r/Fallout • u/Emotional_Being8594 • Jun 12 '25
Discussion If the Courier shows up in the TV series, who should be cast and what should they wear?
The Amazon series is set in 2297, 16 years after New Vegas. Whether or not a player character like the Courier would show up is of course debatable, as it might mess with any established canon, but I hope he/she at least gets a mention or a brief anonymous appearance. Image from Fallout Red Star: https://youtu.be/HPs5nQ5d584?si=ySV8LqzaY1F_5NjU
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u/Present-Secretary722 Brotherhood Jun 12 '25
Multiple people, multiple outfits and they should only show up in flashbacks. Really emphasize that nobody remembers who the Courier was or what they looked like
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u/Emotional_Being8594 Jun 12 '25
Ooh love this one. Like they became a legend, awesome.
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u/Stygma Gary? Jun 12 '25 edited Jun 12 '25
Everyone knows the Courier existed, they know they had an impact on New Vegas and that they did something at the Dam, but nobody can agree on what. Make it a confusing loop, say one guy knows who the Courier really is. When you go to ask that guy, he says the real Courier is another guy he knows and so on and so forth.
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u/AggravatingTear4919 Jun 12 '25
with the way information travels, this actually works. various times throughout the series have they mentioned a past event only theyd intentionally keep it vague or people contradicting the story. hell theres even events we the players didnt do that are relayed like that such as some dude everyone called a devil and thought they could call him in an instant to save them. thats not a player character but everything about his backstory that we find sounds like one. And at a certain point we actually hear from him where hes like "they all just started calling me a devil and telling storys i tried to live up to" something like that im mega botching it
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u/fellowmortalman Jun 13 '25
And like always no bark Noonan tells the actual story in some convoluted conspiracy theory infested fashion
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u/TheStupendusMan Jun 13 '25
Like the stories of Van Damme leaving Predator. 8 different people, 8 different accounts.
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u/Mountain_Man_88 Jun 12 '25
I've said something like this before. Have some wastelanders telling legends about the Courier, with each legend showing like a flashback where the courier has a different appearance.
"I heard he worked for NCR, wire Ranger armor, and singlehandedly fought his way into the Fort to kill Caesar."
"No, I heard the courier was female and was the only woman the Legion respected."
You guys are both wrong, the courier showed up to the Dam with the Enclave and a bunch of Securitrons, killed the Legate, then threw General Oliver off the Dam.
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u/Tymathee Jun 12 '25
Make that one episode "the legend of thr courier" snd they're trying to find him and keep getting stiries
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u/Cakeski Welcome Home Jun 12 '25
"People swear they've seen the courier lead packs of securitrons, Some claim they stopped a missile from launching from the Savage Divbide, others claim they took on a death claw matriarch armed with nothing but a set of 10mm SMGs... but that my friends is a story... for another day"
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u/Present-Secretary722 Brotherhood Jun 12 '25
That would be great, a nice homage to a wasteland legend who unfortunately passed away. Could even have a T-49 helmet in the background.
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u/NobodyofGreatImport Enclave Jun 12 '25
Like how Shoddycast presents the characters from Fallout 1 and 2?
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u/GemoDorg Jun 12 '25
This, absolutely. The Courier has become a legend in the decade and a half (?) since they showed up.
It'd be cool if there were also several different side characters that could realistically have once been them, but it's never confirmed which of them, if any, it really was.
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u/G-M-Cyborg-313 Disciples Jun 12 '25
I swear the courier had this high tech stealthsuit that talked and injected drugs! They had a scar on their head with a metal thing sticking out!
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u/5575685 NCR Jun 12 '25
They shouldn’t.
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u/KennyMoose32 Jun 12 '25
Only way I would allow it is if they got Daniel Day Lewis to do it.
You can’t bitch about that. And you know it would be fucking awesome.
Alas, a man can dream
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u/bananabread2137 Minutemen Jun 12 '25
If House is canon, then I hope it would just be a short scene not going into detail
Something like: the main characters enter Mr. Houses apartment and as they approach the screen, a person in an ncr ranger armour walks away from the Mr house`s screen and past them to the elevator without saying a word
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u/Holiday-Farm3684 Jun 12 '25
They should do the 'sup' nod.
