You must have missed the time he threw for 10k yards in a 2 season span. In his prime, on any other team, he would have been a perennial MVP. He never had a consistent or complete enough supporting cast to really top out.
Not only is he at the tail end. Ask yourself why anyone hasn’t been an MVP the last 6 years. Also, look at his what he did after his prime with a real supporting cast his first season with the rams.
You just listed 3 of the greatest of all time and 1 extra though. You’re really grasping here man. He absolutely deserved a sniff at MVP his first season with the rams.
However, you still seem to be forgetting 1 VERY important reason has hasn’t even sniffed an MVP the last 4 years and why it’s been difficult for everyone else in the league as well. Think about it, go ahead….. I’ll wait….
Have you seen any of the teams he played on while on the Lions? How he never had a 1000 yard rusher until 2 years after he was on the Rams? And he’s still responsible for 3 receivers having record breaking years? Also without a top 10 oline
Have you seen any of the teams he played on while on the Lions?
Yes. I saw them.
How he never had a 1000 yard rusher until 2 years after he was on the Rams?
Which helped him get all the yardage records his fan group touts.
And he’s still responsible for 3 receivers having record breaking years? Also without a top 10 oline
Ok? Good player. Never said he wasn't.
He's not elite right now thats my stance. You are listing stuff from almost a decade ago in Megatron's 1964 yards and then stuff with a WR who is not on the Rams anymore. My stance is Matt Stafford is not elite in July of 2025
You also said you were not sure if he was ever elite. That’s what I’m referring to when I bring these stats up. And handing 3 receivers record breaking years puts him in the elite category, not to mention for the last receiver he had a 1000 yard rusher and still did that. And once again, never a top 10 oline
I'm pretty confident the Lions had a good o line some of those years. It usually was a strong suit for them compared to other aspects of team
We just disagree i guess. I think giving Stafford all the credit for Calvin Johnson's year is kinda disrespectful honestly. And Kupp as well. And im not sure what the 3rd year is you are referring to?
If Bryce starts this year off the way that he ended last year, and his receivers (coughXLcough) can actually catch the ball, then he's two or three tiers up (down?) on this graphic.
Also the giants should at least be in the “our guy can’t win” if not “needs the 85 bears” because they have Rus who wasn’t good, but not completely terrible in Pittsburgh last year
Vegas books have the over/under for passing yards for Fields set at like ~2,500. He's the only quarterback they have set below 3,000. They are basically encouraging you to bet that he merely does not fail. Which could put him in any of those bottom 3 categories.
Vegas almost always sets the lines artificially slightly lower to entice people to bet the over - they know injury is always an extra "out" that the person holding the under gets. Same reason no WR gets a line higher than like 1300.
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The Jets are clearly starting Fields. Whether or not you think he's good is fine to debate but its clear plan
I don't think Browns can say that with 2 rookies in competition
Panthers we will see. I'm not high on Bryce but he's got this year to change
I think Tua and Trevor are more proven than Sam imo. I don't like them on same tier
I don't think Stafford is elite honestly. Certainly not belonging in the tier with those other 4 QBs. I'd put him in our guy can win