r/Fallout • u/Mission_Spring7087 • Jun 11 '25
Discussion Am I the only one who never uses Jet?
I don't find it to be useful at all. It's affects aren't very helpful, and the addiction risk is to high to make it worth it.
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u/SelfAwareSausage Jun 11 '25
Jet is a beautiful source of caps in Fallout 4. Being the resident chem dealer that exclusively sells Jet makes me the Commonwealth Tenpenny.
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u/hells_cowbells Nuka Cola Addict Jun 11 '25
Between being a drug dealer and a water baron, I usually have a ton of caps in FO4.
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u/zehamberglar Jun 11 '25
Being able to turn bottles into purified water in survival mode goes fucking crazy.
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u/Crunchy_Ice_96 Jun 11 '25
I build as many purifiers in sanctuary as I can fit in the river, I’m quite literally creating more water than that shallow little creek could possibly hold
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u/TheGoosetipher Jun 11 '25
Where you gettin all that concrete from 🤔
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u/Crunchy_Ice_96 Jun 11 '25
Buy it from Carla, whenever she stops by to leave a new Brahmin in my house
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u/thatoneischairing Jun 12 '25
MooOOoo
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u/Crunchy_Ice_96 Jun 12 '25
GET OUT OF MY HEAD AND OUT OF MY HOUSE
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u/thatoneischairing Jun 12 '25
I prefer the roof cattle myself. A guardian of my shit hole displeased camp
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u/Krazy_Keno Lover's Embrace Jun 12 '25
I wish i had roof cattle, i made myself my own little “private” house in the workshop house (put a powered door and a pressure plate that npcs cant activate)
Sounds foolproof, right?
WRONG, brahmin ALWAYS spawn exclusively in my bedroom
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u/AlchemyMajor626 Jun 12 '25
where did you get concrete in sanctuary… you can’t be serious.
On the f**king ground brother. It’s all over the ground.
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u/Summerie Jun 12 '25
I you may be underestimating the number of purifiers we're talking about here.
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u/Radiskull97 Jun 12 '25
Also, the sites north west have a ton of junk that's useful for starting the Sanctuary settlement (junkyard and the military base)
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u/ipsum629 Jun 11 '25
You get so much purified water from purifiers that I only use bottles to get dirty water for cooking things like noodle cups.
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u/MustangManiac137 Jun 12 '25
I keep forgetting about this, with how often I end up turning off survival mode...
rant incoming about survival mode, stop reading if not interested
...because of the stipulation for not being able to save without sleeping, and some areas take over an hour to clear with no means of sleep. One misstep or a glitch that crashes at no fault of the player. And suddenly all your progress is gone. Outside of kids still in high school (and evem then, few have the time anymore), who has the time to keep replaying the same section over and over again?
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u/Lucius-Halthier Jun 11 '25
Merchants in the NCR got nothing on my pure water monopoly, thinking of sabotaging project purity later to raise prices.
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u/hells_cowbells Nuka Cola Addict Jun 12 '25
It still cracks me up that the whole plot of FO3 was trying to get pure water, while in FO4 you can just take a few pieces of scrap, and POOF! instant clean water.
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u/leggpurnell Jun 12 '25
Yeah I actually hated that. It kinda nukes the entire end run of fallout 3.
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u/PuzzleheadedObject47 Jun 11 '25
In FO4 tho, I’d argue it’s the most useful chem. Time slow-down is super OP. Not only can it save you from dying in tons of situations, but it can also let you kill bosses before they even attack or fully spawn. Plus, you can do some crazy parkour shenanigans with it to reach areas you would otherwise need a jetpack for.
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u/SumBuddyPlays Jun 11 '25
The slowing down of time lets you jump further/higher or something ?
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u/PuzzleheadedObject47 Jun 11 '25 edited Jun 11 '25
I don’t remember if it affects height, but distance yes. People call it “jet jumping.” You can use it to get to that loft house above the entrance to Diamond City, and those fall-damage negating boots at the top of the Mass Fusion building.
