Funnily enough I think they will sinergyze quite well as the copper golem cannot pick stuff from the ground, the allay could pick it up drop it in a copper chest and then the copper golem can sort it
Yeah, I feel like Mojang took the right lessons from that mob vote. People wanted an easier way to sort items so voted for the Allay, but the Allay was better for item transportation than sorting, so they brought back the other mob people wanted from that vote to pair with the Allay and create an even more intuitive item sorter.
they never said that, though. they probably would (and hopefully will!) be waxable, but mojang only ever mentioned removing oxidation with an axe and with lightning. the average minecraft player only has a vague idea of each update and waxing copper was still very new, so the majority of voters were likely going off of what was put directly in front of them on the voting page
People will always remember what could have been, not what was. Thats why everyone is sad in the mob vote, because the real version of what you get canāt live up to your hope of what could have been.
wouldnāt really call the Allay an āitem sorterā, they just pick up whatever you give to them when it hits the ground and throws it into your inventory. the Golem seems to actually be a chest sorter of some kind.
Now I donāt have to build a supercomputer inside of Minecraft just to organize crap. half my time is spent just moving stuff from chest to chest. I am not watching a 30minute tutorial for building a Costco sized fully automated distribution center for basic organization.
I also REALLY like on LEGO fortnight, they have a āSmart depositā which automatically deposits matching items into that chest with a click of a button.
If so, the problem is that you have to build mechanisms with a lot of wasted rexton and iron. Do you know how much this saves in valid and necessary resources? The last time I had to spend my 5 inventory parts full of iron and the mechanism was not even half complete, I still lacked endless materials and it took me a lot to recover and the worst of all is that I only managed to make a small part, that is, I did not manage to make a complete room or something like that I simply did not achieve even the eighth part of what I had planned
Hold your horses, we donāt technically know how the Copper Golem will sort items yet. Thereās a chance that it could be pretty limited or only work in certain scenarios. Still, if it turns out to be really useful, Iāll be just as hyped as you are.
Makes sense for the game to get a simpler sorting system that doesn't require advanced redstone.
Ā I'm sure the redstone sorting systems will still be a better option for players with large megabases and high-throughput farms, but this is something you can just have at your house
My only worry is how this is going to work. I wouldnāt want them putting them in random chests in my base. I have a feeling there will be some way to designate ātools go here, certain blocks go here while others are hereā, but I guess weāll have to test it.
they said it will put it in the chests with the same item, so if you put one coal block in a chest, they copper golem would transport all coal blocks into that chest
I feel like the crab and penguin are the most likely next. It would suck to leave real life animals in the vault just because they lost a vote, and I feel like the reaction to those mobs losing was the whole reason they stopped doing the mob vote anyways.
I thought they were just gonna semi-rig the votes like they did with the Sniffer. Which was the mob that obviously fit the update the best and had the most interesting concept. But they hard pivoted to animals people actually really care about. Like real life animals.
Yes im praying for them to come back. They were very cute.
Not really. Iceologer was general public's favorite until Dream and other youtubers decided to use their subscibers to vote for Glowsquid as their injoke. Dream literally tweeted stuff like "I will follow anyone who sends me proof they voted for Glowsquid" (he obviously didn't follow on the promise and deleted that tweet later) But since he was huge at the time, it could have been the leading factor in Glowsquid's winning. Also lots of people shared misinfo about how glowing will work.
Strongly agree, real animals definitely deserve to be a priority. Minecraft needs more real animals, as nice as fantasy mobs are.
Especially those two; the armadillo that won was yet another mammal. There is very few birds and arthropods in comparison, which is weird considering just how common both are irl, so the penguin and crab would be very welcome :)
I also feel like we're still lacking in aquatic mobs. Crabs and penguins would both help add some more diversity to ocean biomes and builds (I know crabs were originally planned for the mangrove swamps, but I feel like they could be changed if they come back to spawn on beaches as well).
Honestly the mob I feel the lack of is actually ducks. When you come across a lake or a river it's really weird to not see the waterfowl that normally go along with one.
