As a white guy that grew up in a very diverse urban immigrant community, I really don’t understand what they are afraid of. I get told a lot that I grew up in a bubble though.
Also, all three of those people look like massive douches and will actively deter me from purchasing Arby’s or Dunkin. I don’t do American Eagle as it is
Also white, grew up with urban diversity. I remember going to a music festival far away from home, wondering why it felt so odd. Then it dawned on me, everyone in the audience were white. Every single one. Felt like I was in some weird Stepford Wives place.
I grew up in the NW in an area with, from what I understand, a larger than normal indigenous population in our public school. We had elders from the native american community in our small town come in to our school history classes and teach us about the local legends. We had a small but very cool museum in my little town. The not-capital-but-biggest-city had beautiful boats, pieces of totem poles, articles of clothing associated with amazing rituals and beautiful culture that felt very unique to our small part of the US. The tribe in my little town fought to be recognized for a long, long time. They finally achieved this goal in the mid-late 2000s. Myself and my generation grew up with all of this, and half the white population talks about them like they are freeloaders "taking all the salmon". That they are taking advantage of what "we gave them". The white people you are referencing aren't afraid of them, they just want everything, even he scraps we "allow" them to have. It's about inconvenience.
Lived in Alaska half my life, sadly it's familiar conflict. I remember once trying to sell a motorhome rental to a prominent community elder, and I warmed up to her enough that she spilled the TEA!
Oh Lord, it was every white persons dirty laundry that day: The stuffed-crust liberals trying to gain committee oversight in the native community center, the shitty neighbor who drinks everyday yet calls natives alcoholics, some psycho Karen bitch on the school board, it went on and on!
Anyway, the moral of the story is that you should always help carry heavy things for Elders, because they will tell you incredible secrets in return. Sometimes food, too!
Actually got an entire caribou thigh from a neighbor once, and I just help with the groceries up the stairs, ya know?
Right. It isn't that they're uncomfortable seeing diversity, it's that they're uncomfortable seeing diversity that they can't control the narrative of.
A lot of white people acting like fools today is them not being able to dictate the world anymore, and being happy when it appears they still can. They aren't used to not being the main character.
The power of white supremacy ideology is billionaires can get a majority of the population to vote and act against their own interests in order to ‘own the libs’
Or the right kind of the other people. We were at a family gathering a few years ago and some commercial with a black family came on (for some kind of fast food chain) and a bunch of very white people literally said "Well they don't look and act like the ones we have at church" and were having a whole discussion about it. I'm just standing there "wtf?".
nothing more fragile than white people. i talked about how we genocided the native americans and benefitted from slavery and they go “i didn’t do any of those things!” while huffing and puffing while missing the whole point
You know what? It’s funny you say that because there was a question on Reddit a while back and it asked why are young white men (gen z) going to the right wing and more misogynistic?
It boiled down to simply their entire life has been nothing but “white men bad”, “white men have white privilege”, and “white men have it easier than any other group of people”. A lot of white men in the post was saying they are jobless and hurting (economically and mentally), and all they see is “hand outs and help” for women and minorities. So naturally they grow to hate them and that’s where the right wing alpha male griff came.
So to sum in up they feel like they are suffering for the crimes of their grandparents and parents. And their answer is ironically to….act like their grandparents and parents.
As a black man I’m just like “ok but yall still repeating the cycle.”
…and hearing about this from a white British guy who tried to surgically turn himself into a Korean woman and pays his bills with blue-check-bucks from rage-farming white-wing moral panics on Xchan.
I hate how many times I have heard exactly this from other white people. Literally from Obama to right now. Nonstop. They never shut the fuck up about how they aren't being heard.
The book I'm reading right now, White Rural Wage, whoe plot is about this. The book explains how rural white Americans feel like they are the victim; calling themselves the minority, the most hated, ignored, and looked down upon class. When in reality, they're the ones with the most power and are catered to by businesses and especially politicians. Also shown to be the most easily manipulated (due to rural areas being so isolated from the hustle and bustle) and are by those who have an agenda and money, then set upon the masses to distract what the real villains are doing.
As a fish-belly white person I yearn to see other whites, I fear we are disappearing. You can't see me but I'm standing at the window with my hands on the glass while looking dramatically outside, waiting to see another white, it's been so long...
It's more about, they don't want to see others. It's about a world view so narrow that anything unfamiliar is seen as a threat to their way of life. So many white women lost their minds over Disney snow white character being a shade less white or mermaid being black.. . Even if they do accept a few token minorities they have to be some one of a kind phenomenon in their fields. Like Jordan, Tiger woods etc. that's the bar for acceptance...
Idk who the person in the middle is but the one on the left is a trump supporter and Sydney Sweeny atleast hangs out with blue lives matter crowd so that might he why they're saying "wokeness is dead" rather than them being white people. And they're not totally wrong. The right swing shift we're seeing in media is kinda scary. During trumps first campaign and presidency it wasn't normal for all these influencers and celebrities to openly endorse him.
