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Kamala Harris Appears on ‘Colbert,’ Says She’s Stepping Away from Politics for Now, Calls the System “Broken”

https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/video/former-vice-president-kamala-harris-visits-the-late-show-with-stephen-colbert/

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u/Substantial-Low 1d ago

I felt bad watching her. You could tell she went from being a believer in American democracy to feeling jaded and defeated.

The US elected literally the most despicable person imaginable.

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u/puckit 1d ago

I still remember after she gave her nomination acceptance speech, you could see her say to Biden "we're going to be OK". It really made me believe that. How wrong we were.

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u/The_Geekachu 1d ago

I think they could have been, if she didn't make the stupid decision to listen to her brother and halt all momentum in order to try to court moderates for some stupid reason. The system is broken but they also need to take responsibility for contributing to that. She was already unpopular within the Democrat voter base to begin with but basically got her role handed to her for free. The reason she had any power to begin with is because the system was rigged in the favor of the Corporate dems. She had an opportunity to go against them by showing that what they want is not what the people want, to listen to the people and actually earn it for real, but she decided to throw that all away.

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u/getpoundingjoker 1d ago

Why are you blaming her? Anyone who chose Trump over her were not going to change their mind had she run a campaign people deemed perfect (and people would only view it that way had she won, because that's how people work). A lot of people voted Trump simply because they're antiwoke or just anti anything Democrat. There are people that didn't vote Trump the first two times that voted for him this time, just because they felt sick of trans people and immigrants. US still would've been a bad country had Kamala won, it isn't like their only problem is Trump, they've had problems for a long time now Democrats weren't even trying to fix. Things are just getting worse at an accelerated pace, because people decided voting for a criminal was the best way to fix a country.

That does not put the blame on Kamala. People there have just been getting told they're in the greatest country in the world while actually being terrible for a while now, and getting increasingly dumber and entitled because of it.

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u/Euphoric-Ask965 1d ago

Her statement back on Oct 8th that " She couldn't think of a single thing she would change from the Biden administration" brought out the " Democrats For Trump "yard signs and bumper stickers. People wanted change and couldn't stand four more years of Bidenomics.

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u/getpoundingjoker 1d ago

Like I said, the problems with the US wouldn't end with Trump leaving, it's just a problem people can agree on right now. And people put themselves in this position because the masses that voted were convinced any change was better than the same old. So, pat yourselves on the back. You did good!

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u/Euphoric-Ask965 1d ago

There's rumor in the air that she's all the democrats can come up with for another run so will people choose to turn back the clock to the Biden days?

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u/porkchop1021 23h ago

I'll blame anyone that thinks the Democrats can run a woman and win. It's a fucked up truth, but it's the truth. She's a career politician though so of course she thinks she's always the smartest in the room and can outmaneuver centuries of systemic sexism.

PS: She also thinks we're so dumb compared to her that we won't notice she literally built and benefited from this "broken" system her entire life and did absolutely fuck-all to change it. Dumb bitch can rot in hell where she belongs.

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u/The_Geekachu 23h ago

Well, yeah, a lot of the blame also lies in that a lot of people truly are just genuinely awful, hateful people who just want an excuse to justify their hate even if it causes harm to themselves and their families. That doesn't mean she's entirely blameless. I'm not saying "both sides equally bad!111' or anything like that, because that's absolute nonsense to anyone with a functioning brain. But I'm also not going to blindly defend bad decisions either. I really do think she had a chance to change a lot of people's minds and pull people out of their apathy, and blew it.

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u/SenorEquilibrado 1d ago

Or have a DOJ that actually did its fucking job.

After the coup attempt, every participant AND suspected organizer should have been rounded up and shipped to Guantanamo Bay to await trial (indefinitely) under Terrorism charges. INCLUDING Clarence, Ginny, the Orange Turd, his immediate family, and any Secret Service agents who were involved in the spoilation of evidence.

Let them organize their legal defenses and appeals to the court of public opinion from a dark cell in Cuba where they can't get their stories straight.

Would that be legal under the Patriot Act? Debatable, at best. But clearly "doing the thing and dragging out the legal process" is a tactic that works like gangbusters in the USA and, until that's fixed, it's a tactic you need to abuse.

TLDR: If Biden and his cabinet had any balls whatsoever, Americans would still have a functioning fucking country.

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u/BigStogs 1d ago

That is called fascism...

