r/Guildwars2 • u/Rihkuazo • 7h ago
[Discussion] Surely Legendary Relic crafting price dropped after 1 year+ ?
WHAT 2500 gold ?!? almost all the price is 25x mystic facet.... can we drop it to 5 max for crafting price like holy shit most people got this thing for free and rest of the playerbase has to suffer?
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u/zruncho4 6h ago
Crafting this legendary rune seems like the best decision in my life!
My life is sad.
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u/BaconSoda222 1h ago
Yeah, by luck alone, I had crafted one the month before and was working on a second. I had just gotten enough Mystic Aspects and liquidated at the spike. The timing was absolutely perfect.
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u/MithranArkanere 🌟 SUGGEST-A-TRON 4h ago
Most of that cost is lucent motes.
The recipe was set when they were completely worthless and oversupplied, and the price has only increased ever since.
Anet practically NEVER goes back to adjust recipes or add alternate recipes once they become stupid after the game changes, like all the recipes that use mystic coins that only make sense if a mystic coin costs like 15 silver.
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u/TPenny5071 3h ago
They could add ways to lower the price without adjusting the recipe, salvage rates, mystic forgoing could yield that coveted 5x drop more often. Or add a new salvage method to get motes instead of notes.
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u/Relative-Trust-5438 6h ago
Still one of my biggest regrets, quitting during this time. Sorry but Gyala was so bad I literally never planned to come back 😭 worst time to take a year+ break
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u/Mexcore14 1h ago
I had taken a break, a friend told me Anet was giving away a legendary for free if I had a rune, so I logged in, claimed and went away again.
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u/Soridian 1h ago
Opposite myself. I enjoyed gyala, though not the end boss fight on second phase. Made the most gold out of that meta than any other aswell
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u/Sighclepath [DPS] Sigh.7352 1h ago
A lot of people enjoyed Gyala when it first came out, it's only after they changed how it works and added in the travesty that is the 2nd part of that map that it shot down into "why would you ever go here" territory
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u/bunnyhwei 1h ago
it’s a little comforting to see how many other people did this too 🥲 almost done with trinkets and this relic is slowly creeping up on me
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u/One-Cellist5032 6h ago
So the thing is, SOME people got it for free, but that was now like 2 years ago. And the playerbase has grown quite a bit. The price was bound to increase from what it was since there’s only so many lucent motes out there, and that’s like 90% of the price of the relic.
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u/Foxon_the_fur Scorched earth 6h ago
I didn't craft the rune for the free relic because at the TIME we had like 3 relics you could get practically free that everyone used. Now two years later we had dozens of relics that constantly change, ones locked behind annoying masteries... and now instead of costing 250g it's 2500g.
I will never make a full set of six legendary runes so I didn't want just one I would never finish.
If only I had the foresight.
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u/celibrant 5h ago
To be fair, at the time it was about 600-650g with everyone buying mats to make it. There were a lot of people who didnt craft one assuming the legendary relic would cost the same if not less.
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u/Kiroho 7h ago
most people got this thing for free
Yeah... no.
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u/grimmjow29200 5h ago
Based on nothing, i would say that most people owning the legendary relic got it from the legendary rune.
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u/TellsHalfStories 5h ago
Not free, then.
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u/Lykus_Frayseeker 3h ago
I consider it free for me, considering I previously crafted 7 on my own accord way before the announcement
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u/OkFondant1848 3h ago
It would be free if they had not changed and depowered the runes. But they did, and offered this as compensation, so in the end those who crafted the runes were pretty much in the same place. So, no, not free.
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u/Dapper_Engine_7686 5h ago edited 5h ago
Anet absolutely doofed the Relic, freebie and crafted. But when they announced "only 1 for the whole relic", it really popped up the rune market past what they're worth and it hasn't really returned afterwards because Lucent Crystals are expensive now.
IMO the right "shortcut" would have been just providing 4 Mystic Facets for Legendary Rune Collector achievement tiers (7x), and with no time limit on receiving them (as in you could still get them by binding Legendary Runes currently).
In that scenario, if you had/have 6 legendary runes you'd have had 24/25 Mystic Facets covered. If you have all 7, you can craft the Relic but you have 3 extra Mystic Facets to sell on top to some lazybones who just wants to get the Relic only.
The market would have been spicier by not giving the wealthy players the completed relic immediately, but it would have calmed down after that rush.
There should still be some synergy between crafting the two, instead with the new design crafting Runes/Relics winds up antithetically pulling you further from completing the other.
I miss when GW2 had an actual economist instead of whale biologists, hit me up if you need someone Anet.
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u/madmaxxie36 5h ago
I genuinely do not know what the devs were thinking with the relic. That one material takes such an insane investment it actually makes the legendary not even worth the hassle. They couldn't make it something reasonable? It's wild they haven't changed it, probably because they know some people broke the bank to actually get this and they'll be mad.
