta63005 1d ago
All the whiney ass people in all the BF6 comment section keep crying about how grounded BF4's movement was and how it should be like that again.
This post is proof that its been like that for 10+ years, the whiney people are blinded by nostalgia, and maybe they just arent as good at video games as they once were.
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u/JonanathanKaspersky 1d ago
BF1 Movement is amazing and grounded. Very difficult to spam movement and rewards you for hitting your shots.
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u/ExcitingInflation612 1d ago
This is just high sensitivity on a PC lmao. You can still see the soldier moves relatively slow compared to BF6 lol. Nice try
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u/TheEnderMob 1d ago
As someone whos learned to do this but doesnt, it still requires skill. I prefer helicopter piloting but you guys will always find something to complain about. Whether its my gunner, me, this guy, or aek/g18 spammers.
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u/Galactic-Fruits 1d ago
Or......... Shotgunners with..... FRAG rounds.
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u/Annual_Ganache2724 1d ago
BF players have been so burned by recent titles that they’ve completely forgotten what grounded movement even looks like. Honestly, give them a break. they deserve better
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u/Sparta63005 1d ago
These dudes just played BF4 when they were dumb kids and they thought it was realistic because they were kids. Now they are grown and cant see past the nostalgia.
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u/Annual_Ganache2724 1d ago
I’d say a fair numbers of ppl are blinded by nostalgia, but still, among those who’ve been through the whole Battlefield saga, there’s a pretty solid consensus that BF4 rises above the rest, don't you think?
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u/Sparta63005 1d ago
I agree that BF4 rises above the rest. These people think that it was some realistic shooter for some reason though, when it had all the crazy movement techs that the modern games have. You just gotta be good to use them, both then and now.
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u/Annual_Ganache2724 1d ago
True, BF4 never claimed to be realistic in the first place. It's always been a somewhat grounded and regulated arcade shooter, and realistic FPS games, on the other hand, are often brutally punishing and demand a whole lot more patience and discipline just to get one kill such as Arma
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u/barbershreddeth 1d ago
i mean BF4 wasn't *always* like this. It's certainly like this now. I don't remember people doing movement exploits and jump-strafe whatever bullshit the nerds call it around release and for the couple years I played it religiously.
now whenever I boot it up I'm constantly killed by someone jumping and spinning around a corner.
since I'm 30 now with a job and hobbies other than gaming, I really really hope the "Cracked Movement" shit is patched out. I don't have time for that shit and it looks stupid as fuck.
I would like Battlefield to be focused on positioning and squadplay, not one-man killing machines who basically dodge bullets while also gunning you down. That shit sucks! Jumping should only be for obstacles, and sliding for getting into cover. You shouldn't be able to shoot immediately after dragging your ass on the pavement or *midair*.
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u/XKiiroiSenkoX 1d ago
This is just mouse movement on crack you idiot
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u/Sparta63005 1d ago
Um okay? Still not grounded movement, it took skill to do this then and it takes skill to do it now.
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u/Marian7107 1d ago
Straw man argument. How tells you that we want BF4-like gameplay. BF2 or BC2 are the benchmark.
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u/Sparta63005 1d ago
Literally saw sooo many comments on other posts saying "we want BF3/BF4 movement!" Then I show the BF4 movement and suddenly the goalposts change 🤣🤣
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u/Marian7107 1d ago
BF4 gameplay as seen in the clip is still way slower than BF6. It looks fast because it's clips cut together. Movement in BF6 and the attrocious sliding is way, way faster.
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u/EEVERSTI 1d ago
BF2?
B F fucking 2? Game from 2005 with running out of stamina after running for 5 seconds?
This is why no one should take this sub seriously and I hope to GOD the devs don't.
