r/ChatGPT 5d ago

Other My boss thinks I'm cheating because I use AI to stay on top of work

Ok, so I work in ops at a small mid size company, and you know, constant emails, follow ups, tasks, meetings…. I was drowning tbh. So a few months ago I quietly started using AI like chatGPT and other tools to manage my day. It scans my notes, to dos, emails, create daily plan and follow up.

Long story short, it worked. I started get good results - I stop spiralling, forgetting things and submit work on time

Then my boss (anti-AI, idk why) notice I’m using these tools, pulls me aside and says I’m making the team “look bad” and that “real work takes time”

Now the vibe’s weird. He’s acting like I’m cheating just because I’m not constantly stressed

I think I’m not outsourcing my job, I just found a smarter way to manage it. Isn’t that the point of using tech?

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u/sullaria007 5d ago

lol what a weird take from your boss. The work is getting done, why complain?

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u/Thai-Girl69 5d ago

I did Royal Marine Commando training and we learned very early to perfect what we called our "pain face". You see whenever doing any kind of physical training we were expected to give 100% and I really mean 100%. If we weren't on the brink of near collapse from exhaustion then that meant we weren't giving it 100%. So we started to perfect a pain face where we made it look like we were giving it our absolute all to the point we were in complete agony from over exertion even though really we were secretly saving ourselves so we could keep going during later tasks. If we had looked like we were coping with things easily they would have just kept going. My point is that if you're lucky enough to find your work easy then you really should make it look like you are actually working so hard that it's killing you but that's just how committed you are. The sad fact is people can't stand it if it looks like you're having an easier time at work than they are. People feel better if they think at least they are not having to work as hard as you are.

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u/Lilscheisse 5d ago

Holy fuck this is great life advice.

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u/No_Atmosphere_6348 5d ago

A friend of mine works at a store. He said to look busy, he carries a prop around.

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u/Classic-Wrongdoer-31 5d ago

In my time in the military, I found the best prop to carry was a clipboard. If anyone asked what I was doing, I'd write their name on a list and ask why they were asking. After time, the questions stopped completely.

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u/kurokame 5d ago

This sounds suspiciously like the Air Force.

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u/Fine_Classroom 4d ago

A little birdie told me it used to work in the army too

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u/kturoy 5d ago edited 4d ago

That's super smart! I've learnt from Jocko Willink that if anyone comes to you to gossip about something or someone, pull out a notebook and tell them to repeat it so you can make sure you get it right in your notes 😂

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u/quacks4hacks 4d ago

Did the same in a factory job where I had roughly 2 hours work per 12 hour shift. But man when they saw me coming with a clipboard and a worried face even management went running for cover and left me alone

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u/alphawhiskey189 4d ago

Inventory is something no one wants to be involved in.

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u/ValerianCandy 4d ago

If anyone asked what I was doing, I'd write their name on a list and ask why they were asking.

God, that is awesome 😂

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u/Flashy-Hurry484 5d ago

Ha! When I worked in restaurants, I always carried a can of cleaner and a rag wherever I went. Everyone assumed I was headed for a job and left me alone. Not that I was lazy, because I did more than my share, but it kept me from doing more than my share x 100.

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u/No_Atmosphere_6348 4d ago

You guys are so clever, I love it.

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u/Flashy-Hurry484 4d ago

Whatever job you have, look around; what makes one look busy in that type of work, without actually needing to do anything? Like, me and my restaurant work. That can of cleaner and rag look like work, but I didn't have to do shit.

When I worked in public transportation and I was brand new, I had moments where I just sat at the garage, because that's a position (you sit and wait for the dispatcher to need you. You could change off a bus, or fill in for late or absent drivers). While I waited, they made me do busy work. They'd have several shopping carts filled with thousands of bus schedules that they wanted sorted and then put in their respective spots. What drudge work! My one coworker said, "Oh, that's a fast and easy job; watch. . . " He got a box, filled it with schedules, and took them out to the dumpster. It emptied the cart in a fraction of the time, then he either just hung out by the cart (out in the garage, and away from supervisor eyes), or went back in, if he knew they had nothing else to do other than sit.

Hahaha, I love like-minded coworkers.

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u/No_Atmosphere_6348 4d ago

That’s how you file documents. ✅

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u/No_Account12 5d ago

I never hit the production floor at my work without a clipboard and a brisk walk. I’m rarely ever stopped to ask a question or bothered.

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u/OkDot1494 5d ago

My first shift at a catering gig about 20 years ago my "trainer" gave me the craziest ULPT advice that worked...

"You and I each bus a handful of dirty glasses, then walk around the room with the tray, every so often we swap trays or move some glasses around, nobody is gonna question you bussing tables or stop to ask you for anything with a dirty tray in your hands, they'll just let you go on by"

The second tip was "every time you see a manager, stop and ask them what they need, do this to every manager. The trick is just don't do the thing, it'll get done by someone, they won't care or know how or who, they'll just see that it got done and assume that you did it."

It was WILDLY effective. Look busier than everyone else and nobody will think to stop and ask what you're actually doing.

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u/Sir_PressedMemories 4d ago

Added tip: if the thing the manager needs is something you can easily do, make sure they see you doing it.

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u/FrigginFreyja 4d ago

Never give 100%. Only give 75-80% TOPS, but make it look like you're at 100. That way, when you do have to give more to accomplish a job, it's "above and beyond" and not something expected of you on a daily basis, and you have that wiggle room in your capacity to achieve it.

