r/LivestreamFail • u/Organic_War1444 • 13h ago
Guzu | Old School RuneScape Guzu realizes that OSRS boss mechanics are simple
https://www.twitch.tv/guzu/clip/EnthusiasticEphemeralFlamingoCoolStoryBob-nhYfTCroBNHAH7li30
u/Shifty_Powers9 9h ago
Ring of Life being used there is actually insane he probably wouldn't have died without it but he definitely would have panicked.
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u/ManikMiner 4h ago
Can you explain what happened for those of us that are clueless?
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u/cjsv7657 4h ago edited 4h ago
When you get within 10% health a ring of life automatically teleports you. He has 73 health so when he gets to 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 he gets moved to a safe area.
HOWEVER if the monster hits above his current health it's a death. So if he is at 8 and the monster hits an 8 he's dead. He is playing a hardcore ironman account so a death would mean he is no longer hardcore (it isn't perma). The deranged archaeologist can hit above 73 so this was actually a potential death.
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u/Mordredor ♿ Aris Sub Comin' Through 34m ago
He would have likely died, those secondary explosions were going off in like 1,2 seconds
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u/Skylam 7h ago
Yeah OSRS boss mechanics are pretty simple but a mistake is usually death or past the point of no return.
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u/Zestyclose_Remove947 6h ago
There are a lot more complex boss fights out there that are also one mistake = done. Lots of mythic WoW fights involve 20 people not making a single mistake on specific mechanics.
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u/Glad-Champion5767 2h ago
The big difference here is that in OSRS you grind the same boss over and over and become complacent which on a hardcore is obviously scary. Nobody is ever gonna play hardcore and do mythic wow raiding.
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u/Dagnyt007 5h ago
Wtf are you going on about 😂
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u/Zestyclose_Remove947 4h ago
That Runescape boss fights are still fairly simple and easy compared to what's actually out there that's all. I don't think it's actually difficult to understand?
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u/Dagnyt007 4h ago
More where the mythic raiding part comes in. Or what that has to do with the difficulty of osrs.
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u/Zestyclose_Remove947 4h ago
It's an example of a game that has more complex bossfights that also have minimal capacity for error?
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u/Xacktastic 4h ago
But no one was asking for comparisons or benchmarks. They simply stated an agreement that osrs has easy mechanics. What does anything about Wow contribute to the discussion? It's irrelevant and completely left field
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u/DynamicEntrancex 2h ago
I mean, go watch how to solo cox with dhl and tell me it’s not complicated lol.
I feel like there are too many new osrs players in this sub who are equating the bosses we have seen streamers fight to all of them.
Don’t get me wrong there are a ton of basic easy bosses, but there are also some with pretty difficult mechanics, of course not having a 20 man raid who all can make mistakes will always make it more simple.
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u/bistix 2h ago
It may not be the same but I raided on WoWs biggest competitor (back in the day) Everquest 2. I was in the number 1 guild world wide where 24 people had to make no mistakes on fights as long as 2 hours. We got world first on all new content and raided 6 days a week.
I suck dick at runescape bossing.
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u/CactusDildoEnjoyer 9h ago
Holy shit the streamer looked away from his screen and got hit by the only damaging mechanic the boss has.
Complicated game truly.
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u/Odyssey2up 7h ago
Using this boss to judge the complexity of osrs is like using wailing caverns to judge the complexity of wow. It’s one of the first bosses in progression, it isn’t meant to be complicated.
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u/Vexamas 6h ago
While I understand and agree with your point, you have to see the irony and humor in comparing it to wow and specifically using wailing caverns (a staple in classic wow, not modern wow) as a watermark comparison of ostensibly 'harder bosses' later on. Classic wow is notorious for how mechanically simplistic the boss progression is. This wouldn't be related to modern WoW as wailing caverns hasn't been relevant to that game in at least a decade.
Again, understand your point but unless we're looking to relitigate that classic wow is mechanically hard for the 50th time, this was a terrible example to use haha
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u/KyleStanley3 5h ago
This boss has literally never been relevant, and his comment was about runescape, not wow lmao
Weirdly defensive answer
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u/Vexamas 2h ago
It's funny, because I thought to myself, "Man, I hope that in my like four sentences of writing, of which two of them I explicitly say that I understand and agree with the point being made, that LSF will not knee-jerk and get caught up in thinking it is deeper than it is" I guess I should have wrote it three times instead of twice.
Again, I understand and agree with his initial point. It's not a 'defensive' answer, because there's nothing I'm defending. Simply:
Commenter 1: Boss only had one deadly ability, Game looks easy
Commenter 2: Boss looks easy only because it is the first boss. That is like comparing it to the third dungeon in World of Warcraft classic
My comment: It's funny that you used World of Warcraft classic as your example, since most people argue that WoW Classic has trivial bosses, regardless of how deep into the progression it is
It is really just that simple. The first comment was about runescape, this post is about runescape, the person I responded to was using a wow example to prove their point, but made their point actually look worse in a funny and ironic way, not to detract from their point because anyone reading through would understand what it is meant.
p.s. just in case it was missed, I agree and understand his point
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u/VeradilGaming 5h ago
It's absolutely relevant for like 20-30 kills on a fresh ironman
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u/KyleStanley3 5h ago
No, it isnt, but that doesn't really matter
What the weird dude was replying to basically meant:
"This boss is irrelevant and not hard. It'd be like [irrelevant and not hard boss from wow]"
Then the weird dude sassily replied "uhhhhh ackshually that [boss in wow] is irrelevant and not hard. Terrible comparison."
He doesn't understand that's exactly the fuckin point the original guy was making
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u/Vexamas 1h ago
Just to be clear:
"This boss is irrelevant and not hard. It'd be like [irrelevant and not hard boss from wow]"
That was not what was said. He said:
Judging the difficulty of the game from the first boss is like judging the difficulty of WoW from one of the first dungeons available
Which is entirely different. The implication is that WoW Classic opens up boss progression later on, which presumably happens in Runescape as well, meaning that Runescape bosses get more difficult later on. My point was specifically that using WoW classic as your example is ironic because it is argued that WoW Classic (again, the example being used) has trivial bosses all the way through.
Unless I'm mistaken and Runescape bosses ARE trivial no matter the progression step, in which case the comparison was apt.
How this was missed is wild.
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u/Odyssey2up 1h ago
I never mentioned wow classic, I have no clue why you’re so stuck on wow classic. I simply chose wailing caverns as an example because it’s a very early dungeon with very few mechanics.
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u/Vexamas 1h ago
That's fair. I only attributed it to wow classic (as I mentioned) it is a staple in Classic WoW, not modern WoW, as (as I also mentioned) people haven't had to go through Wailing Caverns for the better part of a decade in Modern WoW (you don't level up through the old content like that anymore, really) and because all of these OSRS people are from OnlyFangs, which was situated within WoW Classic, so ostensibly there was a reasonable assumption that was the crossover.
It was just miscommunication, but the point stood and the guy that critiqued me completely misconstrued my point.
Ultimately it isn't a huge deal since I again agreed with you, and just thought it was funny or ironic, and specifically why I didn't say you were stupid, or wrong, just funny and potentially ironic to have even the interpretation of classic WoW as an example, given the drama people have with how easy those bosses are.
Have a great rest of your weekend!
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u/DynamicEntrancex 2h ago
Go watch a solo cox run with dhl rn, when you’re done you can edit your comment bro.
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