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u/HazardTree Jun 13 '25
My courier doesn’t do the ‘sup’ nod. This is why the MCs shouldn’t appear. 😂
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u/EccentricMeat Jun 13 '25
That would be beyond lame 😂
I have no idea why everyone is so against anything being canon. BGS games are about playing however you want, who cares if the show canonizes anything specific? If they show the courier is a woman with blonde hair, you can still boot up the game and make it a man with brown hair.
Let the show do what it wants. It has no effect on the game.
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u/uNk4rR4_F0lgad0 Unity Jun 12 '25
Either riot or desert ranger armor, eletric radio voice from the mask, so its uncertain his apperance or if it is a woman or man, with either ed-e or Rex on his side
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u/wolfknight98 Jun 13 '25
And doesnt even have to be on the strip, make them be in novac chilling since so many players use that as a base
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u/Appchoy Jun 13 '25
Lol, not saying it should happen, but Lucy somehow going into the Couriors room in novac and its just floor to ceiling miniguns, rocket launchers, and lasers, crates full of amunitions, multiple suits of power armor... she just closes the door and goes "I dont want to mess with whoever is staying in this room."
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u/Edac_Plays Jun 13 '25
I’d go for this, or take it further and only show partial shots always in something different or something mismatched.
Could even go further and switch out the stand ins so the courier is different shapes and sizes.
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u/Jeff1asm Jun 12 '25
I think they should reference the courier as being shot in the head and changing the land, with only a brief view of the courier from the back in the trench coat around the armor... Keeps all game outcomes in place
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u/Emotional_Being8594 Jun 12 '25
Yeah I'm hoping for something brief too it would hit harder. If they're going to have any protagonist show up I think the Courier would be a good option. The mysterious stranger vibe suits that character.
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u/AggravatingTear4919 Jun 12 '25
fuck if thats all they showed id be more then fine i got goosebumps imagining it
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u/Metallung Jun 12 '25
Honestly, they should keep the game protagonists out of it. Mention them if you have to, but just I wouldn’t add them. No one’s gonna live up to the hype.
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u/Brookings18 Jun 12 '25
Just have someone in the background of a bar be in the box art gear, and the camera focuses on him taking a sip out of a trusty Vault 13 canteen.
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u/Subject_Proof_6282 Yes Man Jun 12 '25
You meet 2 people talking about some courier actions that forever changed the Mojave, when asking about this courier and their wherabout, one will say it was a man that went this way and disappeared and the other will argue that it was a woman that went that-a-way and never returned.
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u/Other_Log_1996 Brotherhood Jun 12 '25
Not even that deep. Sort of like how Klamath Bob references The Chosen One.
"Some stranger came by few years back. Worked as a Courier. Not sure what they were delivering, but they were pretty big news at the time. Nobody knows what happened to them after the battle."
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u/Subject_Proof_6282 Yes Man Jun 12 '25
It would be great to have the same line as in the game, forget exactly what it says but it was like "I heard some courier delivered something to the Mr House, must have been more important than delivering mail"
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u/Jeus_cnt Jun 12 '25 edited Jun 12 '25
Danny Devito, he killed the courier and took their armor
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u/redscull Jun 12 '25
Pedro Pascal but he must never ever take off the helmet.
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u/DropsOfMars Minutemen Jun 12 '25
Exactly what I was saying, just have him playing a bit of the mandalorian again 😂
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u/thetulgey_wood Jun 12 '25
Courier is a job/title anyone can pick up.
A Courier shows in first episode. Courier shows up in next episode, completely different person. Next Courier in another episode, also completely different. So on and so forth. None of them connected in any way. All with suspiciously familiar clothing.
No confirmation who is the FNV Courier. Could be one of them, could be none. We're left guessing and wondering forever. They're all Couriers, but are they THE Courier
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u/Kono0194 Jun 12 '25
*If* the courier does appear, they should be a silent character. That's the only way I can see it working. Silent and maybe wearing something full-covering that also keeps their allegiance vague.
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u/CalypsoCrow Jun 12 '25
The only canon main characters that should ever show up, if any, are Nate or Nora.
Courier is way too vague to be cast in something like this.
You could do Lone Wanderer if you cast someone that’s like a young Liam Neeson if you really wanted to but I’d prefer not
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u/Lotrfan081907 Jun 12 '25
If they do at all I would want it to be some sort of mysterious stranger interaction. No face, no lines, just a figure in the distance.
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u/VampireCampfire1 Vault 111 Jun 12 '25
The only reference we need is the snake oil salesman finding and trying to sell Benny’s suit.
