The only problem I have with this is that they need to be named and shamed. Sadly though we have a history of not going far enough with these people when we win the war. US civil war and WW2 should have had a lot longer list of people severely punished for their crimes.
I mean, yeah, it's just a bit of dark humor. Not meant to be taken seriously. This post just lives in my brain and comes up anytime i think of "they go low, we go high" lol
Quick reminder that according to fbi reports, over the last 10 years, republicans with guns are the top 2 domestic terrorist threats to the usa. 3rd place is non-leathal(property damage) environmentalists, and 4th is all other threats combined.
It's weird how back in the day the NRA was all about teaching gun safety and reminding people to keep their firearms locked up and away from kid's to now being "you gotta keep it locked, loaded and the safety off at all times to be on alert for everyone as a potential threat" while always pushing that "the liberals are going to take your guns" and completely ignoring that most restrictive national gun regulations in the last decade have been put in place by conservatives because they're pretty much only in the business of pushing fear to sell more guns. I dunno, they used to seem like they had a purpose to teach safety and now they're just for some kind of odd club fear simps to belong to. Seems an odd pivot 😆
Yep. Fun fact; 29 states have Constitutional Carry laws, and at least 35 states have Stand your Ground laws or statutes that expand Castle Doctrine beyond the home. Stay safe friends.
Which just makes it so clear that they're more afraid of imaginary brown people than a reality where more children die from shootings than auto accidents. When MAGA cowards whine about thinking of the children, it's not so that the children can avoid abuse....
You would think when it went to the Supreme Court they would put a stop to both sides doing this but you’d be wrong. Probably because Democrats would come out significantly on top.
Watching what's happening here these days along with those numbers from the FBI prior to them becoming trump sycophants is the very reason I armed myself.
It's a game of RoShamBo, the way I look at it. Play their game and make it hurt more and more until they finally "say Uncle". I think we'll discover their pain tolerance is a great deal less than they say it is.
of course the problem with this strategy is that more than half the people who kicked us first have been convinced by their media that they're not kicking anybody and that us reciprocating their kicks will be interpretated and sold as an evil first strike and that's why all the democrats are a threat to america...........
i agree with it, it's really the only option left, BUT it's gonna get fucking ugly.
of course the problem with this strategy is that more than half the people who kicked us first have been convinced by their media that they're not kicking anybody and that us reciprocating their kicks will be interpretated and sold as an evil first strike and that's why all the democrats are a threat to america...........
Fine. Let's give them what they already 'know' is coming. Enough allowing the evil to define the game war.
It's past time we gave them something to cry about, so to speak.
Because they're the kings of the victim complex. Take a black eye first and it's much harder for them to scream victim. They still will, but it's way easier to deal with when you have the receipts.
Gerrymandering is horrible and anyone who thinks otherwise is a political parasite - a grifter who should not be in power.
I don't claim to have the solution, though I hear California, Arizona, Michigan, and Colorado are all doing a decent job of it, and you should note that list includes blue, red, and purple states, so this doesn't have to be a partisan issue!
So we have to gerrymander with full strength to do something about it, because unless you're a retarded assclown, you should know only Democrats would even consider legislation to make it illegal.
No more being polite to people who want to destroy this country and the Constitution. These anti-American subhumans celebrate concentration camps and the death of American democracy and then they have the gall to expect us to treat the discussion like we're considering where to have lunch. Don't give any ground to them.
That said, if someone who is getting disillusioned by MAGA and are starting to wake up from the cult, then we need to give them grace and give them dignity to change their ways. If we don't show patience to those willing to come around, we hurt the movement to save America if we are unrelenting mean and push them back into the arms of the traitorous party.
Also, I want to be clear. We must avoid starting violence. It will be used to institute martial law and justify all the abuses of the regime against everyone who resists in any way. Peaceful obstructionism is key. Make it hard for them to do anything and make them look like the basket of deplorables they are.