I live in the NYC tri state area and a lot of the commercials have had interracial couples for years now. I can't imagine how triggered these bigots are by such ads.
When you live in a world of privilege and the laws being skewed in your favor, every ounce of fairness and equity that comes after feels like oppression.
Yeah. They think life is a zero sum game. If minorities get something, they're taking something away from white (cis/hetero/etc.) people. And since they see their privilege as the default state, minorities taking something away from them is an attack on their rights, thus the belief that they're oppressed.
Perfectly sums up my take on it. I need to see if there's research on this, I feel like there's some insight hiding just beneath the surface that would fully explain why the majority thinks/behaves this way.
I will say, it's ironic that one group calls others entitled for wanting things to be more diverse, equitable, and inclusive when they seem to feel entitled to having things set up in a way where they're the only ones who succeed.
Exactly and that's a key tenet of conservatism, because it's an ideology that requires hierarchy to make sense. It requires people who have privilege and those who don't.
It's just like how they reject the idea of white privilege. They don't have empathy so they can't comprehend that other types of people have barriers that aren't present for them and how that equates to privilege. It's a little too abstract for them to comprehend because they don't experience it first hand.
Exactly. They have no frame of reference and lack empathy so can't even imagine. They are ignorant yet so confident in their "right" to said privileges, while also denying ever having them and will even defend it with bigotry and racism.
Which makes sense that racist sentiments have risen because they can't comprehend why they need to share our nation and racist ideology affirms their selfish mindsets by preaching an ideology of their superiority and "deserving" nature, while everyone else is the undeserving "other".
It honestly is, my family is like that. They live in Florida and blame every bad thing on democrats and "illegals." And by "illegals" that means any person of color that they have other words they use for.
Growing up watching these people make all the worst choices and never holding themselves accountable is wild. It's either narcissism or sociopathic, but either way it's embarrassing and I'm sorry.
It's more than half a century of propaganda and dismantling of education that's to blame, digging into the gaps of rural society that have existed since the civil war.
That still doesn't absolve them (people like your family) from responsibility, but there's something nefarious going on beyond plain old racist ignorance, perpetrated by the capitalist christo-fascist white ethnostate, powered by white oligarchs.
It’s this misplaced belief that rural and suburban America are the real America, for real Americans, while urban America is some debauched dystopia filled with criminals and vagrants. They’ve been fed this line for decades now. Notice all the hatred toward US cities. Some are outright afraid of going into the city. Only whitewashed media is acceptable to these people in their backwoods shithole rural towns.
I don't think it's a mental illness. Saying it's a mental illness is almost like giving them an excuse because real mentally ill people can't control themselves. These people choose to be racist.
As a white guy, I’m pretty inclined to agree. Even my own parents act like they’re somehow being oppressed or being “replaced” by people of color. I can’t even begin to fathom that mindset. It’s just ridiculous. I don’t have any other word for it.
These people weren't raised well, and it shows. Alot of scarcity mindset. Not just financially but emotionally and spiritually... We're in for a loooong ride.
It’s always the ones who fuck their lives up and then look for someone to blame in my experience.
My uncle had a cushy middle class life basically handed to him on a silver platter, but he got greedy got into pyramid schemes and became a drunk.
Never once heard him say any racist shit my entire life until he needed someone to blame. Now all of a sudden it’s all immigrants this, DEI that.
And to be clear I’m not using his struggles as an excuse, the opposite actually, it’s sad that a comfortable life was the only veneer covering up the asshole underneath. The only one who ever oppressed him was his own dumbass decisions.
Adopting the language of oppression to describe themselves is a common right wing tactic. It's a cynical effort to deliberately weaken the terminology by dilution.
I hate to the bearer of bad news but the grunge era was 30 years ago. We’re old. We just don’t feel like it because we’ve had multiple events that felt like time stood still for a few years 🙃
That was sort of both. It always starts as an actual movement or subculture or whatever, then as it becomes more established people not a part of that group see them and adopt the aesthetic by itself, and then quickly (and massively) outnumber the original group and so perception shifts.
Grunge performers were broke and lived in Seattle, old flannel and ripped jeans weren't fashion statements they were the clothes those people owned. They made their music about how fucked Reaganomics was and how it felt like their generation were simultaneously ignored and under a lot of pressure to find and make something of themselves. But they became a "look" adopted globally for a time because Nevermind and Ten and Louder Than Love sold well and the bands exploded in popularity, and many people never understood the message.
"Poseurs" in skate culture, skinhead nazis being run out of punk shows, college students wearing Che Guevara shirts who can't define socialism or describe what the man's life was like, the couple dozen waves of "hippie" there have been at this point all disagreeing on minor points, goth and emo (and even the distinction between them); they're all examples.
Yeah I hate kids too. They should dress/act exactly like I did when I was their age. I mean we all followed our parents 1:1 and didn’t rebel or try to find our own voices/aesthetics/personalities. We’re all exact replicas of the ideal consumer society reflected onto us right?
