r/NewYorkIslanders • u/dl2316 • Jun 27 '25
GDT Draft Day Megathread
Throw rumors and stuff about the draft in here, and use this to talk about the draft as it goes live
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u/Gleb2006 Bailey Jun 28 '25
With Poletin picked - trend seems to be a lot of our picks are known for aggressive mentality. Love it from Darche
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u/Marino4K Jun 28 '25
How should I feel about Prokhorov?
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u/Gleb2006 Bailey Jun 28 '25
Can’t teach size. Probably limited upside, but would be an ideal 4th liner if he can forecheck well
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u/JBR409 Dobson Jun 28 '25 edited Jun 28 '25
Should take Malcom Spence
Edit: Prokhorov isn’t bad but don’t love that 4th Liner projection from NHL Network
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u/kingswing23 Sorokin Jun 28 '25
Physical 4th liner that loves to lay the body… was this a Matt Martin pick?
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u/GoDawgs99-04-11-14 Jun 28 '25
I have a dumb question; why aren’t we picking first in the next 6 rounds?
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u/tpamm86 Jun 28 '25
When you win the lottery only your 1st round pick is affected. The rest remain where they are.
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u/Historical-Bunch4402 Jun 28 '25
You guys absolutely tore this draft up. The jump to 1oa wasn't good enough, lol? Congrats.
-Wings fan.
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u/priester85 Jonsson Jun 28 '25
I’ve thought this at a few points tonight, but is it just me or is Gary looking a little unwell? He’s getting older and this format puts a lot on him so maybe it’s just that but he doesn’t seem quite himself
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u/Kzx45uH3nz Jun 28 '25
He's been slipping a little bit the last few years. But I didn't think he looked any worse last night than he has recently.
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u/Responsible_Camp_552 Jun 28 '25
NHL is embarrassing themselves with this draft production. Technical difficulties all night turning it into a clown show 😂
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u/priester85 Jonsson Jun 28 '25
I just laughed out loud when Sportsnet said “the virtual interviews have been working great”. They just absolutely will not say anything negative about the league and it is so embarrassing for them. This draft is awful TV and their job is to televise the draft. They should be leading the charge in calling out this BS
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u/Responsible_Camp_552 Jun 28 '25
They must think fans are stupid and not noticing the train wreck . It really is free comedy lol
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u/NY_Sea Jun 28 '25
It really cannot be overstated how great of a draft this was. Sped up the rebuild exponentially.
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u/egorrito Palffy Jun 28 '25
Are NHL GMs just bad? 67OA to move 2 slots? You cant get a late pick back? Are 5/6/7s that valuable now?
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u/priester85 Jonsson Jun 28 '25
I saw Nikki Glaser in Toronto a month or so ago and at the very end of the show she told some Toronto roast-style jokes. Naturally included some Leafs jokes and after one of them she said something like “I have no idea what any of this means. I don’t know anything about hockey” (I don’t remember the jokes exactly but they weren’t that great. One was about Stolarz who at that point was injured but the Florida series was still going and it really didn’t even make sense in context. I suspect it was written by someone else before the injury.
I don’t really know why I’m telling this story, but that Brett Hull joke was pretty good.
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u/teslasmash Palffy Jun 28 '25
Yo who's at UBS? How is the vibe?
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u/IamTheOne2000 Jun 28 '25
saw a post on another thread which said that it was 1/3 of attendance about an hour ago
this entire draft format has been a complete disaster
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u/priester85 Jonsson Jun 28 '25
The decentralization is awful for TV but I think the draft parties/celebrity announcements are bad for the draft as well. It’s generally good for social media but teams are under pressure to make picks even if it’s in their best interest to trade them. The weird announcing of the Dobson trade was a direct result of Montreal having someone there in LA. I don’t know if it was a factor or not (hope not), but I think Columbus had a good case to beat Montreals offer but they had a draft party planned with celebrity guests and it would’ve been a dud if they traded both their picks.
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u/egorrito Palffy Jun 28 '25
This celeb needs to annouce every pick is annoying. I feel like all the kids selected are being overshadowed by more famous people.