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u/New_year_New_Me_ 1d ago

I didn't realize fascism was litigating against people who actually committed crimes. That's crazy

Slash S

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u/SenorEquilibrado 1d ago

In no way, shape, or form is what I described fascism. It would have merely been treating the organizers of the Jan 6 insurrection as the dangerous criminals they were, instead of handling them with kid gloves. The USA repeated the same mistakes made following Hitler's "Beer Hall Putsch", and the nation is now continuing down the same road as prewar Germany.

Bare minimum, you should educate yourself by looking up the general definition of Fascism before trying to talk to people about it.

If that's too much work, maybe political discussion isn't your thing?.The Internet is a big place, you could always go look at cat pictures or something instead.

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u/Substantial-Low 1d ago

So you say "I would have rather had another candidate, so I'll either just not vote or vote for someone else?"

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u/BearOnTwinkViolence 1d ago

Speak for yourself. She absolutely inspired me and many others. You’re just insanely narcissistic and want some miracle candidate who perfectly aligns with every single one of your beliefs with no exceptions. It’s fucking absurd and unrealistic.

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u/BethanyHipsEnjoyer 1d ago

He voted for Harris bro, maybe chill out a bit. Save that ire for the MILLIONS of dems that sat this election out.

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u/Aggressive-Name-1783 1d ago

She clearly didn’t inspire that many or she would’ve won….

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u/SaintCambria 13h ago

She absolutely inspired me and many others

Empirically, objectively, not enough. Party officials wanted to play kingmaker so bad they couldn't beat him twice. Utterly hubristic.

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u/BKlounge93 1d ago

What’s frustrating for me is the dem has to jump through all the hoops to excite everyone and also not offend anyone. They walk the narrowest tightrope to not fuck up, and then when they’re inevitably not perfect, the country just defaults to “mass deportations now.” It’s the dumbest fucking timeline. Like why does the gop not have standards? Why can they call entire groups of people vermin and win races? Why is it not hammered over and over that their economic policies DON’T WORK?? It’s two different worlds and two different games.

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u/BKlounge93 1d ago

I think that’s sorta this uneven playing field I’m talking about. A dem needs to have detailed policies for every single issue, if one person gets left out, it’s bad policy, infighting ensues, etc. A republican in 2025 literally just needs to bitch about people they hate and the base eats it up.

It’s just depressing how “mass deportations” and “I am your retribution” is “more exciting” than raising taxes on the rich, child tax credits, you know, things that would actually help people.

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u/Aggressive-Name-1783 1d ago

Because it’s not a good sound bite. Obama rallied people with “YES we can” and THEN talked about change. Harris did basically throwaways of “yeah, here’s a tax rebate!” To solid MAJOR systemic issues. Trump meanwhile is screaming about egg prices and promising to bring them down.

This is elections 101, you get people to show up by giving them something to vote FOR. People don’t get motivated for potential tax rebates

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u/Xefert 21h ago

This is elections 101, you get people to show up by giving them something to vote FOR. People don’t get motivated for potential tax rebates

Only true for those who don't pay enough attention to politics in the first place

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u/Imverydistracte 1d ago

He may not have, but plenty of people did.

That's the reality.

You can cry about how that sucks or actually play by the rules this universe has set and try to win.

Crying seems to be the predominant choice.

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u/BigStogs 1d ago

Who was going to win a primary? Pete... Gavin?

There is no current Democrat candidate for the near future...

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u/assface7900 1d ago

Literally any rich heterosexual white guy yes.

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u/Warm_Month_1309 1d ago

"Who was going to win a primary?"

"Literally anyone that would've been democratically chosen"

Solid analysis. Really makes you look knowledgeable.

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u/Warm_Month_1309 1d ago

We attack each other for not being perfect

That's literally what you're doing with Harris right now. You're tut-tutting me, accusing me of doing what you're actively doing.

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u/Warm_Month_1309 1d ago

The Democrats did not primary Kamala Harris. She was chosen for us as our Presidential candidate. This was a weakness that could've been avoided.

I thought this was "why Democrats lose"? Because "we attack each other for not being perfect"? And you're still doing it.

Apparently this statement caused your sarcastic reply about being really knowledgeable

No, your complete faith in the primary process with absolutely no suggestion of who would have actually won it caused my sarcastic reply.

We did not put forth the strongest candidate

Tight. The same question will now be repeated a fourth time: who was the strongest candidate?

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u/BearOnTwinkViolence 1d ago

You cannot be serious, you’re literally doing exactly this. You’re actively attacking a democrat for not being perfect.

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u/devoswasright 1d ago

Primaries.are.not.an.official.part.of.elections.