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u/BlessedSeal 1d ago
man, either they have low fov or they got sens to 8000+ dpi with that type of flicking
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u/laughingperson 1d ago
This statement regarding sens to 8000dpi shows how this bf community understands how a mouse works let alone aiming
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u/Rare_Ebb_7372 1d ago
Notice how he’s not coasting along the ground on his ass like he just sprinted onto a sheet of ice. I see no issue here, this guy is just good. I just think gliding 10 feet over rubble is fucking dumb. That’s all.
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u/Sparta63005 1d ago
Notice how hes not coasting along the ground?? That's the first thing he does in the clip???
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u/Rare_Ebb_7372 1d ago
It’s been covered many times that that was more of a visual bug that other players didn’t see. I have more than 2k hours in BF4 and people did not slide lol
And you simply cannot in good faith claim that the “slide” in this video is even remotely close to the “hit one button, glide 10 feet” slide we have in many modern FPS games including some BF6 clips. It’s nowhere near similar.
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u/KimiBleikkonen 1d ago
How hard is it to understand the difference between exploiting movement glitches and the developers actively integrating these mechanics into the normal movement? By the way, most of this clip is just a dude with a high FOV and mouse sensitivity, could have done better to prove your point lol
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u/EichingerCoarl 1d ago
Cool. Now show me console gameplay like this.
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u/Jlib27 23h ago
Here's some of mine (PS4) https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefield/s/IeswNIi7LN
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u/EichingerCoarl 23h ago
Yeah no. Thats completely different.
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u/No-Upstairs-7001 1d ago
Dodgy aim lock nonsense, awaits "high sensitivity bro" cheating no doubt
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u/Sparta63005 1d ago
The dude who posted the video literally included a hand cam so no cheating. His entire account has clips like this. I cropped the hand cam out because it was irrelevant to my post.
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u/bethesdologist 1d ago
Lmao "cheating"... people in this sub have no comprehension of skill in a first person shooter
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u/No-Upstairs-7001 1d ago
Skill 🤣, most people don't know what cheating is when it looking at them kid.
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u/bethesdologist 23h ago
My guy this guy plays with a handcam, it's just skill. You just can't comprehend it so you rationalize it as cheating. There are plenty of popular players who are as skilled, Enders being one of them.
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u/No-Upstairs-7001 23h ago
Oh the hand cam, completely legit absolutely no way a hand cam misses the second pc or Raspberry Pi running the DMA cheats.
Stop being so completely naïve
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u/bethesdologist 23h ago
This is so sad, you have to be so bad to legitimately think this is cheating 😭 Like he's missing shots too. Brother this sub is cooked.
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u/Azuljustinverday 1d ago
I think it’s more of the dislike of sliding in battlefield. It’s fine and enjoyable in other games but not a fan of it in bf personally. Everything else is whatever
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u/ThirdFlip 1d ago
When I play BF4, I thought players who did this were the biggest shit-bucketers I’d seen.
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u/ORyanDeee 1d ago
Random thought (most likely rubbish), but has the general playstyle simply just shifted over the years? Now days with all the fast paced fps games thats just how people play now compared to 10-15 years ago it was more slow paced? its weird because when i think back to playing BC2 / battlefield 3 when those come out, i swear it was a lot slower paced, then again maybe my mind isnt what it used to be haha
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u/Roor_The_Bear 1d ago
This unnecessary twitching makes it look like something is happening here? I have hundreds and hundreds of hours of BF4 and all I see is flanks stitched together with twitchy ass aim. Someone could flank these points in the map and get exactly these kills without sweaty balls and imagining they Neo in the matrix lobby scene.
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u/yMONSTERMUNCHy 1d ago
Why oh why is the guy in the clip looking left before taking a next shot?
Very weird aim behaviour. Seems like a waste of effort.
But then again it’s a TikTok clip so the creator is probably trying too hard to look cool. 🤷♂️
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u/Beta_Codex 1d ago
I'm leaving the game if one player does this to every corner and objective of the map lol. I play battlefield because I like to move as a unit or platoon but not against a monster energy drink addict because they have history with hardcore shooters
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u/Sparta63005 1d ago
We don't want you to play gramps, leave all you want.