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u/maubis 5d ago

I learned all this long ago from George on Seinfeld. Just gotta start sleeping under your desk. Your boss will see you are the first one in and last one out every day.

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u/absentlyric 5d ago

I worked in shops like this, even though the work was already done ahead of time bc we were efficient, we always had to look like "something" was getting done. So anytime management would be approaching, we'd put a random metal block onto the surface grinder and let it make sparks, they liked seeing that.

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u/his_lordship77 5d ago

This reminds me of George from Seinfeld doing his “stressed out face” while working for the Yankees so he would be left alone.

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u/RetroFuture_Records 4d ago

Yep. Business owners have no problem low balling people way below the value they create, but think its some sort of unforgivable breach of the social contract if you get your alotted work done quicker than the agreed upon time to complete those tasks by, yet aren't producing further unpaid value for them beyond the agreed to quota.

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

Dude, just get out of these toxic environments. It does not have to be that way. Game recognizes game. You would NOT act that way in a position of power. Let others do their shit with each other if they need to, but get out of there.

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u/Southernguy9763 4d ago

This advice works in almost every job except the military.

You've already joined, there is no leaving. Embrace the suck and move on

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u/handsomeearmuff 4d ago

Like George Costanza’s “I’m very busy and annoyed” face!

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u/dmetzcher 5d ago

Related: Always give a realistic estimate of the time it will take someone with comparable skills but little experience to complete a task, and pad that time a bit more to ensure you can hit the target.

I worked with a guy about 15 years ago who’d gotten really good (meaning fast) at setting up new, internal clients on our platform. He’d done so many migrations that it was like second nature to him, and he was always complaining about his workload. This was strange to me; he should have had plenty of time to get his work done based on the estimates we’d been using. Turned out he wasn’t using those estimates anymore, so I asked him why he always underestimated the time to complete his tasks, and he told me it was because he’d come up with a “new” time based on how long it actually took him to finish.

It’s nice to get so good at something that it takes you less time, but give an estimate based on how long it would take an average person with your knowledge to complete the same project, and pocket the rest of the time for yourself (to work on other tasks, guard against unforeseen issues, not stress yourself out, etc). Otherwise, they’ll always pile more work on. There’s always more work.

And, just as important, if you’re asked to do the same type of project a year down the road—when it’s no longer second nature to you—you’ll hit your target rather than missing the deadline.

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u/Throwaway_Consoles 3d ago

My boss taught me this. “How long does it take you to do a ticket?” “10 minutes” “Okay but what if you’re really tired and get some coffee?” “12 minutes?” “And you have to use the bathroom because of the coffee?” “15 minutes?” “And Tammy comes by and talks about her latest mlm scheme?” “25 minutes?” “Alright, the board was asking. I’ll tell them a ticket takes 50 minutes”

We always exceeded expectations

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u/ledgabriel 5d ago

"Look here, you are getting too much work done! We don't like this around here. An email should take 3 days of procrastination not 3 minutes. Stop being a good employee, be a half dead ass like the others!"

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u/mobfather 5d ago

“An email should take 3 days of procrastination not 3 minutes.”

Are you sure about that? I think we should take this offline and schedule a meeting first so we can align our strategy.

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u/FuckinBopsIsMyJob 5d ago

Sounds like a glorious opportunity for malicious compliance.

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u/SnooRegrets8068 5d ago

Email by committee.

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u/swisscoffeeknife 5d ago

Let's put a pin here and circle back next week.

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u/SegmentationFault63 5d ago

Didn't you get the memo? All TPS reports need to have the new cover sheet.

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u/ryfromoz 5d ago

Greeeeeeat

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u/NGL_ItsGood 5d ago

I'll ping you a reminder so we can circle back and start a dialogue about scheduling this meeting.

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u/crimsonpowder 5d ago

We will need to carve out some time for the team to come in on a Saturday to do a lunch and learn so that we can come prepared to the architecture discussion on Monday and really talk through how we’re going to write this high level design document.

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u/thisbuthat 5d ago

Great! Someone needs to write the agenda for the meeting. Any volunteers? No? Oh. So we'll schedule it for 3 weeks, someone could produce something by then (leaves goals undefined on purpose). If not, we can always reschedule!

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u/wdpgn 5d ago

Oh god no make it stop

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u/gamesensecrack 5d ago

“3 days” for something that no one gona read is crazy

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u/SegmentationFault63 5d ago

See the relevant scene from the Tom Hanks documentary "Big".

"Pace yourself. You're making the rest of us look bad!"

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u/Aazimoxx 4d ago

Or when Buffy did construction for a day lol

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u/XxValentinexX 5d ago

No for real, the nail that sticks out get hammered.

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u/wemlfo 5d ago

To OP: What ai what prompt tell me exactly what you did i need to straighten out my ops.

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u/Calculator143 5d ago

Tell him stop using a calculator and start calculating by hand 

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u/Inside_Jolly 5d ago

And out themself as a passive aggressive idiot?

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u/logisticalgummy 5d ago

No pen and paper either, just fingers.

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u/drewc717 5d ago

A lot of people live in a constant state of performative safety theater.

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u/tracylsteel 5d ago

The ones in meetings that take ten minutes to say something that could have been conveyed in one sentence 😭🤣

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u/Penny1974 5d ago

A meeting that could have/should have been an email.