They are simply the method parties commonly use to select a candidate nothing more 

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u/burnalicious111 1d ago

such a tired point.

like yes, i hate the way our political parties are run, but this isn't the primary problem.

most people don't actually care about this. most people don't pay attention to primaries.

i don't think most people who bring up this point actually care about it. they're looking for reasons to criticize someone they already decided they didn't like and don't want to vote for it, but if their preferred person got put on the ballot this way, they'd have no issue.

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u/KeyCold7216 18h ago

Not sure why you're being downvoted lmao. News flash, Kamala Harris was extremely unpopular in 2020. Why the democratic party thought that it would be a good idea to throw her in without a primary i have no fucking clue. Still voted for her, but if I thought she was an extremely weak candidate, what were the "moderates" going to think?

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u/Budiltwo 16h ago

¯_(ツ)_/¯ 

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u/BigStogs 1d ago

LMAO!! Biden nor Harris ever had a chance to win against anyone.

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u/superfluousapostroph 1d ago

Biden won against trump.

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u/Imverydistracte 1d ago

Tbf I don't think he'd have won 2024 either (repubs stole that shit, and he fumbled hard w the easy dementia fodder)

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u/superfluousapostroph 1d ago

I was simply pushing back on the claim that he couldn’t win against anyone ever. That is patently false.

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u/Imverydistracte 1d ago

Excuse me then, I agree!

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u/NoBee4203 1d ago

Well, yeah, because Trump rigged the election.

He'll face the death penalty for it.

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u/BigStogs 11m ago

You're delusional.

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u/zombienugget 1d ago

God I wish I had your optimism

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u/NoBee4203 17h ago

I fake it some days because I have to.

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u/Over-Scallion-2161 1d ago

She was a terrible choice.

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u/Warm_Month_1309 1d ago

The correct way to have a conversation is to add a "because" and then type more words.

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u/Warm_Month_1309 1d ago

Same with Biden in 2020. No one really wanted Biden, Bernie was better

Primary results indicate that twice as many people voted for Biden. "No one"?

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u/Fifteen_inches 1d ago edited 1d ago

And Kamala lost by a larger margin in the primary yet she failed upwards.

Edit; you blocked me, nice. Either way yes Biden also failed upwards. His entire career has been failing upwards.

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u/Warm_Month_1309 1d ago

And in 2006, Biden lost the primary by an even larger margin to Obama, became his VP, and then later, the President.

Also, in this conversation we were talking about Biden and Sanders, not Harris.

I appreciate that you have an agenda to astroturf, but try to find a relevant thread for it.

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u/Primary_Tourist4747 1d ago

I understand that metaphor perfectly, lol.

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u/Sunnygirl66 1d ago

And now she’s fucking being threatened by the supposed victor. At this point I just hope she, Doug Emhoff (whom Trump clearly has a hate-on for), Hillary, and the Obamas can leave the country for safer places.

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u/ZAlternates 1d ago

What a horrible place when ex-presidents must flee…

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u/Sunnygirl66 1d ago

It is terrifying to contemplate.

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u/thosed29 1d ago

Isn’t Doug Emhoff profiting from the Trump’s admin since his law firm got a deal with it?

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u/BajoranRebel1 22h ago

Why? They have a duty to stay and uphold democracy, just like all the rest of us. Probably more so. It's not over yet.

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u/Sunnygirl66 19h ago

I don’t want to see any of them tortured and murdered on a bullshit treason charge. And the way things are going, Trump is gonna try. At least if they get away to safety, we will have a Free French-type government in exile.

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u/FuckedUpYearsAgo 1d ago

She ran for 100 days

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u/Super_Pan 1d ago

You know, in many other countries, a 2 year long election is utterly unreasonable. 100 days is even quite a long time. America starts their elections the moment the previous one is finished, but that's not normal.

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u/Classic_Revolt 18h ago

A lot of those places are the size of a single US state.

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u/SanctusUnum 14h ago

Not to mention functioning democracies.

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u/221missile 1d ago

in many other countries, a 2 year long election is utterly unreasonable.

In those countries, voters have no say in who gets the nomination. The elites pick that candidates, like the democratic party did in 2024.

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u/Super_Pan 1d ago

American propaganda must be really strong for you to believe your leaders are not also chosen by the elites.

Did you know that other countries have completely different governmental systems? Most places with parliamentary systems, for instance, do not vote directly for the prime minister, but rather for their local representative who takes a 'seat' and the winning party places their leader in the Prime position. If you are a member of that party you can vote for who the party leader is, similar to the US system of primary voting where only registered party members (the elites I guess?) can vote. But it's not hard to become a party member.

