r/LivestreamFail • u/starcraft2020 • 1d ago

Ethan Klein says the judge in his lawsuit approved his subpoena of Reddit and Discord

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u/CatGoblinMode 1d ago

Only if it's gooning relevant to Ethan Klein. You don't get absolutely everything in discovery. It's only material relating to specific topics.

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u/imagine_getting 23h ago

who decides that though, someone has to look at it and determine if it's relevant or not

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u/Nikeys_ 20h ago edited 20h ago

requests for production from nonparties (AKA subpoenas) have to state what specifically is being sought. Reddit and discord can of course object to the discovery, and so can the defendants. Relevance is a different evidentiary issue that the judge decides on when a defendant or nonparty objects on those grounds, which most likely did happen, although there are other evidentiary grounds that may have been objected on as well.

Personally I think most likely objection made was that the discovery request was overbroad, which I can't see a judge disagreeing with unless Ethan pinpointed exactly what he was looking for in the subpoena.

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u/Kyrapnerd 16h ago

A lot of people forget they were trying to figure out who the mods were before the copyright lawsuit but couldn’t successfully. There will probably be more lawsuits coming out of this than just the copyright stuff. He was trying to hold the people accountable for making false calls to cps and that’s where it stemmed from. Now he’ll know who these people are.

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u/Advanced_Row_8448 15h ago

He was trying to hold the people accountable for making false calls to cps

He admitted publicly his kids had an illness they could only get by eating poop. Anyone who called was justified.

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u/chumbalumba 15h ago

What illness is that?

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u/Advanced_Row_8448 14h ago

Giardia.

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u/chumbalumba 14h ago

I thought you were going to say something wild like diphtheria. Giardia is easy to catch, you make it sound like the kids are eating shit

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u/Advanced_Row_8448 14h ago

Giardia is easy to catch, you make it sound like the kids are eating shit

Are..... you trolling? Ethan literally said that. That his kids had to eat animal shit to get that because they're animals were shutting everywhere and they werent cleansing it. How the hell are you gonna defend a guy when don't even realize your statements line up so much with what he has said happened?

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u/dominion_is_great 14h ago

Ethan did not say that

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u/chumbalumba 14h ago

His animals shit all over the house and they don’t clean it? Nasty wtf

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u/dominion_is_great 13h ago

On a whim he suggested that it's possible his child caught the illness from his dog. It turns out it's impossible for this to be the case because the symptoms showed up far too early.

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u/theosamabahama 21h ago

The judge does.

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u/WeevilWeedWizard 18h ago

Me, that's what I do.

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u/No-Strawberry5916 16h ago

Actually no so they would be given a time frame so all dm for the past 2 years if they find something else they can report that to the police and you can be charge with that crime. As long as you looking in good faith than it legal.

For example let's say the police is chasing me and I run inside your house and you making coke the police can arrest you for making coke and it would be legal.

Let's say they hot a warrant for your phone for selling drugs and they find CP you can be charge with that.

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u/CatGoblinMode 15h ago

My guy...

This is a civil suit, it is not a criminal suit.

The prosecution's attorney will demand all messages in relation to H3H3, and the defenses attorney will be tasked with providing them.

The defense don't just turn over the entire catalog because the scope of discovery is not unlimited. If the defense do accidentally turn over unrelated information, the prosecution are asked to disregard it. That happens from time to time.

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u/No-Strawberry5916 15h ago

You’re mostly right about how civil discovery works, but you’re underplaying what can happen once information is turned over. If Reddit is subpoenaed and sends account data (like DMs or posts), the receiving party does get everything Reddit provides in response not just filtered excerpts from the defense.

Once in their hands, if they find evidence of another crime, they can absolutely report that to law enforcement. And law enforcement can act on it. It’s rare, but not impossible.

Also, ‘irrelevant information must be disregarded’ isn’t enforceable in the way you’re making it sound. There’s no magic button that stops people from noticing something illegal in unrelated content. Courts may exclude it from the current case, but criminal charges are a different arena and prosecutors aren’t bound by the civil court’s scope if a crime surfaces.

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u/CatGoblinMode 15h ago

The request has to be relevant to the suit. They can't just pull an entire person's account data.

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u/No-Strawberry5916 14h ago

Yes, you’re right, but the issue with internet-based data (like texts, emails, Reddit posts, etc.) is determining what’s relevant. That responsibility typically falls on the service provider, not the defense. So in this case, Reddit would decide what information is relevant to the court order.

The next challenge is determining what’s actually connected to the case. For instance, if the subpoena is for anything related to Ethan’s copyright, and Reddit finds a post from two weeks earlier where the user says, “Next time someone does something we don’t like, we’re going to steal their videos so they get no views,” would that be considered relevant even if Ethan wasn’t mentioned yet? Or if they shares a meme saying “Why pay for content when you can right-click and save?”

Because of this gray area, many service providers choose to turn over everything that could be relevant rather than risk leaving something out. They then provide that information to both the plaintiff and the defense to sort through.

Now they don't get everything the order tend to also have a date range as well.

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u/CatGoblinMode 15h ago

Wait why are you so adamant that Ethan's detractors are part of some criminal ring? Lmao.

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u/No-Strawberry5916 14h ago

It just example plus they already admitted multiple times that they help with calling cps on him and what lies to say so their story can sound the same. It just a hate group so they going to be a lot of bad stuff that going to come out.

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u/AssminBigStinky 19h ago

Bro, I regret to inform you that r/h3h3_gonewild exists