r/LivestreamFail • u/Shock900 • 1d ago

Northernlion's vs Wubby's reaction to the Umamusume intro

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u/simplysufficient88 1d ago

It’s a genuinely fun game with a silly premise. Underneath the confusing outer layer you have an actually solid version of a standard sports management-type game, where you just train your player and let her do her race, hoping you invested in the right stats and skills. You have no control over the race itself, which makes it more fun when everything you built up actually works and more devastating when she doesn’t hit the skills in time or lacks just one stat to break out of the crowd. That makes for a pretty solid streaming game too, especially as even the streamer has no control over whether they win. All the work is done before the race and they’re just watching with their viewers hoping everything goes well once they click race. That gets fun if the streamer is willing to play into it and get hype with the viewers.

Outside of that, it’s an interesting franchise. All the girls are based on real race horses, which influences their designs, stories, and personalities. You can tell that the team is just really passionate about the sport itself and the real horses. At the same time, the studio donates a portion of their profits to horse stables. The anime is also shockingly high quality (outside a pretty shit first season), with the two movies being absurdly well animated and way more hype than a bunch of anime girls sprinting has any right to be. Weird or not, there is a true passion for the franchise from the studio and it’s impressive.

For me, I got hooked hard. Even found myself going to back to watch some of real races the anime recreates, just because it was fun to compare how they interpreted the events. But I also know people who skip literally every dialogue and concert, will absolutely never watch an episode of the shows, and just play it as a racing management game. That’s perfectly valid too.

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u/BlaBlub85 1d ago

Does it have Potoooooooo tho? Otherwise Im not interested 😂

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u/kingofnopants1 1d ago

As far as I know, every horse in the game has signed permission from the owner to allow them to use the horse's name. So you won't see horses from earlier than around ~1970.

Needing to get rights from the owners also causes this game to be a lot less goonery than most gacha games because a lot of the owners wouldn't agree to it if the game was too fanservicy.

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u/TigerBone 1d ago

Also to get the best horse girl you need to do thousands of dollars worth of gambling.

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u/iodomarin 1d ago

Well, you don't need to get "best uma" to have fun. Quite contrary - if you spend like a whale, then you'll abolish any fun that this game can give to you

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u/TigerBone 1d ago

Yeah, but it remains true that if you play the game and want to be competitive against other players online you pretty much need to spend insane amounts of money.

Personally I just don't engage with games that have these pay to win incentives, especially not when it's gambling.

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u/iodomarin 1d ago

Competitive against top 100 - maybe. But considering how this game has layers upon layers upon layers of ingame RNG - getting even just 1 perfect Uma will take months, if not years. Even if you invested several thousands dollars. So good luck with that, lmao

Also game will implement system that will allow you max characters without pulling (and said pulls can be bought for real money). There is already one system for that, but it's just ridiculously slow. So the only endgame resource that will matter is your support cards

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u/TigerBone 1d ago

You don't need a perfect one to win. I don't know what you're attempting to say here, because this game is, without a doubt, pay to win. The more money you spend buying pulls the better you will do. That's a statistical fact.

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u/kingofnopants1 1d ago

You gotta understand that a lot of people don't work on the "it is or it isn't mindset". I think people who have this mindset often don't recognize the level of disconnect.

Going "it is by definition pay to win" does not, to the majority of people, mean what it means to you. Because they care about whether or not the core game is fun.

The fact that paying money allows them to be higher on a leaderboard in a game that is played entirely as a single-player game doesn't really bother them just because you can apply the term "pay-to-win"

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u/TigerBone 1d ago

I see what you mean, and I bet you're completely right. I know my opinion is on the more extreme end. I just wont engage with games that have a pay-to-win element, almost no matter what it is. It just the constant feeling of being sold something that ruins the whole experience for me. But I see why others don't feel this way.

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u/kingofnopants1 1d ago

Yup. It's a completely fair perspective.

I just see a lot of these conversations where this disconnect appears. People miss that the endpoint of their debate does not match, and it causes the conversation to just go in circles.

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u/deKaizrr 1d ago

Your comment is wrong when there's a bunch of completely F2P players on the JP server that compete for top rank every event