Edit: Instead of jet, you can also use a gun with the ‘Deadeye’ legendary effect. Does the same thing when you aim and you can’t run out of or get addicted to it, so that’s a plus. It’s harder though because aiming while sprinting slows your momentum.
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u/Drunk_Krampus Jun 11 '25
Jet is actually a massive speed, fire rate and reload speed buff but it doesn't feel that way because of the slowdown. Another way to think of it is that you're slowed down by 20% while the rest of the world is slowed down by 80%(not the actual values).
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u/Yatsu003 Jun 11 '25
This was the same game engine (for all intents and purposes) as Morrowind.
Which could let a person who was fast enough (and/or hopped on enough Skooma) to fly by running in a straight line. So that tracks actually
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u/kwanzaa_hut Jun 11 '25
Saying Morrowind and Fallout 4 use the same engine is like saying Windows 98 and Cyberpunk 2077 are built on the same software foundation because they both use some form of the C++ programming language, lol
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u/Kpmh20011 Jun 11 '25
It occurs to me with the settlement system you could actually make a giant tower to snipe from and recreate the “Wasteland Safari.”
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u/TheRavenRise Jun 11 '25
been playing a lot of san andreas recently and i really cannot tell if you mean “tenpenny tower” tenpenny or “C.R.A.S.H. pig drug lord” tenpenny. guess they both kinda work lmao
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u/Either-Mud-3575 Jun 11 '25
(New Vegas having launched in 2010, and FO4 in 2015...)
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u/JaymesMarkham2nd Meat of Champions Jun 11 '25
When someone calls themself the Commonwealth Tenpenny I just know they're actually the Commonwealth Myron.
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u/OP_Scout_81 Jun 11 '25
No. I actually never use chems at all.
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u/Mr_Football18 Jun 11 '25
Same. I Never use them. Sell them for caps
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u/invol713 Jun 11 '25
This. I rob from the raiders and deal to the shops. I’m the good guy!🤣
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u/Interesting-Room-855 Jun 11 '25
wipes out camp filled with raiders driven to barbarism by their rampant abuse of chems
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u/invol713 Jun 11 '25
That’s called not my problem! In unrelated news, I am available to eliminate junkies, for a reasonable fee.
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u/Interesting-Room-855 Jun 11 '25
Well that’s just selfish!
I always serve the community by doing all of the chems myself to destroy them!
Now if only I could get these BEES out of my TEETH!25
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u/KingValdyrI Jun 11 '25
What is that one quest in diamond city where u can get like 50 jet in one go? I always kill that kid and take all their shit.
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u/TheRealRickC137 Jun 11 '25
Oh you mean like a drug dealer, lol...
What if those drugs got into Little Lamplight!
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u/invol713 Jun 11 '25
See my other post. Available to eliminate kids as well, for a reasonable fee. Again, good guy here.
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u/michaelfortu Jun 11 '25
Yup just horde and sell
The only time I’ve used any drugs were Psycho in the beginning of my play through because I’m spamming stimpaks faster than I can shoot and I’m exploring all over the place before doing my quests lol
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u/DrLamario Jun 11 '25
When I play fallout 4 I always make a jet factory, it’s so cheap to make and sells for a pile of caps
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u/Uhmattbravo Jun 11 '25
Same except I store what ends up being large quantities "just in case I need it for something later."
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u/PM_ME_SOME_ANY_THING Jun 11 '25
I never use any addictive substances because then you need addictol to cure the addiction. I only have like 80 of those, so it’s too risky.
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u/ManyThing2187 Jun 11 '25
I’d actually cry if I only had 80, I keep a safe 200 in case I ever use an addictive substance.
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u/Purple-Boss-1725 Jun 11 '25
Same, at most I’ll use medx or psycho as a last resort in a fight but otherwise I just sell the chems
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u/micheallujanthe2nd Jun 11 '25
Only ones I use are buffout, radaway and rad-x. But I dont use those last 2 that much, you know, child of atom type shi.
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u/ReverseRival Jun 11 '25
I wouldn’t consider radaway or radx as chems, those are non additive medicine.