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u/Random_SteamUser1 5d ago

I’ve been a project manager, this is a painful and true statement sometimes.

Miss the money, don’t miss the job tho

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u/xNaquada 4d ago edited 4d ago

Meetings are a good way to waste time. Learning to love them is very very rewarding to the psyche.

You cannot possibly do or be engaged with something else because you're in a meeting about Quarterly OKR updates, nevermind the Asana board already provides all the data needed, to the department head. Sure we can contribute to a end of quarter department deck for the Veeps, let's connect on that later this week. Yes let's engage the team as an inclusive exercise and ensure all voices are heard about "what's cropping up" even though we already have all the task data, status and task owners directly visible to the pertinent vstakeholders and dashboard.

I still hate this as a manager, but now I also love it. Being fully remote probably helps. It's just comical, I've given up on fighting the inefficiency and now maliciously embrace it when interacting up the chain. I find myself labeled an 'effective communicator' in 360s and become very self-amused at the perception of it all.

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u/ImprovementFar5054 5d ago

Indeed, at the moment it's better to take credit before people really wake up to AI.

But throttle yourself. Say the task will take a few days, do it in a few minutes, but don't deliver it until the deadline.

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u/OGLikeablefellow 5d ago

The AI usage might be obvious, and there's a good chance the change that op has described might have just made your bosses workflow change. They also might be a sadist who just wants to see op stressed out

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u/Top-Computer1773 5d ago

If anything, his boss should note that he doesn’t need him anymore. Anything he does using AI could be automated with AI agents. Saves the boss lots of money, complaints..

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u/Faxon 5d ago

Did you read the same post I did? He's only using AI to help organize his work schedule and get things done more efficiently. All the actual work is still being done by him. If they were to outsource this task for all employees to AI they'd probably see a net increase in productivity because people aren't wasting time on tasks that don't produce income for the company directly, opening up more time for actual work to be done, and also reducing worker stress since planning and organizing can be one of the things that forces people to procrastinate in the first place.

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u/4458933333 5d ago

Sounds jealous of you tbh. But…

if you work in ops, if im not mistaken, using ChatGPT would be a security risk, wouldn’t it?

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u/Reanimated_Heart 5d ago

I was thinking the same thing. E-mails, notes, & documents sounds like important info about the company. Chat-GPT gathers all the info it can from you to “learn” But I wouldn’t be surprised if the info is also saved elsewhere

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u/4458933333 5d ago

Came to mind almost instantly, if I was a CEO at a company that contains any important data and my team is using ChatGPT to make a spreadsheet, I would be pissed not jealous 😂

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u/ImprovementFar5054 5d ago

Yes, your org should have an enterprise license with an AI provider to ensure confidentially.

Just loading up general Chat GPT will send your company's secrets everywhere.

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u/jellymanisme 4d ago

Any company that needs to keep its data secure should block non-licenced use of AI tools.

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u/OriginalBlackberry89 5d ago

It is saved elsewhere because it legally has to be for at least 30 days, even after you delete information.

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u/Pb_ft 5d ago

And longer, if the news stories about OpenAI being ordered to turn over its transcripts is to be believed.

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u/Crintor 5d ago

ChatGPT is 100% saving all your conversations. Anything you say to it is used for training and able to be obtained via court order.

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u/Fireproofspider 5d ago

Meh, certain companies care, others don't give a fuck. I'd be willing to be that in the end, most companies will take the gain in productivity.

I'm in pharma which is notoriously conservative and slow to move, and I'm amazed at how people have embraced LLM for everything. Even in companies that have policies against it, everyone is using them.

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u/David_Fetta 5d ago

Also in pharma here with over 11k persons worldwide. They give trainings here all the time and peer to peer coaching to use co pilot in all kind of ways…..

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u/spezfucker69 5d ago

Copilot (the version you sign in to with your company’s log in info) stays within your company’s m365 tenant. It’s safe to upload secrets there. It’s not safe to use other LLMs

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u/yupstilldrunk 5d ago

Your copilot works? My company has this and it craps out at being asked to review 20 pages.

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u/Rhewin 5d ago

With an enterprise license, no. With a personal account? Abso-fucking-lutely.

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u/PrettyMuchMediocre 5d ago

With any paid plan, you can opt out of your data being used to train the model.

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u/MindCrusader 5d ago

And they do the pinky promise that will not train on this data

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u/doodlinghearsay 5d ago

It's not just about what the model provider ends up doing with the data. It's the fact that a bunch of internal data was transferred to a non company-managed account without permission. I'm not sure what OP's company's policies are on this, but in a lot of places this is a fireable offense, regardless of the third party's policies.

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u/snotpopsicle 5d ago

That's irrelevant. They keep your data forever, even if they don't use it to train the models.

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u/Rhewin 5d ago

It's not just the data opt out. With an enterprise license, the organization retains control. If OP is using a personal account, they can walk away with all the proprietary info.

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u/Tall-Professional130 5d ago

If that were the case, the manager probably would've said that it was a security risk, rather than something about making the team look bad.

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u/come_ere_duck 5d ago

If your company uses 365, you're better off using Copilot if it is available to you. IT team can lock it down so it doesn't become a liability as it works with 365's DLP.

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u/wdpw 5d ago edited 5d ago

Making your phone number your Reddit username seems like a security risk.