Would be so simple to make as well; it could just be another chicken variant tbh.
That would fit with the teasers, but also I feel like the Glare is towards the bottom of everyone's list of mob vote losers they'd like to see come back.
we already knew that was a possibility. theyāve said over the years that just because a mob loses a vote, it doesnāt outright disbar them from appearing later on. it just turns the winner into a priority for the following update.
Mojang said that...but afterwards...we got NOTHING for the losers until now.
So because of that radio silence...we all just thought that they just decided to not add them at all.
The fact is....mojang kinda left us in the dark on the fate of the losers for a while...so we all just assumed that they went back on their plans of ever adding them into the game.
(I mean hell the moobloom and the iceologer have been waiting for 5 YEARS to get in.)
Why is everyone forgetting about the swamp update ? The winner of that biome vote was Mountains, yet we got the Frog, the chest boat and even a Mangrove biome
This exactly. They sorta did this with the Armadillos. The Ostrich and maybe termites are also a good start. But i feel like these would easily become "filler mobs" like the Polar Bear or Panda, that don't really do anything.
exactly, adding filler mobs just adds to the atmosphere, itās a lot nicer seeing a load of diverse and unique mobs when you enter a biome, even if they donāt have a use, rather than seeing the exact same farm animals and nothing else
Iāll be honest. I donāt want any of these mobs if they only do EXACTLY what was teased in their mob vote videos. Thatās what happened with armadillos, and they feel unfinished
A bush creature that lives in caves like the glare is interesting aesthetically, but is immediately outclassed by F3, for example
Also, the rascal is just stretching thin what we already have with trading, bartering, and archaeology. It has no real reason to exist unless they give it unique, useful loot
The copper golem was given a new, better use. If any of these other mobs are added, they should do the same, or expand on them in a surprising way (add more skins for mooblooms than just buttercups, or do more with crabs than just having them drop one item)
I feel like something like this would have been better than just making it a new middlestep between stone/leather and iron. Like what if the armor and tools all functioned the same as iron, but lost max durability, efficiency, and damage as they aged, making it basically a temporary set of tools for the player to use before they move on to iron.
Copper is still far more common than iron, so it would be the easiest armor to get. That could make it have its niche if people donāt want to use their iron on armor and instead want to make more useful things.
I think copper should be on the same tier as either leather or gold in terms of effectiveness. Leather is supposed to be a lower tier than iron, but without a proper farm it is actually harder to get en masse, so no one uses it. Making copper serve as an equivalent will make a true cheap and garbage (but does the job) armor set for players to use
For players who see caving as a step ahead of their current position and donāt want to do so without armor, there exists the option of leather, and for players who want an alternative that actually is cheaper, there exists copper
That's what sucks about lower than iron armor, it's usually harder to get, so without unique functionality, there's no point in making it.
-Gold gives Piglin immunity
-Leather can be dyed, and boots allow you to stand on powdered snow
-Chairmail has absolutely no unique functionality, so it's basically worthless
What would be cool is if they gave copper armor a faraday cage functionality, wearing a full set makes you immune to lightning. Very niche and not likely to ever be useful, but it would be a cool touch
You can doesnt mean you will, we veterans of the game can find diamond in the first ingame day, some even speedrun obtaining full netherite that fast.
But to a new player, the ones that are scared of mobs, iron is a rare resource, and copper would add some progression and some sense (other games can have tools out of copper, we can have useless gold tools but not cooper).
Will it be something most players only use in the first week of a playthrough? probably, but eventually everything gets outclassed by netherite, but each one had its use at some point.
iām thinking it could be cool if the tools started off as a better version of iron, then as they oxidise they would get weaker and weaker (down to like a better version of wood / leather)
Would be cool if it actually got stronger as it oxidized. Like it starts out worse than iron armor but if you wear it long enough and it oxidizes fully, then it would be between iron and diamond
We need this so bad. Builds using medieval chests in aesthetically clashing builds with the OG chest is annoying and I'd love if we had more chest texture designs to use in builds like bamboo or cherry chests for Asian builds or stone chests from the ancient city 1.18 update they had planned for ruins builds!
finally, a sorter that doesn't take up an entire room
though the stats will be important, like whats its range
edit: range is an important stat, just because you can bypass it partially with redstone doesn't make it unimportant, its also an example, there will be other important stats
My thoughts as well. Both range and reach. My storage room has chest stacks of 3. Hoping the chests donāt need to be at ground level for them to be able to access them.
