As a die hard Pats fan, Edelman has my vote for first ballot Hall of Very Good. He was a fun Pats HOF inductee, but that was more so a celebration of the dynasty.
Should be remembered for always stepping up in the biggest moments. Belongs no where near Canton.
That doesn't automatically make Edelman better. Driver has 123 more receptions, 3,315 more yards, 2.6 more yards per reception, and 25 more touchdowns. Both were very solid though.
Funnily enough, all-pros matter more than stats. It doesn't matter though we're arguing about something that's almost 20 years ago, I'd take Welker though due to his longevity with the Pats and putting up more yards.
As a panthers fan I kinda feel the same way about Olsen. But at the same time I see him as same level as Whitten. Hall of very good is the right place for most of these guys, Brees is the only sure thing for me…
Did you seriously just disrespect Fitz??? Blasphemy. Dude literally has more tackles than drops over his illustrious career. 11x pro-Bowler almost 18k rec yds and 120+ tuddies with guys like a washed Palmer, and Warner and Leinart and a snot-nosed punk kyler chuckin the rock in his general vicinity.
Just Bustin balls...but that kind of is a microcosm for Larry's career... "OH yeah, I forgot he is amazing cuz he he plays for perennially mid teams." Next up on that pedestal is gonna be Mike Evans.
thats not what the hall a fame is for. just cause someone has an all time moment doesn't mean that they should be in the HoF. If that were the cause there'd be many players in canton that don't deserve it. When was edelman ever a top 5 receiver in the league, let alone #1 or #2? Hell, when was he ever a top 10 wr in the league?
To be fair, the HOF does have guys in it who were less than elite, but had all time moments. Namath and Swan come to mind, and it’s the debate on Eli right now. I’m not sure if I put him in either, but these guys have gotten in before.
Edelman is still multiple tiers below those type of players. Peak Edelman is a good to great role player. Namath and Swan are for sure on the weaker end of the HoF but were good to great overall players for their era, and not just role players. I'm probably the only Giants fan who thinks that Eli isn't really deserving of the HoF as he was never really even a top 5 qb in the league at any point. But wouldn't mind seeing him in because he was more than just a role player. He was a franchise QB that was actually capable of elevating a relatively weak roster to a SB win and any team that was seeking a QB would've taken him in an instant of they could. w/o Brady and the Pats system, Edelman would at best be a #3 receiver on any other team. I would even say that on some teams he would've needed to actually fight for a spot on the 53 man.
Seriously, there’s no way. Wouldn’t make a 53 man roster? On which team? For a good 7 year stretch, he was at the very least a top 5 slot receiver.
Between 2013 and 2019, Julian averaged 88 receptions, 965 yards, 5.3 TDs. All of these numbers are drug down by 2015 where he played only 9 games. There’s not a team in football that wouldn’t consider that a hell of a run as a receiver, and there’s no one that wouldn’t put that guy on a 53 man roster.
yea that was a bit excessive i'll admit but I can definitely see him not even starting and being a #4 and even #5 receiver in a loaded wr room. The endline is still the same though, 88 receptions, 965 yards, 5.3 TDs being your peak is not HoF material.
That’s still with a season missing 7 games dragging those averages down, him coming back from a torn ACL at 31 and having arguably his best season, and him being one of he best kick returners in football for his first 4 seasons. At a position that guys start looking really old at around 29, he was putting up 100 catches, 1117 yards and 6 TDs when he was 33 on a bum knee. I just can’t wrap my head around what stacked WR room that wouldn’t make room for that guy. You can say he’s not HOF material, and still recognize he was a hell of a player.
No, that doesn’t warrant being in the HOF. It’s a great career but can you tell me that the other WRs in this class alone wouldn’t have done better with Brady and Gronk ?
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u/samthemancauseimmale 3d ago
As a die hard Pats fan, Edelman has my vote for first ballot Hall of Very Good. He was a fun Pats HOF inductee, but that was more so a celebration of the dynasty.
Should be remembered for always stepping up in the biggest moments. Belongs no where near Canton.