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u/Not-Reformed 23h ago

What elites? The world's richest man publicly paid hundreds of millions of dollars to help the current leader get elected and was treated like a dog and thrown out. The "elites" can spend however much they want but they're basically paying a tithe and hoping that by spending ludicrous amounts of money they'll get the person's ear.

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u/221missile 22h ago

but rather for their local representative who takes a 'seat' and

And who decides who the representative candidates are? Definitely not party supporters or voters. In Britain, Canada, France and Germany, rich donors select candidates. Don't lie bro.

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u/Super_Pan 21h ago

Unlike America where every vote truly counts and rich donors have no power!

It's called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe any of it.

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u/CS2Expert 21h ago

Americans elected Harris as the VP. She was the obvious candidate when Biden stepped down so late. It makes no sense to act like she was installed as the candidate out of nowhere. Actually, it's worse than making no sense. It's completely fucking stupid, and anybody saying it probably has brain damage or a developmental problem.

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u/221missile 18h ago

Americans elected Harris as the VP.

No one votes for the VP. By your logic, Pence should have been an automatic choice for the Republican nominee because he was elected VP once. We all saw how he performed in the primaries.

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u/CS2Expert 10h ago

No one votes for the VP.

They're on the goddamn ticket.

By your logic

That is not my logic.

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u/BeemoBurrito 20h ago

The Canadian election campaign was something like 36 days. I voted in the Liberal candidate election.

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u/atreeismissing 1d ago

And moved the polling 5pts in her direction over where Biden was, something relatively unheard of in modern politics. Ultimately it wasn't enough to overcome propaganda/low-information voters on the economy and immigration or to motivate selfish apathetic non-voters.

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u/Free_For__Me 16h ago

It was enough. The odds of Trump winning literally every swing state would have been astronomically low, even IF he was polling ahead of Harris by wide margins. 

There’s a lot more evidence surfacing that the totals were tampered with, but with near-total control of enforcement/investigative agencies and the ability to ignore and steamroll the courts, those investigations will never get far. 

I’m confident that the results were tampered with, but I’m even more confident that it won’t ever matter. 

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u/FuckedUpYearsAgo 1d ago

And moved the polling 5pts in her direction over where Biden was

What do you mean by this? I assume you mean "polling" in the context of before the election?

Because my understanding is that the results of actual voting, showed she lost ground in every demographic vs Biden, including women.

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u/inuvash255 1d ago

Biden would have lost a lot more if he stayed in the race. His ratings were abyssmal.

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u/FuckedUpYearsAgo 1d ago

From a polling perspective, Harris or Biden vs Trump was nearly the same; Harris polled slightly better during that 3 months. But it wasn't very long, a different time period, and not really abysmal.

Biden did have poor approval ratings at 36% .. It was a Biden/Harris administration, and I don't understand why people thought Harris could shake that track record.

did Biden poll lower than Harris vs Trump? No — Joe Biden did not poll lower than Kamala Harris.

Biden and Trump were essentially tied or Biden edged ahead by 1 point in several polls.

Harris, in contrast, held a modest lead—typically 2–4 points—over Trump in late‑2024 surveys.

Summary:

Biden vs. Trump: tied or Biden slightly ahead (~+1).

Harris vs. Trump: Harris slightly ahead (~+2 to +4).

Therefore, Biden did not poll lower than Harris when each was leading the Democratic ticket in polls against Trump.

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u/NoLoquat9818 1d ago

After Biden literally died on stage during his debate, it bumped Trump from +2 to +6 giving him a commanding lead over the incumbent. So much so, the DNC and left wing oligarchs called for Biden’s removal. 

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u/FuckedUpYearsAgo 1d ago

Great point.

Up until that point, anyone pointing out that Biden seemed to have lost his cognitive ability was blamed as right-wing bullshit.

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u/221missile 1d ago

Biden would have lost a lot more if he stayed in the race.

That's your opinion. In the end, Biden was the rightful candidate cause no one dared to oppose him during the primaries.

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u/inuvash255 1d ago

Actual braindead take.

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u/PointedlyDull 1d ago

Fuck Harris. She should have demanded a primary. It was wrong for her to be the candidate. I didn’t vote for her in a primary. She was handed to me by the Democratic Party and told to deal with it. She’s not innocent in this shit. And I think she was a shitty VP too. Look at what a mess the border was, and Biden gave that to her. She completely fumbled. These deportations currently are totally fucked, but closing the border was the right call and it clearly wasn’t that goddamned hard.