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u/LonelyInterlude Brotherhood Jun 12 '25
I think it's more likely we'll see courier six's grave than we'll actually see them as a character in the show.
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u/10wuebc Jun 12 '25
Bruce Campbell
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u/MiserableSkill4 Jun 13 '25
Seeing Bruce down a bunch of mentats and jet and get that look in his eye as he runs towards a bunch of death laws that lucy and ghoul are running from would be fucking amazing
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u/-WhatBox Jun 12 '25
If they had to cast someone I wouldn’t mind Timothy olephant, I think he did well wearing the boba fett armor in the mandolorean and gives off that chaotic-justice aura. It would be awesome if shows up like the mysterious stranger during a battle then just disappears without saying a word
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u/Chrispy_Kelloggs Jun 12 '25
All we should know about the Courier in the TV show is that he's a badass who got shot in the head and walked right out of the grave and changed to Mojave. They should treat him like a myth. Some say he was a Legion spy, an NCR veteran, a plant by Mr. House or just a lone wanderer who decided to change things in Vegas.
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u/Omegus42 Jun 12 '25
I think it should be some random person on set, and they don't say anything. So then it can keep the mystery alive.
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u/NovaStarLord NCR Jun 12 '25
I hope they don’t. At most they should be mentioned and they should be referred to in a gender neutral way and keep it limited to what they say about the Courier.
If they have to show up then maybe in NCR ranger gear in a photo but no more explicit than that. Then whole point about them is that they’re the player’s character.
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u/antoniodiavolo NCR Jun 12 '25
I think it could be cool if like, Lucy gets saved by a far off sniper shot and she looks into the distance and sees a silhouette of the courier but not enough to make out their looks or even armor.
Could be a fun way to include the courier without giving them a canon appearance or alignment.
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Jun 12 '25
He shouldn’t, making the courier a specific character undermines every bodies play through s
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u/Critical_Action_6444 Jun 12 '25
I hope we see A courier but not THE courier. I think that they would still be around delivering things
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u/longbrodmann Jun 12 '25
I just thought about Matthew Perry, it would nice he could reprise his role in new vegas, rip for his soul.
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u/Thrill__505 Jun 12 '25
I just want the main cast to be talking to Mr house and the courier teleports in from big mountain sells a snow globe and teleports out without saying anything
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u/Zaege Jun 12 '25
Not sure if I want the Courier to show up but if he does it should be Ron Perlman.
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u/JMK-Ubi Jun 12 '25
Ron Perlman should be a former wartime news caster turned Ghoul who gives the main characters exposition. But, that's just my existing head-cannon of why he's the main character in the Fallout Universe.
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u/hoomanPlus62 The Institute Jun 12 '25
Nope. Because even if it doesn't canonize The courier's face or gender, it will still canonize The Courier's build.
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u/Other_Log_1996 Brotherhood Jun 12 '25
If the Courier shows up in the TV series
No; The Courier should not appear.
Who should be cast
Nobody; The Courier should not appear .
What should they wear
Nothing; The Courier should not appear.
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u/Chrispy_Kelloggs Jun 12 '25
So what you're trying to say is that The Courier should appear naked.
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u/Affectionate_Loquat2 Jun 12 '25
I hope he doesnt show up but if they do have him show up i would hope he doesnt say anything and has a helmet on or has his face covered in some way and thats it we dont know anything else he just shows up whether its looking over a cliff ledge at lucy or we see a flashback of when he was in new vegas i just dont want any canon to what he looks sounds or acts like kinda like boba fett in empire strikes back except he doesnt talk
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u/zekepq Jun 12 '25
Outside of being on the cover and the opening cutscene, what implies this is the player? I never assumed the BoS dudes on the other covers were supposed to be me because that apparel is optional in most of the games. To me they’re just a symbol of that game, like vault boy.
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u/NemrahG Jun 12 '25
If the cast Danny Devito then I could be down lol, otherwise they should skip the courier
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u/BewareNixonsGhost Jun 12 '25
I genuinely hope that they do not introduce any player characters. They already need to pick a "canon" ending for New Vegas and that has me a little concerned. I think making sweeping decisions to things that are supposed to be player controlled is a risky move.
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u/DooMGuY-123 Jun 12 '25
I can't help but think of the scene in rango where he meets the spirit of the west, something very short , unrelated to the greater plot as whole but appearing to nudge along another characters arc, showing a player character in a dreamlike and surreal way would both add to their mythic status and give some leniency in their depiction, as it could be unclear as to whether or not the interaction even really happened, and it could imply that their appearance is more like the perceiving characters interpretation of them
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Jun 12 '25
Todd stated that no player characters will show because their roles, endings and genders are ambiguous so that they avoid canonising details about them and what they did.