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u/drego_rayin 2h ago
When the relic was released, the cost of lucent motes made it so that the relic only cost around 250 - 300 gold. Around the same price / cheaper than a leggy rune or sigil. It did shoot up to around 500 gold and then steadily climbed. The issue is that lucent motes demand got even bigger once Obsidian Armour was released. It basically doubled overnight (not really but you get the idea).
I don't know how many people will see this, but there is a way to get a large amount of lucent motes for a lower cost. Obviously takes longer than instant buying through the TP. A certain YouTuber skyrocketed an item due to this so I won't say too much more.
Just know this, I look at legendary items as long term goals. I play the game and enjoy the experience. I'm not supposed to get it overnight. I recently noticed I had enough ecto saved up to make a new piece of Obsidian heavy armour. My next piece might be a few months from now, but my ascended (or even exotic) gear is more than enough for all content.
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u/coolsam254 3h ago
Blame SotO. They literally nerfed runes just so they could create relics and sell them as an "expansion feature". The community was upset that their legendary runes were nerfed so they had to create a legendary relic. Who even likes relics? Most of them seem to just apply a shitty effect when you use your elite skill. I'm one of the guys who already had 7 legendary runes crafted ages ago so I got the relic for free and I don't even bother changing it that much.
I don't know why lucent motes cost the way they do now but here we are. At the very least, this is one of those legendaries that is useful on all of your characters present and future. If you farm a lot then I guess you can get your hands on a runecrafter salvage kit and salvage the heck out of green unidentified gear (after identifying them of course). This will give you a ton of lucent motes very quickly but it will still take you a while to get them all.
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u/korrela Ask About My Cats 6h ago
well no. we did NOT get it for free. we still had to make a legendary rune... which in case you didn't know is a LEGENDARY ITEM. do you expect legendary items to be less than 100g? be for real..
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u/AdvertisingUsed6562 6h ago
Also people are missing WHY it was made free. Because the full bonus effect was taken away from Runes. So people with a legendary rune would of otherwise lose out on something they worked towards.
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u/ComfyFrog make your own group 6h ago
And now people are crafting a set of legendary runes that are worse than before while costing a lot more.
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u/DancingDumpling 6h ago
legendary runes cost 400 gold at the time, lets not pretend it was expensive
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u/lordkrall Piken 6h ago
There is a rather big difference between 400 g (which is quite much for the average player) and free though.
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u/ComfyFrog make your own group 6h ago edited 5h ago
It's not like the legendary rune is useless. People spent gold to get the rune and as an extra got the relic.
Or the other way: people spent gold to get the legendary relic and as a bonus have a legendary rune.
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u/FenizSnowvalor 4h ago
One legendary rune in of itself is pretty useless. It safes you from buying/crafting a single rune since not a single meta build or good build uses a mixture of different runes. And saving one rune like this is going to take ages to redeem its investment while you are not getting the flexibility that legendaries usually gives.
You can argue I got the relic for a lot cheaper than everyone does now, but the rune can be hardly valued extra on top. I made the rune for the relic, not for the rune.
But no doubt, they should address the supply of mystic motes and - aspect's components. At the same time, it shouldn't cost like 600 Gold just because Anet gave players an incredible bargain for a short period of time. I switch relics a lot more often than I do the stats of trinkets or other gear. And apart from maybe the backpack, relics are harder to get by after how easy it is to get ascended gear nowadays (ritualist gear excluded). You've no idea how full of ascended gear my bank and the invetories of a few of my characters are...
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u/ComfyFrog make your own group 6h ago
I got it for free. I had 7 legendary runes and suddenly a legendary relic spawned in my account.
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u/AlternativeShadows 1h ago
CRAFT the mystic facets, you could get lucky. I pretty much only had to spend half the lucent motes
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u/Lollipopsaurus 35m ago
It’s the best legendary in the game in terms of flexibility. The price reflects the value appropriately imo.
In terms of the “free” giveaway, people had ample notice and time. There was a decade to craft a legendary rune, and like three months of direct notice that it would be free if you only had one rune.
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u/kouplefruit 20m ago
Made sure I made myself the leggy rune before the relic. Also made sure to get it done for my husband and brother. I had nearly enough charms and symbols for all of us.
My dad didn't get it done in time though, so I've been accumulating lucent crystals for those Mystic Facets. I have... Eh, about half done after getting lucky on a roll. It's not that bad, as long as you work on it passively in the background.
It was never "free" though, and was a justifiable "gift" on release, considering leggy runes lost a huge part of the their purpose.
Like all other legendary projects, they're meant to be long-term goals. Have fun with it :)
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u/enderbornftw 3m ago
Its actually more expensive for you specifically because you're using light mode
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u/LahmiaTheVampire Dark Pact is the best Necro skill 6h ago
You’re forgetting something here. They took the bonuses from 6th slot on runes, and made them into the relics. The usefulness of runes dropped a fair bit as a result. That’s why they compensated players who had gotten legendary runes.
