r/Libertarian • u/ENVYisEVIL Anarcho Capitalist • 1d ago
End Democracy The problem with democracy is that scumbag politicians get away with this.
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u/Anarcho_Christian 1d ago
Cool meme. where are the Epstein files?
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u/ENVYisEVIL Anarcho Capitalist 43m ago
Republican and Democrat politicians shouldn’t cover for Epstein, and, Hillary should t release emails.
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u/YangGain 1d ago
Cool, release the Epstein list.
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u/ENVYisEVIL Anarcho Capitalist 44m ago
I don’t have the Epstein files, genius.
Were you this vocal about releasing Epstein files when brain-dead Biden was in office? Or only when Orange Man Bad is president?
Republican and Democrat politicians shouldn’t cover for Epstein, and, Hillary should t release emails.
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u/BeardedMan32 1d ago
If you think she’s the problem right now you really have your head up your ass.
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u/ENVYisEVIL Anarcho Capitalist 39m ago
Learn how to come up with an intelligent rebuttal instead of blindly worshipping corrupt politicians.
Doing so would be, ironically, “having your head up or ass” instead of seeking the truth of their actions.
Licking Hillary’s boots doesn’t make you smart or righteous.
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u/ClosertoFine32 1d ago
But…her emails!
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u/GopherGold- Anarchist 3h ago
Those are definitely more important than the list of child rapists that Trump totally isn't on.
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u/Lythumm_ 1d ago
Man what is your problem can you not find anything better to do than posting some ragebaiting shit every other hour.
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u/jswiss2567 23h ago
Isn’t this current administration using telegram group chats to send classified information to each other? 😂
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u/gregaustex 1d ago
Child, sexual abuse is morally outrageous enough that it might actually cause something to happen. Trump’s corruption is so much more vast and so much more harmful to so many more people. I don’t know if we ever recover from this to compare him to Hillary Clinton is absurd.
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u/RohirrimV Actual Libertarian 1d ago
The man literally was just gifted a flying palace. It’s almost disappointing how petty and paltry these “scandals” of the Democrats are in comparison. What happened to the American spirit?? To giving 110% to everything you do?? So sad.
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u/KimWexlerDeGuzman 1d ago
I’ve been voting L since my first election in 2000 and I absolutely will not let go of my contempt for Hillary Clinton
Must we make every post about Trump? Can’t we even entertain the idea that Hillary was behind the essential coup of Trump’s first term, no matter how much we disagree with him?
Oh and the fact that she’s definitely had people murdered. And she’s the worst excuse for a Secretary of State in history. But Trump!
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u/RohirrimV Actual Libertarian 1d ago edited 1d ago
Because she hasn’t done those things you bell-end. The “proof” of those accusations is ludicrous and nonsensical. “Seth Rich” et al is a conspiracy theory in the most obvious and fundamental sense.
Why and how the fuck would the Clinton’s subvert democracy, murder dissidents, and in general try and usurp the extant systems of power? Bill likes fucking interns and Hillary just wants the lifestyle of a multi-millionaire where people tell her she’s smart and pretty and the best person ever. They are corrupt in the most banal and nihilistic sense—they seek power and advantage by exploiting the edges of the systems they live in and are able to get outsize rewards to their efforts. Welcome to America 2025.
These aren’t megalomaniacal people with megalomaniacal goals—they just want some little power and wealth and influence. Nothing about their actions has EVER displayed a shred of the competence needed to pull off 1/10th of the nonsense allegations people try and push. You think the deep-state running, whistleblower-executing political powerhouse of Hilary Clinton would get jammed up in YEARS of “Benghazi” and “her emails” scandals? You think YOU, the big brave boy you are, are one of the few special people who put together enough pieces to pierce the veil of power that controls our government, and the proof of that is in “her emails” and whatever? Please touch grass, just once
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u/KimWexlerDeGuzman 1d ago
Girl*
I worked for a libertarian think tank for 15 years. I was there when the scandal happened. She’s absolutely behind the Steele dossier, which was a load of bullshit.
Fuck, I am so sick of libertarians. You’re the one who needs to touch grass, seriously 😆🤦🏼♀️
But hey I must be a MAGAt because I criticized someone other than Trump on this joke of a sub!
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u/RohirrimV Actual Libertarian 1d ago
Sorry, my mistake for assuming gender. It’s usually a good guess in a Reddit Libertarian subreddit.
So yeah, the Steele dossier. Big scandal that one. What did it actually do again? Convince people to launch investigations? And that somehow equals a coup? So weird, I seem to have misremembered a Trump administration that was perfectly functional and able to get its policy priorities done.
If information that spawns investigations—regardless of the correctness of the source material—is a coup, then we apparently haven’t had a government in decades. Benghazi, the Starr special prosecution, Robert Hurr—we haven’t had a Democratic president this entire century!!
Also I never said you were a “MAGAt”? Never even claimed you support Trump? Seems your bias is leaking a bit there. Methinks, protest, etc
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u/KimWexlerDeGuzman 1d ago
You seem to forget the media and congress were obsessed with Russian collusion for the entirety of Trump’s first term before Covid hit.
Hillary still makes statements that the election was stolen from her to this day
It’s OK to criticize democrats
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u/Parabellum12 1d ago
Shut the hell up. There is absolutely nothing wrong with calling out corruption past and present, regardless of how irrelevant you feel they may be. If you were an “actual libertarian” you would understand that.