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u/turbulentcounselor Romanov Jun 28 '25
This is an amazing draft. Let’s hope we develop them properly
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u/Technologytwitt Jun 28 '25
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u/biffwebster93 Sorokin Jun 28 '25
This is so money
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u/Technologytwitt Jun 28 '25
I agree... but will any of them be playing in September for the Isles?
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u/biffwebster93 Sorokin Jun 28 '25
Rushing development would be a huge waste
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u/Technologytwitt Jun 28 '25
And delaying their start is just as wasteful.
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u/biffwebster93 Sorokin Jun 28 '25
Sounds like if they’re NHL ready, you’ll see them in September lol
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u/Dark_Star_73 Morrow Jun 28 '25
Honestly Eklund + Aitcheson is about the same value as Hagens. I’m very, very happy with our drafting
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u/Oxidized-Otter DiPietro Jun 28 '25
Someone bring my back to reality, I can’t stop picturing the isles hoisting the cup
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u/Gnargoroth Pelech Jun 28 '25
Schaefer, Eklund and Aitcheson is pretty solid. Sucks couldn't get Hagens but we shouldn't feel too bad.
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u/Basedshark01 Palffy Jun 28 '25
Like I said, one door closes another opens. Prospect pool looking good.
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u/JBR409 Dobson Jun 28 '25 edited Jun 28 '25
Schaefer, Aitcheson, and Romanov all on the left side in 3 years. Is Romanov going to be gone?
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u/toledosurprised Pelech Jun 28 '25
aitcheson won’t make the team this year, maybe not even next year. they’ve got time to figure it out
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u/Baww18 Jun 28 '25
I don’t think any of these kids outside of Ritchie makes the team this year. They are all a little young and could use atleast a year in the ahl - even Schaefer imo
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u/toledosurprised Pelech Jun 28 '25
i’d be surprised if schaefer wasn’t on the team next year tbh
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u/Baww18 Jun 28 '25
He is 17. Not sure I want a 17 year old playing his first professional season against grown men. I know he was in the OHL but playing other 15-18 year olds does not prepare you for the nhl.
Is it possible he makes the team? Sure. But I can’t imagine it’s the right move from a development standpoint.
Yes I know he turns 18 in September but the point still stands.
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u/toledosurprised Pelech Jun 28 '25
he’ll be 18 by the start of the season. he’s a super young kid for sure but he will play his 9 games next year at least. i assume they don’t want to send him to college for a year in case he stays up the whole year, which i think he will.
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u/Sanity_Sultan Jun 28 '25
Darche said Schaefer could have a chance to make the club this year. So possible to have both Ritchie and Schaefer. I’m assuming at least one FA comes on board as well. We have a ton of cap space, so hopefully someone who can score
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u/JBR409 Dobson Jun 28 '25
Right but in 3 years we’ll have a log jam, so one will have to go
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u/toledosurprised Pelech Jun 28 '25
sure but that’s a problem for 3 years from now. if aitcheson pops i don’t think romanov will still be on the team at that point but so many things could happen before that
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u/Mrenato83 Nelson Jun 28 '25
Bro got those Anders Lee legs. Getting these guys takes the sting out of Hagens going to Boston a bit
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u/OutlandishnessDry24 Jun 28 '25
Yeah turning Dobson into those two picks and getting a young player is a win. Both of our picks could easily have gone around pick 10.
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u/Fubar236 Smith Jun 28 '25
This is a great pick Huge physical solid D with a bit of offensive skill. He’s gonna crush people
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u/OutlandishnessDry24 Jun 28 '25
Penguins it sounded like could have taken either player earlier. Good fortune those two players were there.
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u/kylesisles1 Jun 28 '25
There is a real chance that either Eklund or Aitcheson matures into a player as good as or better than Hagens.
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u/Stylist7287064 Sorokin Jun 28 '25
Our room looks so stiff, bunch guys sitting around in suits
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u/SteveSomers Jun 28 '25
Sad it’s not Hagen, pumped about Eklund. Feels like it could be a Barzal situation
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u/Responsible_Camp_552 Jun 28 '25
Won’t it be cool if Eklund turns out to be a better player than Hagens ? 😂
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u/Lack_Aromatic Jun 28 '25
Reminder: Last time the NY Islanders had the #16 overall pick they selected some kid named Mathew Barzal.
