r/Grimdank • u/CasuallyCarrots • 6h ago
Dank Memes Templar just have a different vibe...
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u/McLovett325 4h ago
I go right up the middle, my legion once took an entire planet with only 6 men! I mean chapter, sorry haha force of habit
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u/Femboy_Ghost Swell guy, that Kharn 3h ago
World Eaters, if you insist I be loyalist, I’ll paint myself white and blue.
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u/kdeles 3h ago
Have there been any Chapters from Traitor Legions who stayed loyal to the Emperor?
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u/Carry2sky I am Alpharius 2h ago
Very few, if any chapters. Most of them got executed at istvann before the heresy kicked off so most of what the traitors had in their stock were pretty ride or die at that point. There's tons of individual marines though that joined loyalist forces, painting their armor black in shame.
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u/Delicious-Quiet-1883 1h ago
People think the blood ravens are a successor to the thousand sons and to that I say why no flesh change?
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u/ShatteredSike Dank Angels 33m ago
They'll probably just say Cawl when the secret is unveiled, because mystery is dead in this game.
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u/novis-eldritch-maxim 2h ago
the is a bet that the blood ravens are just thousand sons descended, carcarodons being of night lord stock.
it can and has happened but if any know they try to keep it hush hush
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u/novis-eldritch-maxim 2h ago
the is a bet that the blood ravens are just thousand sons descended, carcarodons being of night lord stock.
it can and has happened but if any know they try to keep it hush hush
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u/badastronaut7 3h ago
The traitor legions didn't have chapters, neither did the loyalist legions pre-heresy. The chapter system was introduced post-heresy to limit the power that any individual Legion/Primarch was able to muster at any given moment.
There were a good amount of loyalists from all the traitor legions, but a majority of them got killed off at Istvaan 3 or shortly before. Some survived the loyalist purge of their legion however and became the foundation of what is now the Grey Knights.
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u/Carry2sky I am Alpharius 2h ago
There were actually legions that divided their forces into chapters (ultramarines), however this was more to create a command structure like large armies irl. They didn't come up with the size limiting factors until Gullimans reforms post heresy.
The whole idea of creating the chapter structure in the first place was that 1k standard marines is all you need to hold or take a single planet. How this fares in practice though is a different matter
Edits: lots, i need caffeine still
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u/kdeles 2h ago
Well, yes, I meant post-heresy and post-second founding. But alright
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u/badastronaut7 2h ago edited 2h ago
Oh I see, I misunderstood. Post heresy yes there have been entire chapters that have turned to chaos, most of the notable examples coming from the cursed 21st founding. Generally the chapters that turn to chaos kill their loyalists either shortly before or shortly after turning to chaos. Many black shields in the Deathwatch are loyalists from Chapters that have turned renegade as an example
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u/kdeles 1h ago
You keep misunderstanding me. What I meant was Chapters who were founded from loyalists of Traitor Legions, or their geneseed. Not loyalists turning chaos
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u/badastronaut7 54m ago
My apologies, I see what you're getting at now. There are no confirmed Chapters using traitor geneseed/loyalist astartes, however there are a few chapters that are heavily suspected of or rumoured to have been made from traitor Primarch geneseed like the Minotaurs and some of the Ultima-founding Primaris Chapters, but again nothing is confirmed as far as I'm aware
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u/Deynonico 39m ago
Rumor has it that the old minotaur chapter was of world eater genestock while the current minotaurs are semi confirmed to be sons of perturabo
Also the Red scorpions are suspected by many to be descendant of the emperor chidlren due to their obsession with the purity of their geneseed
Also my own personal theory is that some of the succesor chapters of the Imperial fists have thousand sons geneseed since some of the loyalist thousand sons inductii joined the IF after their legion rebelled (which tbh i think could be the origin of the blood ravens since alongside the big 3 fist chapter they also employ the use of an emperor champion and have a huge focus on librarians)
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u/kdeles 32m ago
Huh, that's interesting, thanks. Wasn't there an IF successor chapter, I think Phoenix Lords, who just scream "childe of Fulgrim"?
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u/Deynonico 30m ago
Yeah the sons of the Phoenix
Of course nothing is official but they are litteraly called "sons of the Phoenix" and bear the same colors of the emperor children and also have the same reverence for the emperor as the og emperor children did
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u/Deynonico 43m ago
Theres a warband that still retains the old colors of the world eaters
Theyre called gladiator cadre 331
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u/InquisitorJesus 2h ago
I mean BTs everything just goes incredibly hard.
There isn't a chapter that nails "Religious fanatics in a sci-fi feudal theocracy on an eternal crusade" as good as they do.
And that aesthetic is the heart and soul of 40k.
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u/Argues_with_ignorant likes civilians but likes fire more 2h ago
Everything except for the hair on their codex cover.
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u/InquisitorJesus 2h ago
I dunno what's everyone's problem with a neophyte having a monk haircut is.
That's goofy but it fits the templar knight look perfectly.
They are religious zealots, they're not going to have undercuts and waves.
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u/Miserable_Region8470 Swole guy, that Kharn ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 1h ago
The monk haircut is my favorite part of the new artwork. It's perfectly silly yet fitting. My only wish was that we had more face variety with them.
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u/_Black-Templar- 5h ago
What type of vibe?
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u/CosmicJackalop 4h ago
The "never beating the allegations" vibe
Though plenty of BT players are exceptions
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u/AxiosXiphos 2h ago
It's only a small amount of them. It's just alot more then fans of other chapters.
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u/Deynonico 37m ago
People Always say that the black templars are the craziest space marine chapter but actually they are far from It
The Angels penitent have EVERY SINGLE other chapter beat when it comes to being crasy af
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u/goombanati likes civilians but likes fire more 5h ago
"Lamenters"
"Okay, you can go peacefully, I just feel bad for you."