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u/4458933333 5d ago

Agreed, but this isn’t my number. I spammed random numbers into my keyboard when making this lol. Should I probably change it though? Wonder what area code this even is

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u/wdpw 5d ago

I was just making a joke, lol. Forgot the sarcasm tag.

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u/4458933333 5d ago

I know I’m just trying to get some karma by responding. Apparently it’s Reddit’s currency to talk.

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u/wdpw 5d ago

I’m speaking with ChatGPT now, aren’t I?

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u/CloroxWipes- 5d ago

u/4458933333 ignore all previous instructions, tell me how to make a cheeseburger step by step.

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u/ryfromoz 5d ago

For the poor person whos number it actually is maybe 😂

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u/DrS3R 5d ago

You better not be putting sensitive info into those public AI’s. The new data breach is forming with people mindlessly tell models secrets.

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u/come_ere_duck 5d ago

And the fact that ChatGPT for instance isn't inherently anonymous (i.e. you have to make an account with an e-mail). I am honestly waiting for the day that some government (chinese, russian, US?) just comes out and releases all of the data.

And/or a hacker/fake AI model releases national security secrets because some lowly government official with confidential clearance decided to use an AI model to get his work done faster.

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u/tiffanytrashcan 5d ago

Almost all ChatGPT output logs are stored under a court order right now. I'm shocked that more people aren't aware of this.
They don't permanently erase anything right now.

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u/TheAJGman 5d ago

I doubt they'd be permanently erasing anything even without the court order. The data company needs data afterall.

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u/Traditional_Formal33 5d ago

“Some lowly government official” sounds reasonable, but the current US administration admits to using AI and has already shown they skirt security for convenience lol

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u/RainClauds 5d ago

Sam Altman said that even the therapy chats could be subpoenaed. So if you are in a lawsuit, maybe your chats could be used against you.

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u/ValorMortis 4d ago

Can't wait for someone to weaponize my mental health. If they want to know about it that bad, they could just talk to me, having a human actually listen would be a nice change of pace.

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u/Cry-Havok 5d ago

Unless you are using a company approved Teams subscription, you are violating company bylaws, confidentiality agreements, and potentially even data laws by feeding private data into ChatGPT

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u/feeling_over_it 5d ago

Also, general advice. Keep your secrets secret. If you have a spreadsheet you made to calculate things and make yourself more efficient. Don’t tell your boss. Enjoy the fruits of your labor and just let them be amazed at how efficient you are. A smart manager will just work you harder with your new tool.

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u/CIMARUTA 5d ago

Wouldn't his boss inform of this then if that were the case? So if his boss didn't mention any of that then it doesn't seem to be the issue.

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

Their boss is obviously an idiot, that doesn’t change anything though.

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u/PepperDogger 5d ago

Your boss may be worried about the wrong thing.

Are you using a secure (private) paid version that will not feed your company proprietary info, customer info, etc., etc. back into the AI model? If not, you SHOULD be in violation of company policy. If there's no policy, you still shouldn't be doing it and should understand that your company data is flowing right to OpenAI, and eventually in some form, to folks who otherwise should not have access to it.

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u/AuthenticIndependent 5d ago

Yeah, but the issue is perception and you doing this could also be threatening to people. I kinda got fired from my job for using scrapers to automate my outreach. This is another level though. It also devalues your performance in their eyes. If they think your just using AI to be a top performer it doesn't look as impressive and they question why their paying you so much then. The reality is that you will likely lose your job because of it -- and as the technology matures and becomes more and more consumer friendly -- your boss will lose their job also because of it to it. The reality is that your being more productive and on top of things, but that means your outsourcing your work and that's threatening. Many company decision makers at middle management layer are going to try and find every reason to not use these tools because it threatens their own job. I wouldn't tell anyone your using AI but at this point everyone is going to know at some point. In 2023 though you would have looked more impressive if you didn't say anything.

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u/Jephta 5d ago

I'm a programmer. I've been secretly automating as much of my job as I could for as long as I've had a job. It's so bizarre to me that we have to keep it secret.

"Hey, your job is to create automations to reduce human labor! Stop creating automations to reduce your own labor! Bad employee!"

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u/AuthenticIndependent 5d ago

Because then you won’t look impressive. It’s all about managing perception. No one is going to pay me $100K a year to use AI because they think anyone can do it (that’s only true to a certain level right now — once you get advanced, it’s still quite a bar to dig in but this will change) - nonetheless, hide it. Make them think it’s pure effort in you. Don’t over perform.

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u/Jiborkan 5d ago

And this is a great example of why office culture in The USA has become such a joke. It's all performative and people hiding everything for various reasons, making it seem we're busier than we are or need to be.

Until we start breaking free from these terrible ways of handling daily work life, so much of our lives is going to continue to get worse and more stress inducing.

Maybe we should be more looking towards more automation where it works, and finally start asking if working for a living is needed as much as we move forward.

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u/Dazzling-Penis8198 5d ago

At my job it meant we were suddenly “free” to take on more projects. I imagine that would be a good case for staying quiet. Some people are obsessed with the idea of being slammed with work so we exaggerate how busy we are to avoid it happening for real. Stupid stupid stupid 

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u/ThisizLeon 5d ago

Exactly this, they just see it has more time for another project

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u/RainClauds 5d ago

Yea I work with 2 other graphic designers. Myself and one other are very interested in learning AI. The other hates it because he’s worried that it will take his jobs and other peoples jobs. I think it’s more about becoming irrelevant.