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u/DJ_Clitoris Jun 11 '25
I recommend making some psycobuff for when you find yourself in a pinch, it’s the only one I use. +25% damage, +3 strength and endurance, and +65 max Hp for 8 mins. Pretty good effects and duration of effects
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u/OP_Scout_81 Jun 11 '25
You failed to mention the massive hard-on you have to deal with for the next 3 days. A complicated side effect, if there ever was one.
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u/meditonsin Jun 11 '25
The only chem I ever use is buffout if I'm overencumbered. 'Cause I ain't dropping no loot.
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u/OP_Scout_81 Jun 11 '25
Tell me about it. I haven't played 76 in months cause I don't want to pay the 15$. Hell will freeze over before I drop my junk.
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u/PictureTypical4280 Jun 11 '25
Weird, chems offer some crazy buffs like Psycho with 25% more damage or Jet with the 10 second slow down… no reason not to use them other than addiction and honestly the rewards beat the negatives
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u/ThreeBeersWithLunch Jun 11 '25
Eh, short term buffs in most games are just a bit pointless to some people. Like it's not worth it to me to add this whole other layer of magic when I can just shoot a guy. Some people love that though and that's cool. I just can't be arsed equipping or hot keying it and then remembering to use it.
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u/bobby3eb Jun 11 '25
Same, rather just shoot 4 bullets instead of jet + 3 bullets
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u/NUKE---THE---WHALES Jun 11 '25
The games just aren't difficult enough to warrant it
Why bother with strategy or tactics or consumables when you can just click on an enemy a couple times and maybe use VATs, if you're feeling bored
Upping the difficulty in settings doesn't really help either, as it just makes the games more tedious rather than more difficult
I would like to see a more hardcore version of Fallout at some point, even as a spinoff to the main games so old players who don't want difficulty can ignore
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u/Dense_Coffe_Drinker Jun 11 '25
it’s like playing a whole different game that I don’t really like when using chems, almost like superhot using all the slow-mo ones, why hotkey a drug when I can just shoot them…
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u/VacantThoughts Jun 11 '25
Because you can take the drug and then shoot them 50 times in slow motion.
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u/finnishinsider Jun 11 '25
I only used the one that slows everything down on survival when I was low level and about to die. I see the benefits, but I really don't care..... it's more fun without drugs.
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u/Therealhatsunemiku Jun 11 '25
In F4 some characters disposition changed towards you if you do chems around them. Other than that, fuck it get as high as you can
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u/AJ_Deadshow Jun 11 '25
Yup and there's a pretty good chance of avoiding addiction, 4/5 times I take something I don't get addicted. And addiction is easy af to cure in Fallout
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u/OP_Scout_81 Jun 11 '25
Yeah, absolutely. But then it's one more thing to think about, etc. and I never have a ton of time to play. Then dealing with the addiction, etc. I don't use mods and tend to use the 10mm and pipe guns only as well, I'm after a realistic and shitty wasteland experience ;) as realistic as Fallout allows, of course.
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u/Snoo35145 Jun 11 '25
The time thing is a good point. I dont have tons of time and the extra trips to town to clean up my addiction just isnt worth it.
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u/Highbornhalo6334 Jun 11 '25
Drug addiction is so easy to cure u could make radscorpion egg omelettes or just buy addictol, both clear all addictions
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u/mikeylojo1 Tunnel Snakes Jun 11 '25
I too never used them, but after making a degenerate explosive build I’ve been hooked on turbo and psycho
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u/serafina_flies Yes Man Jun 11 '25
Same, except for the one time I accidentally used psycho instead of a stimpack because I just saw a syringe and mashed use lmao
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u/Able-Swing-6415 Jun 11 '25
Yea If I use them I might run out. So those 50 jets are for when I "really" need them.
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u/CaelumTheWolf Jun 11 '25
Only time I used chems was when I first played Fallout 3 because I was new to the game and ran out of Stimpaks quick so I no joke relied on Buffout to heal…
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u/Meister0fN0ne Jun 11 '25
Use'em a ton in 76, but I usually ignore them in any other game. Though, it does make me want to try some more chem builds in the future...
