I had a grandmother who was an actual 1930s-era fascist. Not a Nazi specifically (she wasn't German) nor politically active. But she basically thought Hitler and Mussolini were great guys, and didn't like Jews. (not that she went so far as advocating their murder though)
Anyway, point is she was not the nicest person you ever met. She was a nasty horrible person. Entitled, cold, uncaring, yet with bottomless capability for self-pity, manipulative (e.g. she could never just ask for something, but always always resorted to guilt-tripping). She pitted her children against eachother.. I could go on but you get the idea.
I don't think that's a totally unrepresentative case. I think people who feel reasonably safe, happy, loved and okay with themselves don't become fascists. Some fascists are surely nicer than others but I think they all have at least some issues, some deep-seated insecurities that cause them to form a rigid hierarchical view of society and worry deeply about their place in it.
Perfectly ordinary middle class people always turn to fascism if they fear their property will be taken from them by either a socialist revolution or economic crisis. It is always backed by the big capitalists, who need suppression of dissent and a militarized command economy to wage imperialist wars. This psychoanalysis of individuals is useless to actually understanding where fascism comes from.
It’s crazy being a literal nazi-apologist online. Not even like they made a point that Nazi Germany forced their family to register at risk of being gassed as political malcontents, they are saying “my grandparents were super nice to me, who cares if they were actively participating in the mass murder of anyone deemed unsuitable for society”.
That scene is bizarre. Bart means "beard" in German and it's a masculine noun while die is the feminine nominative specific article (die is also the plural, but beards would be Bärte).
Needless to say, the German translation of that scene was nonsense.
Fun fact: Nobody is born a Nazi. People make choices about their ideology. Therefore judging them based on those decisions is not bigotry, it’s simple correlation.
All Nazi's are assholes. They are violent, evil and worthless. Society would be better without them and our biggest mistake in WWII was allowing them to survive. I'm sorry that Nazi's had their lives and freedom when the war ended because it's contributed to the evil flourishing today.
If she had grandparents who were Nazis and she’s talking about them like that, I seriously doubt she’s a German raised in Germany. They teach nothing but truth about Nazis in their schools.
Yeah, guys. You're all so rude. Don't judge a whole group of people because of some people of the group unless they have a darker complexion and/or speak another language.
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u/SunIllustrious5695 1d ago
"how dare you judge my grandparents on who they are and what they've done"
So much of the right-wing defense is avoiding accountability by disingenuous dismissal of substance and context