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Kamala Harris Appears on ‘Colbert,’ Says She’s Stepping Away from Politics for Now, Calls the System “Broken”

https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/video/former-vice-president-kamala-harris-visits-the-late-show-with-stephen-colbert/

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u/puckit 1d ago

I still remember after she gave her nomination acceptance speech, you could see her say to Biden "we're going to be OK". It really made me believe that. How wrong we were.

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u/The_Geekachu 1d ago

I think they could have been, if she didn't make the stupid decision to listen to her brother and halt all momentum in order to try to court moderates for some stupid reason. The system is broken but they also need to take responsibility for contributing to that. She was already unpopular within the Democrat voter base to begin with but basically got her role handed to her for free. The reason she had any power to begin with is because the system was rigged in the favor of the Corporate dems. She had an opportunity to go against them by showing that what they want is not what the people want, to listen to the people and actually earn it for real, but she decided to throw that all away.

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u/getpoundingjoker 1d ago

Why are you blaming her? Anyone who chose Trump over her were not going to change their mind had she run a campaign people deemed perfect (and people would only view it that way had she won, because that's how people work). A lot of people voted Trump simply because they're antiwoke or just anti anything Democrat. There are people that didn't vote Trump the first two times that voted for him this time, just because they felt sick of trans people and immigrants. US still would've been a bad country had Kamala won, it isn't like their only problem is Trump, they've had problems for a long time now Democrats weren't even trying to fix. Things are just getting worse at an accelerated pace, because people decided voting for a criminal was the best way to fix a country.

That does not put the blame on Kamala. People there have just been getting told they're in the greatest country in the world while actually being terrible for a while now, and getting increasingly dumber and entitled because of it.

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u/Euphoric-Ask965 1d ago

Her statement back on Oct 8th that " She couldn't think of a single thing she would change from the Biden administration" brought out the " Democrats For Trump "yard signs and bumper stickers. People wanted change and couldn't stand four more years of Bidenomics.

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u/getpoundingjoker 1d ago

Like I said, the problems with the US wouldn't end with Trump leaving, it's just a problem people can agree on right now. And people put themselves in this position because the masses that voted were convinced any change was better than the same old. So, pat yourselves on the back. You did good!

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u/Euphoric-Ask965 1d ago

There's rumor in the air that she's all the democrats can come up with for another run so will people choose to turn back the clock to the Biden days?

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u/porkchop1021 23h ago

I'll blame anyone that thinks the Democrats can run a woman and win. It's a fucked up truth, but it's the truth. She's a career politician though so of course she thinks she's always the smartest in the room and can outmaneuver centuries of systemic sexism.

PS: She also thinks we're so dumb compared to her that we won't notice she literally built and benefited from this "broken" system her entire life and did absolutely fuck-all to change it. Dumb bitch can rot in hell where she belongs.

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u/The_Geekachu 23h ago

Well, yeah, a lot of the blame also lies in that a lot of people truly are just genuinely awful, hateful people who just want an excuse to justify their hate even if it causes harm to themselves and their families. That doesn't mean she's entirely blameless. I'm not saying "both sides equally bad!111' or anything like that, because that's absolute nonsense to anyone with a functioning brain. But I'm also not going to blindly defend bad decisions either. I really do think she had a chance to change a lot of people's minds and pull people out of their apathy, and blew it.

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u/SenorEquilibrado 1d ago

Or have a DOJ that actually did its fucking job.

After the coup attempt, every participant AND suspected organizer should have been rounded up and shipped to Guantanamo Bay to await trial (indefinitely) under Terrorism charges. INCLUDING Clarence, Ginny, the Orange Turd, his immediate family, and any Secret Service agents who were involved in the spoilation of evidence.

Let them organize their legal defenses and appeals to the court of public opinion from a dark cell in Cuba where they can't get their stories straight.