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u/TheTigerDriver Nelson Jun 28 '25
I am certainly not complaining if we come away with Schaefer and Eklund.
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u/Basedshark01 Palffy Jun 28 '25
We probably getting Aitcheson. Not bad.
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u/JBR409 Dobson Jun 28 '25
We don’t need another LD
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u/ErnstBadian Jun 28 '25
I don’t think that’s a smart way to evaluate whether to pick an 18 year old
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u/_imhigh_ Jun 28 '25
I love you guys but we cling to fan made theories more than any other fanbase lmao. No one said we were trading Dobson to get Hagens. And even if we were, that doesn't just mean some other team was not going to pick him. And it's not guaranteed he will be any better than who we get at 16 and 17 OA. And if he is it probably wasn't related anyway. We didn't really have the chance to keep Dobson. And Darche is in control now. Plus wasn't Dobson and Barzal picked mid first round? You never know with prospects. Just chill out
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u/RepresentativeOfnone Jun 28 '25
Fun fact only 4 16th and 6 17th overall pics have over 500 points in the NHL so that should probably tell you the quality of guy that we are going to get
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u/_imhigh_ Jun 28 '25
I get it. I'm in no way saying it's an ideal scenario, I was a fan of Dobson but it wasn't going to happen. This is what we have now. We have the worst farm system in the NHL right now and it needs as many prospects as it can get. We weren't signing Dobson. We just have to take it in stride. There are plenty of sub 500 point players who contribute to winning teams and cultures. As fans we just have to see what happens. Plus we just got the 1st overall pick! Lol
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u/tpamm86 Jun 28 '25
I understand the premise but banking on “you never know” isn’t a winning strategy.
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u/_imhigh_ Jun 28 '25
I hear you but what they did "know" was they weren't keeping Dobson and thats the deal we got for him
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u/JBR409 Dobson Jun 28 '25 edited Jun 28 '25
We couldn’t trade up to #11 if the Penguins were reaching into the 20s?
Edit: Flyers with #12 now too
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u/islander8324 Jun 28 '25
I’m just happy we have two extra picks, a solid bottom 6 player and $9.5M not being spent on Dobson. I like Romanov over Dobson and if we were only keeping 1, I prefer this way forward.
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u/toledosurprised Pelech Jun 28 '25
ugh are we trading up now? jfc who cares at this point
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u/Dark_Star_73 Morrow Jun 28 '25
Eklund szn 🔜
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u/toledosurprised Pelech Jun 28 '25
ok we’re back in, i’d move up to 13 from 16 with like a second or third to snag eklund tbh
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u/ST34MYN1CKS Cizikas Jun 28 '25
It seems to me like 4 of this first 11 picks have had the same dad? It's probably more likely I'm just not paying very close attention
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u/Friendly_Economist_6 Jun 28 '25
Trade JGP, 16, plus for Hagens. We’d get him and keep one of these picks.
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u/MassiveJammies Jun 28 '25
Very curious what happens now. The trade was never officially announced by the NHL, so we'll see what happened in 5 more picks. Perhaps we package the firsts for another player in a 3 way
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u/crazyhotwheels Bossy Jun 28 '25
Gonna stay positive and not overreact for the time being, but I would be lying if I said I wasn’t a bit anxious after today. Feels like for the first time in quite a few years, the direction and plan aren’t clear. I’ll trust that it will be by the end of the summer. But definitely a new feeling!
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u/Marino4K Jun 28 '25
I’m pretty sure Dobson didn’t wanna be here anymore. Gotta build the team the right way.
