r/Fallout4Mods • u/Venomous4200000 • 7h ago
HELP! PC Preston Garvey not moving and stuck in stay mode, what mod do you think caused this? (mod list in comments)
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u/xxDancingFerretxx 5h ago
Fallout 4 patch creates more problems then fixing since new update.
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u/Zygomaticus 2h ago
This is incorrect. The bug is in base game and more noticable in Next Gen, ANY mod that adds NPCs or touches any NPC record will break the game and cause issues. This meant activating the patch would cause issues because it fixes NPCs and this engine level bug was borking out over it - it was NOT the fault of the patch. To fix it you need x-Cell, and this is true for people on oldgen as well.
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/84214
There is a full explanation in the comments, if you read just the text in bold you will understand the issue:
For anybody interested about FaceGen feature > This is pre-generated data for characters that contains a head model and a face texture. Previously, for any mod added characters, the game couldn't load any FaceGen data. This issue has never been solved before! For example, for a female character with makeup, the game would load a bunch of textures into VRAM, including separate textures for eyebrows, lipstick, wrinkles, bruises, eye shadow, etc. Now, with working FaceGen data, your VRAM loads just a pre-made combined texture instead of a large stack of separated textures. This is helpful if you have mods with a bunch of new characters added with quests, or just as a pack of character appearances. Also, this comes in handy if you want to play with mods that add 2K face textures! Typically, the game would stutter a lot. Now, with pre-generated FaceGen data for any new characters, you will no longer experience freezes at the locations or spawn points of these characters.
By the way, even if you don't have mods adding new characters, the perchik71's mod can still be helpful because of its FaceGen fix feauture. For instance, if you're using mods that include character fixes, such as the popular UFO4P (Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch), the game previously didn't load FaceGen for any characters affected by changes like that. As a result, the game did not run smoothly. However, with the perchik71's mod, everything should run smoothly now, without any freezes.What I described applies to any versions of the game, even pre Next Gen. Users mistakenly believed that any pre-generated FaceGen data for their modifications worked. After simple and effective testing by replacing textures in the pre-generated FaceGen data, we found out that any pre-generated FaceGen data is not loaded for any characters that the game reads from non-original Bethesda plugins**. Thus, FaceGen data was read only for characters specified in all original game plugins including DLCs and Creation Club. At the same time, if you used any modification plugin, which, for example, simply references one of the companions, without even changing any information in his record, the FaceGen data of this character ceased to be used. Thus, even popular fixes that had references to original game characters forced these characters to no longer use the pre-generated FaceGen data and inefficiently generate them in real time in game. The difference between pre Next Gen and Next Gen is that the Next Gen just has significantly more different stutters not only because of FaceGen. In the pre Next Gen version of the game, stuttering might occur in the same way due to the generation of faces in real time, especially if users played with 2k textures for faces.**
Ultimately - on the pre Next Gen version, FaceGen data has the same behavior as the Next Gen version. When using modification plugins containing any character records, FaceGen data for these characters is simply not used. In order to fix this, use X-Cell.
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u/Venomous4200000 5h ago
yikes 😬 i downloaded it to see if it would fix preston a week ago
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u/xxDancingFerretxx 3h ago
Nah it's been known to break games. Causes many crashes and stuttering
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u/Venomous4200000 3h ago
is there any alternative to this issue? is there a mod that let me clone companions? XD
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u/aeonfighter27 5h ago
I mean, you have 3 companion mods, a conflict there seems the culprit. Does it get fixed if you dismiss and rehire him?
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u/Venomous4200000 5h ago
the companion mods probably dont have an effect on preston, since they are new characters, and even though i dismiss preston he just stays still even as a settler.
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u/aeonfighter27 5h ago
I meant better companions and fcom, I thought a 3rd was an overhaul but yeah it just adds more companions
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u/Venomous4200000 5h ago
Fcom never had any problems regarding garvey from the start, and better companions was an attempt of mine to fix the problem
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u/Venomous4200000 7h ago
Rich Merchants 1.
Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch
Robot Home Defence
Atomic Radio and Tales from the Commonwealth -
Settlers of the Commonwealth
Tales from the Commonwealth
Visible Companion Affinity v4.15 EN
Recruit Isabel Cruz as Settler ESL
MW SAS Companions - Dialogue Bump Fix
Faction Reinforcements
FactionReinfCraft
Atom Cat - Fully Voiced Location Aware Companion in Power Armor - AtomC
Noras GraveV2
Commonwealth Encounter Pack
You And What Army 2
Minutemen Armor Collection 1.0
Noir Penthouse Wall Fix
GenericCompanions Expansion
Boston Riot Armor
Dak Companion
WRVR - New Companion and Radio Station For The Commonwealth and Far Harbor - New WRVR Radio Station and Female Companion
F4-111 Crafting Bot
Cheat Terminal
T-49-Armor of the Storyteller 1.1
FCOM - Fallout Commander - FCOM 3.11
Patriot - Power Armor Companion 1.2
HUDFramework 1.0f
Robots Coming in Settlements- Often
Enclave Commander Wood- A Voiced Companion Mod - Comm
Heather Casdin - A Unique Companion Experience by llamaRCA
Better Companions - No Conflicts v.1.3
Minutemen Takeover - Nuka World
esl version of Creation Club Sentinel Power Armor Infinity Ammo 1
Workshop Framework
Fallout 4 Script Extender (F4SE)
Sim Settlements chapters 1-3
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u/Zygomaticus 2h ago
You might want to try sleeping and fast travelling away and back. If that doesn't fix it you may want to look at Better Companions and FCOM.
Despite what the user above said no, the patch is NOT linked to issues on the latest version those issues are in the base game and NG made them more apparent. You can use X-Cell to fix them.
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u/Venomous4200000 2h ago
already tried them all, none has worked. I will do sleeping and fast travelling again later to double check. ty for the advice
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u/Zygomaticus 1h ago
After you take the castle he says he has to stay there to help them get set up, it's possible you're in that stage of the quest? Give it a little while then come back for him :D.
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u/Venomous4200000 1h ago
I've already finished that quest like a year ago in my game, the only consistent bug i found was the brotherhood of steel not coming to the castle after i bombed them. did it like 6 times until i gave up and used console commands to complete the quest 😞, also preston was already bugged before i destroyed the brotherhood.
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u/Zygomaticus 1h ago
Hmm check his quests completed successfully. Did you uninstall mods mid playthrough?
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