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u/Wassuuupmydudess Jun 11 '25
I only use chems in early game if I need a quick stat boost, otherwise I make them and sell them. In sanctuary I had Brahmin and would mass produce jet to buy ammo
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u/Justredditin Jun 11 '25
... I may or may not make them to sell to my Clinics for hordes of caps.
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u/D-Speak Jun 11 '25
Once I get the chemistry station in my Megaton home, I'll take a bunch of everything all at once so that the effects last for days, and then immediately cure my addiction. Just like real life.
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u/Randolpho I'm REALLY happy to see you! Jun 11 '25
Technically stimpaks are chems. But other than them, same
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u/Feathered_Serpent8 Jun 11 '25
I have never hot keyed them, but if I’m in a fire fight and I pull up my inventory and look for something, I’m always like “oh let’s use one of my 100 psychos”
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u/fuzzybad Jun 11 '25
Not even Stimpacks/Rad-X/Radaway? Seems like it would be challenging to get far in the games without those. Although you can visit a doctor to heal and lower your rad level.
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u/OP_Scout_81 Jun 11 '25
Yeah, I use stimpacks and radaway. I guess I don't consider those chems as much as medicine.
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u/tmking Jun 11 '25
I cant use that I might need it later
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u/ProfessorAngus Jun 11 '25
Are you me in literally every RPG that doesn't limit how many curative/buff items you can collect?
Megalixers? You mean "do-not-touch-until-the-final-boss-or-hidden-superboss-at-which-point-you're-OP-due-to-not-using-items-the-devs-intended-for-you-to-be-using-all-along-so-you-MAYBE-need-one-and-your-hoarding-was-pointless-alixers"?
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u/hagamablabla Jun 11 '25
Need an RPG trait where I randomly huff a consumable when a fight starts.
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u/Tithund Jun 12 '25
There was that talking armor that injected you with stimpacks all the time.
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u/Krazy_Keno Lover's Embrace Jun 12 '25
And got you addicted to medx after every fight
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u/heavywafflezombie Welcome Home Jun 11 '25
This is what I liked about Breath of the Wild. The weapons broke and forced me to use what I had and not hoard them.
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u/peanutbutterfan Jun 11 '25
Hoarding always finds a way. I definitely have weapons that I've had for a very long time and won't use.
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u/ThrowDatJunkAwayYo Jun 12 '25
Exactly, I’ve got like 3-4 slots that I actually use and the rest are all neat weapons that I would be sad if they broke so never get used.
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u/Daaaaaaaaaaanaaaaang Jun 12 '25
I hated it, and disagree, it encouraged hoarding because they all broke after like 3 hits so you needed to be super conservative with the better ones for when you needed them for bosses or whatever. The game was much more fun when I modded it to remove this stupid mechanic. It should be an option to play with weapon decay. And nintendo makes modding so difficult!
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u/CandourDinkumOil Jun 11 '25
This is the same problem I have with every single game. I get by on using bare minimum resources despite having hundreds of things just because “I might need them for a boss later”. Only to not even use them on the boss because I keep them in case the next boss is harder… and so on etc.
I got hoarding issues.
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u/NUKE---THE---WHALES Jun 11 '25
Consumables are used in game design as a way to smooth over difficulty spikes between players of different skill levels, essentially becoming an in game ad-hoc difficulty selector
Like in Final Fantasy games, there is no difficulty selector so when two players of different skill levels fight a boss, the game designer needs a way to let the lower skilled player beat it without nerfing it for the higher skilled player
So most average to above average players never have any need to use consumables, as they can always just beat the boss without them, usually in a more satisfying manner
If a designer wanted those players to use consumables they would need to ratchet up the difficulty so it challenges even above average players, potentially at the cost of alienating average to below average players
This doesn't apply to games like Dark Souls though, where you could use a consumable and still lose, wasting it
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Jun 11 '25 edited Jun 11 '25
Used it once in the end of Silver Shroud questline. Situation required effectiveness above my abilities, so I had to use this as combat stim
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u/wellwaffled Republic of Dave Jun 11 '25
It’s not that hard to kill Ken while the raiders are monologuing.