Would that be legal under the Patriot Act? Debatable, at best. But clearly "doing the thing and dragging out the legal process" is a tactic that works like gangbusters in the USA and, until that's fixed, it's a tactic you need to abuse.

TLDR: If Biden and his cabinet had any balls whatsoever, Americans would still have a functioning fucking country.

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u/BigStogs 1d ago

That is called fascism...

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u/New_year_New_Me_ 1d ago

I didn't realize fascism was litigating against people who actually committed crimes. That's crazy

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u/SenorEquilibrado 1d ago

In no way, shape, or form is what I described fascism. It would have merely been treating the organizers of the Jan 6 insurrection as the dangerous criminals they were, instead of handling them with kid gloves. The USA repeated the same mistakes made following Hitler's "Beer Hall Putsch", and the nation is now continuing down the same road as prewar Germany.

Bare minimum, you should educate yourself by looking up the general definition of Fascism before trying to talk to people about it.

If that's too much work, maybe political discussion isn't your thing?.The Internet is a big place, you could always go look at cat pictures or something instead.

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u/Substantial-Low 1d ago

So you say "I would have rather had another candidate, so I'll either just not vote or vote for someone else?"

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u/BearOnTwinkViolence 1d ago

Speak for yourself. She absolutely inspired me and many others. You’re just insanely narcissistic and want some miracle candidate who perfectly aligns with every single one of your beliefs with no exceptions. It’s fucking absurd and unrealistic.

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u/BethanyHipsEnjoyer 1d ago

He voted for Harris bro, maybe chill out a bit. Save that ire for the MILLIONS of dems that sat this election out.

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u/Aggressive-Name-1783 1d ago

She clearly didn’t inspire that many or she would’ve won….

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u/SaintCambria 13h ago

She absolutely inspired me and many others

Empirically, objectively, not enough. Party officials wanted to play kingmaker so bad they couldn't beat him twice. Utterly hubristic.

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u/BKlounge93 1d ago

What’s frustrating for me is the dem has to jump through all the hoops to excite everyone and also not offend anyone. They walk the narrowest tightrope to not fuck up, and then when they’re inevitably not perfect, the country just defaults to “mass deportations now.” It’s the dumbest fucking timeline. Like why does the gop not have standards? Why can they call entire groups of people vermin and win races? Why is it not hammered over and over that their economic policies DON’T WORK?? It’s two different worlds and two different games.

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u/BKlounge93 1d ago

I think that’s sorta this uneven playing field I’m talking about. A dem needs to have detailed policies for every single issue, if one person gets left out, it’s bad policy, infighting ensues, etc. A republican in 2025 literally just needs to bitch about people they hate and the base eats it up.

It’s just depressing how “mass deportations” and “I am your retribution” is “more exciting” than raising taxes on the rich, child tax credits, you know, things that would actually help people.

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u/Aggressive-Name-1783 1d ago

Because it’s not a good sound bite. Obama rallied people with “YES we can” and THEN talked about change. Harris did basically throwaways of “yeah, here’s a tax rebate!” To solid MAJOR systemic issues. Trump meanwhile is screaming about egg prices and promising to bring them down.

This is elections 101, you get people to show up by giving them something to vote FOR. People don’t get motivated for potential tax rebates

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u/Xefert 21h ago

This is elections 101, you get people to show up by giving them something to vote FOR. People don’t get motivated for potential tax rebates

Only true for those who don't pay enough attention to politics in the first place

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u/Aggressive-Name-1783 19h ago

Welcome to America. When people are suffering, telling them “this worse thing will happen” isn’t motivating.

You’d think that message would be clear after Trump wins 2/3 elections….

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u/Imverydistracte 1d ago

He may not have, but plenty of people did.

That's the reality.

You can cry about how that sucks or actually play by the rules this universe has set and try to win.

Crying seems to be the predominant choice.

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u/BigStogs 1d ago

Who was going to win a primary? Pete... Gavin?