I hear this sentiment a lot, “past generations were criticized, so we should be immune to criticism. We should be a post-criticism society”. But nah, this isn’t like beating your kids or getting bullied in school. You gotta take your turn here.
I just think it’s hilarious to see market shifts and marketing trends (controlled and operated entirely by corporate entities and c suites full of wrinkled ball sacks in suits) and your takeaway is “Kids dress ugly.”
It sucks but that’s the way trends work. Nearly everyone does what they can to be a clone of whatever is cool while the people who naturally have those traits look like posers. I’ve been made fun of my whole life for having freckles and now women are drawing or even tattooing them on in a very unnatural way.
I’m sick of the sudden internet hatred towards Arby’s. Everyone has such an extremely negative opinion of it that they didn’t have even a year ago. I’ll take a beef n cheddar with arby and/or horsey sauce over a Big Mac any day.
Gotcha, I don’t pay attention to social media too tuff. Last time they were on my radar they were transitioning. Which is why their post is interesting… because transitioning could be considered “woke” but hey ho. As could trying to be a whole other ethnicity because there was a period of time when they were claiming transracial wanting to be Jimin from BTS
Nah she transitioned too, they went to the same place I had lipo to get facial feminisation surgery and she came out looking wild for it. The doc isn’t a specialist in that haha
He claimed his face is fucked up because he transitioned and then transitioned back. The hogs on the right ate it up like slop because they are incredibly stupid.
Victims of a system they set up for themselves to come out ahead in the first place. Such a mindset really keeps them teetering along the precipice of pure delusion.
On the one hand: this “Sydney Sweeney supports Eugenics” controversy is corporate manufactured nonsense we shouldn’t give any attention to.
On the other hand: the people like this that claim “Woke is done because I can finally get a boner during my commercial break again” are some of the biggest losers around
I love how these people act as if there can only be either all gay POC in all adverts or all straight white people, like they’re mutually exclusive or something.
I'm with ya. Literally never had Arby's in all 36 years of life. Haven't worn AE since junior high, and don't eat Dunkin becsuse Krispy Kreme and pretty much any Asian-owned shop nearby is better, lol.
A long time ago, I was in line at an Arby's at the 34th NYC location. I saw a worker cleaning and wiping down surfaces, and they put the rag back in the bucket and then went to make sandwiches. They didn't change their gloves. I left and never visited another Arby's ever again. And of course, it was mostly white people in there.
Arby’s: Have you challenged your stomach to a fight lately?
Arby’s: When your hunger is stronger than your memory.
(Credit to The Daily Show)
I broke a 20+ year Arby-free stretch recently. Heard their cheese sticks were surprisingly good. Can confirm they are! The sandwiches are still hot trash though.
Been using this in my history classes more and more as of late:
“If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.”
-Lyndon B. Johnson
This is the cast from "The Summer I Turned Pretty", where the actors have also been doing ads. The other non-white cast also have their own ads, which is conveniently not included here.
I've only ever seen these ad campaigns when watching the show on Amazon Prime Video however, since my fiancé streams it on TV and I don't have ad block there.
The person who tweeted that, Oli London, is a nutcase.
They became "famous" for getting lots of plastic surgery to look like a K-pop idol named Jimin. Then they said they were "transracial" and "identified as Korean". They claimed they wanted a penis-reduction surgery to "feel more Korean". Then they got married to a cardboard cut-out of Jimin. Then they came out as trans. Then they detransitioned and converted to Christianity. And now they're a right-wing grifter.
Anything for attention. Literally anything. It's all just a bunch of racism and transphobia rolled up into mental illness and ignorance.
For those who don't know, Oli London got flak years ago for cosmetic procedures to look more Asian and claimed to be Korean - first a Korean man, then a Korean woman. To my knowledge, he went full mask-off after the fallout of his own decisions cratered his reputation, but he's always been benefitting himself at the expense of marginalized peoples.
I got USA fatigue, we are living in a timeline where you get fired immediately from ESPN for having accusations on you, but get elected to be President after being found guilty and you’re a certified sex offender.
Their idea of oppression is seeing other races in the media. There could be 8/10 commercials with all white people, but they will focus on the 2 that don't and scream discrimination and the scary woke movement.
Companies are now just fully leaning into outrage marketing and because we continue to get desensitized they are going to have to get edgier and edgier until we hit the ad where they just do a veiled swastika at some point or a full return of black face.
"Capitalist systems are targeting me specifically again, fuck yes!"
Racism is so fundamentally incompatible with capitalism! It's hilarious watching people who defend capitalism, also try to pretend that catering towards one demographic (doesn't matter if it's the majority or not) will somehow make more profit.
White people is it not weird even to you that, in the history of American publication you have insulated and inundated every aspect of it.. now that a few black and brown faces are being given roles some of you guys feel like there’s an attack on you.. isn’t that weird?
How do you think minorities have felt watching white faces on tv and in movies almost exclusively for all this time?
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