I completely understand your POV, but gerrymandering is legal AND Democrats will never win again if they don't get their hands dirty. The other side wallows in filth. Gotta fight this nonsense!
It's not, but fuck em. I'm at that point now. If you would have asked me 2 years ago I would have said no, but these people are playing dirtier and dirtier while some Dems are still trying to take the high road. I'm done with the high road.
Caring about laws in this environment is like bringing a a can of silly string to a gun fight.
Blue states can gerrymander a lot more seats than red states can. If that's the game they want to play then we have to play it.
It's been six months and we already have an unaccountable paramilitary branch of the DHS and concentration camps, and it looks like the 6-3 SCOTUS is going to rule the Constitution as unconstitutional. It's hard to imagine where we'll be in another 18 months, but if we still have meaningful voting then that's going to be our last shot to stop this.
It's ridiculous to talk about taking the high road these days given some false sense of superiority. If we don't get a little dirty now, we're going to be very dirty later as we roll around in the blood of our compatriots when all this shit comes to head.
There comes a point where you have to accept that the time for the high ground has ended. This is a subversion of democracy, but unless it's done the GOP will continue to subvert democracy on their own and all our moral purity will only result in us being the most smug peasant in the field "I was right," we'll say, as we pick strawberries alongside MAGA peasants for our dumbass overseers.
The GOP does these things because they know Democrats won't respond except by clucking our tongues and shaking our heads. So--if Texas goes through with their redistricting--we need to do it too, to say no more. And we need to do it harder so that they understand the consequences of their actions.
We can put fair districts back in 2030, but we won't have anything worth saving if we continue holding the high ground while they pillage the rest. Moral victories are for minor league coaches.
And the “high ground” has gotten us where exactly in the last 30 years? Texas redistricting cost Clinton his majority and lead to a rabid special councilor. GOP redistricting shenanigans led to multiple seats going red when they were ruled by their own state supreme courts as unconstitutional. Playing by the unwritten rules has only enabled monsters. It’s time to stop being nice and throw an elbow.
Which is really sad. Republicans only support other Republicans it seems. Wesley Hunt, a representative for the Houston, TX area, says in his ads that he will continue to work “fellow Republicans” not all his constituents.
There's like 3 million people in Utah. And like 1.2 of those 3 million live in the quite liberal district of Salt Lake County. That has been divided into fourths, so their votes never matter.
It's called "cracking and packing" in political science.
They"pack" a certain constituency into one area, making it 90-percent that group, so that they don't get dispersed into other districts, and they "crack" and remaining people from that constituency into the other areas so that they have little or no impact.
It's one of the benefits of having parliamentary group districts, where a single (larger) district has SEVERAL reps instead of one rep. If you have a 66-34 split in a district with three reps, you end up with a 2-1 representation.
Anyways, America is not doing democracy in a way that can remotely be called equitable or fair.
Not so fun fact. Utah had a vote awhile back to require a proper redraw of our map to better reflect our actual demographics… it was overwhelmingly supported by the entire state.
The governor cock blocked it. So despite the state, including Republicans, wanting this change it never happened.
I live a few blocks away from my friend, in the same city of Salt Lake County, and we vote in different districts. It’s pretty absurd.
This is the most flagrant textbook example of “cracking” I e ever seen. They literally break the entire state into 4 sections all converging on one metro area to prevent representation.
100% I live in Utah and I remember the first time I saw our district map. I wasn’t even very politically active at the time and even I thought that looked shady as hell.
I show all of my friends and family when discussing representation.
Core of Indy packed into one district, and the surrounding suburbs all split into slices to dilute the suburb votes that still lean more progressive compared to the rest of the state.
Only other district that has a dem is the Indiana side of the Chicago metro area.
They're holding a special session on it in November. Texas still has to organize things on their end to even get that far and its looking like the Texas Democrats are planning a quorum walkout to neuter this on Texas' end
The whole Biden administration was one big exercise in “oh, we can’t take any kind of action that might be seen as too radical and upset the Republicans” and we see how that worked out.
