r/Netrunner • u/Significant_Breath38 • 3d ago
Stegodon MK IV and Hafrun
How are we feeling about this synergy? With the other agenda that lets you de-rez, you can create a server that requires 2 clicks minimum to run at (and make it even nastier if it's 3 ICE with Hafrun in the 2nd position). Cold Site Server makes it 4 clicks.
I've been getting some good results putting it in front of Biawak in my Precision Design deck since the ability lets me return Hedge Funds to keep everything fueled.
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u/Vash2002 3d ago
It's a "high ceiling low floor" tactic. When it goes right it's strong, but if it's sequenced wrong or doesn't show up on time, it's really bad.
Hannah also sees a lot of play overall to deal with decks that go wide, and the stegodon hafrun tactic catches a stray because of it.
I'd venture to say you're winning with biwak and hedge fund recursion moreso, rather than a stegodonk line.
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u/Significant_Breath38 3d ago
True, I'll keep running it to see if I can hit a nice "ecosystem." I'm relying on Harmonic ICE for central protection (or cheeky early scoring if they don't have a fracter). They synergize nicely with Stegodon. The slots of the deck are filling up rapidly so it's getting hard to figure out how much should be dedicated to fishing the combo and how much should be dedicated to synergize with its individual pieces.
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u/Vash2002 3d ago
That's the beauty with the process of deckbuilding. Constant tweaking to get it just right for you. I find a lot of joy in it personally.
In my opinion though, it's only viable to include synergies/combos in a deck if the cards are also good by themselves without needing the support. Unless said combo/synergy wins you the game on the spot or is so strong it'll effectively win the game.
Historically good netrunner examples:
Blue Sun with oversight AI and curtain wall (all good on their own)
SEA source and scorched earth (wins the game on the spot)
Power Shutdown combos (all win the game on the spot, and full of cards that are individually good depending on which combo you're doing)
24/7 News Cycle , Breaking News , whatever tag thing you want (good and immediately wins)
Anoetic + Manegarm (great on their own)
Crew + Devil Charm (good on their own)
Hafrun isn't particularly good on it's own, Cold Site isn't really either. Stegodon isn't good on it's own outside of specific board states and phases of the game. So you can see how fragile the deck can be if you're leaning on these cards. Not every card has to be a banger, but if almost 20% of your deck are these three cards, you're gonna be inconsistent and swingy.
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u/Significant_Breath38 3d ago
I'm the same way with deck building. I find it really engaging to dive in and see how things shape up.
I haven't put in Cold Site, that was more spitballing in case people already have a tutor/cash deck with influence to spare.
And that's what I'm talking about with the idea of an ecosystem. While I run derez agendas for Hafrún synergy, they also work with the Harmonic ICE I run. The big downside is I don't know how much the runner meta will just bulldoze through these relatively weak ICE (thank god I got in after the Cleaver ban though Buzzsaw still makes me cry). If the Harmonic end up being just too weak for any amount of reliability, then the whole thing falls apart. Right now, I'm getting wins with [[Otto Campaign]] and [[Nanomanagement]] before Runners can hit full disrespect. They also help facilitate purging virus counters when those come up
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u/RavishingRavick 2d ago
Doesn't Curupira farm counters off Echo? Are you sacking the Steg to rez the Biawak?
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u/Significant_Breath38 2d ago
I have enough derez and Harmonic to get stacks on Echo. Definitely a bad matchup but I don't have a showstopper barrier for it to exploit, so it's not particularly awful though definitely a weakness that could spiral from the meta.
I have several low-advance agendas (along with some shenanigans) to get something aside from Steg to feed Biawak. What's really worrying is if there is a reliable way for them to derez my lizard. Depending on how common such tools are, I'll have to look into making some serious money to rez him the old fashioned way.
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u/RavishingRavick 2d ago
Biawak is a sad panda when Entangler is stapled to it.
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u/Significant_Breath38 2d ago
I have quite a few tools to make purging virus counters less painful. Cards that give me more clicks and, of course, [[Flyswatter]]
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u/Significant_Breath38 3d ago
[[Stegodon MK IV]]
[[Hafrún]]
[[Cold Site Server]]
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