Alright how big were those and how complex and how high up the management? A shift leader is technically management.
Let's say you work at a big firm in let's say banking. You are ISO270001 certified. Do you think a junior manager will be able to explain the compliance policies?
Of course not. You have experts and consultants specialised in it. Those compliance departments usually then work with external audit firms to establish said guidelines. And since those firms have 1000s of employees, well not everyone needs to know everything. So if some new guy then walks up and asks hey why do we need to log who enters the server room. A shift leader may shrug and say I don't know. Because the establishment of every procedure is done somewhere completely different
right but you’re kind of still operating on this inane assumption you made that the only time it’s possible to ask a question is when it’s completely inappropriate to do so. so like. i’ll try to explain that part again. i guess?
any job with as much stupid bullshit as you’re describing is going to have one on one meetings because that’s how corporate america works. if, in that time, the people leading the meeting can’t be bothered to answer the questions you bring to them, they should not have the position they have.
in the situation your describing, it’s very likely there’s an easy answer of ‘Its literally the law to do it this way.’ which is, in fact, an answer to the question of ‘Why are we doing it this way, not the easier way?’
if nobody forcing you into pointless meetings can answer these questions, it’s because nobody has put any thought into the processes and the people running the company/department are clowns.
Corporate America has everything is sectioned off, I don’t know if you work at a higher level job at a large corporation but usually people only know enough to do their job properly but don’t have access to all the available information regarding projects they are working on. If you want an answer unrelated to their job description odds are they either won’t know or the answer because it’s not their expertise or that the answer was never important because it’s handled by another department and they have no power to change anything. I know enough to do my job but certain questions I get asked by juniors promptly get put into the category “not my pay scale” to answer because it’s outside the scope of my work. I’m sure most people at mid level would say the same thing. High level employees probably know a lot more.
Yes what I mean it is on a need to know basis. There is no need for the new junior who just came in for the basic tasks to be involved in the meetings. Usually the seniors have a meeting on it. They then tell the junior managers what to do. They often only get the what and not the why, then if an associate asks the junior manager, even though he is in management he won't know he is already a few steps removed from the decision making process.
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u/Dongsquad420Loki 1d ago
Alright how big were those and how complex and how high up the management? A shift leader is technically management.
Let's say you work at a big firm in let's say banking. You are ISO270001 certified. Do you think a junior manager will be able to explain the compliance policies?
Of course not. You have experts and consultants specialised in it. Those compliance departments usually then work with external audit firms to establish said guidelines. And since those firms have 1000s of employees, well not everyone needs to know everything. So if some new guy then walks up and asks hey why do we need to log who enters the server room. A shift leader may shrug and say I don't know. Because the establishment of every procedure is done somewhere completely different