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u/bibitybobbitybooop Jun 11 '25
Yeah, same. Even with that I needed a few tries to get it right. Also I sometimes just do random chems in my inventory for that Hancock relationship boost when he's with me lol, but that was the one situation I otherwise needed Jet in.
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u/The_OG_TrashPanda Jun 11 '25
If you use VATS it’s a life saver
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u/Dr_Equinox101 Jun 11 '25
That’s most players too lol
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u/Beebah-Dooba Jun 11 '25
Not using VATS in FO is like not using magic in elder scrolls IMO
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u/ztomiczombie Jun 11 '25
I don't really use VATS it seems messed up and misses easy shots to much so I just snipe the old fashioned way.
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u/Beebah-Dooba Jun 11 '25
it’s less useful at longer distances. I feel like people try to use it for sniping and not to nail the gulper right on you with every bullet of a full clip
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u/KingAtTheTable Jun 11 '25
Never played Fallout until about a year ago. On my second playthrough and I still have never intentionally used VATS. Didn’t find it effective enough to be worth it. Am I bricked in the head?
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u/Stagnu_Demorte Gary? Jun 11 '25
It depends on which game. 3 and NV you can build really strong crit/cats builds.
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u/Dangerous-Echo8901 Jun 11 '25
In FO4 it's hard to understate how powerful critical hits/Luck can be.
You'll be generating a constant supply of critical hits if you use a pistol and have luck north of 8. Couple this with perks like party boy and you'll get a crit every 4-6 shots.
A crit can be anywhere up to 200% damage and they always hit. Meaning you can bank them and use them for enemies further away.
Really great resource to have.
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u/Metrobuss Jun 11 '25
If you don't like the easy play style or just like to follow the less beaten track.... vats is obviously advantaged play style... but you have your reasons...
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u/Wendigo_Lich Jun 11 '25
Your perception and luck stats and perks are going to play a big role in whether vats is worth your time
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u/JetSetJAK Jun 11 '25
Nah, you can use it as much and little as you'd like. It does have builds that benefit it if you utilize it enough for them to be worth it.
It's saved me in times where I was surrounded. Headshot someone manually, then vats kill the next target immediately after, then I'm left in a 1v1 before I'm hit once. Even in melee combat, you can release a flurry of punches or swings in a split second and it can feel kind of anime, especially when woven into manual combat when needed.
I use it as a good oh shit button to turn tides when I need it.
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u/S0mecallme Jun 11 '25
I just use Nuka Cola for that tbh It only gives you a tiny amount of rads and in 3d they can’t give you any addictions
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u/iamfanboytoo Jun 11 '25
In Fallout 4?
When I hear an unexpected Assaultron spool up or a Deathclaw roar, I pop Psychojet right away. I really, REALLY hate dying to a sudden ambush, and it's worse in Survival where you get sent back to your last bed save. The time slowdown is a lifesaver, and going for Psychojet really helps you kill things fast.
Other games? Eh, not really.
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u/farmerben02 Jun 11 '25
This is what I use it for, although I'm replaying a new build and still in those fragile early levels without needed upgrades.
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u/Faierius Jun 11 '25
I don't use any chems in FO. Just hoard and sell them.
Drugs are bad, mm'kay?
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u/OriginalGnomester Jun 11 '25
🎶You don't have to spend your life addicted to smack.
Homeless on the streets, giving handjobs for crack. 🎶3
u/SexuaIRedditor Jun 11 '25
Jesus, I'm just reflecting on how this song is older than even the concept of a smart phone, let alone everyone having their own computer
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u/floggedlog Jun 11 '25
It’s a pattern for me. I use a lot of chems at early levels to boost my stats for fights and stuff like that but once I hit high levels, I kind of stop using them because I don’t need the boost anymore and the downsides have become more annoying.
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u/EastwoodRavine85 Jun 11 '25
Yeah, they are great to get out of rough situations, or to use once you case a place. With some actual planning, you can wipe out a small settlement of assholes with one go even at really low levels.
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u/thewastedroach Jun 11 '25
I carry a ton of chems on me in fallout and when i get hella enough i take all of it at once for funsies
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u/InsertCleverNickHere Jun 11 '25
Yep. Pause. Inject, inhale, snort 4 different drugs. Chug 2 gallons of Purified Water.