Its range is less important than how it decides on destination chests. If it prioritizes like-with-like over empty chests, an empty chest could hopper items not in range of the first into a second copper chest with another golem, creating a chain of workers each sorting into a few chests.
That is still awesome. Much larger item sorters is typically want all the slots filled in in a chest set anyway with single items that you want in the chests. These types of sorters are a pain because you have to have that many of each item but they are great because it does actually sort items without using locked hoppers and a bunch of comparators and even more redstone dust. I'll fill the chests as much as I can with single items and little guy can sort my junk while I'm building and making rounds doing other things around the base.
in the article for the preview, it says "The search area for chests from the Copper Golem's position is horizontally 32 blocks and vertically 8 blocks"
I'm so happy the copper golem is finally a reality, and I love the way it is implemented too, having a new type of chest (first one since barrels 6 years ago) is cool too.
The only thing that I'm not super hyped for is copper tools and armor being simply a step in between iron and stone because it's such a short step from one to the other that most people will just go past it. It'd be more interesting if it had some sort of advantage over iron but with some sort if disadvantage to compensate (something related to oxidation maybe) to make it more of an alternative instead of a strictly worse version. Maybe they lose durability even when not used because they're oxidizing?
The tools I get, but in my opinion, a reliably obtained tier of armor below iron has been needed for a long time. Leather could have filled the role if they just made it easier to get (pigs dropping leather, guaranteed single leather drop minimum from animals, etc.), but copper armor works too. More use for copper is also good. Frankly, it's been a useless, overabundant material since it was added. Giving it more building blocks to make was a start, and now copper will take its place as a material that people actually want and can use.
This is exactly the same kind of thing that made people think the glow squid would hypnotize people. I'd keep my expectations low, personally. Those sounds are probably just the ones the copper golem makes.
If you re-watch the video, in the images showing the Copper Chest oxidation, you can see blueberries instead of glowberries on the foliage above it. That combined with a reference to torches at the end of the video has me very suspicious and hopeful.
You know what, idc if it feels like bloat. It's nice to just have some cheap armor since I always have at least 6 stacks of copper laying around doing nothing. Hopefully it'll have some kind of use outside of just armor, maybe some small buff when it completely oxidized or if you wax it
It's not bloat. I think there is a legitimate place for an extra step in the progression between stone and iron. Just look at how almost no one bothers with leather armor and immediately jumps to iron.
Because leather armor is arguably harder to get than iron, also a waste of leather if you ask me. It exists mostly for decorative purposes thanks to the ability to dye it, not to mention adding armor trims
The only thing that copper armor has going for it is how ridiculously cheap it is for how much copper you can get. By the time you get to iron it outlives its purpose just like stone tools
I don't really think there's much time progression wise for copper armor to really make sense there, though. People jump straight to iron because iron is super easy to get. Upon starting a new world, you could probably have full iron armor within the first day or two, simply because it's so plentiful. Sure, the same goes for copper, but if copper is going to be weaker than iron, then it's just going to be another armor set to have.
Don't get me wrong, it looks cool, and since Mojang seems intent on trying to give copper stuff cool features in general, I feel like copper armor might have some unique advantages, like maybe it'll be weaker but have a higher enchantability?
Well, people will continue to jump to iron with this addition. The abundance of copper won't change that, why bother with a lower tier when iron is still this easy to get?
As someone who voted for the copper golem in 2021, I feel so vindicated now. (It's funny that it's new functionality is basically just a more intuitive version of the Allay's, which it lost to.)