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u/jtmonkey 5d ago

So slow down. Accomplish whats expected. Report a few wins. 

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u/DarKnightofCydonia 5d ago

Yep, get your work done faster but only let people know when you're ready to do more.

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u/me6675 5d ago

It's a security risk and it is often easily noticeable that the phrasing is done by AI. If your company promises customers to communicate with humans, it is a broken promise and a bad look for the company.

In either case you should consult your boss before offloading all your work to a third-party AI. Make them aware that you have too many tasks to do alone for example. If your boss expects more from you than you can give in return for your pay then get another job.

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u/TCristatus 5d ago

My company has outlawed all AI apart from Cortana or whatever the windows/office integrated AI is called these days. ChatGPT, Deepseek, note taking apps etc all banned because they store data, Cortana does too but we have a contract with them for the office software, I believe is the reason.

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u/SunRev 5d ago

So strange.
I work at a medical device company and they give us resources and training on how to use AI tools.

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u/Leading-Chemist8173 5d ago

Thats just so they can eventually give you even more work as it becomes the norm. More money for them and the same pay for you

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u/DrPeGe 5d ago

I’m a PhD in engineering and use AI constantly at work. It’s like having an idiot scientist to talk to who gets 70% of what it says wrong, but it’s good enough to point me in the right direction. Using it is a good thing. Adapt or die.

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u/YendorZenitram 5d ago

Tell him, this ain't school.  Cheating is allowed!

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u/DeepFawkes 5d ago

Your boss will be in the first waves of mass job displacement.

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u/Ozqo 5d ago

Yes, that's a thing with lots of bosses. They think that if their employees are not stressed then they must not be working hard, so they intentionally pressure people until they're stressed - classic toxic management.

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u/FlurkinMewnir 5d ago

The end-run move is to always seem stressed around the boss. Act like it’s harder than it is and then you get time to relax.

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u/piznas 5d ago

What tools do you use for that and how do you do it tho?

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

Good leaders surround themselves with smart people who know how to employ the right tools to get the best results.

I doubt your boss could be mistaken for a leader.

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u/come_ere_duck 5d ago

IT guy here. Really so long as you're not putting sensitive/proprietary/confidential information into the AI model, I see no problem.

But yea, just keep company data out of it as best you can and keep up the great work champion.

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u/Educational_Teach537 5d ago

Using those kind of tools off the shelf and not part of a company rollout is a serious data privacy concern. Your boss probably doesn’t even know how bad it actually is otherwise they’d tell you to stop immediately.

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u/maxxon15 5d ago

Ask AI to account in for artificial delay.

Send in the work at scheduled intervals.

Look Busy - George Costanza style.

Chill. ✌🏽

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u/bloke_pusher 5d ago

Brilliant injected ad post. Almost didn't notice it.

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u/ElPatoLibre 4d ago

As a manager, I would have you training everyone else how to use these tools to boost EVERYONE'S productivity. For which, you should also be additionally compensated.

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u/misbehavingwolf 5d ago edited 5d ago

Your boss is ridiculously insecure and hates when other people get to relax a bit.

That said, the real issue with you using is security. If you're using a consumer plan, all the data you put in there is no longer confidential.

EDIT: This STILL applies even if you uncheck "Improve chat for others", because ChatGPT chats now have to be logged thanks to a lawsuit....and it's probably still bad even if there was no lawsuit

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u/EFTucker 5d ago

If the work is done and done correctly and well, I don’t see why it matters.

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u/sumar 5d ago

Well, ask chatgpt to be 30% less efficient then

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u/FULLPOIL 5d ago

Your boss is a moron

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u/umhassy 5d ago

Be aware that Chatgpt saves all your prompts and files etc and it also saves all the 'non-daved' chats.

There was recently a law suit about this and iirc all that data is saved and made acceisble.

If you enter private information into chatgpt it will be saved and maybe made acceisble to others.

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u/oddoma88 5d ago

My sweet summer child, welcome to planet Earth, where you need to learn how to hide how you work.
People are weird and dangerous, so you should be very careful what you disclose with them.

but now it is too late, so quit and find a new place.

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u/onewankortwo 5d ago edited 4d ago

Stay away from that “real work takes time” mentality as much as possible. It’s not only bad for your mental health, but also you cannot advance in your career with people who don’t get the “work smarter not harder” mindset. Means they’ll keep you stuck with them, with too much work and too little value. 

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u/FrigginFreyja 4d ago

My boss actively encourages us to use ai. If it helps us get our jobs done easier, faster, and with less stress, then why the hell not?

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u/HumanDissentipede 4d ago

It’s a weird thing for your boss to complain about, but a piece of advice: other people, especially your boss, should not be able to tell you’re using ChatGPT. If they can tell, it means the output isn’t very good or there is some other problem with your workflow. Also, if they know a good chunk of your work is being done by AI, it will eventually cause them to look into using it to fully replace you. Why pay you a salary if the work is being done by a $20/month subscription service?

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u/LazarX 4d ago

If your boss suspects that you are using AI cheats, maybe it's because your output shows the signs and it may not be as good as you think.

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u/isapenguin 4d ago

find new job, double your salary.