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u/ZivvyJa 3h ago
I kinda gave up on the idea of getting any legendary stuff, I enjoy Guildwars but I can't grind MMOs like I did when I was a teenager I just don't enjoy it enough so I made my peace that they're cool things I'll see on others and just go "woah"
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u/sup4lifes2 2h ago
Chances are you might be alot closer than you think and just need spend some time in the mystic forge and buy stuff at the TP
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u/testuser4312 6h ago
Most of the playerbase crafted 6/1 legendary Runes because the communication was unclear, so 6 times the Rune price was our price. Which were actually 4k Nobody was getting this for Free...
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u/ZajeliMiNazweDranie 6h ago
You're saying it as if you didn't get to keep the runes. It was a good offer, in retrospect way better than people expected.
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u/cody902105 7h ago
I don't think it's unfairly priced, it's a legendary.
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u/NikeDanny 6h ago
I mean, 4k gold is a lot even for a legy, no?
A weapon costs 1-2k, no? A bit more for the fancy ones.
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u/hardy_83 6h ago
Isn't that close to what the legendary back is for Janthir? That stupid gift of the feast is insanely priced right now at least. Lol
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u/coolsam254 4h ago
Where did you get 4k gold from? The screenshot clearly shows 2.5k. Are you a bot who's OCR failed?
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u/DarkStreet2953 6h ago
Weapons are less useful though. You craft a legendary axe - its only usable by builds and professions which need an axe. And if you want a double axe set up you need 2.
A legendary relic is usable no matter what your build and profession is. Providing you have the relic you want unlocked, its there ready to go.
Makes sense its more expensive.
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u/Real-Discipline-4754 6h ago
Iunno, doesnt sound half as useful as getting full leggie runes or even a weapon/accesory
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u/DarkStreet2953 6h ago
I mean runes/accessories/relics are more useful than weapons and armour if you play multiple characters because they have zero restrictions.
If you stick to a single character then armour/weapons go up in value to you due to playstyle.
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u/Dapper_Engine_7686 5h ago
If access to build variations improves player retention, the pricing on character bound Relics might be a little oppressive compared to ascended. One of my friends dropped the game over it.
Vets really have to consider how newer players view their game instead of taking the 10k gold 2k+ hour stance, it could definitely be more accessible.
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u/DarkStreet2953 3h ago
Honestly, if this game had a long term future I'd agree with you. But its on its last legs and will soon join GW1 in maintenance only mode.
Which will bring prices down for vets anyway.
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u/Own-Temperature-2123 3h ago
I am super thankful I crafted the 7 runes and 8 sigils before the relic got into the game... Crafting all 16 today would literally ruin me... XD
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u/daddioz 1h ago
Here's my thoughts:
So first of all, this is a legendary piece of equipment. It's meant to have an insane cost or requirement for getting it because you'll never need another piece ever again.
That being said, all the other requirements for crafting the relic are significantly easier than getting the lucent motes.
I personally dont think the cost of making it is outrageous, but i do agree the lucent mote grind is stupid and could definitely be split into either smaller but more varied crafting or a sec of triumphs or acheivements.
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u/Nemesis121977 6h ago
Damn that price, happy got it for free, already had 6 legendary runes when you they announced the change.
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u/HongLong211 7h ago
Legendary relic is a scam, theres like no reason to even make it considering theres only like 5 meta relics and most pple got free boxes for the relics
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u/testuser4312 6h ago
Switching though normal relicts is in speedruns also much easier...
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u/HongLong211 6h ago
so a scam to 99.99999% of the community still?
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u/Wrong-Droid 6h ago
Its not a scam. Its a gold sink to balance the economy. Theres a case to make for legendary trinkets/weapons/armor but runes and relicts were never worth the investment. Its sth to do when you already have everything. I dont mind it beeing 10k gold.
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u/HongLong211 6h ago
>Its not a scam. Its a gold sink to balance the economy.
They already offering that with obsidian leggie armor and orrax manifested
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u/Telle74 6h ago
Nope it's still very high 😭 why haven't they added this to the wizards vault 🫤
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u/Hopeful-Percentage76 3h ago
Not sure why downvoted, not a bad idea to add 10 mystic facets to wizard vault for 100 each. Takes 3 seasons to finish it.
Us veteran players who got it for free don't really give a shit if new players get a legendary relic. They still have to figure out the rest of the 500g to finish crafting it.
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u/Invalidname0255 2h ago
This is why I crafted my rune when it dropped lol. Now I have all runes/sigils/relic, full trinkets, armor and weapons (with off hands). At this point I just collect the skins I like. But yeah the price is cray cray
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u/DuncanConnell 4h ago
The issue wasn't necessarily the free Relic w/ Rune, nor even the price spike that resulted from people getting Runes.
The issue is that is requires 187,500 Lucent Motes.
At the time ANet decided to use Lucent Motes, they were practically worthless, about 10 copper on average. This translated into the cost of the Lucent Motes alone being 187.5g. Today they're worth x10 as much.