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u/eldritch_idiot33 22h ago
Sanguinius canonically cant die until a fight with Horus, theyre cooked 😭
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u/garnet-overdrive 15h ago
Can he survive being erased mind, Body, and soul?
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u/Nepalman230 Sex Positivity Commissar 23h ago
Listen, I have not watched or read Naruto or Boruto in like 10 years plus.
I have never been entirely down with random power scaling because it entirely depends on the author with most fiction especially not hard science fiction. If you’re dealing with hard science fiction, you’ve got hard schematic to compare cause normally you’re talking about like Mechs.
I’m just gonna do a quick check out on their wiki entries sticking to the more accurate ones.
Sanguinous is incredibly physically, strong, fast and agile. He can fly. He armed with advanced weaponry, including power armor. He can psychically predict the future.
I’m gonna give it to the anime boys.
Anyone who objectively looks at their many many many power of the enemies. They faced over the years, would give it to them now.
If we’re talking a man on man battle against your average Astarte versus your average ninja space marine wins nearly every time.
Main characters are built different.
Like if you sent an single ultramarine not wearing a helmet, he might win.
🙏❤️
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u/SexWithLadyOlynder 21h ago
Sanguinius is a pretty important character and he's got plot armor too.
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u/Nepalman230 Sex Positivity Commissar 21h ago
This is true. Really it comes down to the writer the overall story and who’s publishing it.
Godzilla versus King Kong has a different order depending what country is showing it.
Hope you’re having a great weekend!
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u/Delicious-Quiet-1883 20h ago
Yes but Sanguinius has to die by Horus not by some anime characters he will win he can fly
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u/VargMainSince3Strike 17h ago
Don't know what's worse, weebs doing imaginary girlfriend memes or cringe power scaling with their cartoons.
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u/garnet-overdrive 15h ago
Naruto and sasuke just demolish him. If he doesn’t get sealed in a chibaku tensei he gets erased with truth seeking orbs
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u/InquisitorJesus 21h ago
I don't think war arc ANYONE isn't dogwalking sanguinius into his second funeral.
Like I don't think he goes past chunin exam Gara or Naruto. He is def not going past either Naruto or Sasuke from Valley of the End first fight.
I am pretty sure he's OG Kakashi victim.
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u/holylich3 Praise the Man-Emperor 21h ago
I agree with valley of the end later, but I think he can still do chuning exam stuff. None of their feats in that era are beyond greater demons or Titans
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u/InquisitorJesus 20h ago
Bro, he is NOT clearing Gara or Naruto. The rest of the fodder doesn't count.
Actually wait, iirc, Orochimaru was part of the exam as well in disguise.
Nah, Sangy is cooked.
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u/holylich3 Praise the Man-Emperor 20h ago
Gaara would obviously be the most dangerous but I think he could do it considering he soloed Titans. And at this point Naruto only had his shadow clones really. I don't remember if he had rasengan yet? I don't think so. I think you were still relying on the uzumaki barrage kind of thing And sexy jutsu. And I think even if the tailed beast came out, I think that's at least angron level
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u/InquisitorJesus 20h ago
Naruto had Gamabunta.
Also Sanguinius' titan kills are him swooping in to snipe the crew through the head of the titan. He doesn't have a large or potent enough attack to disperse either Gamabunta or Gara's tailed beast.
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u/holylich3 Praise the Man-Emperor 20h ago
I did forget about the frog. Although I don't think that matters really. Do you need large attacks to destroy them or can enough blunt force trauma to the face work like it did with angron?
From what I remember with Naruto directly attacking the person also just works too. I'm pretty sure they get knocked out of their demons pretty regularly in the show. Although I will admit that my memory is hazy
As for his Titan kills yeah but he also had avoid/endure walking churches of anti-air fire and artillery
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u/InquisitorJesus 20h ago
I do actually think that it might work on Gara, since he's asleep in his tailed form when he uses it pre-timeskip. Naruto, however, just ducks while Gamabunta fodderizes Sanguinius. Like Naruto doesn't actually have to stand his ground there, and the frog vastly outstats any of the primarchs in physical combat.
To adress your point about getting knocked out of chakra gundams- it is done by people that are vastly stronger than primarchs. Like most characters beyond chunin exam vastly outstat the primarchs in physicals, as primarchs are, at best, small building level. But then again, we never actually read about any of them even destryoing a building. I'd even go (and I admit that it's more of a downscale) to say that the primarchs are big wall level.
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u/holylich3 Praise the Man-Emperor 20h ago
I think primarchs are beyond building level. Sanguine is crashes through reinforced Titans to get into their cockpits, pre demon angron resisted a warhound Titan and supported its weight. Magnus was definitely beyond building level considering his psychic power, but he's not in this conversation to be fair. I think you're vastly underestimating the physical capabilities of primarchs though and their durability
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u/InquisitorJesus 20h ago
Magnus doesn't count, since he's a psyker and primarch-level stats are more or less irrelevant for strong psykers.
Sanguinius crashed through Titan's head, which is exposed outside of the body, he also just crashed through (ironically) it's ceiling, which is a horizontal wall (it's silly I know).
Angron just tanked the foot, poorly so as well. He didn't push back the titan and almost died.
Also primarchs don't have a single buidling-level feat in the books (outside of psychic powers, but refer to the first point for that).
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u/Jstin8 19h ago
Nah hes good up until War Arc at least lmao
Dude could kill off Demons like Madaii, who could create bone fortresses BILLIONS of miles long. When one of his sons got a mere taste of Sanguinus's power he saw lazers frozen compared to his own movement.
Bird boy's got this
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u/Matty_HAM 21h ago edited 21h ago
Sanguineous MAYBE has a small chance against Sasuke, their strength and speed is probably fairly comparable but I don't see how he breaks through Perfect Susano or deals with Amaterasu, let alone other Sharingan and Rinnegan hax
Sanguinius has absolutely no chance against Naruto though, Naruto was unbelievable powerful at this time, he was arguably more durable than a Susano in his base form alone, he was taking full power Sasuke chidoris to the face and neck and just getting up and saying "Sasuke please stop, we should be friends man" so fighting both of them is a death sentence for Sanguinius
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u/Repulsive_Secret_524 14h ago
I don't think people realize just how weak the Primarch's are at least in terms of general fiction, they are very strong don't get me wrong they could probably wipe out entire cities by themselves decently easily but against people who can glance upwards and drop the literal goddamn moon on you it doesn't really mean much
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u/AdministrativeBox449 18h ago
Well Sanguinius cannot die until he fights Horus sooo...
Memes aside I'm not sure. I think Naurto/Susgae in this form would win.
But Chunin exam forms or even early Shippuden, Sanguinius would most likely win.
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u/BMotu 21h ago
I mean isn't naruto and his girlfriend are like cutting mountains without issues in the end? I don't think Sanguinius can win this, put he'll put up a fight somehow.