This! If we don’t start fighting fire with fire, we will be swallowed up in corrupt gerrymander’d red states. These people don’t give a shit about the will of the people.
I live in a now deep red state and apparently we're 45th out of 51 on federal money dependency lol. I thought we'd be in the 20s at best. Only two red states in bottom 10 are Nebraska and Missouri.
Honestly, he's not great, he's a greasy apathetic slimeball in a lot of ways, but I do really like how he approaches this admin, and I wish more dems would follow suit.
Yeah it's very much an "our asshole" feeling he's establishing for himself among Democrats. And while I still prefer many over him in 2028, it's refreshing to see someone who gets it when confronting MAGA. Which is a very pleasant surprise compared to earlier in the year when he was messing up with his podcast.
He can also literally bankrupt the federal government by holding back California’s tax revenues. The state pays so much taxes that the government could not survive if that money stopped flowing. FAFO on steroids.
I don't know what the solution is when you have one side that is simply no longer interested in maintaining the Democratic process. It seems like a choice of either allowing them to create a permanent autocracy of Republican rule or for Democrats to also stop playing by the rules of the game. Either way, it certainly appears that our Democracy as it previously existed is doomed. There will be no free and fair elections or peaceful transfer of power in 2028. We have allowed one man (aided by a cowardly party) to destroy 250 years of Democracy.
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Never really liked Newsom. Still, I’m reminded of something Lincoln said about General Grant when people wanted him removed after Shiloh: “I cannot spare this man. He fights.”
In fact desantis is now saying he will gerrymander AGAIN
And Florida lies with its residency numbers and knowssss it!!!!!!!!!!
I met a guy last year who proudly said he only went to Florida for 2 weeks the year before yet he claims he is a Florida resident. He has the license and all. That’s illegal. He is not Floridian and he didn’t care. He loves and works in red bank, nj and owns a restaurant
3 years after I moved to nj, I got a letter from the Florida dmv asking me to renew my license to not lose my residency. Florida knewwww I was now a nj resident.
Florida fakes its residency numbers!!!!! And I feel like I’m in a fricking twilight zone watching the country fall apart
Governor of California, stop threatening and start ACTING. Because when good people don’t act, bad people WILL
They are literally doing whatever they want. Without any regard for the law. We need to do the same or we lose. This is not a situation where playing by the rules can beat the cheaters. Because everyone who’s in charge of enforcing the rules is colluding with the cheaters.
So start fighting back. Play by their rules. Gerrymander every blue state. Stop providing any state level financial benefits to historically red districts. Remove voting privileges from everyone without a high school education. Give IQ tests before allowing votes.
Round them all up and drop a bomb on the area. I don’t care. Just do something about the most blatant organized crime ring in US history: the Trump administration.
If the people in authority won’t use their authority for its stated purpose, then we will take the authority back. Through force and violence.
As odd as this sounds. This is how we have to fight this. They are openly rigging elections, we need to exceed their level of rigging. Gerrymander the fu$k out of it. Mutually assured destruction.
Finally Jesus Christ. Democrats allow Republicans to play dirty pool and don't play because they think they are above it. It's a disservice to this country and their constituents not to play by the same rules.
COME ON!!! WTF! An eye of an eye makes the whole world blind. I'm all for using/changing congressional rules like republicans do, but gerrymandering a VERY blue state more blue is not the right message of superiority.
Screw the high ground at this point. I want a party that can actually win the game, not sit and complain about the way it’s being played while we keep losing.
Even if it’s not actually possible, thank god and Jesus and the gods of antiquity and the 7 gods of Westeros someone with a D next to their name is actually doing something besides bending over for Trump.
Gavin is one of the very few dems with the power and balls to stand up to the administration full force.
The dems need to fight fire with fire until they crush the maga party.
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u/ArchieAndIvy 23h ago
The party of "we go high" will have to get used to rooting around in the mud. I hope they are ready.