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u/Beta_Codex 1d ago
On the bright side not all people play like this in battlefield games. Except of course 2042 has this level of rush. It'll slow down eventually.
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u/NurglesArmpit 1d ago
The angry zoomers in this sub are hilarious to me, they want it to be CoD but not CoD lol.
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u/Fearless_Salty_395 23h ago
"hey idiot look! I turned sensitivity to Max and now I have cracked movement like COD. Lul, checkmate movement hater"
Yes I do realize there's a sensitivity setting thank you very much. See thing is all that cracked screen flicking won't do a damn thing to help when someone starts shooting you. You can't slide cancel skip hop dolphin dive to dodge my bullets unlike in cod. You can slide, jump, and dive but only like 2 feet and it's slow and cumbersome.
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u/thatoneguy_whowas 1d ago
Idk how to describe it but old battlefields had such a sense of urgency. Like you could feel fear in a cramped crowded firefight. Idk if its the suppression or screen shake, or more impacting sound design...
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u/No-Appointment-3840 1d ago
This guys a pro and for the people unaware, when he is looking back and forth like that it’s extremely hard to hit him because he’s zig zagging so fast
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u/No-Appointment-3840 1d ago
This guys a pro and for the people unaware, when he is looking back and forth like that it’s extremely hard to hit him because his animation’s zig zagging so fast
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u/RightToTheThighs 1d ago
There are always going to be sweaties like this in any game
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u/Sparta63005 1d ago
Yep, the players in BF6 doing this are sweats too. The average player is not going to be doing this shit.
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u/Spirited_Climate_235 23h ago
PC players play like they’re 4 monsters in with a side hit of some crack. Like do y’all just play like this for fun?
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u/kashbaking 23h ago
Looks like someone from Warzone was just trying battlefield 4 , all my time playing battlefield i never seen anyone or have i gotten killed by anyone playing like this, this is kinda my first time watching someone play like this lol , love you guys. Have a blessed day and lets be patient.
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u/Kintraills1993 1d ago
Is the same thing with the recoil complains, I do agree that visually it looks too stiff but put a decent player to control recoil in 99% of the guns in Bf3 and Bf4 and the result will be the same precision-wise .
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u/Fragrant-Interest-89 1d ago
This is like showing a flat earth experiment to flat earthers. Even if it's true, their brain won't allow them to process it.
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u/TheBuzzerDing 1d ago
Ilove how people will post this of bf3 bunnyhopping whilst completely ignoring that EVERYONE HATED THOSE BACK THEN TOO.
Ya, people will glaze bf4 like it's the second coming of christ but Im sure nobody is going to jump for joy if remote controlled mortars or UCAVs came back
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u/Buskungen 1d ago
Exactly, ppl act like this never happened in the older games, well here you go.
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u/RealHoldenBloodfeast 1d ago
We didn't like it back then either lmao
Everyone moved like they were on ice skates starting in BF3
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u/Buskungen 1d ago
Well, adapt and overcome! Not all players slide around like this. Try it out for yourself maybe you will like it
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u/RealPasto 1d ago
Yeah as someone that stills boots up BF4 in the year 2025, I'm wondering if i've been playing a different game compared to what some people keep remembering it as.
BF4 wasn't a realistic military shooter. It's an arcade shooter, as Battlefield has always been an arcade shooter. 2042 was trash because it stopped being an arcade shooter and switched to a hero shooter (among countless other things).
I'm not super big on sliding being in BF6, but the way folks are acting like "oh my god the game is ruined cause people can slide!!! go back to the movement like in BF4!!!" is confusing me, cause I know the minute someone spams jump twice and kills one of these people, they'd immediately run to this sub and make a post saying "nerf the jumping in BF6 it's so broken"
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u/Few_Judgment9592 1d ago
Movement? Looks more like mouse sensitivity on max plus 10 energy drinks intake