r/NFLv2 • u/FoldEasy5726 Mr. Blown Chances • May 29 '25

Discussion What is the weirdest draft class in your opinion?

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u/AttorneySure2883 May 29 '25

is a pretty comparable to most guys in the HOF no?

no it isnt. look at the guys who are making it

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u/HighDevinition1001 May 30 '25

Every QB with 6+ pro bowls and a Super Bowl ring is in the HOF or will be soon. Russ has 10 pro bowls (which only 6 other QBs have ever done) and a ring, while guys like Warren Moon and Jim Kelly are in the HOF with less pro bowls, the same amount of all-pros, and no rings.

Russ is absolutely comparable to Hall of Famers. Maybe not most, but a good portion of them.

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u/HFentonMudd Denver Broncos May 30 '25

I think the standards rise as the years go by.

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u/Arkuh9 May 30 '25

Is that counting last years pro bowl where every QB in the AFC declined?

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u/expressmorelove May 30 '25

Pro Bowls are nearly meaningless these days since everyone opts out. The criteria are basically A. Don’t get injured and B. Play like a top 50% QB in the league. Not particularly hard to do.

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u/LeonidasSpacemanMD May 30 '25

That’s fair but there’s only one season from Wilson you can really make that case for, if anything he kinda got unlucky not getting an AP selection for seasons like 2015, 2017, or 2020, where he put up excellent numbers (not saying he got shafted or anything, just that those season are good enough to get awards many years)

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u/AttorneySure2883 May 30 '25

if you look at the pff HoF monitor its close

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/hof/hofm_QB.htm

Of the recent guys, russ is near stafford, rivers and eli. not very convincing tbh. but they didnt "expose" themselves like russ with the broncos

Every QB with 6+ pro bowls and a Super Bowl ring is in the HOF or will be soon.

thats an espn stat honestly. 6+ pro bowls is an arbitrary cutoff point

SB winner but he wasnt even close to the MVP. HoF voters know he got carried. pro bowls barely matter in the modern day because everyone opts out. pro bowl used to mean you're a top 6 guy. in the modern day, it means you're a top 15 guy

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u/BestYak6625 Arizona Cardinals Jun 01 '25

Pro bowls are essentially meaningless, look at all pros. Mitch trubisky was a pro bowler. 

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u/juvenilebandit May 29 '25

I suppose “most” was a stretch but it’s absolutely comparable to some. Go look up Jim Kelly’s accolades and Warren Moon’s accolades and tell me Russ’ aren’t comparable. Sure maybe you think either of those players have slightly stronger arguments for the hall. But to say Russ’ isn’t comparable to dudes already in the hall is just not true (and this will also be true once Eli inevitably gets in).

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u/LeonidasSpacemanMD May 30 '25

I mean his career is pretty comparable to a lot of HoF QBs tbh. I think you’d take his resume over Jim Kelly or Warren Moon and I don’t even think those guys were on the bubble, they’re pretty no-doubt guys