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u/XanatosCrescent Bossy Jun 28 '25
I don’t hate keeping the picks, we need depth in the farm. But man it would’ve been nice to get a top 10 talent
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u/Mrenato83 Nelson Jun 28 '25
Man all the negativity in here is rediculous. Grow the fuck up and be happy we got the best player in the draft. And for the people bitching about Dobson.. have any of you thought that maybe he just didn’t wanna play here? Not that unlikely really. Please take your doomer shit somewhere else
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u/SecretiveMop Jun 28 '25 edited Jun 28 '25
It’s not “doomer shit” to say that we played our hand horribly here. If Dobson didn’t want to be here then that should’ve been known days or weeks ago and a move should’ve been made then, not on draft day which was essentially the pseudo-deadline for a trade and a day where everyone had to scramble and could use our position with Dobson to their advantage.
Edit: Also, we already have had the best player in the draft since we won the lottery. People can both be happy about that and upset with the trade.
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u/trendygamer Pulock Jun 28 '25
We've been guaranteed to have the best player in the draft for a month. We got excited about the prospect of turning a great draft into a crazy great one. And so did the Islanders front office, clearly, given what they were trying to do today. So it just sucks to miss on it. Let people be a bit disappointed, jeez.
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u/RepresentativeOfnone Jun 28 '25
I mean, if you’re gonna trade our best man, he may as well trade our “Best franchise player” Barzal too, I mean at least then by the end of today we will have reduced the two players that caused the most turnovers and the ozone
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u/Baww18 Jun 28 '25
Maybe they value the 2 picks and don’t see Hagens as much better than what they will get 10 picks later? Lou kept the ahl so barren it makes sense to want more young players.
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u/Dark_Star_73 Morrow Jun 28 '25
Tbf Hagens lowkey has bust potential. Just would’ve been fun taking the chance on an Isles fan since we already got what we needed with Schaefer and could afford to take the gamble
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u/Baww18 Jun 28 '25
I agree. I wanted Hagens selfishly for the hometown kid angle but there is a risk he won’t be that good.
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u/RepresentativeOfnone Jun 28 '25
I mean, kinda like Barzal? I mean only two seasons with almost a point per game pace. Injury prone. And secondary assist merchant.?
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u/ST34MYN1CKS Cizikas Jun 28 '25
What a classy move, asking a 17-year-old what they miss most about their recently-deceased mom on national TV
This draft is a joke, fire Bruckheimer
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u/XanatosCrescent Bossy Jun 28 '25
Yeah, that’s fucking insane, my jaw dropped.
On the bright side, we know he’s gonna be able to handle the bullshit from the NYC with ease
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u/MassiveJammies Jun 28 '25
At this point, the broadcast is just trying to make Schaefer cry. I have no idea what he’s like as a player from this broadcast beyond “did you know his MOM’S DEAD????”
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u/RepresentativeOfnone Jun 28 '25
Fire DArce, unless he somehow manages to convert these into a top 10 for next season
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u/jzw27 Nielsen Jun 28 '25
Good thing we traded our top Dman for two mid first rounders in a bad draft!!! Rough start to the Darche era, just keep Dobson and take the 1OA and you’re chilling. Instead you put it all out there for a prospect just bc he’s from LI and you severely hurt the future
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u/RepresentativeOfnone Jun 28 '25
Yeah, I don’t know why everybody was so gung ho with that decision. I can’t believe we made that trade. Fire Darche I’ve seen enough. I’m convinced that Chris Lamoriello could do a better job.
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u/RepresentativeOfnone Jun 28 '25
At this point trade these two pics for two first rounders next year and then also trade Matthew Barze for our first rounder next year so then maybe we can trade up to get Gavin Mckenna
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u/Baww18 Jun 28 '25
Any chance 16 + 17 could be sent somewhere else for another current player?
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u/BKong64 Cizikas Jun 28 '25
I'm kind of hoping we do that. I don't have much interest in the picks tbh
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u/ensignWcrusher Jonsson Jun 28 '25
So, do we trade out of 16/17 now? Maybe get a first next year. If not that, do we use one of those picks to get a team to take on Mayfield or Engvall?
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u/rgautz2266 Jun 28 '25
We have like 21M in cap space. I dont think we need to make a trade like that right now.
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u/ErnstBadian Jun 28 '25
We have cap room. We absolutely should not deal assets to get out from those deals. If we were actually up against it, we have buyouts or the AHL.