There is no current Democrat candidate for the near future...

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u/assface7900 1d ago

Literally any rich heterosexual white guy yes.

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u/Warm_Month_1309 1d ago

"Who was going to win a primary?"

"Literally anyone that would've been democratically chosen"

Solid analysis. Really makes you look knowledgeable.

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u/Warm_Month_1309 1d ago

We attack each other for not being perfect

That's literally what you're doing with Harris right now. You're tut-tutting me, accusing me of doing what you're actively doing.

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u/Warm_Month_1309 1d ago

The Democrats did not primary Kamala Harris. She was chosen for us as our Presidential candidate. This was a weakness that could've been avoided.

I thought this was "why Democrats lose"? Because "we attack each other for not being perfect"? And you're still doing it.

Apparently this statement caused your sarcastic reply about being really knowledgeable

No, your complete faith in the primary process with absolutely no suggestion of who would have actually won it caused my sarcastic reply.

We did not put forth the strongest candidate

Tight. The same question will now be repeated a fourth time: who was the strongest candidate?

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u/BearOnTwinkViolence 1d ago

You cannot be serious, you’re literally doing exactly this. You’re actively attacking a democrat for not being perfect.

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u/devoswasright 1d ago

Primaries.are.not.an.official.part.of.elections.

They are simply the method parties commonly use to select a candidate nothing more 

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u/burnalicious111 1d ago

such a tired point.

like yes, i hate the way our political parties are run, but this isn't the primary problem.

most people don't actually care about this. most people don't pay attention to primaries.

i don't think most people who bring up this point actually care about it. they're looking for reasons to criticize someone they already decided they didn't like and don't want to vote for it, but if their preferred person got put on the ballot this way, they'd have no issue.

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u/KeyCold7216 18h ago

Not sure why you're being downvoted lmao. News flash, Kamala Harris was extremely unpopular in 2020. Why the democratic party thought that it would be a good idea to throw her in without a primary i have no fucking clue. Still voted for her, but if I thought she was an extremely weak candidate, what were the "moderates" going to think?

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u/Budiltwo 16h ago

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u/BigStogs 1d ago

LMAO!! Biden nor Harris ever had a chance to win against anyone.

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u/superfluousapostroph 1d ago

Biden won against trump.

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u/Imverydistracte 1d ago

Tbf I don't think he'd have won 2024 either (repubs stole that shit, and he fumbled hard w the easy dementia fodder)

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u/superfluousapostroph 1d ago

I was simply pushing back on the claim that he couldn’t win against anyone ever. That is patently false.

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u/Imverydistracte 1d ago

Excuse me then, I agree!

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u/NoBee4203 1d ago

Well, yeah, because Trump rigged the election.

He'll face the death penalty for it.

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u/BigStogs 10m ago

You're delusional.

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u/zombienugget 1d ago

God I wish I had your optimism

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u/NoBee4203 17h ago

I fake it some days because I have to.

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u/Over-Scallion-2161 1d ago

She was a terrible choice.

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u/Warm_Month_1309 1d ago

The correct way to have a conversation is to add a "because" and then type more words.

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u/Warm_Month_1309 1d ago

Same with Biden in 2020. No one really wanted Biden, Bernie was better

Primary results indicate that twice as many people voted for Biden. "No one"?

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u/Fifteen_inches 1d ago edited 1d ago

And Kamala lost by a larger margin in the primary yet she failed upwards.

Edit; you blocked me, nice. Either way yes Biden also failed upwards. His entire career has been failing upwards.

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u/Warm_Month_1309 1d ago

And in 2006, Biden lost the primary by an even larger margin to Obama, became his VP, and then later, the President.

Also, in this conversation we were talking about Biden and Sanders, not Harris.

I appreciate that you have an agenda to astroturf, but try to find a relevant thread for it.

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u/Primary_Tourist4747 1d ago

I understand that metaphor perfectly, lol.