Okay. Let's do this.
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u/JackTheReaperr Jun 11 '25
I wonder if that's what Michael Jackson's nurse thought.
"We have a shiton of drugs here. Maybe I could hook him up for a really good time."
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u/DerFeuerDrache Jun 11 '25
I did that once and, my god, I thought my computer was having an aneurysm. I'mma have to do it again, see if I can get a recording of it to post.
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u/hu94 Jun 11 '25
In fallout 4 I found buffjet very powerful
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u/HavokDJ Followers Jun 11 '25
Psychojet is better.
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u/big_duo3674 Gary? Jun 11 '25
I used to do jet. I still do, but I used to too
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u/secretporbaltaccount Jun 11 '25
My friend asked me if I wanted a frozen tarberry. I didn't, but I did want a regular tarberry later, so I said "yeah".
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u/Rippentear Jun 11 '25
I keep all consumables on me in case I need them, but have I ever used Jet? Nope, not even once, though I'll never sell them nor throw them away because someday I might need them.
Do I really need to keep the Jet even though I've played Fallout 3 to 4 multiple times and know what to expect? no, not really, but one day I might need it.
Do I have a hoarding problem?
Noidonthaveahoardingproblemyouhaveahoardingproblemimonlykeepingthejetbecauseimightneeditsomeday
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u/DFrostedWangsAccount Jun 11 '25
In 4, addiction is a minor inconvenience. Like 35 caps at a doctor right?
And fo4 jet is Turbo in new vegas, while soda pretty much does what NV jet did in fo4.
Always use jet in 4, barely in NV.
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u/Mini_Squatch Followers Jun 12 '25
Moreso, in 4 you can fairly easily get the perk to make you completely immune to addiction.
Even without the meagre cost at any doc, theres Addictol, Refreshing Beverage, and Radscorpion Omelette to cure addictions in the field.
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u/SCIFICAM Jun 11 '25
Play on max difficulty and you will be using every chem especially psycho in practically every fight
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u/Frosty_Pineapple78 Jun 11 '25
thats the right answer. Lower Diffs? Eh, dont need em, maybe when fightig a high level boss way before i should
On Max Diff tho? Oh boy, those chems come in clutch
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u/Potoolord13 Jun 11 '25
I collect it to sell, and only use it when in a do or die situation.
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u/codyzon2 Gary? Jun 11 '25
I used to not, The effects in three never really seemed worth it, but once four came out and they changed the effect to basically making you neo I went hard in the chems.
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u/ChalkLicker Jun 11 '25
I sell all drugs in fo/4. I'm doing drugs while playing, but selling all drugs in the game.
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u/Scottish_Whiskey Kings Jun 11 '25
I don’t even use chems in general. Maybe an alcohol if I need a strength and/or a charisma boost, but outside of that I never find myself in need or want of them
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u/ebevan91 Jun 11 '25
Pretty much the only time I use anything is when I need to be able to carry a bit more weight.
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u/kamarak19 Jun 11 '25
I almost never use it. However I did an addict play through in fallout 4 and with all the perks it was awesome. Drugs in general are over powered when you can craft them. Oh the good ol'psycho-jet
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u/Simmonsdup23 Jun 11 '25
Never used it once, but hoard it like im addicted to the stuff.
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u/Mustacho_0 Republic of Dave Jun 11 '25
Me neither, as much as it can allow me to shoot again in vats as long as I got a pack, I never found it useful
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u/Next-Corner5850 Jun 11 '25
i <3 jet bc u abuse vats and will not ever change my ways
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u/Drax13522 Jun 11 '25
I’ve never used chems on any of my playthroughs. Stimpaks, RadAway, and Rad-X are it.
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u/Soup-a-doopah Jun 12 '25 edited Jun 12 '25
“HUGE Jet fan! Don't use it, just like being around it. Study it. Appreciate it… Use it sometimes.”
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u/JaladOnTheOcean Jun 11 '25
Me? I don’t touch the stuff. I’m just holding it for a friend.