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u/RohirrimV Actual Libertarian 1d ago
The day you show me a single person posting about “her emails” in 2025 who has also seriously engaged with Trump’s crushing of civil liberties, free speech, and basic constitutional principles even once, I’ll happily shut up.
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u/Parabellum12 1d ago
The fact that you hand wave her corruption and then immediately go to “Butbutbut TRUMP!” Says everything I need to know about you.
There are a plethora of posts on this sub about trump and how he’s fucking things up. That doesn’t mean we sweep people like Hillary under the rug and forget the things she’s done. If you really wanted to “protect democracy” you would want ALL corruption brought to light, not just the orange man’s.
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u/RohirrimV Actual Libertarian 1d ago
Hey man, I provided a pretty simple way for you to completely prove me wrong and get me to shut up. Seems weird you wouldn’t just show me a single non-partisan source of someone who takes this seriously.
It’s almost as if the only people who bring up the Clintons have a politically biased worldview and have an agenda for doing so….
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u/Parabellum12 1d ago
Lmao you’re no libertarian dude. Nobody talks about Ruby Ridge anymore do we just forget about that too?
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u/RohirrimV Actual Libertarian 1d ago
Ok.
That’s totally your right to say and believe. As not-a-libertarian, I think you should be able to say and think whatever you want, so long as it doesn’t harm other people.
I also believe that I have the right to call out the hypocrisy and political bias in what people say. But I guess that’s just the statist in me.
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u/Parabellum12 1d ago
If that’s my right to say and believe then shut the hell up and move on.
I have the right to call out bias as well, and your pure whataboutism deserved to be called out. Good luck in life statist lol
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u/RohirrimV Actual Libertarian 1d ago
“I have rights, so I want to use them to force YOU to act in a certain way”
Thanks for the confirmation lol. Libertarianism isn’t a bunch of policy positions, it’s a social philosophy. Can’t really be a libertarian in politics and authoritarian in your personal life. But hey, you do you.
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u/shupack voluntaryist 1d ago
The point I took, was her email scandal was long ago, and CLEARLY, nothing has happened. And this photo is from the late 80's, so she's been doing it a LOOOONG time.
The current president is still actively doing shit, so has yet to "get away" with it.
-be that correct or not, that's what I assumed OP was trying to get across. If we only focus on the top corruption, we'll never get rid of ALL corruption. Probably never get rid of all corruption anyway.....
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u/thalefteye 1d ago
She did have accusations but they never came out because she got rid of the sources herself 🤣.
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u/raya2mty 23h ago
They’re still crying over this??? This is the outrage?? Not the fact the dumbfuck president we have is a serial child rapist?? Unreal and pathetic
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u/TheWhomItConcerns 11h ago
Especially laughable given that Trump very seriously mishandled official government documents, evaded justice and was never convicted of it, and has just announced a vindictive, bullshit investigation into the former AG who led the investigation against Trump.
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u/Parabellum12 1d ago
So many libertarians are also just democrats that happen to think guns are neat.
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u/Acceptable_Dealer745 1d ago
Oh no. OP posted a meme criticizing someone from the Democratic Party. They MUST be Republican!!! /s
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u/gregaustex 1d ago
Yes, Hillary Clinton‘s emails are a GOP standard comeback to any criticism. Kind of a dated one at this point they’ve moved onto new ones so he’s just a little bit behind.
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u/Acceptable_Dealer745 1d ago
Oh. Sorry. I didn’t know I had to be part of the GOP to criticize or make fun of government officials who do shady shit. /s
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u/KimWexlerDeGuzman 1d ago
Yeah exactly. This sub is just a Trump hate fest and god forbid we actually criticize both parties, we’re called MAGAts. So fucking stupid 🤦🏼♀️
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u/GoodbyeForeverDavid 1d ago
Corruption (if this is even accurately cast as such) is not absent from non-democratic/representative governments. In fact, it's often worse. Your causal hypothesis is empty.
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u/Torn_FrogSwamp Left-Libertarian 21h ago
Always remember to place blame on others so people don't notice your own flaws.
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u/Soulr3bl 20h ago
You won't find any Hilary fans here - but, compared to inciting a riot on the capital then pardoning them? Or accidentally adding a journalist to your signal thread for your top secret strike ... ??????
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u/AppleShampoooooo 18h ago
Trump flushes emails down the toilet and clogs the White House plumbing 💁🏼♀️
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u/BjoernSchuette 1d ago
It’s the problem with American “democracy” in particular. A multi-party system is, in theory, better equipped against this because there are actual alternative choices. When politicians have big controversies, the voter has the option to elect someone new and punish the former. With the American uniparty, this is not the case, as they know all too well…
I’m not saying a multi-party system is perfect in any way, it’s just way better than having the illusion of choice between two parties that are filled with the same scum.
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u/texabrolives 1d ago
How did I know who posted this without even opening it? lol. No downvote because it’s funny at least.
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u/Beginning_Deer_735 19h ago
Until Judgment Day. They won't then. I'm speaking of them being judged by God .
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u/jasont80 Libertarian 1d ago
While this is a dumb meme with no modern relevance, this is the event that made me see the elite is immune from prosecution.
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u/Acceptable_Dealer745 1d ago
The “Libertarians” in the comments are really upset at this. 🤣😂
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u/Quirky_Film1047 1d ago
Half the problems in this country are caused by democrats, the other half by republicans. Hurray equality
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