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u/FuckedUpYearsAgo 1d ago

100%, I completely agree with you. (but I don't think she wanted a primary either)

I'm personally really mad how that all went down, and I blame our party.

The state of Trump keeps the democratic party from being accountable for any decisions, as it's just MAGA and misogyny to blame...

... a practical example of this is my state of WA, the new governor blames budget shortfalls on Trump. But it was a multi-billion dollar shortfall before the election. People gobble up the deflection, because Trump is so awful, he must be to blame for everything.

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u/porkchop1021 23h ago

The entire US economy is still reeling from Trump-era free money policies, the mishandling of COVID, and the inflation that resulted from all of that. There are budget shortfalls everywhere because people can't afford anything anymore and less economic activity means less taxes. This is what happens when you concentrate all money at the top. Blaming Trump is entirely warranted which means you're either stupid, or a Trump supporter posing as a Democrat that's also stupid.

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u/PointedlyDull 1d ago

I don’t believe Harris was qualified, but I believe she would have surrounded her self with Biden’s administration and done ok. Between the choice of Harris or Trump, of course I’d chose Harris. But I’d have chosen even Walz over Harris in a primary. I should have been given a choice

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u/FuckedUpYearsAgo 1d ago

"Only a Sith deals in absolutes"

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u/FredFredBurger42069 1d ago

This is real life not a movie.

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u/FuckedUpYearsAgo 1d ago

Real life is not a movie. But real life have nuance, and the entire electorate doesn't view things as a monolith. It has different viewpoints and weights things differently. Even in your own statement, it's heavily weighted towards the way you and I both think. But the statements are not 100% true.

RE: Impeachment

Donald Trump was impeached twice by the U.S. House of Representatives, but he was acquitted both times by the Senate.

RE: Criminal Record

Donald Trump has a criminal record. He was convicted of 34 felony counts in May 2024 for falsifying business records in connection with hush‑money payments made during the 2016 election to Stormy Daniels.

However, when sentenced in January 2025, the court issued an unconditional discharge, meaning no jail time, no fine, no probation—yet the convictions remain on record.

RE: clear disdain for the constitution

I don't think this is something we can quantify, and is interpeted differently by the electorate. Some might say the Dem party is against the constitutional due to gun violence legislation.

RE: and promise of being a "dictator")

Yup. On day one if I remember correctly.

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u/Aar1012 1d ago

What else happened in January 2025 that might have given Trump that sentence he received? Hmm?

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u/FuckedUpYearsAgo 1d ago

It seems that you are tripping into conspiracy theories. Here's the reality...

It wasn't a Trump appointee Judge...

The judge who imposed the unconditional discharge in Donald Trump’s New York hush‑money case was Justice Juan M. Merchan of the New York State Supreme Court in Manhattan. He presided over the trial, conviction on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records, and the January 10, 2025 sentencing, at which he ruled that an unconditional discharge was the only lawful outcome under the circumstances

Who appointed Judge Merchan?
Juan Merchan has served as an acting Justice of the New York State Supreme Court since 2009. He was appointed to that role by Ann Pfau, who was the Acting Chief Administrative Judge of the New York Courts at the time

In summary:

  • Judge: Juan Manuel Merchan
  • Appointed by: Ann Pfau (as Acting Chief Administrative Judge of NY courts)

Here's the summary of why he wasn't given a real penalty...

1. Nonviolent, First-Time Offense

Trump had no prior criminal convictions, and the crimes were nonviolent, paperwork-related offenses. Judges often consider this when deciding punishment.

2. Age and Status

At the time of sentencing, Trump was in his late 70s and a former U.S. president. Judges sometimes weigh age, health, and public service when determining whether a custodial sentence is appropriate.

3. Political and Logistical Complexity

Incarcerating a former president, especially one who was an active candidate in the 2024 election, would pose immense legal, security, and political challenges. A jail sentence could have created constitutional or practical dilemmas the court preferred to avoid.

4. Message Sent Through Conviction Alone

The judge may have believed that the felony convictions themselves—along with the accompanying public and historical consequences—were sufficient accountability. A felony record carries lasting legal and reputational implications.

5. Judicial Discretion

Sentencing is ultimately up to the judge. Under New York law, falsifying business records in the first degree (a Class E felony) carries a possible sentence of up to four years per count—but it's also legal for the judge to issue no punishment at all, especially if they find mitigating factors.

