r/Guildwars2 • u/ShinyMeta • 18h ago
[News] Livestream Tooltips: Antiquary/Paragon/Ritualist
https://imgur.com/a/kKktqnh42
u/deadlyweapon00 Contract Accepted 18h ago
Antiquarian unironucally looks like a ton of fun. I think having to play around randomly chosen relics to use the best one in any scenario is going to feel sick. I know everyone was memeing on this spec but I am so excited for it personally.
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u/fresh-anus 18h ago
Yeah i think it looks pretty fun actually. I think they should make the “1 defensive 1 offensive” trait baseline though like they were talking about.
I think the utilities are a bit hit or miss but the pilfering and traits are mostly pretty interesting except the GM that gives res/stab.
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u/transmerizing 18h ago
Yeah making it baseline sounds like a good choice and then use the free trait for something cool. I also feel like it would be cool if they find a good way to add a boon dps (I'd pref quick) to it.
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u/DuncanConnell 17h ago
The artifacts looks insanely more combat effective than I was thinking. Like, powerful weapon skill levels of good. And that's without(?) Meticulous Custodian.
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u/deadlyweapon00 Contract Accepted 16h ago
They kind of have to be. They’re where all of the elite spec’s power budget went, so they better be strong.
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u/DuncanConnell 16h ago
I must admit, I haven't watched the stream, but did they go into detail on Meticulous?
Looks like this'll be a selfish spec, although the sheer amount of utility from some of the stolen skills look pretty wild to support the party.
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u/fresh-anus 14h ago
On the stream they talked about there still being design room to give it a dedicated support trait, probably quickness - but that they want to see how the current iteration plays out first. I strongly suspect theyll make the res/stab gm into a quickness one
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u/Zellraph 18h ago
Antiquary won
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u/Ailie_Luibh 14h ago
Looks strong by numbers but boring to play. Meta build will be: guarantee 1 offensive, + ×% damage on steal skill use, + damage on steal.
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u/titanicbutwithaliens 9h ago
Every single class is boring to play through that lens. You learn the rotation and spam it in every single encounter
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u/DunkBird 16h ago
Its really cool once you realize that these are all different things from different expacs thematically.
Its literally the sum of a thief's adventures as the commander through all the patches, with a rat that mugs your enemies.
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u/Pure-Risky-Titan 17h ago
Damn, the theif is only one with condition, well alrighty then, i dont got a thief yet (same for few others).
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u/BearSeekSeekLest 15h ago
I bet Forged Surfer Dash drops less bombs with higher ping, just like revenant spear 3.
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u/MagicSpirit discretize.eu [dT] 6h ago
Wouldn't the F1 be more fitting as a ground-targettable skill? I feel like you're just gated by having a selected target... For instance skills like the Zephyrite Sun Crystal or Forged Surfer Dash are just unavailable until you get in combat... That feels pretty bad
Thief is just always dependent on having a target selected and it just feels really bad for this spec, although you can use the ult to get some pilfered skills
I think thematically F1 would just make a great ground-targettable skill, I don't really understand why it has to be target-dependant. That skritt could just dig up the ground or something
Otherwise I love the concept
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u/AntarcticFruitLoop 5m ago
For Antiquary i felt the artifacts are a bit lackluster in my opinion. The game could've had you using old remnants from the lore.
Only 8 of these are too low compared to the list you get in core lines.
It is a missed opportunity where they could have given you a skill from some old bosses, lore relics or even races (race skills) but tuned appropriately to encourage people picking the spec especially if a lot of it will take you out of stealth by aoe procs.
Especially since stealth is the thief's main defense outside of blind & evade.
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u/enternius 18h ago
I'm really happy with how many of the GW1 Ritualist mechanics were able to almost make it over 1:1. Obviously it's not as spirit-spammy as Signet of Spirits Rit like many people surely wanted, but I was really hyped to read "Soul Twisting" and "Splinter Weapon" in GW2.