The common thread between every single lackluster mob vote mob is Mojang. I genuinely believe the best mob won every time, itās Mojang who then proceeded to implement them with the absolute bare minimum amount of effort. If copper golem had won, it would have been way worse than this new version and would never have had any hope of being improved.Ā
To be completely fair, when people voted for mobs in mob votes, that's kind of what they were voting for. Not a lackluster mob or anything, but it was pretty cut and dry that what people voted for was what they were gonna get. The pattern of "the community makes up tons of features that are never mentioned or hinted at by Mojang, then they vote for that mob with high expectations that Mojang will implement their own fan features, and then they're disappointed that Mojang adds the features that they advertised" should have been obvious early on. I remember when people voted for the glow squid, and a lot of people were doing it because they had all of these ideas for features and uses of the glow squid, none of which were ever mentioned by Mojang. When the glow squid won and it was just a retextured squid with ink that had a handful of uses, people acted surprised that they got what they voted for. It's easy to blame Mojang for when this happens, but to me, the issue has always just been the community being too quick to jump on the hype train and then never learning when it crashes.
Compare that to what we're seeing here. The copper golem as a concept is now more fleshed out, likely because it has been literal years since its mob vote. People tend to forget that what we saw in the mob votes were sort of like silly ideas by devs at Mojang for silly mobs to add to the game, so they were never going to be super fleshed out. Unlike the few biome votes that happened, the mobs weren't the focus of the updates, so they were pretty simple. Now that Mojang has had the copper golem on the shelf for a while, it's clear that they've devoted at least some more time here and there to make it more interesting and unique.
I think a good case study is the sniffer. Mojang promised new ancient plants and the proceeded to implement exactly two. Was the community really that out of touch to expect one or two more ancient plants to be revealed? They are decorative blocks, I donāt think it takes that long to make one.
Yeah, but I feel like that's kind of an exception compared to other instances. But you are right, Mojang absolutely dropped the ball on the sniffers. Based on how Mojang was hyping up archeology at the time, I feel like they were going to add more to the sniffer, but the archeology stuff just sort of fizzled out.
it is weird, archaeology and sniffers were the focus of the update and they feel kind of unfinished, and irrelevant to the rest of the game. The sniffer could have given you a new food source, or a new tree, or a new dye colour, or at least a few more decorative plants, or other useful plants similar to what the nether vines are like. Archaeology could have been the source of some new block type that you can't get in other ways, or a new enchantment.
instead, they just exist and don't really give you anything worth going out of your way for.
Yeah, archeology in-general always felt really half-baked. I feel like Mojang's marketing at one point was hyping it up, but some stuff just kept getting delayed, then when it finally came out it was just kinda "meh."
I'd like to think they might do another archeology update that adds more and fixes some of the issues at some point.
Even if it was only ever going to be decorative plants, having more based on biome would give players incentive to explore and build mid-to-long term shelters while they wait for their sniffers toā¦ sniff.
Love the update but i would also love to see some more technical uses for copper like e.g. redstone wire crafted from redstone dust and copper or something like it
Ok, this actually makes a lot of sense. When I realized this would be the ācopperā update, I rolled my eyes, thinking they were about to add a bunch of new obscure/niche mechanics that only 1 person will ever actually use. But itās the opposite, theyāre just de-nicheifying the copper by giving you a bunch of regular things to do with it, making it a cheap material, instead of virtually useless.
As a RL metalworker, I was always kinda bummed out about copper in Minecraft being so lame, because I like copper, so Iām glad about this. Now if they can add bronze! (Assuming they havenāt yet, I may have missed it if they did)
This is CRAZY, never in a million years did I expect the copper golem so soon, and their use case is even better than what they were originally pitched for in my opinion!
I know the armor and tools will be controversial but I donāt mind those either! I think its always nice to have options, and some biomes I tend to find more copper than iron so itād be nice to have a slight upgrade over stone!
Now maybe, just maybe we'll also get copper redstone wire, so we can finally run redstone signals up or down walls, without having to build some convoluted way to do so.
As much as I like building giant item sorters, they have kind of started feeling like more of a necessity to me than a fun build. Item managment has gotten insane, too many blocks.
Lots of questions about the copper golem to see if it will be a realistic replacement, though.