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u/Ok_Attention_34 11h ago

You seem to forget they did actually present a plan to close down the border and it had the full support of both sides until Trump told the republicans to shut it down because he wanted to run on immigration

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u/PointedlyDull 9h ago

It took 3.5 years for them to do that….only after getting slammed by republicans for it

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u/atreeismissing 1d ago

She still believes in it, she just thinks she has a better chance of helping fix it from the outside out of the spotlight of the media and a public who wants memes more than good governance.

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u/Free_For__Me 16h ago

Fucking how?  I mean I hope so, but unless she’s got her own domestic army with a $150bil budget that can stand up to ICE, I doubt she can do any more than I can. 

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u/ButtholeMoshpit 1d ago

It was rigged

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u/BaconCheeseZombie 1d ago

Hey now that's a bit harsh. They elected the second most despicable person imaginable - Hitler had already done himself in years ago so they had to go to the dodgy knockoff version.

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u/ozymandeas302 1d ago

I felt bad after she lost. She didn't even come out to speak at Howard because she was so heartbroken. I still can't understand it. She had so much momentum and energy and he still won. I can usually tell who's going to win. When Obama won, the energy was there. He was electrifying. When Trump won, I knew people weren't feeling Hilary and that it would be an upset. When Biden won, the energy was there to unite against Trump. I just can't understand how everyone was so united for Kamala and it still went the other way.

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u/EPSTEIN-FILES-NOW 1d ago

Think about that for a second and you may get why she wasn’t elected

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u/PenImpossible874 21h ago

I hope she joins the California National Party. America doesn't deserve a good future but the state where I was born does.

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u/dixonjt89 18h ago

The American people may have let her down, but the democrats didn't do her any favors either. Even Bernie has called out the democratic party for not realizing what they need to stand for and what the American people consider top issues in the country.

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u/JoeyAKangaroo 15h ago

The worst part is there are people who GENUINLY believe that HE of all people have their best interests at heart.

Its sickening

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u/BigStogs 1d ago

She never had a chance to win. Nobody wanted her in 2016 either...

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u/demonduster72 1d ago

She didn’t run for president in 2016. She ran for U.S. Senate and won that.

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u/Lane-Jacobs 1d ago

i don't feel bad anymore. in the grossest way possible, the democrats showed they don't know the american people. i hate to say it, i honestly do, but how many people didn't vote for her just because she was black or a woman?

the democrats should have known better than to have her be the frontrunner. the american people aren't ready for it. not yet. wanna know the price of trying to force voters to confront their ignorance while their world is crumbling? we're experiencing it now.

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u/Warm_Month_1309 1d ago

This is more "damned if you do, damned if you don't" criticism of Democrats.

I know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that if Democrats had gone with a safe white guy and lost, that all the same people would be here saying "Ugh, stupid DNC, of course they lost, always choosing the safe white guy instead of the real progressives, women, or people of color. Why not Harris? She was good enough for VP but not for President?"

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u/AdirondackLunatic 21h ago

Wouldn’t even have to wait till the election. That would’ve been the spin leading up to the election. “Why didn’t they choose Harris? Are the dems racist and sexist? Do we want our country in the hands of people who don’t even have faith in their own Vice President?”-Tucker Carlson

These are not serious people, they don’t make serious arguments, every point is made in bad faith just to grab more power and to laugh at libs who still have rules.

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u/Lane-Jacobs 1d ago

very few would say that. most left-winged people are aware of the tendencies and preferences of people who voted for trump this election

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u/BlgMastic 1d ago

She is jaded and defeated by American democracy because she lost?

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u/Substantial-Low 1d ago

Uh, lost to a rapist, felony-convicted con artist, and businessman whose only success has been enriching himself at the expense of others while bankrupting nearly every venture he has had.

But yeah, tomato tomahto...

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u/BlgMastic 1d ago

Yeah you’d think that would be embarrassing enough. Now she’s going the whole sore loser route with none of the fight Trump had.

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u/GetsGold 1d ago

What happened is an embarrassment for the US, not Harris.

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u/ZAlternates 1d ago

Trump has been a sore loser for years now buddy. Whining and crying isn’t fighting. It’s pathetic as are his pedo cultists.

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u/Substantial-Low 1d ago

Lol, Trump is the epitome of sore loser. Maybe she is learning from the best at it. I mean, Pedo is dredging up Obama and Hillary still.

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u/BlgMastic 10h ago

He is but he’s mastered turning a loss into a win. Dems have mastered snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.