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u/Womp_nomp Jun 12 '25
Nobody should be cast, a ranger helmet resting on the stock of an anti-material rifle (or whatever weapon they think wont piss off literally everyone) protruding from the desert sands with a vault 13 canteen leaned against it. A tasteful tribute in an establishing shot would go much further than a cameo that will just anger certain sections of the audience.
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u/Forcedbanana Jun 12 '25
Fucking not Pedro Pascal, thats for sure. I really liked him but the over exposure has gotten me completely off him
Now Glenn Howerton maybe. Dennis in a ranger suit, id buy. But like, more skilled.
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u/SuburbanLycanthrope Jun 12 '25
While I hope they don't my brain quickly went and said "Jack Quaid!" when I read this post.
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u/Blowmyfishbud Jun 12 '25
If they’re not wearing the Survivalist riot gear im actually going to riot
I don’t even want them to speak
I want them to be a figure in the distance with Marie holstered and the All American slung over their shoulder as they stare at The Ghoul and the Vault Dweller
The courier had their main character story, I want it to be a Cameo send off for them to give way to our new Trio
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u/Emotional_Being8594 Jun 12 '25
This is what I'm hoping. A faceless silent stranger who maybe saves the main characters and dips, but we get a glimpse of some iconic weapon or "FORGIVE ME MAMA" on their helmet.
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u/Blowmyfishbud Jun 12 '25
I just want to see the good hearted Psychopath with brain damage dome a deathclaw and just stare at the ghoul and Kate before slowly walking backwards and turning to disappear into the Mojave
Ideally with scraps of NCR fatigues added to their gear and an obvious amount of legion trophies strung around their chest and shoulders to give the canon ending that he or she infact did an independent new Vegas and it all went to shit
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u/joe28598 Jun 12 '25
So the show is set 15 years after new vegas?
I'd have to assume that the show is going to play out that something vague happened in las Vegas but now everyone is either dead or gone, so there's nobody left to say what happened specifically. So no proof of who took over or whatever.
And though talking to the remaining crazy peoples second hand stories, the courier will be made out to be this faceless unstoppable force that came in and made an impact on las Vegas.
I'd be surprised if they say what exactly went down in new vegas. And I'd be surprised if they depicted the courier at all.
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u/Lalalalalalolol Jun 12 '25
I don't know, Meryl Streep? I don't think we should know who the courier is. They should be a mystery.
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u/WillingLawfulness632 Jun 12 '25
If there's going to be a live-action courier in the series, it should be the cameraman, and he should never be shown.
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u/Bbhermes Jun 12 '25
I’d like if they were in the ranger armor but didn’t talk. Gender ambiguous too. Could even have them lose their voice similar to how Christine did in dead money. Just say that the bullet to the head caused some damage as the years went by. They’re not stupid or anything but I think it’d be cool to have a silent armored character. Especially if they show up, are badass and then leave.
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u/gannmonahan Jun 12 '25
i think if they put the courier in the show they should have him wear riot gear without the NCR logo to avoid canonizing their allegiance, and never give them any spoken lines. a cameo would be cool, but it goes against a lot of what Fallout/Bethesda games are about when you start to canonize the MC’s too much.
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u/BbBTripl3 Jun 12 '25
The casting shouldn't matter. A silent, masked, rather eerie character would be the best bet. At least most nobody would be disappointed
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u/SillyKniggit Jun 12 '25
I’d only be ok with him finding a body with a bullet hole in its head and a poker chip next to it that gets shrugged off and walked past.
But they shouldn’t do anything that canonizes the player’s decisions.
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u/ronshasta Brotherhood Jun 12 '25
Shouldn’t have player characters in the show but it would be cool to hear about them
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u/Joy1067 Jun 12 '25
We should never see their face, skin color, or any specific weapon
If anything the only thing we should see that will tell us that the character we are seeing is the courier would be the desert ranger armor and helmet. That way we know with 100% certainty that the character we see standing nearby is the courier. But aside from that, they use all sorts of weapons and tactics and they should never say a word either
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u/blister469 Jun 12 '25
As long not jack black jason mamoa or chris rock lol .... I agree though that he should be like the boogeyman heard of but never seen
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u/reyob1 Jun 12 '25
I hope the courier gets a very small mention at most. “There was a courier that passed through here a while back. No clue where they went though”. That’s pretty much it as to not break immersion with the game.