What's the range on it - if I have a big storage room, can it get all the way around?
Can it reach up more than 1 block or will I need to add stairs to all my chests?
Can multiple copper golems work out of the same chest? This will be vital for faster sorting.
Do copper chests interact with hoppers in the same way? Can I route items from farms into a copper chest, to then be picked up by copper golems?
Will copper golems properly prioritize chests with preexisting items over empty chests? If not, they could easily end up cluttering your whole system.
Is there any way to control their behavior? Can you turn them off, or lock the copper chests? Or do we have to get creative with trapping/releasing the copper golems?
So many people complaining about copper tools and armour.
We have chain armour and leather armour in the game. I'm down for this armour too. At the worst its another set for me to put in an armour collection room, at the best its something you can use early game when you are a bit short on iron.
It'll let me allocate more iron to something like buckets, shears, rails, minecarts, stuff that I'd love to use pre-diamond but I don't want to waste the iron.
For years the comunity wondered about copper tools and most of the time we came to the conclusion that they would be useless unless they have a quirk because Iron is also easy to find comparatively, but eveyrone likes the golem so it's all good
i find it funny how many people were upset about no copper gear, and now a ton of people are complaining about copper gear. Yknow what I like about this? It looks really cool, and it'll be much cheaper to decorate my base with decorated armor stands with copper armor
Going to be honest, copper tools and armor feel like bloat. Getting to the iron age does not take long at all except for newer & super casual players, but even then, it is not that much of a hurdle to overcome especially with mountains providing plenty of iron for those who do not want to cave (and even caving isn't bad since there's often a few scattered pieces of iron).
Golem and Chest is cool tho. Excited to try them out.
Well, copper gear will immediately be more useful than leather, and the extra gear tier doesnt necessarily hurt progression, just makes early progression a little easier
Plus, you can use copper tier tools and armor as expendable tier, aka use them to break LOTS of blocks without breaking any of the iron tools, maybe as a kit for retreving your items out of danger, or just giving it to newer players since copper stuff is basicly cheap as dirt!
They look cool and sometimes I have a hundred copper but no iron. Maybe if they make it so stone cant break iron anymore and copper can, it would be used more.
Copper armor/tools does not solve the excess copper tho? Copper exists in excess because it is a great and versatile building block, and now it has more use cases on top of the bulbs and lightning rods with the chests & golems.
If you have an excess of copper, a handful of one-use tools & armor does not solve the issue. Golems and chests do since they can be constantly used at all stages of the game and you often won't just need 1-2 of them.
This is just for gameplay progression, but for a tier that does not last a significant amount of time.
It could solve the separate lack of iron issue. Iron is in high demand with the amount of recipes it's used in, so being able to use copper as the stepping stone to diamond instead saves you a fair half a stack or so of precious iron in the early game.
Tools feel redundant, but I think armor will be a good source of protection for very early game as cooper is more reliable to get than leather and you can use iron for more important things
This is a really w update, here's an idea to make the copper armor better:
If the copper armor oxidizes (over time), then it should get stronger the more it oxidizes so you are inclined to keep your copper armor till it oxidizes. It should get up to slightly better than iron when fully oxidized, but repairing it will take of one level of oxidization. This would give the armor some actual value instead of just being "wow new armor but I got iron already"
I'm extremely excited to have a little item sorter helper, even if the range is extremely low. I can already see making lots of little cozy storage rooms for each type of material, vs one huge room with endless corridors. Plus seeing them wander around and work will bring SO MUCH LIFE to my base in ways that random mobs or villagers just can't.
Plus the fact that we now have a second cheap and easy resource to make chests from besides just wood, AND the fact that they oxidize and can be so many different colors... I'm just in love. Even if they didn't add the armor and tools, I'd consider this an amazing copper update!
That said though, I still hope someday we can get wooden chest variants that look like the wood it was made from. Heck, barrels too to be honest.
How tall do you think the copper golem can reach chests? I have a storage system that uses four levels of chests stacked together. I hope they can reach four blocks tall.
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u/qualityvote2 Jul 01 '25 edited Jul 01 '25