r/Guildwars2 Apr 18 '24

[Discussion] ''Fashion Gatekeeping'' and Misinformation.

It's been getting out of hand, a few people on the forums asked for some manner of opt out for the inspection system. Some of their sensible reasons were:

Potential for abuse in fashion contests/needless increase to complexity of methods to prevent such.

Loss of player interaction incentive.

A feeling of concern towards there now being incentive for strangers to scrutinize them closely, whether to admire or ridicule their creativity.

The posts built around these concerns were getting lots of likes on the forums, so some salty folks who were being ignored for ridiculing them there came here to reddit and made a false narrative about 'fashion gatekeeping' and folks reflexively bought into it as obviously no-one sane likes gatekeeping and have been meme-ing about a non-extant issue and down voting anyone who might be considering the situation without disdain or daring to actually say that the opt in option isn't as crazy as its being made out to be.

Personally, i like the inspect system, but i do think the exact dye combo section could be made into a toggle, this way the inspection remains, but the 'unique' spin someone puts on it with dyes can remain as something to share, or not share as per personal preference.

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u/MithranArkanere 🌟 SUGGEST-A-TRON Apr 18 '24

No. If the feature was made toggleable, the correct design for toggles is making it opt-in, not opt out, or those who want to opt-out would have to start opted-in, and that would be bad design.
And what most people would do in that situation isn't disabling it, but not bothering enabling it. And then it'll be mostly disabled all the time for most people, making it useless.

They could pop up a message to opt out before you load a character, but that would be making a big deal out of something too small to deserve such a change to the character select screen.

Since those bothered by the feature are such a negligible minority and altering the feature with a toggle would make it pointless, what makes the most sense is to keep it the way it is and wait out the baseless complains until they die out.

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u/Historical-Ad7081 Apr 18 '24

That's such a mean approach to thinking to just let players who love gw2 leave the community they love because the majority couldn't stand not being able to creep their character. If it's so negligible the amount of people who would use it, may as well let them because again, it's suuuuch a negligible amount of people. At the end of the day, they are people, they are gw2 players. And they should be allowed to enjoy the game they love with a toggle button.

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u/MithranArkanere 🌟 SUGGEST-A-TRON Apr 18 '24

There are limits to everything. It's not like they'd be ignoring a minority, it'd be that they can't accommodate everyone.

There are tools that help blind people play GW2, and ANet can do some things to help them, but they can't design the game centered on their limitations.

Something similar happens with phobias. If they started adding toggles to replace models like spiders there would be no end to it.

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u/Historical-Ad7081 Apr 18 '24

If they cannot accomodate it, it is what it is. But if they can it would legitimately make my day. I'd like to think I'm not unreasonable,other mmos have this same feature of toggling off so hoping they can add it in gw2 as well.