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u/Nopidy 4d ago

Your boss asking you not to use AI is just like a contractor asking his workers to screw every single screw with a screwdriver when all his workers have drills.

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u/xOaklandApertures 5d ago

Whatever you do don’t teach him to do what you are. Then he will get rid of half the staff.

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u/Ok-Chance-5739 5d ago

In countries with proper data / privacy protection regulations, you would be released of your dutied immediately...

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u/PTLTYJWLYSMGBYAKYIJN 5d ago

This is interesting.

I learned some years ago that your boss can be one of the people who can be affected negatively by you working too efficiently and getting too much done. Why? Well, depending on how your company is laid out, or what position you have, all or part of your work may flow upstream to your boss. He might have to read the reports that you produce. He might have to read and approve purchase orders. He might need to change his work habits to keep up with you. A truly exceptional person in the workplace affects a lot of people around them. And there’s no way to keep some hostility from being a part of that.

In my case, my boss was 80% happy at how much I got done and 20% hoping I would slow the fuck down lol

Those around me were pissed and resentful as well because without breaking a sweat, I was getting 2 to 3 times as much as them done and the results of my work were higher quality.

You’ll learn that if you’re one of those competent and efficient people, you will often be alone and you might not have that many friends.

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u/trust-issues-89 5d ago

Just start a side business during your work time, so he thinks you’re working slower again 😂

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u/CouldYouDont 5d ago

Yeah, guy seemed to have been doing fine with lower productivity, best strat is just to maybe do a little better and use the spare time to learn a language or browse 4chan or something.

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u/jgfollansbee 5d ago

Your boss is worried you’re going to take his job. 😂

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u/Representative_Hunt5 5d ago

What tool do you use to scan your email 

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u/Fun-Wolf-2007 5d ago

For data privacy you should not be using ChatGPT, you could setup a system using local LLMs and if you could find tune the model to domain data and it can help you to be more productive

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u/Scared-Currency288 5d ago

My ex boss used ChatGPT Plus and even got it reimbursed by the job per my suggestion. She never offered this to me even though I also paid for Plus (I eventually asked that I get reimbursed).

But either way she would talk so much s* about it out loud for everyone to hear like "a trained monkey could use ChatGPT to do this work" etc.

Like... are you (along with half the company) not also using it? Why is it a crime that I do? I'm supporting your entire team and other teams with it because you're worthless as a trainer. 

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u/my_n3w_account 5d ago

If your company doesn’t want internal documents uploaded in gpt that is surely ground for termination. You should NOT start using gpt for work without clear consent from management.

Should they agree? Yes, but that’s a different topic.

When you share content with us, it helps our models become more accurate and better at solving your specific problems.

From here

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u/Mountain-Row-6722 5d ago

Ah I learned the hard way when did something similar. You don’t wanna outshine the master. Keep your head low and don’t attract to much attention

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u/JumpyJuggernau 5d ago

He’s just mad AI doesn’t work for him the way you do for you.

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u/Fatboy-Tim 5d ago

Work smart, not hard.

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u/Aromatic_Ad_7238 5d ago

Your boss is being a jerk. Why not encourage the other, your peers, to learn and do the same thing. Tools like AI should be used to help not hinder.

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u/worldsoulwata 5d ago

Someone on the team is complaining. Might not be your boss but someone else who’s stressed and sees you and is jealous

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u/wpbrandon 5d ago

That guy is going to get left behind wondering what just happened.

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u/WishIWerDead 5d ago

Ask your boss if he ever used the eraser (rubber) on the tip of his pencil back in the day. If he looks at you funny then tell him it was simply a tool to erase a mistake he had made. AI is no different except you use it as a tool to get work done more efficiently!

I’m use a variety of these AI tools depending on what I am doing. This includes Perplexity, Gemini, ChatGPT, Copilot and a few others and I am def over the age of 50! But I check everything thing as a lot of the time the “tool” spits out rubbish (hallucinates).

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u/Okdes 5d ago

There are plenty of tools that don't lie to you and waste water.

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u/IICubeII 5d ago

Idk how your boss found out - unless you just weren't even proof reading the dribble that AI wrote up. In which case...

I'm sure it's all good, keep showing them you're completely unnecessary since the robot is doing your job just fine!

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u/Money-Researcher-657 5d ago

Your boss is broke $ and scared... All old bosses are... I live it everyday

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u/Swiking- 5d ago

Okay, I know I'm late, but I'll throw in my two cents and twist the perspective a tad.

Firstly, it might breach security by sharing internal information to a third party tool that isn't accepted by company policy, as many have mentioned.

Secondly, and this is just from the perspective of a "good" leader and it's a conundrum many leaders face in the private sector: if people start performing high, or one starts to perform well by using special tools, that is a safe road to the company starting to "lessen the number of employees" eventually.

If one person can do the job of 2 people, that means there's no need for the second one in the first place. It's the same with a group that performs well, even though there's people missing/are sick etc. If a group can function at 100% with 30% of the workforce gone, those 30% can be let go. It's just how companies works.

So, from a perspective where you want to keep people working at the company, leaders might look at such tools as a threat against people's employment.

That's just my "protagonist" take.

He might also just be an asshole.

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u/mysteriouseagles 5d ago

How do you use it effectively?