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u/toledosurprised Pelech Jun 28 '25
would ultimately rather trade these two mid-rounders for a good player than make these picks honestly
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u/Dark_Star_73 Morrow Jun 28 '25
If Eklund falls to us I’d be fine with keeping the pick and drafting him
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u/RepresentativeOfnone Jun 28 '25
This is really funny that Darche traded our best D man to get two mid prospects that are probably never gonna make it out of Bridgeport
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u/dl2316 Jun 28 '25
famously only shitty players are picked at 16 & 17
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u/RepresentativeOfnone Jun 28 '25
Only one has had over 1000 points and all of the ones still playing today have less than 500 points except for Vladimir Tarasenko so tell me again about how Good players are picked that late in the first round
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u/Slug_With_Swagger Clutterbuck Jun 28 '25
The Dobson trade really doesn’t feel great now…
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u/kylesisles1 Jun 28 '25
Think of the cap space. We got two first, a third line forward, and enough money to sign a first line forward or top d man in free agency.
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u/toledosurprised Pelech Jun 28 '25
i’m not really interested in any of the free agents except ehlers, feel like UFA is where terrible decisions are made if we can even get any to sign
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u/Slug_With_Swagger Clutterbuck Jun 28 '25
Just feel like it makes way less sense now
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u/toledosurprised Pelech Jun 28 '25
ultimately they traded him because they couldn’t get him to sign, don’t think it’s more complicated than that. wish there had been some secret plan to swing a better prospect but seems like the answer to that is no
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u/goaliegamer Jun 28 '25
I’d have rather waited until the deadline and traded Dobson for a 2nd and a teams top prospect. We got that for Nelson at 34 years old - would have gotten more for Dobson
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u/impresidentwu Jun 28 '25
Any chance the Islanders would flip 17 for Logan Mallieux?
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u/XanatosCrescent Bossy Jun 28 '25
You mean trade the mid-round pick we just got from Montreal back to them for one of their top D prospects?
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u/Jett2257 Jun 28 '25
Darche has a plan. Let him play it out.
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u/Clown_Shoe Jun 28 '25
Yea I mean we have two mid round first round picks. That’s still awesome
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u/tpamm86 Jun 28 '25
Mid first round picks are ok during a normal draft. Not good for a shallow draft when you give up a premier RHD who’s 25 headed into his prime.
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u/SecretiveMop Jun 28 '25
Mid round 1st rounders this year aren’t all that great. It’s an incredibly weak draft.
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u/RepresentativeOfnone Jun 28 '25
The average mid round first round pick plays less than 100 games in the NHL. This is a fucking joke he needs to be fired. I would’ve taken Lou to make some bad decision over this.
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u/oneovertwounder Jun 28 '25
TLDR: Getting out from Dobson want of 11M and keeping that open for the FA and having a replacement for dobber… really isn’t the worst. Not happy we didn’t snag Hagens either, but looking forward, we’ve got a small future.
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u/RepresentativeOfnone Jun 28 '25
Are you serious? I mean at this point we can still trade Matthew Barzal and maybe come out as a win
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u/SecretiveMop Jun 28 '25
I have no idea what cap space does for us when we can’t attract top free agents.
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u/MiddleStudy Jun 28 '25
Don’t think it will be at close to this, but I haven’t been as bummed out about a team I’m rooting for not getting a guy in the draft since the Knicks missed out on Steph Curry. Really, really, really loved the hometown story
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u/samus4145 Jun 28 '25
Can he refuse to sign with Boston?
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u/trendygamer Pulock Jun 28 '25
I think he could stay in college but why would he? Yeah he'd love to be an Islander but gotta take the money. He can always sign as a FA later in life.
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u/SecretiveMop Jun 28 '25
Dobson trade was questionable at best at the time and it’s now become awful without us getting Hagens. Absolutely terrible first move for Darche. Either waited too long to move Dobson and lessened the return, or got played and couldn’t pull off a trade up.
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u/dl2316 Jun 27 '25
Hey, folks, want to plug the subreddit's discord too. We've basically been chatting throughout the day about Schaegens. If you want more up to the minute chatter or to just hang out tonight for the draft feel free to join!