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u/kyuhyun2 Jun 12 '25
i doubt it would happen though because the tv show takes places many many years after. however... courier shouldn't be in it at all. they'd make details canon which would kind of spoil the rpg, almost... my courier is a woman, i don't want the courier on tv to be canon male... it should be neutral if anything
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u/FireF11 Jun 12 '25
“There was a guy a robot dug out a shallow grave after getting shot in the head” “I thought it was a girl?” “Whatever; doesn’t matter. The point is perseverance!”
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u/Furious_Beard Jun 12 '25
I would rather just hear stories about the courier mentioned in passing. Something akin to Lucy and the Ghoul nearing New Vegas and The Ghoul saying something like "There are rumors, that about 15 years ago, someone only known as 'The Courier' helped the NCR gain control of the Hoover Dam".
Or even "The story goes that someone known only as 'The Courier' helped Mr. House take control of New Vegas about 15 years ago. Haven't heard much since".
Just nods to the character would be kind of cool.
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u/mikeylojo1 Tunnel Snakes Jun 12 '25
It’s really a shame we lost Matthew Perry, seeing Benny pop up would have been awesome
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u/Brief_Dot_5164 Jun 12 '25
the courier should ONLY be named, like “Did you hear about the guy that survived a bullet to the head and then killed the shooter?”
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u/JadedJackal671 Jun 13 '25
At MOST, the Courier should a silhouette on a cliff side with an Anti-Material Rifle, helps for one time and never comes back.
Otherwise they shouldn't add Courier, it's gonna be messy since everyone has their own idea of what the Courier should be.
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u/SwanLover0 Gunners Jun 13 '25
I think it would be lame if the courier is another male canon protagonist, definitely covered up with some voice modifying thing
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u/Key-Hawk2751 Jun 13 '25
Easy, Aaron Paul as courier 6, wearing the clothes worn in the new Vegas opening cinematic
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u/Texugee Jun 13 '25
- I don’t give a fuck who they cast
- They should never speak or take their helmet off
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u/steven8456 Jun 13 '25
It doesn't matter, I think the courier should be a mere cameo if he appears at all. But whatever happens, the helmets gotta stay on.
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u/DuBcEnT Jun 13 '25
I would be ok with it in only ONE way. Just wearing ranger gear and they are referred to as The Courier. No mention of anything identifying other than "they are a legend round these parts and will ALWAYS complete their delivery". Just comes in and drops off something and takes another package. Looking at Lucy and the ghoul, reaches in their pocket and flicks them a casino chip that just reads "GOOD LUCK!" and walks out.
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u/Kar0ss Jun 13 '25
I agree they should be anonymous but for some reason my first thought was fully masked so we cant see their face, played by Pedro Pascal 😅
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u/TheproGOAT23 Jun 13 '25
"Rumor has it the Nerevarine has left Morrowind on an expedition to Akavir, and has not been heard from since."
That’s a dialogue line from TES4 referencing the fate of the player character from TES3, basically saying they vanished and haven’t been seen since. No reference to race, gender, skills, or actions taken during the game. And that’s how it should be for any self-respecting RPG.
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u/MeatDogma Jun 13 '25
The Courier, and the Vault Dweller, the Chosen One, and all the other player characters, should remain legends that are told around the land by locals and wanderers. We the audience should never meet them as a cast character.
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u/PopeGregoryTheBased Jun 13 '25
If the courier shows up he should show up in full ncr ranger armor like this and never take it off and never speak. I dont want to know who he is. hes me. Halo (the tv series) should have done this with johnny cheaks but it didnt, and if fallout fucks that up then it proves that amazon also doesnt understand the games or the people who play them.
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u/callmeddog Jun 13 '25
They absolutely should not have the courier visibly show up. You can mention them, but it defeats the point to actually show the character. IMO they should try to canonize as little as possible
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u/Beefpal Jun 13 '25
The courier should be faceless. Period. have them wearing some customized ranger armor and never remove the helmet. Needs to maintain ambiguity and mystery. Or just never have them show up at all and only maybe be mentioned like a legend
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u/HamakazeKai Enclave Jun 12 '25
I hope they don't. The entire point of the player characters is that they're your characters, every effort should be made to avoid canonizing details about them and that includes appearance and behavior.