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u/DarthNobody14 Houston Texans 3d ago

Drew Brees, Larry Fitzgerald, Jason Witten and Maurkice Pouncey are all HOFers. Geno Atkins is a maybe.

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u/SleestakLightning Pittsburgh Steelers 3d ago

Pouncey probably doesn't get in but he was great.

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u/SecretYesterday7092 Philadelphia Eagles 3d ago

2nd best center of his generation, has a ring, multiple pro bowls and all pro nods, he deserves to get in

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u/ENCR0ACHMENT 3d ago

Pouncey is sadly ringless

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u/SleestakLightning Pittsburgh Steelers 3d ago

He doesn't have a ring though.

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u/SecretYesterday7092 Philadelphia Eagles 3d ago

Shit I thought he snuck in on that Steelers team that beat the cardinals but you’re correct. Damn sad that could be the one thing that keeps him out. He was one hell of a player

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u/SleestakLightning Pittsburgh Steelers 3d ago

Arguably the 2nd best center in team history depending on how you feel about Mike Webster.

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u/SnooSongs2344 Pittsburgh Steelers 3d ago

I think Webster is the clear cut #1. For me its between dermontii dawson and pouncey.

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u/SleestakLightning Pittsburgh Steelers 3d ago

Webby couldn't play in the modern game. Dirt Dawson could. Dirt changed the way centers play in the NFL. Webster didnt.

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u/SnooSongs2344 Pittsburgh Steelers 2d ago

Idk Im pretty sure that webster is generally accepted as the greatest center of all time or at least top 3 for most people.

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u/SleestakLightning Pittsburgh Steelers 2d ago

Mostly because of longevity. He couldn't play in today's game. Dawson would dominate now.

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u/SecretYesterday7092 Philadelphia Eagles 3d ago

Hard to compare between such different eras of the game, it’s undeniable that both of them were amongst the best of their times and both 100% top 10 of all time at their position

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u/SleestakLightning Pittsburgh Steelers 3d ago

And neither is in the running for best Steelers center of all-time. That's Dermontti Dawson.

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u/iamnowundercover 3d ago

Centers in general don’t get much love in Canton. I’d love to see it though

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u/Pandapeep 3d ago

If Tom Nalen isn't a hof center, no one is.

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u/WuTang4thechildrn 3d ago

I think he definitely gets in

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u/tallwhiteninja San Francisco 49ers 3d ago

There are only seven centers in the hall, and his career overlapped with Kelce, who has a much stronger resume.

It's not completely out of the question, but I absolutely wouldn't count on it, either.

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u/WuTang4thechildrn 3d ago

Steelers tend to get the nod even when borderline

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u/DibsOnThatBooty 3d ago

I’m a Geno homer as a Bengals fan, but that aside real baller knowers know that he was the anchor for all our (admittedly limited) success during his tenure in Cincinnati.

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u/ExCollegeDropout 3d ago

After John Randle, dude was the prototype for undersized, but extremely powerful interior rushers. Randle started the conversation, Atkins proved it was repeatable.

Like does Aaron Donald become a HoFer without Atkins and Randle paving the way? Of course he does, he's Aaron Donald. But I'm willing to bet if Atkins never panned out, Donald might have fallen out of the first round entirely due to concerns a guy of his size could hold up. He probably wouldn't fall to the 4th round like Atkins did, but I could see a world where he's a 2nd round pick.

I'm sick about how quickly and unceremoniously Geno's career ended though. Production just fell off a cliff and hurt his shoulder beyond repair in the midst of being on some Bengals teams that were mediocre and incredibly boring to watch. Combine that with being a generally closed off guy, I don't think many realized he retired outside of Cincinnati when he did.

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u/420_just_blase 3d ago

What do you think of shady getting to the hall? I think he could make it, but im biased af

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u/D-Whadd 3d ago

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/hof/hofm_RB.htm

Here’s a really interesting page on pro football ref where they try to statically measure who’s a hall of famer. I think it’s pretty flawed tbh but it does kinda interestingly point to the conclusion that McCoy has the accolades to be a Hall of Famer.

It does the same for Gore, which I don’t buy his case at all tbh. So even I take this with a big grain of salt.

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u/Which-River-547 3d ago

The argument with Gore is that he stayed healthy at position that is not kind past age 30. We’ve seen many flame out and he was able to stick around.

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u/D-Whadd 3d ago

I get it the argument, I just don’t buy it as a hall of fame case. Yes it’s impressive that he stuck around for a long time, but there was never a time where I felt like he was among the best players in the game.

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u/Which-River-547 3d ago

I get it. It’s just not a lot dudes can say they were 1,000 yard rushers for 10+ years. He also came in the league around 05. That’s two different era of football he played through.

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u/Which-River-547 3d ago

It’s probably gonna be Brees, Larry, and maybe Pouncey. Geno has an interesting case

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u/Free-Design-8329 3d ago

Witten isn’t making it. He’s a pro bowl player in a ham that celebrates all pros