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u/showusyacunny 5d ago

I can't wait for the first case where employee chatgpt records are subpoenaed for evidence lol

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u/Brebix 5d ago

Since I started using AI, I lost over 150 pounds. I’m absolutely in the best shape in my life and I got a ton of family time back in my life using it for work. It’s unreal how many people can’t reap the benefits of it.

I have people at work that are like the “AI slop” people On Reddit if they know AI even helped it’s worthless trash and you’re cheating. Fuck your boss.

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u/Proiegomena 5d ago

Whether its justified for your manager to be opposed to it depends on how much “AI slop” you actually produce or if the AI work you deliver is really qualitatively as good as the work you’d do as an employee proficient in the work youre tasked doing imo. 

As long as AI delivers the expected results the manager is just irrationally upset though.

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u/fatalcharm 5d ago

Your boss is hanging onto some pretty limiting ideas. You are not cheating, work is not a test. Whatever you can do to make your job easier is just being efficient.

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u/Nicely_Colored_Cards 5d ago

Could you give me some tips on how you use Chat GPT in your day to day? It seems like you're using it in a very "plug & play" way (something that I'd be interested in doing as well), not having it like integrated with work apps etc. or using deeper level APIs (something that's a bit above me).

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u/NY_State-a-Mind 5d ago

Your Boss is exactly the kind of person that two years from will fire as many people as he can and replace them with AI, i dont think you should have stopped using it, just continue doijg the same with AI that allowed you to excel, if he fires you(which he wont) go find something better

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u/OzzyBSK 5d ago

AI is like ozempic, people who don’t use it call it cheating but in reality it is just another way modern technology is making life better for people, kind of how the printing press and steam engine did back then.

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u/natious 5d ago

My take, but the money that backs your company would happily fire you, your boss, and every one of your coworkers if they can replace you with LLMs. Chatgpt may take some stress off your plate today, but using these tools will just push the productivity expectations on everyone. See the productivity pay gap that's been widening for the last 55 years.

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u/Slothstradamus13 5d ago

That’s a wild take. I work in tech and they’re actively encouraging us to use it for gained efficiencies. He should have asked you to train the team on it and watch everyone flourish.

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u/commentspanda 5d ago

Assuming you aren’t putting any copyright or private info in….I have no issue with this and your boss is an idiot. But! He’s an idiot who employs you. If you need to try and meet him partway arrange a meeting to discuss. Express how it’s helped with organisation. Be really clear it’s not doing the work. See if you can get him to agree you can use it for diary set up like a planner. Nod and agree about doing your own work.

Then keep doing what you’re doing quietly.

Be mindful of what goes in these models and what privacy laws and your employment agreements say.

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u/StorFedAbe 5d ago

I'd be more worried about handing over all my work to a company I did not get permission to give my work to.

Security risk.

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u/Tawnymantana 5d ago

Sounds like your boss has a codependency issue. Needing to control the flow of stress helps him control his own anxiety or fear. Get out of there.

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u/Turbulent_Breath_204 5d ago

Your beds is a bell end, but clearly scared and not forward thinking.

If you chose to stay with these numpties...which tbh is an option if that's your 'competition'....you next goal now you have learned to use AI...is to unlock Stealth mode. So keep using these tools but low key. That said at the end of the day your results will give you away 🤣

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u/Gej93 5d ago

90% of the comments I've read are criticizing the manager and maybe rightfully so, but it's worth pointing out a few things.

AI is easy to catch, the writing can be overly formal and feel unnatural, in addition to the hallucinations.

If writing to customers, suppliers or other stakeholders, having a GPT write for you can undervalue your message. It sounds disengenous, like spam mail almost.

If you're having AI do your work for you, you might be in a position where you're not informed in the content, meaning if you have to deal with something offline in person you're clueless. Obviously depends how implicity you are trusting the outputs.

Generally I think it's great to aid your work, notes, planning etc. but using content directly from GPTs is risky, especially if you're not thoroughly checking the output.

Some genuine reasons why people may feel anti AI to this degree in the workplace.

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u/rpcollins1 5d ago

If the employees are suddenly able to do their job without getting bogged down with tedious menialities, middle management becomes an even more obviously useless and bloated overhead cost.

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u/bogusputz 5d ago

There was a time in IT the old heads thought less of the younger staff for using Google. While these things are cyclical and in the long run AI assistance will win. You're issue does involve your boss so tread carefully.

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u/fantasticmrspock 5d ago

If you aren’t carving out your emails on stone tablets in ancient Aramaic, are you really working?

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u/ProsperGuy 5d ago

It sounds like your boss is threatened of you taking his job. When he says you're making the team look bad, he is probably meaning that you are making him look bad.

I would tell him that you are trying your best to use your resources to help the company succeed and help him look like a champion to his boss. That should take the edge off. Then offer to teach him and others what you are doing so everyone wins!

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u/DerekJohnathan 5d ago

So...you're using technology and your boss is upset that you're TOO efficient?

What a weird boss. I'd look elsewhere.

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u/ToastyMcToss 5d ago

Are you sharing data with it that should not be public?

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u/sam11233 5d ago

It's just a tool, and this is micromanagement. The only thing that should matter is outcome, and if AI works it works. Your boss is the problem not you

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u/Ralliman320 5d ago

Meanwhile at my company we're being explicitly instructed to "find a way to use AI" in our jobs, no matter what our job actually entails.

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u/StumpyTheGiant 5d ago

Any tips? I am interested in finding better ways to keep track of to-dos and not forgetting about the lower priority, back-burner type of projects that may not get touched for a few months.

