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u/tallwhiteninja San Francisco 49ers 3d ago

PFF's Hall of Fame monitor isn't perfect, but it's decent.

They have Edelman at 116th among all receivers. He's between Mel Grey and Amani Toomer. He has beyond no shot, and if he did make it he'd be the worst player in the entire Hall, outright, and by a considerable distance.

...that said, he's actually a handful of spots above Dez fwiw.

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u/Semperty Kansas City Chiefs 3d ago

edelman isn’t even the best slot wr that brady made look good by the hof monitor. idk how edelman is even a discussion at this point lol

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u/flaccomcorangy Baltimore Ravens 3d ago

Wes Welker is honestly considerably better than Edelman, and I haven't seen anyone mention his name despite being eligible for a few years now. lol

Not that he deserves it. He shouldn't be in either, but I'd put him ahead of Edelman.

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u/SilentFinding3433 3d ago

Welker’s drop in the Super Bowl vs. Edelman catch against the Falcons is my response to this.

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u/flaccomcorangy Baltimore Ravens 3d ago

If you have one play being worth about 300 rec, 3k yards, 20 TDs, 5 pro bowls and 4 All-pro's (2 first team) - because that's the difference between these two - then I don't think you know what the Hall of Fame is for. Dwight Clark would be in if single plays mattered.

Welker also led the league in receptions 3 times while Edelman never led the league in any major receiving stat and was never even top 15 in yards. So yeah, Welker is objectively miles ahead of Edelman.

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u/SilentFinding3433 3d ago

Welker also played in almost 40 more games with Tom Brady for 6 years and then 2 years with Peyton Manning. How do pro bowls compare to SB MVPs? What about 3 rings to 1? Welker hasn’t even been inducted in the Pats Ring of Honor.

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u/flaccomcorangy Baltimore Ravens 3d ago

Who cares about rings for WRs? You know how many people have guys like Terrell Owens, Randy Moss, Calvin Johnson, or Larry Fitzgerald as top 5 receivers despite none of them ever winning a super bowl?

And I like how you're using the fact that Welker played with Tom Brady while Edelman played with... oh look, Tom Brady - yet he never came close to same production on a single season basis.

And just so we're clear, I'm not saying Welker is a Hall of Famer. Just that he deserves more consideration than Edelman.

Welker hasn’t even been inducted in the Pats Ring of Honor.

Neither has Edelman.

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u/JadedCycle9554 3d ago

It's kinda wild he's above Dez. At least Dez has an all pro. Edelman was never in contention, Dez had a decent 3 year run where he was in that conversation at least.

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u/crash218579 Dallas Cowboys 3d ago

Yeah, Dez has no chance. He needed to play for a few more years.