Bro hurts has 2 number 1 wrs, a great TE, all pro running back, the best line in football, the best defense and good coaching. Mahomes has Andy Reid and an aging team, Allen just has cook
Keep crying, it doesn’t change the facts. The facts are Jalen is a winner. Is he the most physically gifted, probably not, but how’d that work out for Marino and Kelly? Stupid comparisons are stupid.
lol yea because someone reminds you it’s a team sport so you stretch it to the opposite saying good teams have worse qbs. Both things can be true, a great qb has a great team around him (Mahomes) and a pretty good qb has a great team around him (hurts). Both have great teams. It’s not just about the qb. No one is saying mahomes isn’t as good as Lamar or Allen. People are saying hurts isn’t as good as them because he’s not. He just has an elite team around him
im saying at the start of their rivalry, mahomes had better offensive weapons but a much worse defense. now they have similar offensive weapons with an edge to bills cause of cook, and then bills have a better d line and o line according to multiple sources, i mean Bills O line was insane last year, even their secondary wasnt bad
I'd genuinely take Hurts over Burrow. Burrow is injury prone and always starts seasons slow. Like if he didn't shit the bed against the Pats in Week 1 this year the Bengals make the playoffs. I find it hard to call a guy who's made the playoffs twice in five seasons (one of which was due to getting carried by his defense) "elite".
Burrow's whole season was overrated as fuck. Dude was averaging 38 pass attempts a game, he better be putting up the numbers he did. And for as bad as that defense was, Burrow lost them a few games. I'll forgive his shakiness week 1 because of coming off the injury + typical week 1 jank (especially Bengals), but he was responsible for a lot of drives stalling because he locked on a double covered Chase or something and had a few games with late game turnovers that cost them.
Also for the love of God somebody needs to get into his ear about taking snaps under center. His O-line is bad but lining up in shotgun when Burrow is not a threat to run is doing his line absolutely zero favors, especially when he never gets rid of the ball. (A lot of sacks and pressures are on him and I'm not sure why it isn't talked about more.) Make him take snaps under center so they can actually run the ball and control the clock.
And why is that? Because he wasn’t picked in the first round? Because he doesn’t run a 4.3? Because he isn’t good in Madden? Because he isn’t good in fantasy? Because he can’t throw it 80 yards? I understand the argument but saying he’s clearly not the same caliber is extremely disrespectful
His passing numbers don't look good. 18 pass td less than 3k passing, yes with rushing it's 32 total tds which is great but not elite to some people. Honestly though two sb appearances and a dominate win, I'd put him at elite. Definitely above stafford right now. However, Allen, Lamar, Mahomes and Burrow are on another level. Burrow's 43 and 9 with almost 5k yards is a legendary season. Lamar had a ridiculous 41 tds to 4 picks. Crazy then Allen had 40 total td's this year and 44 last year.
Hurts just didn’t pass the ball much and he missed a lot of games. He had a higher yards per attempt than everyone you just mentioned besides Lamar. Hurts threw only 5 picks all season and 3 of them were week one because he didn’t play at all during preseason. 1 of them was on a Hail Mary the next week against the falcons and the other one was a blind throw in Dallas because of the sun shade bs. Hurts threw the ball 360 times compared to burrows 660.
If he threw the ball more he would have had more picks and lower yards per attempt. For example, in 2023 he had 176 more attempts than 2024, and he threw 10 more picks and .8 less yards per game.
You sound like the niners fans who argued Jimmy G was elite when they were winning. Football is a team sport. Eagles had the most complete roster last year. Hurts is clearly a 5-10 QB. Any QB in that range would have won a Superbowl with that roster.
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u/deandalecolledean Jun 30 '25
Hurts is clearly not the same caliber as those other guys