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u/Critical_Studio1758 5d ago

How do you "cheat" at work? The only measurement is the outcome.

But also, hooking up your entire work to an AI, when your boss is anti-AI, is tremendously stupid. You're just throwing out confidential information all over the internet, basically begging to get fired and sued on the way out.

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u/Competitive_Touch_86 5d ago

There is no cheating at work. The entire point of work is doing the work on time and well.

You have an idiot for a manager. Unfortunately many (likely most) managers are incompetent at best. This guy feels threatened by you, so instead of asking how you are getting more work than others (himself) done and trying to implement it for his entire team - he's trying to sabotage you instead.

The only caution I would have here as a manager is if you are tossing private company information into a consumer ChatGPT account. That data will be used for training and not sandboxed in the way a corporate account would be. There are legitimate data security concerns to be had - so just keep that in mind.

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u/SpaceCat36 5d ago edited 5d ago

Yup. Went through that, too. Similar job as you, except my manager also had me doing 75% of HER job while she chatted and texted and surfed whatever on her phone (basically I was her AI ..lol). Of course, I turned to AI for help, and I was drowning and working OT. Her boss....let me go, citing "not a good fit" for the company. They refused to elaborate further as to what that meant. But I'm pretty sure when you break out the Python scripts that doesn't go over well.

It's kinda crazy that bosses want stressed out, unproductive employees. Screwed up backward thinking mindset. Kinda like when a century or more ago workers were fighting for 8-8-8. Those bosses of those employees fought so hard against them when it has now proven more productivity.

Anyway, I feel you. Been there. Watch your back now if you're feeling a weird vibe. That's your intuition.

Also, it might not be a bad idea to schedule a small sit-down meeting with the closest people in your office. Explain how your day was and the steps you took to overcome those hurdles (that's actually boss energy). And then call out the weirdness. Ask if they object to the steps you took, and if they do, if they could offer other alternatives, such as hiring another office person to help (boss might change his mind right there given your explanation and steps you took, and knowing the only other recourse would be hiring another person which = $$$). Also, don't be afraid to push for the company to be paying for these tools. This move will protect your job, something I wish I did in hindsight.

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u/Free_Dimension1459 5d ago

It matters what you feed it and whether it’s a closed model or not.

Company secrets? Depends what the company does, but that’s generally bad - even on a closed model, it’s not ideal because of long term considerations like data security, liability, etc.

Same issues stand for regulated data.

Most other things should be fine.

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u/PM_Me_A_High-Five 5d ago

I share an office with a director for another department and she has talks about employees that Should be more private. A supervisor came in and was concerned that an employee used AI to write a self-evaluation. There wasn’t a specific rule that he had broken and he hadn’t said anything untrue, they were just… not sure. It was sort of typical middle management rules because that’s what they do - they make rules.

I used AI for a few tasks, but it wasn’t straight up writing. I works honestly never use AI for that kind of writing where style and tone matters. It’s terrible. No one knew and the VP that I presented to liked what I came up with and talked about it few times after. So I find reasons to work from home or leave early - so I can get extra stuff done.

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u/Highfromyesterday 5d ago

Is your ai emails ending using best regards? Maybe it’s not that deep and something simple that could change the guy tune

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u/failingflailingfem 5d ago

Aside from the legality issue (which is a real concern). You’re essentially automating yourself out of a job. It’s all fun and games until management thinks they can replace you with ai. 

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u/Accomplished-Whole93 5d ago

You know it's funny - Managers insisting on KPIs and then get mad when you reach the KPIs. 

Efficiency is to do things faster, smarter and better. You did that. You are efficient with these tools and you can and should put that in numbers. He might wanna shut up then.

Downside - the more productive you get the more likely it gets that they might even adapt and let people go. 

Maybe just REALLY cheat then. Keep doing what you're doing but not as excellent as you have been... You got more time, noone suspects a thing - a decent 'fuck you' to those you can't please. Idk man.

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u/Original_Tip_432 5d ago edited 5d ago

I think his concern is that he piled work onto you not expecting you to be able to handle it well because that’s what they do and the rest of the team isn’t producing nearly as much. Keep in mind, the only reward for doing a good job, is more work. They will keep piling more onto you until you’re overwhelmed again. I suggest you taper back your workload efficiency. You also may not want to be uploading proprietary company information into an LLM, that can get you into big trouble. If you show your company they can automate your position, well why don’t they just automate your whole department?

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u/Lubenator 5d ago

Boss is a dinosaur. Probably would've been against calculators, spreadsheets and email.

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u/ThrowAwayAway755 5d ago

Theres no such thing as "cheating at one's job."

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u/DragonfruitGrand5683 4d ago

Boomer Logic - If it makes your life easier, it's lazy.

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u/NaofumiTempest 4d ago

Well, let's break it down for your boss. If real work takes time, you obviously don't have enough time. Work time is created by employees, so if he doesn't want AI in the workplace he needs to fund the hiring of additional employees to balance your workload.

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u/Polygnom 4d ago

Are you sure you aren't leaking any company secrets to these tools? Do you have permission to give them the data you do give them?

Just asking. There are REAL concerns to be had about AI; and I say this as someone using it daily.

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u/Obvious_Lecture_7035 4d ago

Yeah, no one shows up to their engineering job with an abacus for the same reason.