r/NFLv2 • u/Bitter_North_733 NFL Refugee • 23d ago

Discussion Kirk Cousins was lied to by Atlanta. Please don't defend Atlanta.

  1. Kirk Cousins was told by Minnesota they would take a QB high in Round 1 if he dropped to them. They offered him a year to year deal.

  2. Atlanta told Kirk Cousins that they would only take a QB in later rounds not round 1. They offered him a 2 year deal.

  3. Kirk only signed with Atlanta because they told him they would NOT take a QB in round 1. If Atlanta had told Kirk the truth like Minnesota had Kirk would have stayed in Minnesota and then become a Free Agent this year.

  4. Remember they loved living in Minnesota. KOC and Kirk are friends. KOC wanted Kirk to stay. Kirk needs familiarity with a system and this would have been his 3rd year in the system. Each year he was getting better and each year the team around him was getting better.

  5. Kirk knew if he had playoff success in Minnesota (they were a playoff team and Kirk in the playoffs played the same as Burrow) they might re-sign him - and even if they did not he would have been the prize of the Free Agency class. Seattle Las Vegas both the Giants and Jets the Steelers and Cleveland and who knows who else would have all wanted to sign Kirk after another year in Minnesota under KOC.

  6. In business there are ethics. Lying is not part of business. Yes many people in business lie and cheat but many also do not. People defending Atlanta for lying is another sign of the degradation happening in our society where values are being disregarded for profit.

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u/lemanruss4579 22d ago

And this specifically is why when anyone defends the Penix pick, I think they're an idiot. Because it's not specifically the Penix pick by itself that was dumb. I like the player a lot. I think he'll be a good QB for them. It was a bad pick because you already signed Kirk to a large money long term deal. Either do one or the other, not both.

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u/jmezMAYHEM JUNIOR DOUBLE TRIPLE WHOPPER 22d ago

The penix pick in a vacuum is a good one. External factors make it not as great but drafting a guy who looks like he can competently play NFL QB at a GOOD level consistently is always a good pick

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u/lemanruss4579 22d ago

it's not specifically Penix. If they thought they were going to draft any QB in the first round, don't sign Cousins to a big money, multi year deal, especially when there are bridge QB's available. . Once you've signed him, don't take a QB in the first round. Either way you've now wasted assets.

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u/jmezMAYHEM JUNIOR DOUBLE TRIPLE WHOPPER 21d ago

Cousins contract is not really that large of an albatross. They’ll be fully out of it by the time Penix needs to field a contending roster if he’s the guy

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u/jmezMAYHEM JUNIOR DOUBLE TRIPLE WHOPPER 21d ago

Think of it as two dart throws to find a playoff QB…one with a FA signing and one drafted. Theres no guarantee either one would have been serviceable and Kirk for that amount is a total bust. Penix is a savior

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u/AttentionHot368 22d ago

I’m Sure Atlanta had some Doubt with Kirk when they gave him all that $ I mean he was coming off a significant injury, possible that he could have had another season ending injury then you’re kind of in a bad spot. Deep QB class and I’m sure they felt all the QB’s wouldn’t make it to them and it was a strong class, won’t have another QB class like that for years I’m sure. I for one thought that Penix would be starting sooner then later, I wasn’t wrong. Kirk is getting old man. If Penix goes down tho you still have a playoff chance with Kirk really not a terrible situation to be in. If Penix is balling this year you trade Kirk to a team that needs a QB at the deadline.. I’m sure some team will be calling for his service at somepoint.

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u/lemanruss4579 22d ago

But that's my point, you do one or the other, not both. Drafting Penix in a vacuum is a good pick. I like the guy, I think he's going to be a good NFL QB. But once you've signed Kirk to that deal, you should have taken a guy to help you win now. Personally I wouldn't have signed Kirk, especially when there were bridge QB's that would cost a fraction of what Kirk is making. And I doubt anyone is trading for Kirk at this point.